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| :Because he isn't. That may sound harsh, but I'm certain that answered all of your questions. Its the same reason why [[Isaac]], [[Krystal]], Geno, K. Rool, and so many others weren't playable. At least Ridley's a boss. Isaac is an assist trophy, Krystal makes some random cameo in SSE, K. Rool is only a trophy, and Geno isn't there at all. --[[User:Misken67|Misken67]] 22:02, 5 March 2008 (UTC) | | :Because he isn't. That may sound harsh, but I'm certain that answered all of your questions. Its the same reason why [[Isaac]], [[Krystal]], Geno, K. Rool, and so many others weren't playable. At least Ridley's a boss. Isaac is an assist trophy, Krystal makes some random cameo in SSE, K. Rool is only a trophy, and Geno isn't there at all. --[[User:Misken67|Misken67]] 22:02, 5 March 2008 (UTC) |
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| ok... he isnt playable because he is too big. your point about giga bowser barely makes sense because giga bowser is a final smash not an actual playable character, so you can only be him for a limited amount of time. to make ridley a normal playable character they would have to shrink him down to normal size and then maybe his final smash would make him big... and maybe even turn him into meta ridley. <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:Ssnake ssamus|Ssnake ssamus]] ([[User talk:Ssnake ssamus|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Ssnake ssamus|contribs]]) 21:55, 4 April 2008 (UTC)</small> | | ok... he isnt playable because he is too big. your point about giga bowser barely makes sense because giga bowser is a final smash not an actual playable character, so you can only be him for a limited amount of time. to make ridley a normal playable character they would have to shrink him down to normal size and then maybe his final smash would make him big... and maybe even turn him into meta ridley. <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:Ssnake ssamus|Ssnake ssamus]] ([[User talk:Ssnake ssamus|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Ssnake ssamus|contribs]]) 21:55, 4 April 2008 (UTC)</small> |
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| Hey, Jigglypuff's final smash pushes everyone, even teammates, away. And Olimar is suppose to be an inch tall. I mean, everyone can be sized down or up. But Ridley is highly unlikely, because he is in no potition to have Special moves, he really doesn't have a move set, no final smash even if it were metal Ridley, he would be Super-Wario again, all powered up, he never touches the ground, he weighs too much, there are just too many problems in having him. Besides, the details are going to be hard with 4 Ridleys. Now, imagine 4 Ridleys in a Match, on Wi-Fi. Nothing could happen. Everything would be slow. [[User:Learner3|Learner3]] 17:59, 10 April 2008 (UTC) | | Hey, Jigglypuff's final smash pushes everyone, even teammates, away. And Olimar is suppose to be an inch tall. I mean, everyone can be sized down or up. But Ridley is highly unlikely, because he is in no potition to have Special moves, he really doesn't have a move set, no final smash even if it were metal Ridley, he would be Super-Wario again, all powered up, he never touches the ground, he weighs too much, there are just too many problems in having him. Besides, the details are going to be hard with 4 Ridleys. Now, imagine 4 Ridleys in a Match, on Wi-Fi. Nothing could happen. Everything would be slow. [[User:Learner3|Learner3]] 17:59, 10 April 2008 (UTC) |
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| I'm going to copy exactly what I said on the shoud box "charizard is quite downsized compared to his other apperances as is bowser in his most recent apperances. Ridly was also about the same size in the first metroid game and he appears to be only slightly taller than Samus in the Melee opening which would be the perfect size for him in game". Also Zelda was playable long before melee. It's Ganondorf and Sheik who are playable only in the smash bro. series (although since Zelda is Sheik that makes Ganondorf the only character playable only in Smash Bros.) [[User:Oni Dark Link|<font color="#66FFFF">Oni]]</font> [[Special:Editcount/Oni Dark Link|<font color="#7F007F">Dark ]]</font> [[User:Oni Dark Link/TOURNAMENT OF MINOR CHARACTERS!!!|<font color="#007A00">Link]]</font> 09:22, June 5, 2010 (UTC)
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| Balloon Fighter walks Miles. Anyway, it's an aesthetics choice. Same reason Rayquaza or Spider Mech Porky were'nt playable. They are designed to be bosses and only bosses. I don't want to fight as a chibi Ridley. Plus, even with folded wings, the tail would make for a horribly disconfigured hitbox. Sakurai could make it work, but it wouldn't turn out the way one would hope. Would you want a tiny Ridley who's head can't even see over the bottom platform of Battlefield? It would be terribly embarrassing. I know that he wouldn't look too bad compared to, say, Samus or Bowser, but he'd only be like twice as tall as Pikachu, where normally he could swallow the rodent in one bite.[[User:SonicROBTrainer|SonicROBTrainer]] ([[User talk:SonicROBTrainer|talk]]) 00:10, 19 June 2008 (UTC) | | Balloon Fighter walks Miles. Anyway, it's an aesthetics choice. Same reason Rayquaza or Spider Mech Porky were'nt playable. They are designed to be bosses and only bosses. I don't want to fight as a chibi Ridley. Plus, even with folded wings, the tail would make for a horribly disconfigured hitbox. Sakurai could make it work, but it wouldn't turn out the way one would hope. Would you want a tiny Ridley who's head can't even see over the bottom platform of Battlefield? It would be terribly embarrassing. I know that he wouldn't look too bad compared to, say, Samus or Bowser, but he'd only be like twice as tall as Pikachu, where normally he could swallow the rodent in one bite.[[User:SonicROBTrainer|SonicROBTrainer]] ([[User talk:SonicROBTrainer|talk]]) 00:10, 19 June 2008 (UTC) |
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| Hey, why not have his final smash be somewhat similar to Captain Falcon's, with a combination of Ike's Great Aether move. The intro could be like Gannondorf's, the middle could be like Ike's, & the end could be like Captain Falcon's. Down Special could be his Tail Hop Move from Super Metriod, he could have his side special be an uppercut with his claw, and his neutral special would be fire barrage (take time to charge, of course). His upward special would be similar to Pit's, only it doesn't last as long. He is NOT too big, as his Meta Ridley form is the same size as his normal form, & if you played Metroid Fusion, you would have seen he is an equivalent to Bowser. His smashes could make use of his teeth, claws, & tail (ex: Up Smash: Wing Slam. Side Smash: Bite. Down Smash: Tail Spin). In my opinion, Ridley would be a great character. His attack combo: swipe, backhand, headbutt. His airel could be a flip, while his meteor strike could be a strong bite. His back airel could be a tail swing. His upward airel could be an upward lunge with his snout. His speed would be slow, with high traction, heavyweight, power, with small jumps. His jump amount would be that of Meta Knight's, and he would have slow attacks. To note: Ridley does touch the ground, as seen in Metroid Prime & Super Metroid, in the first and second battles he fades in standing on the ground. Other possible Final Smashes: Space Pirate Fleet, Meta Ridley (form), Omega Ridley (form), Metroid Swarm (attack) Mother Brain (attack) Kraid (attack) Meta Kraid (attack(He was going to be a boss in Metroid Prime)) Stage Crush (attack). Meta Ridley might even be a separate palette, just as Omega Ridley might. Instead of Fireballs, the Meta Ridley palette might spit rockets, while the Omega Ridley one might spit clumps of Phazon. BTW, you can call me ShamanMan64. Reply to this by editing this, then put a comment. Peace out, man.
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| In the original Metroid game, Ridley was not much larger than Samus (although this was due to technical limitations). He would have made a plausible playable character in that form, but considering that ''Smash Bros.'' already portrays him as huge, I highly doubt that he will become a playable character without a significant change to the game itself. --[[User:UberScienceNerd|UberScienceNerd]] ([[User talk:UberScienceNerd|talk]]) 00:53, 2 January 2009 (UTC) | | In the original Metroid game, Ridley was not much larger than Samus (although this was due to technical limitations). He would have made a plausible playable character in that form, but considering that ''Smash Bros.'' already portrays him as huge, I highly doubt that he will become a playable character without a significant change to the game itself. --[[User:UberScienceNerd|UberScienceNerd]] ([[User talk:UberScienceNerd|talk]]) 00:53, 2 January 2009 (UTC) |
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| Actually, it would all probably depend on his size in the last Metroid game before the next Smash Bros. game, or his size in the next one after, as he could always be added as an advertising character. Anyways, he really wasn't much bigger than Samus in the original Metroid, and in the melee opening he is maybe a head taller. Make him about the same size as Charizard, and you shouldn't really have a problem. As for moveset, up+B: he could do that fly up, then land thing he did in SSE. Over+B: Fly across the screen like he does in SSE. B: Fire breath or plasma or whatever. Down+B: Tail swipe like in the Metroid games and SSE. Final Smash: Omega Ridley OR he calls in a Space Pirate platoon to wipe out everybody. <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:98.92.63.146|98.92.63.146]] ([[User talk:98.92.63.146|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/98.92.63.146|contribs]]) </small>
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| Size doesn't matter much he could be '''VERY''' slow on ground but be faster in the air, like Jiggly. He doesn't have to be a heavy guy, just takes up some space. [[Special:Contributions/98.117.158.220|98.117.158.220]] 01:21, January 26, 2010 (UTC)
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| GUYS! Ridley has a chance for super smash bros (insert possible brawl word here)!i beleive ridley will apear about as big as bowser and rob stacked up.besides, Olimar got in(somehow),and hes only the size of a quater in his games,and ridley wasnt too big in the opening in melee, so sakurai has no reason to exclud ridey!
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| Size does matter a lot. Does anyone notice the size range of all of ''Brawl''<nowiki>'</nowiki>s characters? They aren't too large, as compared to how enormous Ridley was meant to be. If you wanted Ridley to be regular-sized like the rest of ''Brawl''<nowiki>'</nowiki>s roster, you'd have him look very weird. He's not meant to look mini-sized. It's almost as ridiculous as saying that Mini-Kraid should be a boss, which doesn't work. And given that Ridley is portrayed as a boss is in the SSE, the chance that he'll ever be a character is close to none: people like Sakurai don't just suddenly change their minds and think that Porky should be a playable character, for the exact same reason. And anyways, scaling Ridley's powers would make him ridiculous; mini-fireballs from a boss figure doesn't work. '''[[User:RAN1|<font color="darkred">R</font>]][[User talk:RAN1|<font color="navy">A</font>]][[Special:Contributions/RAN1|<font color="darkgreen">N</font>]]1''' 01:44, January 26, 2010 (UTC)
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| :I'm not saying he should have been in brawl, just in the next SSB. So should porkey. And BtW, have you played Luigi's Mansion? Look how big Bowser is in that game. I have't battled him in any Metroid games, but based on the kind of attacks he does in brawl, here's my moveset of him: B neutral: fireball, similar to wolf's blaster in knockback and damage, but slightly rounder. B side:rush, ridly charges, kinda like fox's B side. B up: obviously a move that has to do with flying. B down: I'll have to play more metroid games to decide this. The only reason why ridly seems big is that he's usualy seen floating, tail touching the ground, with wings spread. And just because a character is a boss doesn't mean [[Master Hand glitch|they can't be playable.]][[Special:Contributions/98.117.158.220|98.117.158.220]] 02:06, January 26, 2010 (UTC)
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| :As a note, Ridly could be about 1.5 times as tall as Bowser, the same height as in Metroid for the NES. His normal walk, of course, would be '''very''' slow. <choose><option><span style="color:red;">[[User:Mr. Anon|Mr.]]</span> <span style="color:green;">[[User talk:Mr. Anon|Anon]]</span> <span style="color:blue;">[[Special:Contributions/Mr. Anon|teh awsome]]</span></option><option>[[User:Mr. Anon|Anon]]</option><option>[[User:Mr. Anon|Sir]] [[User Talk:Mr. Anon|Anon]] [[Special: Contributions/Mr. Anon| the great]]</option></choose> 18:52, July 25, 2010 (UTC)
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| ::Have YOU played it? It was King Boo in a costume. Bowser's actual size is smaller. <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:Megatron1|Megatron1]] ([[User talk:Megatron1|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Megatron1|contribs]]) </small>
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| :::Master Hand wasn't intended to be played as. Any character can be played as through hacks.--<span style="font-family:Forte">[[User:Megatron1|<span style="color:maroon">Mega</span>]][[User talk:Megatron1|<span style="color:silver">Tron1</span>]][[User:Megatron1/Laughology|<span style="color:blue">XD</span>]]</span>[[File:Decepticon.png|20px|:p]] 06:14, July 26, 2010 (UTC)
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| :::First of all, no, it wasn't Boo in a costume, it was Boo posessing an undead Bowser. Second of all, that was a comment I made months ago. I could have been blocked back then, yet still validly run for adminship now. Third of all, that's not the point. MH is huge, the size of a regular boss, yet he doesn't seem too out of proportion. <choose><option><span style="color:red;">[[User:Mr. Anon|Mr.]]</span> <span style="color:green;">[[User talk:Mr. Anon|Anon]]</span> <span style="color:blue;">[[Special:Contributions/Mr. Anon|teh awsome]]</span></option><option>[[User:Mr. Anon|Anon]]</option><option>[[User:Mr. Anon|Sir]] [[User Talk:Mr. Anon|Anon]] [[Special: Contributions/Mr. Anon| the great]]</option></choose> 04:30, July 28, 2010 (UTC)
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| I read somewhere that Ridley was supposed to be playable but he lost to [[King Dedede]]. Now argue over if it was really worth it to put in Ridley over Dedede. I think it is because Masahiro Sakurai is overrepresenting his own series again, which is why Dedede wasn't playable in [[SSB]] or [[Melee]], not to mention Meta Knight is number 1 on the tier which is no fault of Sakurai. But if Ridley were in Brawl, Meta Knight might not have been the great oh awesomeness everyone seems to think he is when he is actually cheasy and lame in my opinion. So I think Ridley could've dominated Meta Knight which is a great reason for why he should've been in Brawl. Zero Suit Samus is like Sheik, so for all of you who wanted Young Link for Brawl too, is it Sheik's fault? Also, Ridley wasn't so big in the original Metroid was he? [[User:Mintstarr|Mintstarr]] ([[User Talk:Mintstarr|Talk]]) 19:30, July 27, 2010 (UTC)
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| :Samus=Almost Bowser Ridley=2x Samus. Also, the creators didn't predict the tisr list. No one knew that Meta Knight would be first or Ganondorf would be last.--<span style="font-family:Forte">[[User:Megatron1|<span style="color:maroon">Mega</span>]][[User talk:Megatron1|<span style="color:silver">Tron1</span>]][[User:Megatron1/Laughology|<span style="color:blue">XD</span>]]</span>[[File:Decepticon.png|20px|:p]] 00:45, July 28, 2010 (UTC)
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| Yeah but now everyone seems to think that Meta Knight is the best. That might've been different if Ridley was in Brawl. I also think Ridley is a better character overall than Meta Knight [[User:Mintstarr|Mintstarr]] ([[User Talk:Mintstarr|Talk]]) 04:13, July 28, 2010 (UTC)
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| :How? <choose><option><span style="color:red;">[[User:Mr. Anon|Mr.]]</span> <span style="color:green;">[[User talk:Mr. Anon|Anon]]</span> <span style="color:blue;">[[Special:Contributions/Mr. Anon|teh awsome]]</span></option><option>[[User:Mr. Anon|Anon]]</option><option>[[User:Mr. Anon|Sir]] [[User Talk:Mr. Anon|Anon]] [[Special: Contributions/Mr. Anon| the great]]</option></choose> 04:26, July 28, 2010 (UTC)
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| :Your reasons for Ridley being excluded from the playable cast are poor and highly unlikely. Whenever you read something, you have to considered the source. Unless what you read was about something Sakurai said that's from a reliable source, chances are it's not true. As for King Dedede being the reason that's Ridley is not playable is quite ridiculous. Firstly, three characters is far from over representing a series. Secondly, the main reason Dedede was supposedly not playable in the first two games was due to time and/or memory constraints. Since Dedede was supposed to be planned since the first game, King Dedede was likely one of the first newcomers planned, which reduces the likelihood of the situation you presented where the developers had only enough time to only choose between Dedede and Ridley. The likely reason Ridley is not playable is because the developers felt he would be more suitable as a SSE boss, not because King Dedede is playable. As for you saying if Ridley was playable that Meta Knight would be dominated by him is just stupid speculation. There is no way to know how good a nonplayable character would have been and saying Ridley would have made Meta Knight not a great character is just ridiculous. Considering how good Meta Knight is, Ridley would either have to be a god tier character, which would just cause even more problems than Meta Knight has had, or the theoretical playable Ridley would have to have a matchup around 75:25 or better against Meta Knight while having a reasonable matchup against the majority of the remaining characters, which would be nearly impossible to do. For Ridley to dominate Meta Knight, the former would almost always have to be the case, which would cause people to not want him to be playable. Now then, if Ridley was god tier and dominated Meta Knight, do you think Meta Knight would still be the character that people complained about being too good? Simply no, Ridley would be the one attracting the complaints of being too good and be the one that people would call to be banned. After such a theoretical ban on Ridley, then Meta Knight could attract the attention he has now. As such, saying Ridley should be playable since he would "dominate" Meta Knight is a very poor reason as if such was true, Meta Knight wouldn't be the character you would be complaining about being too good (barring the near impossibility that Ridley somehow hard countered Meta Knight while keeping a reasonable matchup against the majority of the remaining cast). Also, you saying Sheik was the reason Young Link wasn't in Brawl is just plain ridiculous (um, do you know who Toon Link is?). <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[Image: TyranitarMS.png|25px ]] 04:29, July 28, 2010 (UTC)
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| :Also, there is no way he's over reperasenting the franchise. Kirby is one of Nintendo's largest and most popular franchises, yet for a long time, if anything, Sakurai was underepresenting the franchise. In fact, you might want to look at other series before saying stuff like this. Starfox also has three characters, despite only having 6 games, one of which wasn't even released, another of which was a remake, and a third was just the engine of some other game turned into a Starfox game. So in reality, Starfox only has 3 real games, compared to the many more real games Kirby has. <choose><option><span style="color:red;">[[User:Mr. Anon|Mr.]]</span> <span style="color:green;">[[User talk:Mr. Anon|Anon]]</span> <span style="color:blue;">[[Special:Contributions/Mr. Anon|teh awsome]]</span></option><option>[[User:Mr. Anon|Anon]]</option><option>[[User:Mr. Anon|Sir]] [[User Talk:Mr. Anon|Anon]] [[Special: Contributions/Mr. Anon| the great]]</option></choose> 04:34, July 28, 2010 (UTC)
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| ::Seriously, why does everyone hate Meta Knight? So what, he's good. The creators balanced this out by giving him the worst Final Smash in the game. People didn't complain about Fox and Shiek dominating Melee, or Pikachu not giving anyone else a shot in SSB64. <choose><option><span style="color:red;">[[User:Mr. Anon|Mr.]]</span> <span style="color:green;">[[User talk:Mr. Anon|Anon]]</span> <span style="color:blue;">[[Special:Contributions/Mr. Anon|teh awsome]]</span></option><option>[[User:Mr. Anon|Anon]]</option><option>[[User:Mr. Anon|Sir]] [[User Talk:Mr. Anon|Anon]] [[Special: Contributions/Mr. Anon| the great]]</option></choose> 04:37, July 28, 2010 (UTC)
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| :::People hate Meta Knight because they feel he is too good or by their terms, he's "broken". Also, Meta Knight tends to dominate more than the previous tier leaders did. Not that I agree he is too good, I was reporting the fact that there are many people who think Meta Knight is too good and if what Mintstarr said was true, chances are that Ridley would be the one getting the negative attention and more so than Meta Knight has. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[Image: TyranitarMS.png|25px ]] 04:47, July 28, 2010 (UTC)
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| :::Ok forget the whole dedede and overrepresenting thing and the sse. Now im wondering if anyone else thinks that Ridley shouldve been playable and NOT LUCAS. Hes weak, wimpy, and has no point of life. Ridley wouldve worked better. And the whole mk thing was my opinion.
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| ::::You just touched a subject you should never have touched, because LUCAS IS MY MAIN! Ness himself is the same as him in their respective games except Ness is braver. Lucas was planned to replace Ness in SSBM because he was the latest star. Ridley is not the main villian of the whole franchise. Metroid are always the main villian. Lucas was at least the main hero. Lucas is not weak. In SSBB, his smashes have good KO potential but can miss easily. Not the point though. I can't provide a wall of text, but guess what. Lucas isn't weak, wimpy, and pointless. If anything, EVER CHARACTER CAN BE WEAK, WIMPY, AND POINTLESS. It's your view on this. And frankly, Nintendo doesn't care about a non worker's view.--<span style="font-family:Forte">[[User:Megatron1|<span style="color:maroon">Mega</span>]][[User talk:Megatron1|<span style="color:silver">Tron1</span>]][[User:Megatron1/Laughology|<span style="color:blue">XD</span>]]</span>[[File:Decepticon.png|20px|:p]] 15:24, July 28, 2010 (UTC)
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| :::::Thats means they don't care about your view either. They don't even know me. Samus and Peach are my favorites but lots of people deny and hate them but I'm not offending them am I? And Ridley is a better FIGHTER than lucas. metroid Fighting Vs. Earthbound fighting. Easy to know which has better fighting skills. In the SSE he was all mopey and sad. Maybe he isn't weak but that's how I see him. I ranked him last js. Also, it was true what I said about dedede beating [[Ridley]]. check the trivia. Also about sheik, toon and young link, I was making a point and I know tl replaced yl. But if since ZSS is being blamed for ridley not being in I wanted to show them how ridiculous it looked. And the whole mk thing was my personal opinion. [[User:Mintstarr|Mintstarr]] ([[User Talk:Mintstarr]]) 15:34, July 28, 2010 (UTC)
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| ::::::Both of you stop this, everyone has their own opinion on each character. But you do not insult someone simply for disliking your main. This forum is supposed to be about why Ridley was not made a playable character, not about whether or not Ridley would be a better fighter than an existing character. If one of you makes another post on this forum, it better be relevant to the topic. As for the Ridley dominating Meta Knight reason, it was very flawed one and I was simply pointing out the flaws in what you said. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[Image: TyranitarMS.png|25px ]] 15:42, July 28, 2010 (UTC)
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| ::::::Also, for the trivia Mintstarr, it does not say Ridley lost a playable character spot to King Dedede. It is saying that in Japanese polls for who people think should be a playable character in ''Brawl'' that Ridley won the second most amount of them, only having won less than Dedede. That has nothing to do with Dedede being the reason Ridley is not a playable character. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[Image: TyranitarMS.png|25px ]] 15:48, July 28, 2010 (UTC)
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| :::::::All I wanna say is that Ridley lost to Dedede is true but probably not the main reason he isn't playable.[[User:Mintstarr|Mintstarr]] ([[User Talk:Mintstarr|Talk]]) 15:51, July 28, 2010 (UTC)
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| ::::::::Ridley losing to Dedede is not what the trivia is saying. What the trivia is saying is that in polls that were held in Japan that asked people on who they thought should be a playable character, Ridley won the second most amount of them with Dedede being the only character having to won more. Ridley did not explicitly "lose" to Dedede as these polls also included other characters, not just these two. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[Image: TyranitarMS.png|25px ]] 16:02, July 28, 2010 (UTC)
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| Metroids are not always the main villain. Mother Brain has been the most recurring final boss in that series [[User:Oni Dark Link|<font color="#66FFFF">Oni]]</font> [[Special:Editcount/Oni Dark Link|<font color="#7F007F">Dark ]]</font> [[User:Oni Dark Link/Curiosity Trading one or two?|<font color="#007A00">Link]]</font> 18:27, July 28, 2010 (UTC)
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| :::::::::Well he didn't exactly lose to King Dedede, it was just influence on who should be playable. If Ridley had more votes than dedede, there would've been a better chance ridley would've been playable, but not for certain.[[User:Mintstarr|Mintstarr]] ([[User Talk:Mintstarr|Talk]]) 18:41, July 29, 2010 (UTC)
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| ::::::::::No, you're not getting the point. These were multiple polls that had more than just Ridley and King Dedede on them. The trivia says Ridley had the most votes in four of these polls, with Dedede being the only character who came first in more polls (Dedede won five of them). If this trivia is true, it increased Ridley's chance of being a playable character, not decreased it. The fact that Ridley was chosen to be a boss instead of a playable character likely wouldn't have changed if Ridley had won one or two more of these polls, considering that Ridley was already a popular character choice to be in "Brawl", evident by coming first in more of these polls than any character other than King Dedede. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[Image: TyranitarMS.png|25px ]] 20:10, July 29, 2010 (UTC)
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