Editing Forum:Smash Arena Suggestions

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This forum has the purpose of helping to select what battles will eventually take place in the [[Forum:Smash Arena|Smash Arena]]. If you would like to make a suggestion, please feel free to leave it here. '''''New suggestions are placed at the bottom of the page'''''. Be sure to state your reason you suggested it and put the support, reject, and comments sections underneath it.

Like the idea? Be sure to give it your support. Note that this page is not to be used for the actual voting between fighters; that happens in the Arena itself. Remember, the combatants don't necessarily have to be able to fight each other normally in Smash Bros.

=Rules=
===Posting suggestions===
*Only Smash Bros.-related fights are permitted. Fights don't have to be between playable characters, but the combatants must have appeared in at least one Smash Bros. game.
**Outside very specific circumstances, no fights are allowed between combatants that only appear in a game (or a batch of downloadable content) that has yet to be released.
*If there are already 10 open suggestions, you should probably reconsider adding a new one. If there are 15, it is highly recommended you do not. There is no limit to the number of open suggestions, but having too many clutters the page and makes it more difficult to keep track of.
*[[SmashWiki:Smash Arena#History|Check this list]] to view the fights that have been done. Repeat fights are permitted if they occurred '''100 or more rounds ago'''. As matchups over 100 rounds ago are moved off that particular list, the list is the definitive source on what can't be repeated. Note that repeats close to this cutoff may still be valid if the queue is full enough that the fight's acceptance will allow it to be outside the 100-round zone.
*Do not post more than one suggestion at a time. Each user may post '''one suggestion per week''' (i.e. one every seven days).
*'''Sign your suggestions/votes/comments with <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> and a # in front of it''' (you don't necessarily have to put # in the comments sections, but you do have to sign with <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>).
*Place new suggestions at '''the bottom''' of the page.
*You can retract and remove your own suggestion, but it still counts as your suggestion for that week.
**If your suggestion is removed because it's invalid or because your week isn't up, it doesn't count as your suggestion for that week. That said, users who constantly post invalid or rapid-fire suggestions may be suspended from suggesting for a few weeks, and may risk [[SW:PROB|probation]].
*Similarly to the above, you cannot edit a suggestion once people have started to vote on it. Editing the description is fine, just don't alter the combatants.

===Voting and comments===
*Don't vote on your own suggestion.
*Post '''why''' you support/oppose. Don't just say, "Oh, this is a cool idea". Explain why you like/don't like the fight. This is not required but adds credence to your opinion - remember, suggestions are not accepted or rejected based on a simple vote count.
*The comments section is to be used for relevant comments only.
*Do not use this page to argue with other users over their reasons and opinions. You can civilly point out an inconsistency or mistake in their description, but if you say things like, "That's stupid", that could potentially start an argument in the comments, you are breaching this rule.
*'''Do not make this page into the Smash Arena itself.''' This is for deciding what goes there, not voting on the winner.

===Acceptance or rejection===
*'''The SA operator(s) has final say over all the fights.''' Suggestions and comments are merely a way for the community to influence the fights, and can be used, edited, or ignored at the operator(s)'s discretion.
*Acceptance of fights is not based simply on votes. The votes are used to judge the community's opinion of the matchup; again it is solely the operator(s)'s decision on what the bouts are.
*Suggestions are purged every time a new Smash Arena round is posted. It is at this time they are either accepted and placed into the queue, or they are rejected. Not all suggestions are purged at once - only those that are both older than the rest and have higher vote counts. Usually suggestions need at least 5 votes to be decided upon, unless they are very old.
**In the vein of the above, do not repost a suggestion of yours that has been removed recently, since it's either already lined up or been rejected. See the Queue section for an idea of how long it may take for your suggestion to show up.
*If a suggestion of yours has been rejected in the past, you may repost it three months (90 days) after its rejection. However, it is unlikely for a rejected suggestion to be accepted in the future, so it is likely more productive to suggest something else.
*Descriptions are not guaranteed to be included as-is should a suggestion pass.

=Tips=
*In most cases, the combatants of a match should share similarities but have key differences. However, matchups between total opposites are also interesting. Avoid the middle ground where combatants have little in common but are also not polar opposites.
*Protagonist vs. antagonist matches (e.g. Mario vs. Bowser) are valid, and many of them succeed in the arena, but are usually pushed aside by the community in favour of matchups that are less "obvious". Matchups born from in-game events (e.g. Subspace Emissary groupings) or matchups that are big in their home universes but not necessarily in Smash Bros. (e.g. legendary Pokémon fights) tend to fall into this as well.
*While rematches are valid once 100 rounds have passed, do not expect much enthusiasm for them unless the original match was very close or a tie.
*Regular matches (one-on-one) are favoured far more than three-way fights. If you have an idea for a three-way fight, see if one of the three combatants is really necessary, and try to get it down to two. Fights of more than three participants have to be sock-knocking genius in order to be even considered, so unless you're convinced it will be very popular, turn your efforts to something else.
*The description can sway peoples' opinions of a matchup. While the most interesting suggestions can be accepted on their own merits, those in the middle can be made or broken by how you present them.

=Queue=
The current queue is as such:
{{SA Queue}}
Hover the cursor over a round number to see its predicted start date. Empty spots are shown in grey.

When the queue becomes full (all the grey spots are filled up), suggestions will be suspended. You may continue to vote on current suggestions, but no more may be proposed. Once the queue drains out to a size of one, suggestions will be re-opened.

The queue is not set in stone; new suggestions may appear before older ones and it may change at any time. The queue attempts to balance out fights so that specific participants or universes aren't used too much in a short time.

The contents of the queue are a secret to maintain mystery and intrigue.

=Show Your Support=
{{SA Box}}
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[[Template:SA Box|<code><nowiki>{{SA Box}}</nowiki></code>]] - Smash Arena userbox; originally by [[User:Squallinoa_08|Squallinoa 08]], modified by [[User:Toomai|Toomai]]. If you wish, place it on your user page. It will tell you the new fights as they happen.

=Template=
To make a suggestion the easy way, copy the following code, paste it into the bottom of the editing window, and fill out the relevant parts:
<pre>
==<participant 1> vs. <participant 2>==

<description of fight, maybe a few reasons you think it would be a good matchup> ~~~~

===Support===

===Oppose===

===Comments===
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=Suggestions=

== {{SSB4|Dr. Mario}} vs. {{SSB4|Lucina}} vs. {{SSB4|Dark Pit}} ==

Battle of the "<s>should</s> could have been a costume" characters! [[User:FirstaLasto|<font color="pink">♡</font>'''Firsta'''Lasto<font color="pink">♥</font>]] 12:24, 24 March 2015 (EDT)

===Support===
# [[:User:ZeldaStarfoxfan2164|ZeldaStarfoxfan2164]] ([[User talk:ZeldaStarfoxfan2164|talk]]) is a never lover boy  22:24, 24 March 2015 (EDT)
#This seems like it would be the most interesting. <span style="color: lime">'''Nyargle'''</span><span style="color: orange">'''blargle'''</span> ([[User talk:Nyargleblargle|Talk]]) 12:52, 19 April 2015 (EDT)
#[[User:Dots|<font color="red">'''D'''</font><font color="green">'''o'''</font><font color="blue">'''t'''</font><font color="purple">'''s'''</font>]] ([[User talk:Dots|talk]]) [[File:Mega Man X SNES sprite.png|19px]] The Wolf 17:03, 19 April 2015 (EDT)
#I'm all for it, man.[[User:LittleMacmain97|LittleMacmain97, lord of the punch.]] ([[User talk:LittleMacmain97|talk]]) 15:58, 5 May 2015 (EDT)
#Seems like an interesting matchup. [[User:Berrenta|Berrenta]] ([[User talk:Berrenta|talk]]) 00:38, 19 June 2015 (EDT)

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==[[Shadow Moses Island]] vs. [[Gamer]]==
These two stages have lights that add an element of stealth into the mix. One adds it for fun while the other keeps the fighters on their toes. But which of these stages shines the brightest? '''[[User:JamesHeart123|<font color="blue">James</font>]]'''[[File:JH-Heartless.png|15px|link=Special:Contributions/JamesHeart123]]'''[[User talk:JamesHeart123|<font color="orange">Heart</font>]]''' 21:20, 24 March 2015 (EDT)

===Support===
#Both stages have their own unique quirks, this would be an interesting vote I reckon. [[Special:Contributions/180.149.192.133|180.149.192.133]] 17:53, 25 March 2015 (EDT)
#These are memorable stages with character. [[User:ZatannaCobblepot|ZatannaCobblepot]] ([[User talk:ZatannaCobblepot|talk]]) 02:49, 27 March 2015 (EDT)
#[[User:Dots|<font color="red">'''D'''</font><font color="green">'''o'''</font><font color="blue">'''t'''</font><font color="purple">'''s'''</font>]] ([[User talk:Dots|talk]]) [[File:Mega Man X SNES sprite.png|19px]] The Wolf 17:03, 19 April 2015 (EDT)
#Yes. YES. JUST. YES. [[Special:Contributions/76.5.56.188|76.5.56.188]] 19:15, 27 September 2015 (EDT) < I have now revealed my IP and am no longer secure. Can I talk to someone about this?

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===Comments===
#I don't know, SMI's light is inaffective while Gamer's has an effect. [[User:Cherrim98|<font color="green">Cherrim</font><font color="red">98</font>]][[File:Cherrim Box Sprite.png|32px]][[User talk:Cherrim98|''<span style="color: pink;">Talk</span>'']]  15:19, 17 June 2015 (EDT)

==[[Dr. Mario]] vs. [[Mewtwo]]==

These two are the "comeback" characters in the Smash series. Debuted in Melee, cut from Brawl, but back in SSB4. To celebrate the Mewtwo DLC nearly being finished, it's time for the comebacks to face off. [[User:Meester Tweester|Meester Tweester]] ([[User talk:Meester Tweester|talk]]) 00:28, 26 March 2015 (EDT)

===Support===
#it's a pretty good idea cuz mewtwo now has official artwork and his own trailer. i would also vote my favorite pokemon  i'm [[:User:Valehd|Valehd]] the smashbro pro!([[User talk:Valehd|talk]])tawlk 2 teh catholic pokemon master 21:50, 4 April 2015 (EDT)
#Eh, why not. [[User:Dots|<font color="red">'''D'''</font><font color="green">'''o'''</font><font color="blue">'''t'''</font><font color="purple">'''s'''</font>]] ([[User talk:Dots|talk]]) [[File:Mega Man X SNES sprite.png|19px]] The Wolf 17:03, 19 April 2015 (EDT)
#Now that Mewtwo has been released I think this is a good idea [[User:73MPL4R|'''<span style="color:#857363">73MPL4R</span>''']][[User talk:73MPL4R|'''<span style="color:#505050"> Only the dead have seen the end of war</span>''']] 10:04, 21 April 2015 (EDT)
#Two guys who were like "I'm not dead".[[:User:ZeldaStarfoxfan2164|ZeldaStarfoxfan2164]] ([[User talk:ZeldaStarfoxfan2164|talk]]) is bad for me  20:55, 7 June 2015 (EDT)
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===Comments===
I kind of think this one should wait for Mewtwo's release (or at least official art). [[User:FirstaLasto|<font color="pink">♡</font>'''Firsta'''Lasto<font color="pink">♥</font>]] 00:42, 28 March 2015 (EDT)

Lucas should be added to this fight! He wasn't in ''Melee'', but he is a cut veteran who returned. [[User:John3637881|John]] ([[User talk:John3637881|talk]]) 09:57, 21 April 
2015 (EDT)
:Technically Lucas wasn't cut. He's in Brawl, he's in the next game. [[Special:Contributions/72.106.144.128|72.106.144.128]] 17:17, 27 April 2015 (EDT)

May I propose the addition of our boy? [[User: Nyargleblargle|<span style="color: lime">'''Nyargle'''</span><span style="color: orange">'''blargle'''</span>]] ([[User talk:Nyargleblargle|Talk]]) 21:38, 18 June 2015 (EDT)
:That would be a great idea, on the condition that how about this match could be done about four or so months after Roy's DLC release. Fresh new characters like Roy, Lucas, and Ryu probably means that players haven't had full thoughts on them yet. [[User:Dots|<font color="red">'''D'''</font><font color="green">'''o'''</font><font color="blue">'''t'''</font><font color="purple">'''s'''</font>]] ([[User talk:Dots|talk]]) [[File:Mega Man X SNES sprite.png|19px]] The Snow as White 23:30, 18 June 2015 (EDT)
:Recently, we had a Mewtwo vs Roy match, I'm not sure if that would be valid if Roy is included with Mewtwo. Maybe just wait a while before adding Roy. [[:User:ZeldaStarfoxfan2164|ZeldaStarfoxfan2164]] ([[User talk:ZeldaStarfoxfan2164|talk]]) is a never lover boy 

==[[Master Orders]] vs. [[Crazy Orders]]==

Which hand has a more interesting set of Special Orders? [[:User:ZeldaStarfoxfan2164|ZeldaStarfoxfan2164]] ([[User talk:ZeldaStarfoxfan2164|talk]]) is bad for me  19:42, 29 March 2015 (EDT)

===Support===
#[[User:ZatannaCobblepot|ZatannaCobblepot]] ([[User talk:ZatannaCobblepot|talk]]) 03:06, 26 April 2015 (EDT)
# Absolutely. [[User:ToastUltimatum|<font color="ff8c00">'''Toast'''</font>]] [[File:Wii U Logo Transparent.png|17px]][[User talk:ToastUltimatum|<font color="01a3c4">'''ltimatum'''</font>]] 07:24, 3 May 2015 (EDT)
#Although I think Crazy Orders is the better of the two, preferences people. [[User:Dots|<font color="red">'''D'''</font><font color="green">'''o'''</font><font color="blue">'''t'''</font><font color="purple">'''s'''</font>]] ([[User talk:Dots|talk]]) [[File:Mega Man X SNES sprite.png|19px]] The Heavy Weapons Guy 10:27, 6 June 2015 (EDT)

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==[[Kongo Jungle (SSB)]] vs. [[Kongo Jungle (SSBM)]]==
Two identically-named, multi-platform stages that represent the DK universe, are made of wood, and both make usage of Barrel Cannons. Which is superior?! [[User:MeatBall104|MeatBall104]] ([[User talk:MeatBall104|talk]]) 22:46, 29 March 2015 (EDT)

===Support:===
#[[User:ZatannaCobblepot|ZatannaCobblepot]] ([[User talk:ZatannaCobblepot|talk]]) 23:51, 29 March 2015 (EDT)
#[[User:Dots|<font color="red">'''D'''</font><font color="green">'''o'''</font><font color="blue">'''t'''</font><font color="purple">'''s'''</font>]] ([[User talk:Dots|talk]]) [[File:Mega Man X SNES sprite.png|19px]] The Wolf 17:03, 19 April 2015 (EDT)
#[[:User:ZeldaStarfoxfan2164|ZeldaStarfoxfan2164]] ([[User talk:ZeldaStarfoxfan2164|talk]]) is bad for me  20:55, 7 June 2015 (EDT)

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===Comments:===

==[[Kirby]] vs. [[Pit]]==

Two floaty-type heroes. Sakurai created the first and breathed new life into the second. But is it Dream Land or Angel Land taking home the win? [[User:ZatannaCobblepot|ZatannaCobblepot]] ([[User talk:ZatannaCobblepot|talk]]) 23:51, 29 March 2015 (EDT)

===Support===
#Sounds good to me. [[User:FirstaLasto|<font color="pink">♡</font>'''Firsta'''Lasto<font color="pink">♥</font>]] 15:13, 17 April 2015 (EDT)
#[[User:Dots|<font color="red">'''D'''</font><font color="green">'''o'''</font><font color="blue">'''t'''</font><font color="purple">'''s'''</font>]] ([[User talk:Dots|talk]]) [[File:Mega Man X SNES sprite.png|19px]] The Wolf 17:03, 19 April 2015 (EDT)
#Not to mention Sakurai created "floaties".[[:User:ZeldaStarfoxfan2164|ZeldaStarfoxfan2164]] ([[User talk:ZeldaStarfoxfan2164|talk]]) is bad for me  20:55, 7 June 2015 (EDT)
#I'm surprised I haven't broken the wiki from the amount of yes. [[Special:Contributions/76.5.56.188|76.5.56.188]] 19:14, 27 September 2015 (EDT) < I have now revealed my IP and am no longer secure. Can I talk to someone about this?
===Oppose===

===Comments===

== Donkey kong vs sonic ==

they are both mario's rivals who have their own series. they have a peice of clothing that would actually be considered an accesory. they both don't have any weapons. they're not from the same "video game company". sonic is about speed while donkey kong is about strength. why not have them in a battle?  i'm [[:User:Valehd|Valehd]] the smashbro pro!([[User talk:Valehd|talk]])tawlk 2 teh catholic pokemon master 15:33, 3 April 2015 (EDT)

===Support===
#Eh, Why Not. {{unsigned|Pikacraft360swag|18:06, 25 July 2015 (EDT)}}

===Oppose===
#Those reasons honestly sound a bit trivial to me. <span style="color: lime">'''Nyargle'''</span><span style="color: orange">'''blargle'''</span> ([[User talk:Nyargleblargle|Talk]]) 12:55, 19 April 2015 (EDT)
#^ I totally agree. [[Special:Contributions/72.105.4.229|72.105.4.229]] 15:57, 19 April 2015 (EDT)
#I don't get this match. [[User:Dots|<font color="red">'''D'''</font><font color="green">'''o'''</font><font color="blue">'''t'''</font><font color="purple">'''s'''</font>]] ([[User talk:Dots|talk]]) [[File:Mega Man X SNES sprite.png|19px]] The Wolf 17:03, 19 April 2015 (EDT)
#Not a fan of this. Being rivals of Mario is the only thing going for this one. Otherwise, they're both too different to warrant this. [[User:Berrenta|Berrenta]] ([[User talk:Berrenta|talk]]) 11:24, 30 June 2015 (EDT)

===Comments===
To the support, why not? Because it makes no sense, as the oppositions will tell you. Also, sign your comments. [[Special:Contributions/75.141.44.151|75.141.44.151]] 12:55, 26 July 2015 (EDT)

==[[Burning Dropkick]] vs. [[Flare Blitz]]:==
Two fire-type side-specials that involve the user launching forwards while being consumed in flames, all the while boosting their horizontal recoveries and stopping projectiles. Which one douses the other? [[User:MeatBall104|MeatBall104]] ([[User talk:MeatBall104|talk]]) 21:10, 11 April 2015 (EDT)

===Support:===
#This IP approves. [[Special:Contributions/76.5.56.188|76.5.56.188]] 19:13, 27 September 2015 (EDT) < I have now revealed my IP and am no longer secure. Can I talk to someone about this?

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===Comments:===

==[[Sheik]] vs. [[Shulk]]==
They have very similar names. That's my main reason for suggesting this, to be honest. [[User:ZatannaCobblepot|ZatannaCobblepot]] ([[User talk:ZatannaCobblepot|talk]]) 02:58, 19 April 2015 (EDT)

===Support===
#"Sounds" good to me. [[:User:ZeldaStarfoxfan2164|ZeldaStarfoxfan2164]] ([[User talk:ZeldaStarfoxfan2164|talk]]) is made in America  18:35, 30 May 2015 (EDT)

===Oppose===
#Other than the name, they're totally different. [[User: Nyargleblargle|<span style="color: lime">'''Nyargle'''</span><span style="color: orange">'''blargle'''</span>]] ([[User talk:Nyargleblargle|Talk]]) 11:13, 30 May 2015 (EDT)
#I agree with Nyargle. I can see it in the SA, but I can't see it doing well in it. Keep trying though. You'll get a better idea eventually. [[User:LittleMacmain97|LittleMacmain97, lord of the punch.]] ([[User talk:LittleMacmain97|talk]]) 15:18, 5 June 2015 (EDT)
#Thy're not that very similar really, and names aren't even a major similarity about them. [[User:Dots|<font color="red">'''D'''</font><font color="green">'''o'''</font><font color="blue">'''t'''</font><font color="purple">'''s'''</font>]] ([[User talk:Dots|talk]]) [[File:Mega Man X SNES sprite.png|19px]] The Heavy Weapons Guy 10:27, 6 June 2015 (EDT)
#I have to object to this one. They differ way too much! [[User:Berrenta|Berrenta]] ([[User talk:Berrenta|talk]]) 00:38, 19 June 2015 (EDT)

===Comments===

== [[Trophy Lottery]] v.s. [[Coin Launcher]] v.s. [[Trophy Rush]] ==
The main method for receive Trophies in the three games to contain them. Which one will launch to the top? [[Special:Contributions/72.105.4.229|72.105.4.229]] 15:55, 19 April 2015 (EDT)


===Support===
#This is a great idea. [[User:Dots|<font color="red">'''D'''</font><font color="green">'''o'''</font><font color="blue">'''t'''</font><font color="purple">'''s'''</font>]] ([[User talk:Dots|talk]]) [[File:Mega Man X SNES sprite.png|19px]] The Wolf 17:03, 19 April 2015 (EDT)
# Ditto!  i'm [[:User:Valehd|Valehd]] the smashbro pro!([[User talk:Valehd|talk]])tawlk 2 teh catholic pokemon master 18:29, 21 April 2015 (EDT)
# I like the idea! Seems fun! [[Special:Contributions/72.106.144.128|72.106.144.128]] 17:21, 27 April 2015 (EDT)
# It's a '''grate''' idea! '''''Nobody gets my joke.....''''' [[File:PikachuMS.png|20px]][[User:ThePikaPlayer|<span style="color: yellow;">'''Pika,'''</span>]] [[User:ThePikaPlayer|<span style="color: brown;">'''Wild Turkey appeared!'''</span>]] [[User talk:ThePikaPlayer|''<span style="color: cyan;">Talkz</span>'']] 12:49, 4 November 2015 (EST)

===Oppose===

===Comments===
A bit iffy on this one, Smash Wii U has two modes which revolves around collecting trophies, Trophy Shop, and Trophy Rush. Normally, I'd have both of them against Trophy Lottery and the Coin Launcher but 4 way matches are often frowned upon. [[:User:ZeldaStarfoxfan2164|ZeldaStarfoxfan2164]] ([[User talk:ZeldaStarfoxfan2164|talk]]) is bad for me  20:55, 7 June 2015 (EDT)

==[[Mii Brawler]] vs. [[Mii Swordfighter]] vs. [[Mii Gunner]]==

The three types of Mii Fighters go head to head. Choose your weapon. [[:User:ZeldaStarfoxfan2164|ZeldaStarfoxfan2164]] ([[User talk:ZeldaStarfoxfan2164|talk]]) is a never lover boy  19:14, 25 April 2015 (EDT)

===Support===
#Would be interesting to see which people prefer [[User:ZatannaCobblepot|ZatannaCobblepot]] ([[User talk:ZatannaCobblepot|talk]]) 03:06, 26 April 2015 (EDT)
#This just makes sense as a fight, and the Miis are designed to be archetypes, so it would be a great way to do a general round. [[User: Nyargleblargle|<span style="color: lime">'''Nyargle'''</span><span style="color: orange">'''blargle'''</span>]] ([[User talk:Nyargleblargle|Talk]]) 10:02, 2 May 2015 (EDT)
# How could we not [[User:ToastUltimatum|<font color="ff8c00">'''Toast'''</font>]] [[File:Wii U Logo Transparent.png|17px]][[User talk:ToastUltimatum|<font color="01a3c4">'''ltimatum'''</font>]] 07:25, 3 May 2015 (EDT)
#One of the first matches I had in mind when Smash 4 released. [[User:Dots|<font color="red">'''D'''</font><font color="green">'''o'''</font><font color="blue">'''t'''</font><font color="purple">'''s'''</font>]] ([[User talk:Dots|talk]]) [[File:Mega Man X SNES sprite.png|19px]] The Pumpkin 10:15, 3 May 2015 (EDT)
#I'm in! This match should have some... interesting results![[User:LittleMacmain97|LittleMacmain97, lord of the punch.]] ([[User talk:LittleMacmain97|talk]]) 15:31, 4 June 2015 (EDT)
#I have no preference on the Mii styles, actually, I like them equally, so it'll be cool to see what they think. [[Special:Contributions/75.141.44.222|75.141.44.222]] 14:56, 8 June 2015 (EDT)
#I don't have time to type how much yes this is. Plus, either my keyboard or the wiki itself would break anyway. [[Special:Contributions/76.5.56.188|76.5.56.188]] 19:12, 27 September 2015 (EDT) < I have now revealed my IP and am no longer secure. Can I talk to someone about this?
#I'm all-ears-and-thumbs. [[File:PikachuMS.png|20px]][[User:ThePikaPlayer|<span style="color: yellow;">'''Pika,'''</span>]] [[User:ThePikaPlayer|<span style="color: brown;">'''Wild Turkey appeared!'''</span>]] [[User talk:ThePikaPlayer|''<span style="color: cyan;">Talkz</span>'']] 13:05, 4 November 2015 (EST)

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==[[Mushroom Kingdom II]] vs. [[Magicant]]==

Two stages that take place inside the mind. Subcon v Magicant, watch out for Birdo and the Flying Men! [[User:ZatannaCobblepot|ZatannaCobblepot]] ([[User talk:ZatannaCobblepot|talk]]) 03:06, 26 April 2015 (EDT)

===Support===
#Seems good to me. [[Special:Contributions/72.106.144.128|72.106.144.128]] 17:15, 27 April 2015 (EDT)
#Same here. I think it can work quite nicely. [[User:Berrenta|Berrenta]] ([[User talk:Berrenta|talk]]) 00:38, 19 June 2015 (EDT)
#I like the idea. '''[[User:JamesHeart123|<font color="blue">James</font>]]'''[[File:JH-Heartless.png|15px|link=Special:Contributions/JamesHeart123]]'''[[User talk:JamesHeart123|<font color="orange">Heart</font>]]''' 10:38, 8 August 2015 (EDT)
#I would say yes, but my keyboard and the page would break from the amount of yes. [[Special:Contributions/76.5.56.188|76.5.56.188]] 19:11, 27 September 2015 (EDT) < I have now revealed my IP and am no longer secure. Can I talk to someone about this?

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===Comments===

== {{SSB4|Little Mac}} vs. {{SSB4|Link}}==
It's fist vs. sword in the battle of green heroes! The bruiser from the Bronx takes on the humble Hylian hero! It's time to settle the score and figure out if the punch really is mightier than the sword! [[User:LittleMacmain97]] 4:46 P.M. 04-30-15.

===Support===

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#I dunno, it just seems in favor of Little Mac, and it's kinda an arbitrary idea. [[Special:Contributions/75.141.44.196|75.141.44.196]] 09:58, 2 May 2015 (EDT)
#Yeah, kind of arbitrary, especially with the Mii Fighters fight. [[User: Nyargleblargle|<span style="color: lime">'''Nyargle'''</span><span style="color: orange">'''blargle'''</span>]] ([[User talk:Nyargleblargle|Talk]]) 10:00, 2 May 2015 (EDT)
#We've seem many bruiser vs. sword fights before and Little Mac and Link are not that very similar. [[User:Dots|<font color="red">'''D'''</font><font color="green">'''o'''</font><font color="blue">'''t'''</font><font color="purple">'''s'''</font>]] ([[User talk:Dots|talk]]) [[File:Mega Man X SNES sprite.png|19px]] The Heavy Weapons Guy 10:27, 6 June 2015 (EDT)
#Per Nyargleblargle. Plus, remember Doc Louis' '''''The punch is mightier than the sword!''''' quote? I can make a hundred jokes out of that. [[File:PikachuMS.png|20px]][[User:ThePikaPlayer|<span style="color: yellow;">'''Pika,'''</span>]] [[User:ThePikaPlayer|<span style="color: brown;">'''Wild Turkey appeared!'''</span>]] [[User talk:ThePikaPlayer|''<span style="color: cyan;">Talkz</span>'']] 13:07, 4 November 2015 (EST)

===Comments===
I get what you're saying. I'll try again after the current battle has ended. I've got some other ideas anyways.[[User:LittleMacmain97|LittleMacmain97, lord of the punch.]] ([[User talk:LittleMacmain97|talk]]) 14:41, 4 June 2015 (EDT)

I just noticed my week went up a long time ago. I'll try again tommorrow! [[User:LittleMacmain97|LittleMacmain97, lord of the punch.]] ([[User talk:LittleMacmain97|talk]]) 15:27, 4 June 2015 (EDT)

==[[mariowiki:Ashley's Song|Ashley's Song]] vs. [[dkwiki:DK Rap|DK Rap]]==

Examples of the rare 'songs with included lyrics' to return in the Wii U version, these themes that introduce us to characters are cheesy and also awesome (YMMV). But will magic or monkeys rule the dancefloor? [[User:ZatannaCobblepot|ZatannaCobblepot]] ([[User talk:ZatannaCobblepot|talk]]) 03:30, 3 May 2015 (EDT)

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#The DK Rap gets more and more hype as time goes on, Smash Arena is a logical step for it.  By the way, we have our [[List of SSBB Music (WarioWare, Inc. series)#Ashley's Song|own articles]] for music. [[User:ToastUltimatum|<font color="ff8c00">'''Toast'''</font>]] [[File:Wii U Logo Transparent.png|17px]][[User talk:ToastUltimatum|<font color="01a3c4">'''ltimatum'''</font>]] 07:27, 3 May 2015 (EDT)
#I don't think we've had a music battle before (and if we have, they are scarce). The Smash soundtracks are good enough that I think they could happen more often. These two songs work in particular as they come from two of the Mario sideseries. '''[[User:JamesHeart123|<font color="blue">James</font>]]'''[[File:JH-Heartless.png|15px|link=Special:Contributions/JamesHeart123]]'''[[User talk:JamesHeart123|<font color="orange">Heart</font>]]''' 10:38, 8 August 2015 (EDT)
#YES! [[Special:Contributions/76.5.56.188|76.5.56.188]] 19:10, 27 September 2015 (EDT) < I have now revealed my IP and am no longer secure. Can I talk to someone about this?
#'''''Yes!''''' [[File:PikachuMS.png|20px]][[User:ThePikaPlayer|<span style="color: yellow;">'''Pika,'''</span>]] [[User:ThePikaPlayer|<span style="color: brown;">'''Wild Turkey appeared!'''</span>]] [[User talk:ThePikaPlayer|''<span style="color: cyan;">Talkz</span>'']] 13:09, 4 November 2015 (EST)

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Why not add ''Nintendogs(Vocal Mix)'' to it? [[File:PikachuMS.png|20px]][[User:ThePikaPlayer|<span style="color: yellow;">'''Pika,'''</span>]] [[User:ThePikaPlayer|<span style="color: brown;">'''Wild Turkey appeared!'''</span>]] [[User talk:ThePikaPlayer|''<span style="color: cyan;">Talkz</span>'']] 13:09, 4 November 2015 (EST)

==[[Starman]] vs. [[Star Rod]]==
It's Starfy's Legend of the Seven Stars, or something of the sort. Both items are a bit boring, but the similarities are there. [[User:ToastUltimatum|<font color="ff8c00">'''Toast'''</font>]] [[File:Wii U Logo Transparent.png|17px]][[User talk:ToastUltimatum|<font color="01a3c4">'''ltimatum'''</font>]] 07:34, 3 May 2015 (EDT)

===Support===
#[[User:Dots|<font color="red">'''D'''</font><font color="green">'''o'''</font><font color="blue">'''t'''</font><font color="purple">'''s'''</font>]] ([[User talk:Dots|talk]]) [[File:Mega Man X SNES sprite.png|19px]] The Heavy Weapons Guy 10:27, 6 June 2015 (EDT)
#The Fault in Our Stars. [[:User:ZeldaStarfoxfan2164|ZeldaStarfoxfan2164]] ([[User talk:ZeldaStarfoxfan2164|talk]]) is bad for me  20:55, 7 June 2015 (EDT)
#We are all in the gutter, but some of us are looking at the stars [[User:ZatannaCobblepot|ZatannaCobblepot]] ([[User talk:ZatannaCobblepot|talk]]) 05:18, 4 July 2015 (EDT)

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#To me this seems like a random idea. They both say star, that's the only similarity. I dunno, it just doesn't seem Smash Arena-ish. [[Special:Contributions/75.141.44.196|75.141.44.196]] 13:30, 4 May 2015 (EDT)
#I don't see any other similarities either. They're just too different. [[User:Berrenta|Berrenta]] ([[User talk:Berrenta|talk]]) 00:38, 19 June 2015 (EDT)

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=={{SSB4|Sheik}} vs. {{SSB4|Greninja}}==
Ninjas. [[User:ToastUltimatum|<font color="ff8c00">'''Toast'''</font>]] [[File:Wii U Logo Transparent.png|17px]][[User talk:ToastUltimatum|<font color="01a3c4">'''ltimatum'''</font>]] 23:10, 11 May 2015 (EDT)

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#Although Sheik isn't exactly a ninja, they have very similar fighting styles. So I'm in. <small>---Preceding unsigned comment added by [[Special:MyPage|you]]. Or maybe [[User:Nutta Butta|Nutta.]] </small>  15:33, 30 May 2015 (EDT)
#I feel like this would be good. My only comment is the description. It needs a bit... more. But, then again, they don't have much in common. [[User:LittleMacmain97|LittleMacmain97, lord of the punch.]] ([[User talk:LittleMacmain97|talk]]) 15:19, 4 June 2015 (EDT)
#An okay match. Though I feel like that conquest already did this match itself. [[User:Dots|<font color="red">'''D'''</font><font color="green">'''o'''</font><font color="blue">'''t'''</font><font color="purple">'''s'''</font>]] ([[User talk:Dots|talk]]) [[File:Mega Man X SNES sprite.png|19px]] The Heavy Weapons Guy 10:27, 6 June 2015 (EDT)
#[[:User:ZeldaStarfoxfan2164|ZeldaStarfoxfan2164]] ([[User talk:ZeldaStarfoxfan2164|talk]]) is bad for me  20:55, 7 June 2015 (EDT)
#[[User:ZatannaCobblepot|ZatannaCobblepot]] ([[User talk:ZatannaCobblepot|talk]]) 05:18, 4 July 2015 (EDT)

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#Sheik is never specified as a ninja in OoT, she gives Link hints, songs, saves him from Ganondorf, and is Zelda, not a Ninja. Greninja... is a ninja. [[Special:Contributions/72.106.144.69|72.106.144.69]] 17:53, 16 May 2015 (EDT)

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==[[PK Fire]] vs. [[Arcfire]] vs. [[Flame Pillar]]==
Three fire-type side-specials that involve the user shooting some fire forwards and trapping opponents in it. Which of the three burns out its competition? '''[[User:MeatBall104|MeatBall104;]]''' [[User talk:MeatBall104|Almost driving!]] 10:09, 30 May 2015 (EDT)

===Support===
#[[User:Dots|<font color="red">'''D'''</font><font color="green">'''o'''</font><font color="blue">'''t'''</font><font color="purple">'''s'''</font>]] ([[User talk:Dots|talk]]) [[File:Mega Man X SNES sprite.png|19px]] The Heavy Weapons Guy 10:27, 6 June 2015 (EDT)
#Yes. [[Special:Contributions/76.5.56.188|76.5.56.188]] 19:09, 27 September 2015 (EDT) < I have now revealed my IP and am no longer secure. Can I talk to someone about this?

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===Comments===
I'm a bit iffy on this, as the match seems a bit arbitrary, but the moves are very similar. I'll stay neutral for now. [[User: Nyargleblargle|<span style="color: lime">'''Nyargle'''</span><span style="color: orange">'''blargle'''</span>]] ([[User talk:Nyargleblargle|Talk]]) 11:12, 30 May 2015 (EDT)

==[[Pirate Ship]] vs. [[Spirit Train]]==
All aboard! Do you prefer toon travelling by land or by sea? [[User:ZatannaCobblepot|ZatannaCobblepot]] ([[User talk:ZatannaCobblepot|talk]]) 10:38, 30 May 2015 (EDT)

===Support===
#[[User:Dots|<font color="red">'''D'''</font><font color="green">'''o'''</font><font color="blue">'''t'''</font><font color="purple">'''s'''</font>]] ([[User talk:Dots|talk]]) [[File:Mega Man X SNES sprite.png|19px]] The Heavy Weapons Guy 10:27, 6 June 2015 (EDT)
#[[File:Aidanzapunksignature.png|20px]][[User:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''Aidan'''</span>]], [[User talk:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''Master of Speed and Aura'''</span>]][[File:AidanzapunkSignaturesmall.PNG]] 14:39, 1 July 2015 (EDT)
#I like this better because I like both stages, and they're both Zelda! [[Special:Contributions/75.141.44.151|75.141.44.151]] 09:55, 6 July 2015 (EDT)
#Both Wind Waker trilogy stages. '''[[User:JamesHeart123|<font color="blue">James</font>]]'''[[File:JH-Heartless.png|15px|link=Special:Contributions/JamesHeart123]]'''[[User talk:JamesHeart123|<font color="orange">Heart</font>]]''' 10:38, 8 August 2015 (EDT)
#Yes. YES. YES! [[Special:Contributions/76.5.56.188|76.5.56.188]] 19:08, 27 September 2015 (EDT) < I have now revealed my IP and am no longer secure. Can I talk to someone about this?

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==[[Sector Z]] vs. [[Orbital Gate Assault]]==

Both of these stages are based of a specific space level in ''Star Fox'' involving missiles. Who has a better missile program? [[:User:ZeldaStarfoxfan2164|ZeldaStarfoxfan2164]] ([[User talk:ZeldaStarfoxfan2164|talk]]) is made in America  11:45, 30 May 2015 (EDT)

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#[[User:ZatannaCobblepot|ZatannaCobblepot]] ([[User talk:ZatannaCobblepot|talk]]) 02:42, 21 June 2015 (EDT)

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== {{SSB4|Lucas}} vs. {{SSB4|Mewtwo}}==
Their cuts from Smash received lots of fan outcry. They both have psychokinetic abilities. Were it not for DLC, they would have only appeared in one Smash game. And only one can bring home the win. [[Special:Contributions/76.5.59.191|76.5.59.191]] 14:41, 4 June 2015 (EDT)

===Support===
#This is one of the best ones I've heard, in my opinion.[[User:LittleMacmain97|LittleMacmain97]] ([[User talk:LittleMacmain97|talk]]) 19:00, 2 May 2015 (EDT)
#This ones pretty good but lets not have this until the Lucas DLC is released. [[User:Dots|<font color="red">'''D'''</font><font color="green">'''o'''</font><font color="blue">'''t'''</font><font color="purple">'''s'''</font>]] ([[User talk:Dots|talk]]) [[File:Mega Man X SNES sprite.png|19px]] The Heavy Weapons Guy 10:27, 6 June 2015 (EDT)
#Just...PERFECT!  i'm [[:User:Valehd|Valehd]] the smashbro pro!([[User talk:Valehd|talk]])tawlk 2 teh catholic pokemon master 10:41, 6 June 2015 (EDT)
#It's a safe bet now that Lucas has been released. [[User:Berrenta|Berrenta]] ([[User talk:Berrenta|talk]]) 00:38, 19 June 2015 (EDT)

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#Guys, I do believe that a "sock-knocking genius" fight has be found. This fight is epic on it's own, but what if [[Roy]] and [[Dr. Mario]] were added? Could this be a revolution, or am I just insane? Also, if [[Young Link]] or [[Pichu]] were to come back, and I think Young Link will, we could replace Lucas and have one big fat Melee comeback tournament! Thoughts? [[User:LittleMacmain97|LittleMacmain97, a new kind of noob.]] ([[User talk:LittleMacmain97|talk]]) 14:13, 26 June 2015 (EDT)
::I highly doubt Young Link will come back [[Toon Link (SSB4)|all things considered]]. But with the addition of Roy, I really think this fight is pretty useless, because what's making Roy different from Mewtucas? <small>---Preceding unsigned comment added by [[Special:MyPage|you]]. Or maybe [[User:Nutta Butta|Nutta.]] </small>  14:25, 26 June 2015 (EDT)
Well, I forgot about Toony. BUT Roy came back, and Ike replaced him, but if Ike isn't enough, then the role of Marth Clone was taken by Lucina. [[User:LittleMacmain97|LittleMacmain97, a new kind of noob.]] ([[User talk:LittleMacmain97|talk]]) 14:42, 26 June 2015 (EDT)
:::Had a moment of stupidity and didn't realize you're question about Mewtucas. Really, nothing is making em' different, but adding Roy in could possibly make the fight better. That's the way I look at it: If life gives ya [[Roy|a Binding Blade]], put it against two physic people. [[User:LittleMacmain97|LittleMacmain97, a new kind of noob.]] ([[User talk:LittleMacmain97|talk]]) 16:06, 26 June 2015 (EDT)

==[[Ridley]] vs. [[Metal Face]]==

Two bosses from futuristic worlds. A dragon of truly epic proportions vs. a loud-mouthed, human-hating cyborg. They both battle against futuristic weapon weilders, and now they cross paths and face each other. This fight's gonna get ugly. [[User:LittleMacmain97|LittleMacmain97, lord of the punch.]] ([[User talk:LittleMacmain97|talk]]) 19:50, 4 June 2015 (EDT)

===Support===
#You forgot that they're both bosses, which is the main reason I support this. [[User: Nyargleblargle|<span style="color: lime">'''Nyargle'''</span><span style="color: orange">'''blargle'''</span>]] ([[User talk:Nyargleblargle|Talk]]) 20:26, 4 June 2015 (EDT)
#Yes. YES. YES! HECK. FRICKING. YES! [[Special:Contributions/76.5.56.188|76.5.56.188]] 19:09, 27 September 2015 (EDT) < I have now revealed my IP and am no longer secure. Can I talk to someone about this?

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===comments===
I'll edit that in. Thanks for noticing! [[User:LittleMacmain97|LittleMacmain97, lord of the punch.]] ([[User talk:LittleMacmain97|talk]]) 21:37, 4 June 2015 (EDT)

I already suggests Ridley vs. Yellow Devil vs. Metal Face awhile ago... so I don't think this is necessary. <small>---Preceding unsigned comment added by [[Special:MyPage|you]]. Or maybe [[User:Nutta Butta|Nutta.]] </small>  16:00, 5 June 2015 (EDT)

i've never seen it. My apoligies. But was it accepeted? If not then shortening it like this might help. [[User:LittleMacmain97|LittleMacmain97, lord of the punch.]] ([[User talk:LittleMacmain97|talk]]) 00:36, 6 June 2015 (EDT)
:They don't exactly announce if it was accepted. But the rules say you should wait if a similar match was suggested recently until it happens/doesn't happen. <small>---Preceding unsigned comment added by [[Special:MyPage|you]]. Or maybe [[User:Nutta Butta|Nutta.]] </small>  20:57, 7 June 2015 (EDT)

::Sorry for any inconvience, nutta. By the way, your sig is really throwing me off. That thing's like a paradox, but it's also epic. You, sir, have bamboozled me. [[User:LittleMacmain97|LittleMacmain97, lord of the punch.]] ([[User talk:LittleMacmain97|talk]]) 00:04, 8 June 2015 (EDT)

==[[Final Cutter]] vs [[Aether]]== 
Pretty obvious connection. Both similar moves in the fact that both involve the character slashing up and then slamming down with a sword slam. --[[User:Myth|<font color="orange">'''Myth'''</font>]] [[File:Myth Kirby.png|19px|link=User talk:Myth]] 01:18, 6 June 2015 (EDT) 

===Support===
#This is a good one. I can totally see this one playing out in SA. Gotta say that I'm a little jealous that I didn't think of this. [[User:LittleMacmain97|LittleMacmain97, lord of the punch.]] ([[User talk:LittleMacmain97|talk]]) 20:42, 6 June 2015 (EDT)
#Seconded. [[User:Berrenta|Berrenta]] ([[User talk:Berrenta|talk]]) 00:38, 19 June 2015 (EDT)
#I main Ike, my brother mains Kirby. This one's pretty obvious to me. [[Special:Contributions/72.104.148.69|72.104.148.69]] 11:00, 20 June 2015 (EDT)
#[[User:ZatannaCobblepot|ZatannaCobblepot]] ([[User talk:ZatannaCobblepot|talk]]) 02:42, 21 June 2015 (EDT)
#Fifthed. [[Special:Contributions/76.5.56.188|76.5.56.188]] 19:07, 27 September 2015 (EDT) < I have now revealed my IP and am no longer secure. Can I talk to someone about this?

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== unova pokemon league vs kalos pokemon league ==

two pokemon leagues get together in a battle! oshawott vs froakie! tepig vs fennekin! snivy vs chespin! 5 VS 6!!! <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:Valehd|Valehd]] ([[User talk:Valehd|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Valehd|contribs]]) 09:36, June 6, 2015‎ (CDT)</small>

===Support=== 
#Well they're both Pokemon leagues and fans can determine which is better. [[:User:ZeldaStarfoxfan2164|ZeldaStarfoxfan2164]] ([[User talk:ZeldaStarfoxfan2164|talk]]) is made in America  13:26, 1 July 2015 (EDT)
#Both stages are one of my favorites in their games. '''[[User:JamesHeart123|<font color="blue">James</font>]]'''[[File:JH-Heartless.png|15px|link=Special:Contributions/JamesHeart123]]'''[[User talk:JamesHeart123|<font color="orange">Heart</font>]]''' 10:38, 8 August 2015 (EDT)

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#It just seems to obvious. Like it says at the top of the page, obvious stuff will probably be brushed off for something unexcpected. [[User:LittleMacmain97|LittleMacmain97, a new kind of noob.]] ([[User talk:LittleMacmain97|talk]]) 03:10, 1 July 2015 (EDT)

===Comments===
As much as I would like to support this, you're missing a ton of things. Most importantly,  proper capitalization (though that's mainly a nitpick) and a signature. Without a signature, how are we supposed to know who suggested this? [[User:Berrenta|Berrenta]] ([[User talk:Berrenta|talk]]) 12:27, 22 June 2015 (EDT)

== [[Mega Man]] vs [[Ryu]] ==

two Capcom characters both in Smash 4.  Which one is the better Capcom rep? [[User:MarioIsTheBest|MarioIsTheBest]] ([[User talk:MarioIsTheBest|talk]]) 10:34, 14 June 2015 (EDT)

===Support===
#I just had this in mind. [[User:Dots|<font color="red">'''D'''</font><font color="green">'''o'''</font><font color="blue">'''t'''</font><font color="purple">'''s'''</font>]] ([[User talk:Dots|talk]]) [[File:Mega Man X SNES sprite.png|19px]] The Wii 21:18, 18 June 2015 (EDT)
#[[User:ZatannaCobblepot|ZatannaCobblepot]] ([[User talk:ZatannaCobblepot|talk]]) 02:42, 21 June 2015 (EDT)
#We gotta do this one. [[User:LittleMacmain97|LittleMacmain97, a new kind of noob.]] ([[User talk:LittleMacmain97|talk]]) 12:21, 26 June 2015 (EDT)
#[[File:Aidanzapunksignature.png|20px]][[User:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''Aidan'''</span>]], [[User talk:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''Master of Speed and Aura'''</span>]][[File:AidanzapunkSignaturesmall.PNG]] 13:41, 30 June 2015 (EDT)
#Yes. [[Special:Contributions/76.5.56.188|76.5.56.188]] 19:06, 27 September 2015 (EDT) < I have now revealed my IP and am no longer secure. Can I talk to someone about this?

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==[[Landmaster]] vs. [[Critical Hit]]==

Two Final Smashes used by three characters. Is Sakurai not being creative with Final Smashes nowadays? [[:User:ZeldaStarfoxfan2164|ZeldaStarfoxfan2164]] ([[User talk:ZeldaStarfoxfan2164|talk]]) is bad for me  13:49, 17 June 2015 (EDT)

===Support===
#I would also like to say that they may be the two best Final Smashes in Brawl and Smash 4 (maybe Super Sonic is better), but I'll take it. [[User:Dots|<font color="red">'''D'''</font><font color="green">'''o'''</font><font color="blue">'''t'''</font><font color="purple">'''s'''</font>]] ([[User talk:Dots|talk]]) [[File:Mega Man X SNES sprite.png|19px]] The Wii 21:18, 18 June 2015 (EDT)
#[[User:ZatannaCobblepot|ZatannaCobblepot]] ([[User talk:ZatannaCobblepot|talk]]) 02:42, 21 June 2015 (EDT)
#[[User:LittleMacmain97|LittleMacmain97, a new kind of noob.]] ([[User talk:LittleMacmain97|talk]]) 00:52, 1 July 2015 (EDT)
#All my yes. [[Special:Contributions/76.5.56.188|76.5.56.188]] 19:06, 27 September 2015 (EDT) < I have now revealed my IP and am no longer secure. Can I talk to someone about this?

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===Comments===
Actually, Sakurai is being mega creative, have you seen Ryu's final SmashES? [[Special:Contributions/75.141.44.151|75.141.44.151]] 09:57, 6 July 2015 (EDT)

==[[Shulk]] vs. [[Lucina]]==

While both are sword users, they both have something else in common as well: in their respective games, they sought to challenge destiny and change the future. So, who's the better foreseer? [[User:Berrenta|Berrenta]] ([[User talk:Berrenta|talk]]) 00:39, 20 June 2015 (EDT)

===Support===
#[[User:ZatannaCobblepot|ZatannaCobblepot]] ([[User talk:ZatannaCobblepot|talk]]) 02:42, 21 June 2015 (EDT)
#'''[[User:JamesHeart123|<font color="blue">James</font>]]'''[[File:JH-Heartless.png|15px|link=Special:Contributions/JamesHeart123]]'''[[User talk:JamesHeart123|<font color="orange">Heart</font>]]''' 10:38, 8 August 2015 (EDT)
#The future is not written! The future is ours to decide! [[Special:Contributions/76.5.56.188|76.5.56.188]] 19:06, 27 September 2015 (EDT) < I have now revealed my IP and am no longer secure. Can I talk to someone about this?

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==[[Dillon]] vs. [[Sheriff]]==

Two western-themed assist trophies face off in a duel. [[User:ZatannaCobblepot|ZatannaCobblepot]] ([[User talk:ZatannaCobblepot|talk]]) 02:42, 21 June 2015 (EDT)

===Support===
#I can get behind this. [[User:Berrenta|Berrenta]] ([[User talk:Berrenta|talk]]) 08:17, 21 June 2015 (EDT)
#Being a country boy myself, I couldn't let this one go by. YEEEEEHAWWW [[User:LittleMacmain97|LittleMacmain97, a new kind of noob.]] ([[User talk:LittleMacmain97|talk]]) 16:53, 26 June 2015 (EDT)
#Absolutely, please. [[User:ToastUltimatum|<font color="ff8c00">'''Toast'''</font>]] [[File:Wii U Logo Transparent.png|17px]][[User talk:ToastUltimatum|<font color="01a3c4">'''ltimatum'''</font>]] 20:39, 30 June 2015 (EDT)
#[[User:Dots|<font color="red">'''D'''</font><font color="green">'''o'''</font><font color="blue">'''t'''</font><font color="purple">'''s'''</font>]] ([[User talk:Dots|talk]]) [[File:Mega Man X SNES sprite.png|19px]] The Silver 14:45, 1 July 2015 (EDT)

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# My least favorite Assist Trophies. Also, I just don't think Sheriff looks or acts westerny. [[Special:Contributions/75.141.44.151|75.141.44.151]] 11:54, 24 July 2015 (EDT)

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== [[Snake]] vs. [[Captain Falcon]] ==

So I did some researching, and found this fight in the archives. I noticed it was ''extremely'' close to a tie, and then rechecked the rules. It's a valid fight. Battle of the manliest men alive. PART TWO! [[User:LittleMacmain97|LittleMacmain97, a new kind of noob.]] ([[User talk:LittleMacmain97|talk]]) 17:13, 26 June 2015 (EDT)


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#Not a fan of rematches of any kind, unless they're part of a three-way fight. [[:User:ZeldaStarfoxfan2164|ZeldaStarfoxfan2164]] ([[User talk:ZeldaStarfoxfan2164|talk]]) is made in America  17:32, 26 June 2015 (EDT)
#Not to mention, I don't even think this is a match worth rematching. [[User:Dots|<font color="red">'''D'''</font><font color="green">'''o'''</font><font color="blue">'''t'''</font><font color="purple">'''s'''</font>]] ([[User talk:Dots|talk]]) [[File:Mega Man X SNES sprite.png|19px]] The Melee 13:24, 30 June 2015 (EDT)
#Also, nothing like a codec happening with ''Falcon... Punch!!'' in it again. Seriously. [[File:PikachuMS.png|20px]][[User:ThePikaPlayer|<span style="color: yellow;">'''Pika,'''</span>]] [[User:ThePikaPlayer|<span style="color: brown;">'''Wild Turkey appeared!'''</span>]] [[User talk:ThePikaPlayer|''<span style="color: cyan;">Talkz</span>'']] 12:57, 4 November 2015 (EST)

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== [[Codec Conversations]] vs. [[Palutena's Guidance]] ==

Snarky and at times fourth-wall breaking commentaries about the cast. --[[User:Menshay|Menshay]] ([[User talk:Menshay|talk]]) 11:02, 30 June 2015 (EDT)
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#It's about time someone suggested this. [[:User:ZeldaStarfoxfan2164|ZeldaStarfoxfan2164]] ([[User talk:ZeldaStarfoxfan2164|talk]]) is made in America  11:05, 30 June 2015 (EDT)
#[[File:Aidanzapunksignature.png|20px]][[User:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''Aidan'''</span>]], [[User talk:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''Master of Speed and Aura'''</span>]][[File:AidanzapunkSignaturesmall.PNG]] 13:36, 30 June 2015 (EDT)
#Oh yeah, we gotta do this. [[User:LittleMacmain97|LittleMacmain97]], the [[Roy|Binding Blade]] is mine! ([[User talk:LittleMacmain97|Talk]]) 12:52, 1 July 2015 (EDT)
#Can't miss this one. [[User:Dots|<font color="red">'''D'''</font><font color="green">'''o'''</font><font color="blue">'''t'''</font><font color="purple">'''s'''</font>]] ([[User talk:Dots|talk]]) [[File:Mega Man X SNES sprite.png|19px]] The Silver 14:45, 1 July 2015 (EDT)
#[[User:ZatannaCobblepot|ZatannaCobblepot]] ([[User talk:ZatannaCobblepot|talk]]) 05:18, 4 July 2015 (EDT)
#Why wasn't this suggested when Wii U came out? [[Special:Contributions/75.141.44.151|75.141.44.151]] 09:59, 6 July 2015 (EDT)

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#'''''But Colonel, he's just an angel. Nothing worth mentioning there, eh? Colonel? Colonel? COLONEL!!!!!!!!''''' [[File:PikachuMS.png|20px]][[User:ThePikaPlayer|<span style="color: yellow;">'''Pika,'''</span>]] [[User:ThePikaPlayer|<span style="color: brown;">'''Wild Turkey appeared!'''</span>]] [[User talk:ThePikaPlayer|''<span style="color: cyan;">Talkz</span>'']] 12:59, 4 November 2015 (EST)

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==[[Roy]] vs. [[Roy Koopa]]==

Two fighters with the same name. Which Roy will reign supreme? [[File:Aidanzapunksignature.png|20px]][[User:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''Aidan'''</span>]], [[User talk:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''Master of Speed and Aura'''</span>]][[File:AidanzapunkSignaturesmall.PNG]] 13:43, 30 June 2015 (EDT)

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#Nice. [[User:LittleMacmain97|LittleMacmain97, a new kind of noob.]] ([[User talk:LittleMacmain97|talk]]) 14:34, 30 June 2015 (EDT)
#How could we not, Smash 4's double Roy is borderline meme status. [[User:ToastUltimatum|<font color="ff8c00">'''Toast'''</font>]] [[File:Wii U Logo Transparent.png|17px]][[User talk:ToastUltimatum|<font color="01a3c4">'''ltimatum'''</font>]] 20:40, 30 June 2015 (EDT)
#There's already arguments on which Roy is better, so this should be an interesting match. [[:User:ZeldaStarfoxfan2164|ZeldaStarfoxfan2164]] ([[User talk:ZeldaStarfoxfan2164|talk]]) is made in America  13:26, 1 July 2015 (EDT)
#All-Roy rumble [[User:ZatannaCobblepot|ZatannaCobblepot]] ([[User talk:ZatannaCobblepot|talk]]) 05:18, 4 July 2015 (EDT)
#How could we possibly not do this? I for one want to know which Roy reigns supreme! [[Special:Contributions/76.5.56.188|76.5.56.188]] 19:31, 27 September 2015 (EDT)
#^ is my opinion. [[User:Ganonmew|<span style="color: green;">'''Ganonmew'''</span>]], [[User talk:Ganonmew|<span style="color: green;">'''The Evil Clone'''</span>]] 19:08, 27 September 2015 (EDT)
#The Smash rivalry that has been made into a classic. Of all the suggestions here, this one is the best. Prediction: Roy will win. XD <b>[[User:john3637881|<span style="color: black;">John</span>]]</b> [[File:John3637881 Signature.png|20px]] <b>[[User talk:John3637881|<span style="color: red;">PK SMAAAASH!!</span>]]</b> 13:33, 4 November 2015 (EST)

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#Aside from name, they have too little in common to warrant a SA matchup. [[User:Berrenta|Berrenta]] ([[User talk:Berrenta|talk]]) 15:11, 30 June 2015 (EDT)
#Per Berrenta but lol about having two characters in a game with the same name. [[User:Dots|<font color="red">'''D'''</font><font color="green">'''o'''</font><font color="blue">'''t'''</font><font color="purple">'''s'''</font>]] ([[User talk:Dots|talk]]) [[File:Mega Man X SNES sprite.png|19px]] The Silver 14:45, 1 July 2015 (EDT)
#I don't want to hear '''''ROY'S OUR BOY!''''', so count me out. [[File:PikachuMS.png|20px]][[User:ThePikaPlayer|<span style="color: yellow;">'''Pika,'''</span>]] [[User:ThePikaPlayer|<span style="color: brown;">'''Wild Turkey appeared!'''</span>]] [[User talk:ThePikaPlayer|''<span style="color: cyan;">Talkz</span>'']] 13:03, 4 November 2015 (EST)

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==[[Ice Climbers]] vs. [[Duck Hunt Duo]]==

Retro fighters made up of more than one person. [[Special:Contributions/73.159.254.38|73.159.254.38]] 14:11, 1 July 2015 (EDT)

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#Very good. It's suggestions like this that keep me looking at this page. [[User:LittleMacmain97|LittleMacmain97]], the [[Little Mac|World Circuit]] is mine! ([[User talk:LittleMacmain97|Talk]]) 14:35, 1 July 2015 (EDT)
#[[User:ZatannaCobblepot|ZatannaCobblepot]] ([[User talk:ZatannaCobblepot|talk]]) 05:18, 4 July 2015 (EDT)
#Very very good, especially since most people want to kill the dog somehow. '''''Fresh steak and duck! Right on the barbecue! Hurry, it's getting hot!''''' ''Crowd gathers.'' [[File:PikachuMS.png|20px]][[User:ThePikaPlayer|<span style="color: yellow;">'''Pika,'''</span>]] [[User:ThePikaPlayer|<span style="color: brown;">'''Wild Turkey appeared!'''</span>]] [[User talk:ThePikaPlayer|''<span style="color: cyan;">Talkz</span>'']] 13:02, 4 November 2015 (EST)

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#This is more of an opposition to Duck Hunt's European name since there are THREE of the,. Not a duo, so it's an uneven matchup. [[Special:Contributions/75.141.44.151|75.141.44.151]] 09:52, 6 July 2015 (EDT)

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==[[Mega Charizard X]] vs. [[Mega Lucario]]==

Two Mega Evolutionary Final Smashes, each involving character transformations with their own movesets. Who wins in the mega game. [[:User:ZeldaStarfoxfan2164|ZeldaStarfoxfan2164]] ([[User talk:ZeldaStarfoxfan2164|talk]]) is a never lover boy  16:08, 9 August 2015 (EDT)

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I've been a fan of Pokemon since I got Pokemon White 2. Great choice. [[File:PikachuMS.png|20px]][[User:ThePikaPlayer|<span style="color: yellow;">'''Pika,'''</span>]] [[User:ThePikaPlayer|<span style="color: brown;">'''Wild Turkey appeared!'''</span>]] [[User talk:ThePikaPlayer|''<span style="color: cyan;">Talkz</span>'']] 12:47, 4 November 2015 (EST)

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BTW, why not add [[SSB4|Mewtwo]]'s [[Psystrike|final smash]] since he turns into Mega Mewtwo? [[File:PikachuMS.png|20px]][[User:ThePikaPlayer|<span style="color: yellow;">'''Pika,'''</span>]] [[User:ThePikaPlayer|<span style="color: brown;">'''Wild Turkey appeared!'''</span>]] [[User talk:ThePikaPlayer|''<span style="color: cyan;">Talkz</span>'']] 12:52, 4 November 2015 (EST)
:Because these two involve transformation characters who still act as fighters. Psystrike only traps opponents. [[:User:ZeldaStarfoxfan2164|ZeldaStarfoxfan2164]] ([[User talk:ZeldaStarfoxfan2164|talk]]) is made in America  16:26, 4 November 2015 (EST)
::Mega Lucario and Mega Charizard X are no more similar than Mega Lucario and Psystrike, imo. <small>---Preceding unsigned comment added by [[Special:MyPage|<font color="brown">a turkey</font>]]! Or maybe [[User:DatNuttyKid|DatNuttyKid]].</small>  16:30, 4 November 2015 (EST)

==[[Captain Falcon]] vs. [[Snake]] vs. [[Ike]] vs. [[Ryu]]==

The manliest of men [[wikipedia:Duke Nukem|duke]] it out in this four person man fight. Who will reign the supreme man of all men? [[File:Aidanzapunksignature.png|20px]][[User:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''Aidan'''</span>]], [[User talk:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''Master of Speed and Aura'''</span>]][[File:AidanzapunkSignaturesmall.PNG]] 09:28, 25 August 2015 (EDT)

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I'd love to see which does better against eac---'''FALCON.... PUNCHHHHH!!!!!!''' Uh, dude? I was still talking? '''Yes!''' ''Note'' bold means Falcon. [[File:PikachuMS.png|20px]][[User:ThePikaPlayer|<span style="color: yellow;">'''Pika,'''</span>]] [[User:ThePikaPlayer|<span style="color: brown;">'''Wild Turkey appeared!'''</span>]] [[User talk:ThePikaPlayer|''<span style="color: cyan;">Talkz</span>'']] 12:55, 4 November 2015 (EST)

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Normally, I would feel that a fight should have up to three characters, but I think the community needs to tolerate a 4-way match. [[:User:ZeldaStarfoxfan2164|ZeldaStarfoxfan2164]] ([[User talk:ZeldaStarfoxfan2164|talk]]) is a never lover boy  18:39, 25 August 2015 (EDT)

==[[Ice Climbers]] vs. [[Olimar]] vs. [[Rosalina|Rosalina & Luma]]==
All three characters come with allies to assist them. Sadly at the cost of this, their partner(s) are also killable as well. Which team will reign supreme? [[User:Dots|<font color="red">'''D'''</font><font color="green">'''o'''</font><font color="blue">'''t'''</font><font color="purple">'''s'''</font>]] ([[User talk:Dots|talk]]) [[File:Mega Man X SNES sprite.png|19px]] The Starman 16:13, 25 August 2015 (EDT)

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[[Duck Hunt|*ahem*]] [[File:Aidanzapunksignature.png|20px]][[User:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''Aidan'''</span>]], [[User talk:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''Master of Speed and Aura'''</span>]][[File:AidanzapunkSignaturesmall.PNG]] 17:31, 25 August 2015 (EDT)
:Ok fine, I'll reword the description, but I'm not doing a four-way match. [[User:Dots|<font color="red">'''D'''</font><font color="green">'''o'''</font><font color="blue">'''t'''</font><font color="purple">'''s'''</font>]] ([[User talk:Dots|talk]]) [[File:Mega Man X SNES sprite.png|19px]] The Chespin 18:06, 25 August 2015 (EDT)
For starters, I'd feel that it should be between Olimar and Rosalina, or between Pikmin and Luma since they act as servants rather than another character following the lead. [[:User:ZeldaStarfoxfan2164|ZeldaStarfoxfan2164]] ([[User talk:ZeldaStarfoxfan2164|talk]]) is a never lover boy  18:39, 25 August 2015 (EDT)


==[[Luigi]] vs [[Captain Falcon]] vs [[Ness]] vs [[Jigglypuff]]==
When you first boot up your brand-new copy of Smash for the Nintendo 64, there are 4 fighters you can't select until you meet certain criteria. These are the 4. And just like in a Smash match, only one can win. [[Special:Contributions/76.5.56.188|76.5.56.188]] 19:30, 27 September 2015 (EDT)

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A four-way match? I think those are usually frowned upon here. [[Special:Contributions/75.141.57.33|75.141.57.33]] 16:17, 4 November 2015 (EST)

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==[[SSB4|Charizard]] vs [[SSB4|Bowser]] vs [[SSB4|Bowser Jr.]]==
These fire-breathers are different. One flies, one stays on the ground, one uses a car. But which is better? [[File:PikachuMS.png|20px]][[User:ThePikaPlayer|<span style="color: yellow;">'''Pika,'''</span>]] [[User:ThePikaPlayer|<span style="color: brown;">'''Wild Turkey appeared!'''</span>]] [[User talk:ThePikaPlayer|''<span style="color: cyan;">Talkz</span>'']] 12:46, 4 November 2015 (EST)

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#...Why? <small>---Preceding unsigned comment added by [[Special:MyPage|<font color="brown">a turkey</font>]]! Or maybe [[User:DatNuttyKid|DatNuttyKid]].</small>  14:18, 4 November 2015 (EST)

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