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|<span style="font-size:125%">'''NOTE:'''</span> '''Suggestions are ''closed'''''.<br>You may continue to vote on open suggestions, but no new ones are allowed. | |<span style="font-size:125%">'''NOTE:'''</span> '''Suggestions are ''closed'''''.<br>You may continue to vote on open suggestions, but no new ones are allowed. | ||
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This forum has the purpose of helping to select what battles will eventually take place in the [[Forum:Smash Arena|Smash Arena]]. If you would like to make a suggestion, please feel free to leave it here. '''''New suggestions are placed at the bottom of the page'''''. Be sure to state your reason you suggested it and put the support, reject, and comments sections underneath it. | This forum has the purpose of helping to select what battles will eventually take place in the [[Forum:Smash Arena|Smash Arena]]. If you would like to make a suggestion, please feel free to leave it here. '''''New suggestions are placed at the bottom of the page'''''. Be sure to state your reason you suggested it and put the support, reject, and comments sections underneath it. | ||
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===Posting suggestions=== | ===Posting suggestions=== | ||
*Only Smash Bros.-related fights are permitted. Fights don't have to be between playable characters, but the combatants must have appeared in at least one Smash Bros. game. | *Only Smash Bros.-related fights are permitted. Fights don't have to be between playable characters, but the combatants must have appeared in at least one Smash Bros. game. | ||
*If there are already 10 open suggestions, you should probably reconsider adding a new one. If there are 15, it is highly recommended you do not. There is no limit to the number of open suggestions, but having too many clutters the page and makes it more difficult to keep track of. | *If there are already 10 open suggestions, you should probably reconsider adding a new one. If there are 15, it is highly recommended you do not. There is no limit to the number of open suggestions, but having too many clutters the page and makes it more difficult to keep track of. | ||
*[[SmashWiki:Smash Arena#History|Check this list]] to view the fights that have been done. Repeat fights are permitted if they occurred '''100 or more rounds ago'''. As matchups over 100 rounds ago are moved off that particular list, the list is the definitive source on what can't be repeated. Note that repeats close to this cutoff may still be valid if the queue is full enough that the fight's acceptance will allow it to be outside the 100-round zone. | *[[SmashWiki:Smash Arena#History|Check this list]] to view the fights that have been done. Repeat fights are permitted if they occurred '''100 or more rounds ago'''. As matchups over 100 rounds ago are moved off that particular list, the list is the definitive source on what can't be repeated. Note that repeats close to this cutoff may still be valid if the queue is full enough that the fight's acceptance will allow it to be outside the 100-round zone. | ||
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*Place new suggestions at '''the bottom''' of the page. | *Place new suggestions at '''the bottom''' of the page. | ||
*You can retract and remove your own suggestion, but it still counts as your suggestion for that week. | *You can retract and remove your own suggestion, but it still counts as your suggestion for that week. | ||
*Similarly to the above, you cannot edit a suggestion once people have started to vote on it. Editing the description is fine; just don't replace, add, or remove combatants. | |||
*Similarly to the above, you cannot edit a suggestion once people have started to vote on it. Editing the description is fine | |||
===Voting and comments=== | ===Voting and comments=== | ||
*Don't vote | *Don't vote for your own suggestion. | ||
*Post '''why''' you support/oppose. Don't just say, "Oh, this is a cool idea". Explain why you like/don't like the fight. This is not required but adds credence to your opinion - remember, suggestions are not accepted or rejected based on a simple vote count. | *Post '''why''' you support/oppose. Don't just say, "Oh, this is a cool idea". Explain why you like/don't like the fight. This is not required but adds credence to your opinion - remember, suggestions are not accepted or rejected based on a simple vote count. | ||
*The comments section is to be used for relevant comments only. | *The comments section is to be used for relevant comments only. | ||
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*Protagonist vs. antagonist matches (e.g. Mario vs. Bowser) are valid, and many of them succeed in the arena, but are usually pushed aside by the community in favour of matchups that are less "obvious". Matchups born from in-game events (e.g. Subspace Emissary groupings) or matchups that are big in their home universes but not necessarily in Smash Bros. (e.g. legendary Pokémon fights) tend to fall into this as well. | *Protagonist vs. antagonist matches (e.g. Mario vs. Bowser) are valid, and many of them succeed in the arena, but are usually pushed aside by the community in favour of matchups that are less "obvious". Matchups born from in-game events (e.g. Subspace Emissary groupings) or matchups that are big in their home universes but not necessarily in Smash Bros. (e.g. legendary Pokémon fights) tend to fall into this as well. | ||
*While rematches are valid once 100 rounds have passed, do not expect much enthusiasm for them unless the original match was very close or a tie. | *While rematches are valid once 100 rounds have passed, do not expect much enthusiasm for them unless the original match was very close or a tie. | ||
*Regular matches (one-on-one) are favoured far more than three-way fights. If you have an idea for a three-way fight, see if one of the three combatants is really necessary, and try to get it down to two. Fights of more than three participants have to be sock-knocking | *Regular matches (one-on-one) are favoured far more than three-way fights. If you have an idea for a three-way fight, see if one of the three combatants is really necessary, and try to get it down to two. Fights of more than three participants have to be sock-knocking exceptional in order to be even considered - note that the only matchup so far with more than three participants was a special case - so unless you're convinced it will be very popular, turn your efforts to something else. | ||
*The description can sway peoples' opinions of a matchup. While the most interesting suggestions can be accepted on their own merits, those in the middle can be made or broken by how you present them. | *The description can sway peoples' opinions of a matchup. While the most interesting suggestions can be accepted on their own merits, those in the middle can be made or broken by how you present them. | ||
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When the queue becomes full (all the grey spots are filled up), suggestions will be suspended. You may continue to vote on current suggestions, but no more may be proposed. Once the queue drains out to a size of one, suggestions will be re-opened. | When the queue becomes full (all the grey spots are filled up), suggestions will be suspended. You may continue to vote on current suggestions, but no more may be proposed. Once the queue drains out to a size of one, suggestions will be re-opened. | ||
The queue is not set in stone; new suggestions may appear before older ones and it may change at any time. The queue | The queue is not set in stone; new suggestions may appear before older ones and it may change at any time. The queue is designed to attempt to balance out fights so that participants or universes aren't used too much in a short time. | ||
The contents of the queue are a secret to maintain mystery and intrigue. | The contents of the queue are a secret to maintain mystery and intrigue. | ||
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To make a suggestion the easy way, copy the following code, paste it into the bottom of the editing window, and fill out the relevant parts: | To make a suggestion the easy way, copy the following code, paste it into the bottom of the editing window, and fill out the relevant parts: | ||
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===Comments=== | ===Comments=== | ||
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== [[Roy]] vs. [[Ike]] == | |||
The Fire Emblem characters are at it again after a tie! Who will finally win? <font face="Arial">[[User:ShupaRoeh|<font color="red">Shu</font><font color="green">pa]][[User Talk:ShupaRoeh|</font><font color="blue">Roeh</font></font>]][[File:TypicalGuy.png|19px]] 12:50, 17 June 2012 (EDT) | |||
===Support=== | ===Support=== | ||
It would be | #Toast this is an interesting matchup. It would be a good idea to reintroduce it to the new users (like me and you). I'm pretty sure you did not vote for these matches even though you are rejecting them. [[User:LightningBlue|<font style="color:orange;font-family:lucida sans">'''LightningBlue:</font>]] [[User talk:LightningBlue|<font style="color:red;font-family:lucida sans">''Summer with Melee and Brawl''</font>]] 21:49, 18 June 2012 (EDT) | ||
#Yes! It'll be fun to see if the Melee original beats the Brawl replacement this time around. [[User:Toadat9021doh|Toadat9021doh]] ([[User talk:Toadat9021doh|talk]]) 16:58, 19 June 2012 (EDT) | |||
#I'd like to see how this goes.--[[User:Bandit|'''''<font color="#ff8000">Bandit</font>''''']] 13:43, 21 June 2012 (EDT) | |||
#It is a nice idea. I should've thought of this.[[Special:Contributions/174.69.215.145|174.69.215.145]] 21:57, 22 June 2012 (EDT) | |||
#Would like to rematch ties. [[User:Dots|Dots]] [[User talk:Dots|You can call me]] [[Special:Contributions/Dots|Pollyanna]] [[File:NintenNESsprite.png|19px]] 20:46, 27 June 2012 (EDT) | |||
#Perhaps the people's opinions have changed. [[Special:Contributions/204.191.140.116|204.191.140.116]] 00:22, 30 June 2012 (EDT) | |||
#I'm sure many people weren't around for the original matchup, and it's a very interesting (and slightly controversial) one so I'd like to see it happen. [[User:Naked Snake|<font color="darkgreen" size="2px">'''Naked'''</font>]] [[User talk:Naked Snake|<font color="darkgreen" size="2px">'''Snake'''</font>]] [[File:200px-Naked Snake.jpg |19px|]] 23:58, 5 July 2012 (EDT) | |||
===Oppose=== | ===Oppose=== | ||
#Rematch. Bleh. [[User:ToastUltimatum|<font color="ff8c00">'''Toast'''</font>]] [[File:Wii U Logo Transparent.png|17px|link=Special:Contributions/ToastUltimatum]][[User talk:ToastUltimatum|<font color="01a3c4">'''ltimatum'''</font>]][[File:Transparent Swadloon.png|26px]] 15:11, 17 June 2012 (EDT) | |||
===Comments=== | ===Comments=== | ||
==[[ | ==[[Fire]] vs. [[Spring Jump]]== | ||
These Up-Specials quickly bounces you up from the ground (or the air). You can still attack after the move since it doesn't put you in a completely helpless state. Which will you vote up? [[User:F1reBurn1ng|F1reBurn1ng]] ([[User talk:F1reBurn1ng|talk]]) 12:53, 17 June 2012 (EDT) | |||
===Support=== | ===Support=== | ||
#Actually, they're the only two up specials that involve using an item to bounce up (Sonic bounces on a spring, Game & Watch bounces up on a trampoline). I think this works. [[User:Dragonmience|Dragonmience]] ([[User talk:Dragonmience|talk]]) 01:18, 24 June 2012 (EDT) | |||
#Per Dragon. [[User:Toadat9021doh|Toadat9021doh]] ([[User talk:Toadat9021doh|talk]]) 19:40, 28 June 2012 (EDT) | |||
===Oppose=== | ===Oppose=== | ||
#This doesn't fit. Why? The only common thing is that you aren't helpless after using it. Other attacks have this trait. Try again. <font face="Arial">[[User:ShupaRoeh|<font color="red">Shu</font><font color="green">pa]][[User Talk:ShupaRoeh|</font><font color="blue">Roeh</font></font>]][[File:TypicalGuy.png|19px]] 13:42, 17 June 2012 (EDT) | |||
#It is not an interesting matchup. They are not very popular moves in themselves as as Roeh said the only similarity is the omitting of the helpless state, which in itself is not interesting. [[User:LightningBlue|<font style="color:orange;font-family:lucida sans">'''LightningBlue:</font>]] [[User talk:LightningBlue|<font style="color:red;font-family:lucida sans">''Summer with Melee and Brawl''</font>]] 21:45, 18 June 2012 (EDT) | |||
#It sucks--[[User:Bandit|'''''<font color="#ff8000">Bandit</font>''''']] 13:43, 21 June 2012 (EDT) | |||
#Too different. '''<span style="font-family:AR DESTINE">[[User:Air Conditioner|<span style="color:skyblue">Air</span>]][[User talk:Air Conditioner|<span style="color:Turquoise">Conditioner</span>]]</span>''' [[File:Accoolx.png|19px]] 12:12, 23 June 2012 (EDT) | |||
#Per above. [[User:Dots|Dots]] [[User talk:Dots|You can call me]] [[Special:Contributions/Dots|Pollyanna]] [[File:NintenNESsprite.png|19px]] 20:46, 27 June 2012 (EDT) | |||
#Not very common items, and I don't see too much similarity. Sorry. [[User:Naked Snake|<font color="darkgreen" size="2px">'''Naked'''</font>]] [[User talk:Naked Snake|<font color="darkgreen" size="2px">'''Snake'''</font>]] [[File:200px-Naked Snake.jpg |19px|]] 00:06, 6 July 2012 (EDT) | |||
===Comments=== | ===Comments=== | ||
==[[ | ==[[Ganondorf]] vs. [[Crazy Hand]]== | ||
The powerfull hands collide! One hand is embedded with the Triforce of Power and at the other hand, Crazy Hand is pure destruction. | |||
So the question is? Which left hand has the right hand?[[Special:Contributions/86.82.234.185|86.82.234.185]] 11:38, 22 June 2012 (EDT) | |||
===Support=== | ===Support=== | ||
#This battle is worthy of happening. <font face="Arial">[[User:ShupaRoeh|<font color="red">Shu</font><font color="green">pa]][[User Talk:ShupaRoeh|</font><font color="blue">Roeh</font></font>]][[File:TypicalGuy.png|19px]] 11:42, 22 June 2012 (EDT) | |||
#I see the connections between the two. They both wield the power of darkness in their attacks, and also have significance in their hands (i.e. The Triforce, being a hand in itself) Both are bosses in their games, and Crazy Hand is sometimes considered the greater evil than Master Hand, just as Ganondorf was the greater evil than Bowser in SSE. Not overwhelmingly similar, but the connections are there. [[User:ToastUltimatum|<font color="ff8c00">'''Toast'''</font>]] [[File:Wii U Logo Transparent.png|17px|link=Special:Contributions/ToastUltimatum]][[User talk:ToastUltimatum|<font color="01a3c4">'''ltimatum'''</font>]][[File:Transparent Swadloon.png|26px]] 18:36, 27 June 2012 (EDT) | |||
===Oppose=== | ===Oppose=== | ||
#Too different to justify a fight--[[User:Bandit|'''''<font color="#ff0000">Bandit</font>''''']] 11:22, 23 June 2012 (EDT) | |||
#Per Bandit. '''<span style="font-family:AR DESTINE">[[User:Air Conditioner|<span style="color:skyblue">Air</span>]][[User talk:Air Conditioner|<span style="color:Turquoise">Conditioner</span>]]</span>''' [[File:Accoolx.png|19px]] 12:12, 23 June 2012 (EDT) | |||
#The Cheese says: Yeah, what they said. [[User:The Cheese|<font color="FFD700">'''''The'''''</font>]] [[User talk:The Cheese|<font color="FFD700">'''''Cheese'''''</font>]] [[File:The Cheese.png|19px]] 12:38, 26 June 2012 (EDT) | |||
#I can see where you are coming from, but trying to piece together the connection is giving me a headache.[[User:ScoreCounter|ScoreCounter]] ([[User talk:ScoreCounter|talk]]) 17:13, 27 June 2012 (EDT) | |||
#I get the point but not everybody will though. [[User:Dots|Dots]] [[User talk:Dots|You can call me]] [[Special:Contributions/Dots|Pollyanna]] [[File:NintenNESsprite.png|19px]] 20:46, 27 June 2012 (EDT) | |||
# But Ganon isn't "crazy". [[User:LightningBlue|<font style="color:orange;font-family:lucida sans">'''LightningBlue:</font>]] [[User talk:LightningBlue|<font style="color:red;font-family:lucida sans">''Summer with Melee and Brawl''</font>]] 00:21, 30 June 2012 (EDT) | |||
#I can see the connection, but on a more general basis they're not too similar. As such, I feel slightly inclined to oppose. [[User:Naked Snake|<font color="darkgreen" size="2px">'''Naked'''</font>]] [[User talk:Naked Snake|<font color="darkgreen" size="2px">'''Snake'''</font>]] [[File:200px-Naked Snake.jpg |19px|]] 00:08, 6 July 2012 (EDT) | |||
===Comments=== | ===Comments=== | ||
It was just a fight of men that use their evil powers in their hand. Ganondorf uses the Triforce of Power, which is 'stored' in the left hand. As Crazy hand is a left hand, the battle was born. They are also the only who use the Darkness effect in Brawl, aside from White Pikmin. The Darkness effect is by both characters emitted from their hands.[[Special:Contributions/86.82.234.185|86.82.234.185]] 06:18, 28 June 2012 (EDT) | |||
