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|<span style="font-size:125%">'''NOTE:'''</span> '''Suggestions are ''closed'''''.<br>You may continue to vote on open suggestions, but no new ones are allowed.
|<span style="font-size:125%">'''NOTE:'''</span> '''Suggestions are ''closed'''''.<br>You may continue to vote on open suggestions, but no new ones are allowed.
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This forum has the purpose of helping to select what battles will eventually take place in the [[Forum:Smash Arena|Smash Arena]]. If you would like to make a suggestion, please feel free to leave it here. '''''New suggestions are placed at the bottom of the page'''''. Be sure to state your reason you suggested it and put the support, reject, and comments sections underneath it.
This forum has the purpose of helping to select what battles will eventually take place in the [[Forum:Smash Arena|Smash Arena]]. If you would like to make a suggestion, please feel free to leave it here. '''''New suggestions are placed at the bottom of the page'''''. Be sure to state your reason you suggested it and put the support, reject, and comments sections underneath it.
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=Rules=
=Rules=
===Posting suggestions===
*The SA operator(s) has final say over all the fights. Suggestions and comments are merely a way for the community to influence the fights.
*Only Smash Bros.-related fights are permitted. Fights don't have to be between playable characters, but the combatants must have appeared in at least one Smash Bros. game.
**Outside very specific circumstances, no fights are allowed between combatants that only appear in a game (or a batch of downloadable content) that has yet to be released.
*If there are already 10 open suggestions, you should probably reconsider adding a new one. If there are 15, it is highly recommended you do not. There is no limit to the number of open suggestions, but having too many clutters the page and makes it more difficult to keep track of.
*[[SmashWiki:Smash Arena#History|Check this list]] to view the fights that have been done. Repeat fights are permitted if they occurred '''100 or more rounds ago'''. As matchups over 100 rounds ago are moved off that particular list, the list is the definitive source on what can't be repeated. Note that repeats close to this cutoff may still be valid if the queue is full enough that the fight's acceptance will allow it to be outside the 100-round zone.
*Do not post more than one suggestion at a time. Each user may post '''one suggestion per week''' (i.e. one every seven days).
*'''Sign your suggestions/votes/comments with <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> and a # in front of it''' (you don't necessarily have to put # in the comments sections, but you do have to sign with <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>).
*'''Sign your suggestions/votes/comments with <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> and a # in front of it''' (you don't necessarily have to put # in the comments sections, but you do have to sign with <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>).
*Place new suggestions at '''the bottom''' of the page.
*Don't vote for your own suggestion. You automatically vote for it if you suggest it.
*You can retract and remove your own suggestion, but it still counts as your suggestion for that week.
*Do not post more than one suggestion at a time. Each user may post one suggestion per week.
**If your suggestion is removed because it's invalid or because your week isn't up, it doesn't count as your suggestion for that week. That said, users who constantly post invalid or rapid-fire suggestions may be suspended from suggesting for a few weeks, and may risk [[SW:PROB|probation]].
*Post '''why''' you support/oppose. Don't just say, "Oh, this is a cool idea". Explain why you like/don't like the fight.  
*Similarly to the above, you cannot edit a suggestion once people have started to vote on it. Editing the description is fine, just don't alter the combatants.
*You can remove your own suggestion, but it still counts as your suggestion for that week.
 
*Similarly to the above, you cannot edit a suggestion once people have started to vote on it. Editing the description is fine; just don't replace, add, or remove combatants.
===Voting and comments===
*Place new suggestions at '''the bottom''' of the page. If you place them at the top, they may be lost.
*Don't vote on your own suggestion.
*Post '''why''' you support/oppose. Don't just say, "Oh, this is a cool idea". Explain why you like/don't like the fight. This is not required but adds credence to your opinion - remember, suggestions are not accepted or rejected based on a simple vote count.
*The comments section is to be used for relevant comments only.
*Do not use this page to argue with other users over their reasons and opinions. You can civilly point out an inconsistency or mistake in their description, but if you say things like, "That's stupid", that could potentially start an argument in the comments, you are breaching this rule.
*Do not use this page to argue with other users over their reasons and opinions. You can civilly point out an inconsistency or mistake in their description, but if you say things like, "That's stupid", that could potentially start an argument in the comments, you are breaching this rule.
*'''Do not make this page into the Smash Arena itself.''' This is for deciding what goes there, not voting on the winner.
*The comments section is to be used for '''relevant''' comments.
 
*[[SmashWiki:Smash Arena#History|Check this list]] to view the fights that have been done. Repeat fights are permitted if they occurred '''100 or more rounds ago'''.
===Acceptance or rejection===
*Suggestions are purged every time a new Smash Arena round is posted. It is at this time they are either accepted and placed into the queue, or they are rejected. Not all suggestions are purged at once.
*'''The SA operator(s) has final say over all the fights.''' Suggestions and comments are merely a way for the community to influence the fights, and can be used, edited, or ignored at the operator(s)'s discretion.
*In the vein of the above, do not repost a suggestion of yours that has been removed, since it's either already lined up or been rejected. Reposting it after time has passed is generally a bad idea, since if it's already in the queue it's a waste of time, and if it was rejected the first time chances are it will remain that way. See the Queue section for an idea of how long it may take for your suggestion to show up.
*Only Smash Bros.-related fights are permitted. Fights don't have to be between playable characters, but the combatants must have appeared in at least one Smash Bros. game.
*Acceptance of fights is not based simply on votes. The votes are used to judge the community's opinion of the matchup; again it is solely the operator(s)'s decision on what the bouts are.
*Acceptance of fights is not based simply on votes. The votes are used to judge the community's opinion of the matchup; again it is solely the operator(s)'s decision on what the bouts are.
*Suggestions are purged every time a new Smash Arena round is posted. It is at this time they are either accepted and placed into the queue, or they are rejected. Not all suggestions are purged at once - only those that are both older than the rest and have higher vote counts. Usually suggestions need at least 5 votes to be decided upon, unless they are very old.
*If there are already 10 open suggestions, you should probably reconsider adding a new one. If there are 15, it is highly recommended you do not. There is no limit to the number of open suggestions, but having too many clutters the page and makes it more difficult to keep track of.
**In the vein of the above, do not repost a suggestion of yours that has been removed recently, since it's either already lined up or been rejected. See the Queue section for an idea of how long it may take for your suggestion to show up.
*And finally, '''do not make this page into the Smash Arena itself.''' This is for deciding what goes there, not voting on which would win.
*If a suggestion of yours has been rejected in the past, you may repost it three months (90 days) after its rejection. However, it is unlikely for a rejected suggestion to be accepted in the future, so it is likely more productive to suggest something else.
*Descriptions are not guaranteed to be included as-is should a suggestion pass.
 
=Tips=
*In most cases, the combatants of a match should share similarities but have key differences. However, matchups between total opposites are also interesting. Avoid the middle ground where combatants have little in common but are also not polar opposites.
*Protagonist vs. antagonist matches (e.g. Mario vs. Bowser) are valid, and many of them succeed in the arena, but are usually pushed aside by the community in favour of matchups that are less "obvious". Matchups born from in-game events (e.g. Subspace Emissary groupings) or matchups that are big in their home universes but not necessarily in Smash Bros. (e.g. legendary Pokémon fights) tend to fall into this as well.
*While rematches are valid once 100 rounds have passed, do not expect much enthusiasm for them unless the original match was very close or a tie.
*Regular matches (one-on-one) are favoured far more than three-way fights. If you have an idea for a three-way fight, see if one of the three combatants is really necessary, and try to get it down to two. Fights of more than three participants have to be sock-knocking genius in order to be even considered, so unless you're convinced it will be very popular, turn your efforts to something else.
*The description can sway peoples' opinions of a matchup. While the most interesting suggestions can be accepted on their own merits, those in the middle can be made or broken by how you present them.


=Queue=
=Queue=
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When the queue becomes full (all the grey spots are filled up), suggestions will be suspended. You may continue to vote on current suggestions, but no more may be proposed. Once the queue drains out to a size of one, suggestions will be re-opened.
When the queue becomes full (all the grey spots are filled up), suggestions will be suspended. You may continue to vote on current suggestions, but no more may be proposed. Once the queue drains out to a size of one, suggestions will be re-opened.


The queue is not set in stone; new suggestions may appear before older ones and it may change at any time. The queue attempts to balance out fights so that specific participants or universes aren't used too much in a short time.
The queue is not set in stone; new suggestions may appear before older ones and it may change at any time. The queue is designed to attempt to balance out fights so that participants or universes aren't used too much in a short time.


The contents of the queue are a secret to maintain mystery and intrigue.
The contents of the queue are a secret to maintain mystery and intrigue.
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=Show Your Support=
=Show Your Support=
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[[Template:SA Box|<code><nowiki>{{SA Box}}</nowiki></code>]] - Smash Arena userbox; originally by [[User:Squallinoa_08|Squallinoa 08]], modified by [[User:Toomai|Toomai]]. If you wish, place it on your user page. It will tell you the new fights as they happen.
[[Template:SA Box|<code><nowiki>{{SA Box}}</nowiki></code>]] - Smash Arena userbox; originally by [[User:Squallinoa_08|Squallinoa 08]], modified by [[User:Toomai|Toomai]]. If you wish, place it on your user page. It will tell you the new fights as they happen.
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===Comments===
===Comments===
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=Suggestions=
=Suggestions=


==[[Rosalina]] vs. [[Bowser Jr.]]==
==[[Event 33: Lethal Marathon|Lethal Marathon]] vs. [[Event 6: Super Bowser Bros.|Super Bowser Bros.]]==


Two of the newest characters from the ''Mario'' universe makes it into ''SSB4''. Both have chargeable projectiles which stop dead upon hit. Who will rule 21st century ''Mario''? [[:User:ZeldaStarfoxfan2164|ZeldaStarfoxfan2164]] ([[User talk:ZeldaStarfoxfan2164|talk]]) is a never lover boy  22:00, 9 December 2017 (EST)
These two struggles to the finish take two characters out of their comfort zones. But which one will make it to the goal? ''[[User:JamesHeart123|<font color="blue">James</font>]]''[[file:Heart.JPG|15px|link=User talk:JamesHeart123]]''[[Special:Contributions/JamesHeart123|<font color="blue">123</font>]]'' 19:04, 31 December 2011 (EST)


===Support===
===Support===
I think it has an interesting idea behind it. It has my vote! [[User:Crazy456Rhino|Crazy456Rhino]] ([[User talk:Crazy456Rhino|talk]]) 15:41, 22 March 2018 (EDT)
#Certainly inventive. [[User:ToastUltimatum|<font color="darkorange">'''Toast'''</font>]] [[File:Wii U Logo Transparent.png|17px|link=Special:Contributions/ToastUltimatum]][[User talk:ToastUltimatum|<font color="seablue">'''ltimatum'''</font>]][[File:Transparent Swadloon.png|26px]] 19:25, 31 December 2011 (EST)
#Per ToastUltimatum.[[User:MeleeMarth01|<font color="seablue">'''MeleeMarth01'''</font>]][[User talk:MeleeMarth01|<font color="red">''Happy New Year!''</font>]] [[File:MarthHeadSSBM.png|19px]] 13:24, 1 January 2012 (EST)
#[[User:.....|.....]] [[User talk:.....|Happy]] [[Special:Contributions/.....|New Year]] [[File:MetaKnightHeadSSBB.png|19px]] 23:00, 1 January 2012 (EST)
#I like it. --- <font face="American Typewriter">''[[User:ReiDemon|Rei]][[User_talk:ReiDemon|Demon]], Author Extraordinaire''</font>, 21:35, 2 January 2012 (EST)
===Oppose===
#While creative, the description leaves out the fact Lethal Marathon is an actual race to the finish, while the latter is just a timed survival battle on a moving stage. It would be better to pair the latter event with [[King of the Mountain]], which is the actual functional equivalent event of Melee, and not Lethal Marathon. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[Image: TyranitarMS.png ]] 08:58, 1 January 2012 (EST)
#Letah Marathon makes you race to the finish against the F-Zero machines while using a custom stage for it. Super Bowser Bros. puts you in a race in a stage that you could have played multiple times, and pits you against Marios. <span style="font-family:Forte">[[User:Megatron1|<span style="color:maroon">Mega</span>]][[User talk:Megatron1|<span style="color:silver">Tron1</span>]][[User:Megatron1/Laughology|<span style="color:blue">XD</span>]]</span>[[File:Decepticon.png|19px|:p]] 10:02, 1 January 2012 (EST)
#<span style="text-shadow:2px 2px 2px black">[[User:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:green">The</span>]] [[User talk:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:red">Solar</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon|<span style="color:blue">Dragon</span>]]</span> 16:12, 1 January 2012 (EST)
#I'm with OT on this one. '''''[[User:Dr. Pain 99|<font color=red>D<font color=#DC0000>o<font color=#A50000>c<font color=#6E0000>t<font color=#370000>o<font color=black>rP</font>a</font>i</font>n</font>9</font>9</font>]]''''' [[Special:Contributions/Dr. Pain 99|<sub>{ROLLBACKER}</sub>]] 23:29, 1 January 2012 (EST)
===Comments===
@Omega Tyrant; Or if the suggestion was to be cross-generational between ''Melee'' and ''Brawl'', then [[Event 17: Super Waterfall Climb|Super Waterfall Climb]] could take Super Bowser Bros.' position. I still like the way it is, however.
:Super Waterfall Climb is still like Super Bowser Bros.; surviving on a moving stage until time runs out, rather than an actual race to the finish. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[Image: TyranitarMS.png ]] 12:55, 1 January 2012 (EST)


Sounds like fun! Let's try it! [[User:Dragonfirebreath25|Dragonfirebreath25]] ([[User talk:Dragonfirebreath25|talk]]) 07:33, 23 March 2018 (EDT)
==[[Great Fox]] vs. [[Halberd|Battleship Halberd]]==
Two of Nintendo's most powerful battleships, that also happen to serve as stages in the ''Smash'' series, shall collide for the second time, after their clash in the Subspace Emissary. Which shall take the dogfight? [[User:ToastUltimatum|<font color="darkorange">'''Toast'''</font>]] [[File:Wii U Logo Transparent.png|17px|link=Special:Contributions/ToastUltimatum]][[User talk:ToastUltimatum|<font color="seablue">'''ltimatum'''</font>]][[File:Transparent Swadloon.png|26px]] 19:25, 31 December 2011 (EST)


I agree with Crazy Rhino. It's interesting. Why not. Blueflame105
===Support===
 
#I'd like to see how this one would play out. ''[[User:JamesHeart123|<font color="blue">James</font>]]''[[file:Heart.JPG|15px|link=User talk:JamesHeart123]]''[[Special:Contributions/JamesHeart123|<font color="blue">123</font>]]'' 20:04, 31 December 2011 (EST)
Kind of an obvious one. [[User:TheNuttyOne|TheNuttyOne]] 14:50, 7 June 2018 (EDT)
#Suprised this hasn't done before. <span style="font-family:Agency FB; font-size:12pt">[[User:BlindColours|<font color="black">'''Blind'''</font>]]</span><span style="font-family: Berlin Sans FB; font-size:12pt">[[User talk:BlindColours|<font color="red">C</font><font color="purple">ol</font>]][[ Special:Contributions/BlindColours|<font color="green">ou</font><font color="seablue">rs</font>]]</span> [[File:Boing.png|50px]] 21:08, 31 December 2011 (EST)
#Two ships, one of which has two stages...Yesh! [[User:MeleeMarth01|<font color="seablue">'''MeleeMarth01'''</font>]][[User talk:MeleeMarth01|<font color="red">''Happy New Year!''</font>]] [[File:MarthHeadSSBM.png|19px]] 13:25, 1 January 2012 (EST)
#<span style="text-shadow:2px 2px 2px black">[[User:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:green">The</span>]] [[User talk:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:red">Solar</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon|<span style="color:blue">Dragon</span>]]</span> 16:12, 1 January 2012 (EST)
#[[User:.....|.....]] [[User talk:.....|Happy]] [[Special:Contributions/.....|New Year]] [[File:MetaKnightHeadSSBB.png|19px]] 23:00, 1 January 2012 (EST)
# '''''[[User:Dr. Pain 99|<font color=red>D<font color=#DC0000>o<font color=#A50000>c<font color=#6E0000>t<font color=#370000>o<font color=black>rP</font>a</font>i</font>n</font>9</font>9</font>]]''''' [[Special:Contributions/Dr. Pain 99|<sub>{ROLLBACKER}</sub>]] 23:29, 1 January 2012 (EST)
#--- <font face="American Typewriter">''[[User:ReiDemon|Rei]][[User_talk:ReiDemon|Demon]], Author Extraordinaire''</font>, 21:35, 2 January 2012 (EST)
# See TU? I told ya this was the best of your ideas for SA. [[User:Drakon64|<font color="forestgreen">'''Drakon'''</font><font color="seablue">'''6'''</font>]][[User talk:Drakon64|<font color="gold">'''4'''</font>]]  [[File:CharizardHeadSSBB.png|19px]] 17:16, 3 January 2012 (EST)
# An interesting idea! I'll support. [[Special:Contributions/86.158.135.66|86.158.135.66]] 04:49, 4 January 2012 (EST)


===Oppose===
===Oppose===


===Comments===
===Comments===
Is this supposed to be the stages? Or the ships themselves? The description makes it seem like a matchup between the ships, but the title says Corneria vs. Halberd and not Great Fox vs. Halberd. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[Image: TyranitarMS.png ]] 08:58, 1 January 2012 (EST)
:Really, it can be either. A vote could be influenced by the ship or the stage. If one were to place a vote on this fight, they could say "Great Fox is Nintendo's best battleship", or they could say "Corneria is my favourite stage in Melee/Brawl". Perhaps in hindsight, Battleship Halberd vs. Great Fox might've been smarter, but I don't think I can change it now that it has been voted on. [[User:ToastUltimatum|<font color="darkorange">'''Toast'''</font>]] [[File:Wii U Logo Transparent.png|17px|link=Special:Contributions/ToastUltimatum]][[User talk:ToastUltimatum|<font color="seablue">'''ltimatum'''</font>]][[File:Transparent Swadloon.png|26px]] 09:26, 1 January 2012 (EST)
::If you want to add clarity, then you might be okay since there're only two votes so far. Bit close though. [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[Image:Toomai.png|20px|link=User:Toomai/Bin|???]] The Metroid 09:46, 1 January 2012 (EST)
:::Done so, I have. [[User:ToastUltimatum|<font color="darkorange">'''Toast'''</font>]] [[File:Wii U Logo Transparent.png|17px|link=Special:Contributions/ToastUltimatum]][[User talk:ToastUltimatum|<font color="seablue">'''ltimatum'''</font>]][[File:Transparent Swadloon.png|26px]] 09:50, 1 January 2012 (EST)


==[[Bowser]] vs. [[Bowser Jr.]]==
== [[Fighting Polygon Team]] vs. [[Fighting Wire Frames]] vs. [[Fighting Alloy Team]] ==
It's the battle of the Koopas! The Koopa King and the Koopa Prince are a royal duo. Who will rule this Koopa brawl between two ''Mario'' universe enemies? [[User:Dragonfirebreath25|Dragonfirebreath25]] ([[User talk:Dragonfirebreath25|talk]]) 07:49, 23 March 2018 (EDT)


The standard teams of minor minions from each of the Smash games. Which is best? --[[Special:Contributions/174.59.4.202|174.59.4.202]] 11:50, 1 January 2012 (EST)
===Support===
===Support===
It would be en epic koopa battle. [[:User:ZeldaStarfoxfan2164|ZeldaStarfoxfan2164]] ([[User talk:ZeldaStarfoxfan2164|talk]]) is a never lover boy  19:59, 9 May 2018 (EDT)
#<span style="font-family:Agency FB; font-size:12pt">[[User:BlindColours|<font color="black">'''Blind'''</font>]]</span><span style="font-family: Berlin Sans FB; font-size:12pt">[[User talk:BlindColours|<font color="red">C</font><font color="purple">ol</font>]][[ Special:Contributions/BlindColours|<font color="green">ou</font><font color="seablue">rs</font>]]</span> [[File:Boing.png|50px]] 12:33, 1 January 2012 (EST)
 
#[[User:MeleeMarth01|<font color="seablue">'''MeleeMarth01'''</font>]][[User talk:MeleeMarth01|<font color="red">''Happy New Year!''</font>]] [[File:MarthHeadSSBM.png|19px]] 13:25, 1 January 2012 (EST)
Sure, why not? [[User:TheNuttyOne|TheNuttyOne]] 14:50, 7 June 2018 (EDT)
#<span style="text-shadow:2px 2px 2px black">[[User:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:green">The</span>]] [[User talk:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:red">Solar</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon|<span style="color:blue">Dragon</span>]]</span> 16:12, 1 January 2012 (EST)
#[[User:ToastUltimatum|<font color="darkorange">'''Toast'''</font>]] [[File:Wii U Logo Transparent.png|17px|link=Special:Contributions/ToastUltimatum]][[User talk:ToastUltimatum|<font color="seablue">'''ltimatum'''</font>]][[File:Transparent Swadloon.png|26px]] 17:59, 1 January 2012 (EST)
#[[User:.....|.....]] [[User talk:.....|Happy]] [[Special:Contributions/.....|New Year]] [[File:MetaKnightHeadSSBB.png|19px]] 23:00, 1 January 2012 (EST)
#This is an appropriate three-way match. '''''[[User:Dr. Pain 99|<font color=red>D<font color=#DC0000>o<font color=#A50000>c<font color=#6E0000>t<font color=#370000>o<font color=black>rP</font>a</font>i</font>n</font>9</font>9</font>]]''''' [[Special:Contributions/Dr. Pain 99|<sub>{ROLLBACKER}</sub>]] 23:29, 1 January 2012 (EST)
#--- <font face="American Typewriter">''[[User:ReiDemon|Rei]][[User_talk:ReiDemon|Demon]], Author Extraordinaire''</font>, 21:35, 2 January 2012 (EST)
#Oh yeah this is good[[User:Drakon64|<font color="forestgreen">'''Drakon'''</font><font color="seablue">'''6'''</font>]][[User talk:Drakon64|<font color="gold">'''4'''</font>]]  [[File:CharizardHeadSSBB.png|19px]] 21:37, 6 January 2012 (EST)


===Oppose===
===Oppose===
I don't know. This seems kind of obvious. I don't think they're different enough. You're entitled to your opinion though. Blueflame105
===Comments===
===Comments===


==[[Villager]] vs. [[Rosalina]]==
==Mushroomy Kingdom vs. Green Hill Zone==


Both characters are fun and have a special move that can negate most projectiles (Pocket and Gravitational Pull, respectively) and are both fairly new. Both are newcomers. Who would win? What do you think? [[Special:Contributions/72.133.91.93|72.133.91.93]] 16:02, 9 May 2018 (EDT)Blueflame105 3:01, March 9 2018 (American Central Time)
The first level of Mario's first game, and the first zone of Sonic's first game. Which old-school stage will take the lead? [[User:Bowzerdude|Bowzerdude- Pure Epicness!]] ([[User talk:Bowzerdude|talk]]) 14:36, 1 January 2012 (EST)


===Support===
===Support===
A great battle for me so, let's give that a try! [[User:Dragonfirebreath25|Dragonfirebreath25]] ([[User talk:Dragonfirebreath25|talk]]) 12:15, 10 May 2018 (EDT)
#I think this is a better idea than Round 63. '''''[[User:Dr. Pain 99|<font color=red>D<font color=#DC0000>o<font color=#A50000>c<font color=#6E0000>t<font color=#370000>o<font color=black>rP</font>a</font>i</font>n</font>9</font>9</font>]]''''' [[Special:Contributions/Dr. Pain 99|<sub>{ROLLBACKER}</sub>]] 23:29, 1 January 2012 (EST)
 
#Two retros stages for two of the most famous characters. I see no problems here. --- <font face="American Typewriter">''[[User:ReiDemon|Rei]][[User_talk:ReiDemon|Demon]], Author Extraordinaire''</font>, 21:35, 2 January 2012 (EST)
This is a great idea. Has my support. YoshisaurusThe9th
#As the rivalry of Mario and Sonic goes, this stage battle certainly fits SA. Better then most recent ones.[[User:Drakon64|<font color="forestgreen">'''Drakon'''</font><font color="seablue">'''6'''</font>]][[User talk:Drakon64|<font color="gold">'''4'''</font>]]  [[File:CharizardHeadSSBB.png|19px]] 17:18, 3 January 2012 (EST)


===Oppose===
===Oppose===
I don't really get the connection. [[User:TheNuttyOne|TheNuttyOne]] 14:50, 7 June 2018 (EDT)
#<span style="text-shadow:2px 2px 2px black">[[User:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:green">The</span>]] [[User talk:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:red">Solar</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon|<span style="color:blue">Dragon</span>]]</span> 16:12, 1 January 2012 (EST)
#It's a good idea, but because of [[Forum:Smash_Arena/Archive_XIII#Round_63:_75m_vs._Green_Hill_Zone|Round 63: 75m vs. Green Hill Zone,]] and that [[Mushroomy Kingdom]] is two levels, I have to be a nay-sayer. [[User:MeleeMarth01|<font color="seablue">'''MeleeMarth01'''</font>]][[User talk:MeleeMarth01|<font color="red">''Happy New Year!''</font>]] [[File:MarthHeadSSBM.png|19px]] 21:45, 1 January 2012 (EST)
#[[User:.....|.....]] [[User talk:.....|Happy]] [[Special:Contributions/.....|New Year]] [[File:MetaKnightHeadSSBB.png|19px]] 23:00, 1 January 2012 (EST)


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I would support, had it not been for the fact we've already had 75m vs. Green Hill Zone for the same reasoning as this fight. Once again, I'm not going to directly oppose this, as it's otherwise a good fight, but I don't think I can fully support this. [[User:ToastUltimatum|<font color="darkorange">'''Toast'''</font>]] [[File:Wii U Logo Transparent.png|17px|link=Special:Contributions/ToastUltimatum]][[User talk:ToastUltimatum|<font color="seablue">'''ltimatum'''</font>]][[File:Transparent Swadloon.png|26px]] 15:59, 1 January 2012 (EST)
:Aw, well. This was my first time doing something like this anyway, so I just threw it out there. Too bad I don't pay all that much attention to all the details. I just thought it would be a good match-up in my head due to the rivalry. XP [[User:Bowzerdude|<font color="green">'''Bowzer'''</font><font color="yellow">'''dude'''</font>]][[User talk:Bowzerdude|<font color="red">'''- Pure Epicness!'''</font>]] [[File:BowserHeadSSBM.png|BowserHeadSSBM.png|19px]]  08:43, 2 January 2012 (EST)


==[[Koopalings|Wendy]] vs. [[Lucina]]==
It isn't Mario's 1st game, it's his 3rd. --[[Special:Contributions/99.255.104.101|99.255.104.101]] 18:56, 5 January 2012 (EST)
:Technically, it's his first main game. [[User:Bowzerdude|<font color="green">'''Bowzer'''</font><font color="yellow">'''dude'''</font>]][[User talk:Bowzerdude|<font color="red">'''- Pure Epicness!'''</font>]] [[File:BowserHeadSSBM.png|BowserHeadSSBM.png|19px]] 16:00, 12 January 2012 (EST)


The only unlockable females in the series. One fights to repair the future, the other fights to take over the world. One is driven and kind, the other is bratty and vicious. Which one reigns supreme? [[User:TheNuttyOne|TheNuttyOne]] 14:50, 7 June 2018 (EDT)
==Home-Run Bat vs. Fan==
 
While one is a slow, OHKO potential item, the other one is a fast, weak damage-dealing item. Which one is favored? [[User:KirbytheAmazing|<span style="color:pink">Kirbythe]] </span> [[Image:Meta+Kirby.jpg|23px]] [[User talk:KirbytheAmazing|<span style="color:blue">'''Amazing'''</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/KirbytheAmazing|'''Know my power!''']] 09:38, 2 January 2012 (EST)


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A nice matchup in my favor. [[User:Dragonfirebreath25|Dragonfirebreath25]] ([[User talk:Dragonfirebreath25|talk]]) 16:36, 7 June 2018 (EDT)
#It's PWAAAAAAANG vs SMACKSMACKAKAKAKAKAKAKAK! Yesz! [[User:Lucasthefourth|<span style="color:red"> :o '''Lucas'''</span>]][[User talk:Lucasthefourth|'''-IV-''']] [[Special:Contributions/Lucasthefourth|'''CREEP''']] [[Image:MCLucas.png|25px]] 09:57, 2 January 2012 (EST)
#Two Smash Bros. series items; why not?[[User:MeleeMarth01|<font color="seablue">'''MeleeMarth01'''</font>]][[User talk:MeleeMarth01|<font color="red">''Happy New Year!''</font>]] [[File:MarthHeadSSBM.png|19px]] 18:24, 2 January 2012 (EST)
#☆<span style="font-family:Algerian">[[User:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:green">The</span>]] [[User talk:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:red">Solar</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon|<span style="color:blue">Dragon</span>]]</span>☆ 18:41, 2 January 2012 (EST)
# '''''[[User:Dr. Pain 99|<font color=red>D<font color=#DC0000>o<font color=#A50000>c<font color=#6E0000>t<font color=#370000>o<font color=black>rP</font>a</font>i</font>n</font>9</font>9</font>]]''''' [[Special:Contributions/Dr. Pain 99|<sub>{ROLLBACKER}</sub>]] 00:23, 3 January 2012 (EST)
#[[User:.....|.....]] [[User talk:.....|Falcon]] [[Special:Contributions/.....|Punch!!!!]] [[File:PikachuHeadSSBB.png|19px]] 13:24, 7 January 2012 (EST)
#I love using these items, so... meh. You haz my approval. [[User:Bowzerdude|<font color="green">'''Bowzer'''</font><font color="yellow">'''dude'''</font>]][[User talk:Bowzerdude|<font color="red">'''- Pure Epicness!'''</font>]] [[File:BowserHeadSSBM.png|BowserHeadSSBM.png|19px]]  13:47, 13 January 2012 (EST)
 
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Just no. Please no. Also, Wendy isn't unlockable in for Wii U, and neither is Lucina, so that's driven entirely from the 3DS version, right? [[Special:Contributions/72.133.91.93|72.133.91.93]] 12:03, 8 June 2018 (EDT) Blueflame105


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While I can't fully support due to the Home-Run Bat being used in the last fight, I also can't directly oppose this, as otherwise it's a pretty good idea. [[User:Bowzerdude|<font color="green">'''Bowzer'''</font><font color="yellow">'''dude'''</font>]][[User talk:Bowzerdude|<font color="red">'''- Pure Epicness!'''</font>]] [[File:BowserHeadSSBM.png|BowserHeadSSBM.png|19px]]  09:54, 2 January 2012 (EST)
:You do know that this matchup is unlikely to show up until about 10 rounds have passed should it be accepted? <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[Image: TyranitarMS.png ]] 10:50, 2 January 2012 (EST)
:0.0 [[User:Bowzerdude|<font color="green">'''Bowzer'''</font><font color="yellow">'''dude'''</font>]][[User talk:Bowzerdude|<font color="red">'''- Pure Epicness!'''</font>]] [[File:BowserHeadSSBM.png|BowserHeadSSBM.png|19px]]  11:28, 2 January 2012 (EST)
:In that case, I'll do something different. [[User:Bowzerdude|<font color="green">'''Bowzer'''</font><font color="yellow">'''dude'''</font>]][[User talk:Bowzerdude|<font color="red">'''- Pure Epicness!'''</font>]] [[File:BowserHeadSSBM.png|BowserHeadSSBM.png|19px]]  13:44, 13 January 2012 (EST)


==[[Lakitu & Spinies]] vs. [[Hammer Bro.]]==
==Koopa Troop vs. R.O.B. Squad==
 
The two independent armies within the Subspace Army face off to prove who is best out of the two. ☆<span style="font-family:Algerian">[[User:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:green">The</span>]] [[User talk:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:red">Solar</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon|<span style="color:blue">Dragon</span>]]</span>☆ 18:41, 2 January 2012 (EST)
Two [[Assist Trophies]] from the ''Mario'' series. One throws Spinies, the other throws hammers. Which one is your favorite? [[User:Dragonfirebreath25|Dragonfirebreath25]] ([[User talk:Dragonfirebreath25|talk]]) 16:36, 7 June 2018 (EDT)


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It's a cool idea, so I'll support this. I would definitely vote for Hammer Bro. though. I hate going up against Lakitu. [[Special:Contributions/72.133.91.93|72.133.91.93]] 12:04, 8 June 2018 (EDT)Blueflame105
# I got no problems here. '''''[[User:Dr. Pain 99|<font color=red>D<font color=#DC0000>o<font color=#A50000>c<font color=#6E0000>t<font color=#370000>o<font color=black>rP</font>a</font>i</font>n</font>9</font>9</font>]]''''' [[Special:Contributions/Dr. Pain 99|<sub>{ROLLBACKER}</sub>]] 00:23, 3 January 2012 (EST)
#This is pretty good [[User:KirbytheAmazing|<span style="color:pink">Kirbythe]] </span> [[Image:Meta+Kirby.jpg|23px]] [[User talk:KirbytheAmazing|<span style="color:blue">'''Amazing'''</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/KirbytheAmazing|'''Know my power!''']] 08:28, 3 January 2012 (EST)
#Koopas<3<3<3 Love them! You can guess who I'd vote for XD [[User:ToastUltimatum|<font color="darkorange">'''Toast'''</font>]] [[File:Wii U Logo Transparent.png|17px|link=Special:Contributions/ToastUltimatum]][[User talk:ToastUltimatum|<font color="seablue">'''ltimatum'''</font>]][[File:Transparent Swadloon.png|26px]] 13:56, 6 January 2012 (EST)
#Two armies of fairly weak foes... [[User:MeleeMarth01|<font color="seablue">'''MeleeMarth01'''</font>]][[User talk:MeleeMarth01|<font color="red"> ''Minna, miteite edit!''</font>]] [[File:MarthHeadSSBM.png|19px]] 23:30, 6 January 2012 (EST)
#[[User:.....|.....]] [[User talk:.....|Falcon]] [[Special:Contributions/.....|Punch!!!!]] [[File:PikachuHeadSSBB.png|19px]] 13:24, 7 January 2012 (EST)
#I don't see why not. Great idea. [[User:Bowzerdude|<font color="green">'''Bowzer'''</font><font color="yellow">'''dude'''</font>]][[User talk:Bowzerdude|<font color="red">'''- Pure Epicness!'''</font>]] [[File:BowserHeadSSBM.png|BowserHeadSSBM.png|19px]] 13:42, 13 January 2012 (EST)


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Rematches are uninteresting in general, especially now that we're going to have 5 ''Smash'' games and now, there are more ''Mario'' based assists. [[:User:ZeldaStarfoxfan2164|ZeldaStarfoxfan2164]] ([[User talk:ZeldaStarfoxfan2164|talk]]) is a never lover boy  23:43, 21 July 2018 (EDT)
 
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Not saying it couldn't happen as it was more than 100 matches ago, but discovered this same matchup with their Brawl incarnations in the archives. While I do like this matchup and fully support it, it does say you aren't likely to get a repeat unless people really want a different result or it was a tie. [[Special:Contributions/72.133.91.93|72.133.91.93]] 19:06, 6 July 2018 (EDT)Blueflame105
==[[Mario Circuit (SSB4)]] vs. [[Rainbow Road]]==


3, 2, 1... GO! Two stages from ''{{iw|mariowiki|Mario Kart|series}}'' battle it out in a race to the finish. One is from ''{{s|mariowiki|Mario Kart 8}}'' and ''{{s|mariowiki|Mario Kart 8 Deluxe}}'', the other is from ''{{s|mariowiki|Mario Kart 7}}''. Who will take the checkered flag in this match? [[User:Dragonfirebreath25|Dragonfirebreath25]] ([[User talk:Dragonfirebreath25|talk]]) 01:10, 17 June 2018 (EDT)
== Ike and Marth vs Bowser and Charizard ==
Knights and Dragons have been rivals since the beginning of time. These similar characters team up to face their rivals in an epic team fight. Will the Swordsmen slay the tyrants or will these beasts crush the men? An enviable battle of Human and Monster will be commenced![[User:Drakon64|<font color="forestgreen">'''Drakon'''</font><font color="seablue">'''6'''</font>]][[User talk:Drakon64|<font color="gold">'''4'''</font>]] [[File:CharizardHeadSSBB.png|19px]] 21:06, 2 January 2012 (EST)  


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Great Idea in my opinion.
#The idea sounds cool if you don't ruin it by getting too technical about it. --[[Special:Contributions/174.59.4.202|174.59.4.202]] 11:04, 7 January 2012 (EST)
[[User: CaptainDabsalot|CaptainDabsalot]] Or [[User Talk: CaptainDabsalot|The SavageCow]] 6/22/18 11:04 CST


[[:User:ZeldaStarfoxfan2164|ZeldaStarfoxfan2164]] ([[User talk:ZeldaStarfoxfan2164|talk]]) is a never lover boy  23:43, 21 July 2018 (EDT)
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#Sorry, this may seem like an epic battle or something but the characters don't seem similar to each other. [[User:.....|.....]] [[User talk:.....|Falcon]] [[Special:Contributions/.....|Punch!!!!]] [[File:PikachuHeadSSBB.png|19px]] 21:15, 2 January 2012 (EST)
#It's rather fanon to assume that Ike and Marth dislike Bowser and Charizard, seeing as how they show no interaction. <span style="font-family:Forte">[[User:Megatron1|<span style="color:maroon">Mega</span>]][[User talk:Megatron1|<span style="color:silver">Tron1</span>]][[User:Megatron1/Laughology|<span style="color:blue">XD</span>]]</span>[[File:Decepticon.png|19px|:p]] 21:28, 2 January 2012 (EST)
#While the concept is moderately inventive with teams, but I don't see how a tag team of Bowser and Charizard can work well. --- <font face="American Typewriter">''[[User:ReiDemon|Rei]][[User_talk:ReiDemon|Demon]], Author Extraordinaire''</font>, 21:52, 2 January 2012 (EST)
#What Mega and Rei said. '''''[[User:Dr. Pain 99|<font color=red>D<font color=#DC0000>o<font color=#A50000>c<font color=#6E0000>t<font color=#370000>o<font color=black>rP</font>a</font>i</font>n</font>9</font>9</font>]]''''' [[Special:Contributions/Dr. Pain 99|<sub>{ROLLBACKER </sub>]] 00:23, 3 January 2012 (EST)
#This matchup is entirely based on fanon interpretations of the OP, that are in turn based on stereotypes, rather than actual traits the characters display. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[Image: TyranitarMS.png ]] 07:39, 3 January 2012 (EST)
#[[User:MeleeMarth01|<font color="seablue">'''MeleeMarth01'''</font>]][[User talk:MeleeMarth01|<font color="red"> ''Minna, miteite edit!''</font>]] [[File:MarthHeadSSBM.png|19px]] 23:31, 6 January 2012 (EST)
#Per all. ☆<span style="font-family:Algerian">[[User:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:green">The</span> <span style="color:red">Solar</span> <span style="color:blue">Dragon</span>]] <sup>([[User talk:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:gold">Talk</span>]] - [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon|Contribs.]])</sup></span>☆ 11:14, 7 January 2012 (EST)


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@..... Uhhh Ike and Marth are knight like characters. Both use swords, hunted monsters and are even from the same series. Charizard and Bowser are scaly, fire-breathing monsters who have similar approaches and skills. Given that both dislike the other, it seems this would be a good match.[[User:Drakon64|<font color="forestgreen">'''Drakon'''</font><font color="seablue">'''6'''</font>]][[User talk:Drakon64|<font color="gold">'''4'''</font>]]  [[File:CharizardHeadSSBB.png|19px]] 21:23, 2 January 2012 (EST)


==[[Daisy]] vs. [[Inkling]] vs. [[Ridley]]==
@Megatron I mean in the sense that they dislike monsters and Bowser and Charizard dislike warriors. ie Bowser to Mario( mushroom kingdom warrior) Charizard to hunters(though violent to any attackers really). As for Marth and Ike, they face monsters all the time.[[User:Drakon64|<font color="forestgreen">'''Drakon'''</font><font color="seablue">'''6'''</font>]][[User talk:Drakon64|<font color="gold">'''4'''</font>]]  [[File:CharizardHeadSSBB.png|19px]] 21:37, 2 January 2012 (EST)
:Very large extention on the warrior thing. Mario is not the Mushroom Kingdom Warrior, while Pokemon Trainers aren't really warriors in the sense they take swords to fight Charizard. In addition, Marth and Ike face '''dragons''' all the time, not monsters. <span style="font-family:Forte">[[User:Megatron1|<span style="color:maroon">Mega</span>]][[User talk:Megatron1|<span style="color:silver">Tron1</span>]][[User:Megatron1/Laughology|<span style="color:blue">XD</span>]]</span>[[File:Decepticon.png|19px|:p]] 21:47, 2 January 2012 (EST)
::Dragons are monsters are they not? Warriors can be a synonym for hero and in this sense, Mario can be and was occasionally referenced as a warrior, like in Super Mario RPG. Also Pokemon Trainers are not what I mean by hunters. The few times I watched Pokemon, some weird group attacked some Charizards on a mountain in their form. They used grenades, bombs and even a select few used Swords. They lost of course, but the Charizards along with other Pokemon showed a fear and hatred of weapons, which Swordsmen always have weapons. Also while this whole Smash Arena is fanon, the two sides have a hatred towereds the species faced against them. ie Warriors dislike Dragons, so since Bowser and Charizard appear Dragon-Like, they will not be separated from that group therefore disliked. Food for thought :) [[User:Drakon64|<font color="forestgreen">'''Drakon'''</font><font color="seablue">'''6'''</font>]][[User talk:Drakon64|<font color="gold">'''4'''</font>]]  [[File:CharizardHeadSSBB.png|19px]] 21:59, 2 January 2012 (EST)


The first three newcomers announced for SSBU. Which noob gets the most hype? ...Wait a second... [[Forum:Smash_Arena/Archive_40#Villager_vs._Wii_Fit_Trainer_vs._Mega_Man|hasn't something like this been done before?]] [[User:infernape612|<span style="color:orange">infernape]][[User talk:infernape612|<span style="color:orange">612</span>]]</span> 20:17, 21 July 2018 (EDT)
@ReiDemon Charizard and Bowser are dragon-like and personal feelings have no effect in Smash Arena, as Mario would never fight Luigi normally, nor would Tabbu fight his own minions who are loyal.[[User:Drakon64|<font color="forestgreen">'''Drakon'''</font><font color="seablue">'''6'''</font>]][[User talk:Drakon64|<font color="gold">'''4'''</font>]] [[File:CharizardHeadSSBB.png|19px]] 22:02, 2 January 2012 (EST)
:I will concede that this point is true. However, the problem lies in the fact that the contrast between the two teams is too great; the Fire Emblem team makes sense, since both are from the same universe, but the Bowser and Charizard team seems too "out there" in comparison. --- <font face="American Typewriter">''[[User:ReiDemon|Rei]][[User_talk:ReiDemon|Demon]], Author Extraordinaire''</font>, 23:44, 6 January 2012 (EST)


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Wait a sec, Drakon! This suggestion is the second suggestion you have while your fist suggestion is still there. Users may only suggest ONE suggestions at a time a right? [[User:Lucasthefourth|<span style="color:red"> :o '''Lucas'''</span>]][[User talk:Lucasthefourth|'''-IV-''']] [[Special:Contributions/Lucasthefourth|'''CREEP''']] [[Image:MCLucas.png|25px]] 05:23, 3 January 2012 (EST)
I mean... yeah. [[User:TheNuttyOne|TheNuttyOne]] 20:42, 21 July 2018 (EDT)
:His last suggestion was over a week ago. There is currently no rule to not being able to have more than one suggestion up at a time. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[Image: TyranitarMS.png ]] 07:39, 3 January 2012 (EST)


ABSOLUTELY! Ultimate looks really good. Counting down the days till December 9th..... [[Special:Contributions/72.133.91.93|72.133.91.93]] 22:30, 21 July 2018 (EDT)Blueflame105
''ie Warriors dislike Dragons''


The only time such matchup is valid. [[:User:ZeldaStarfoxfan2164|ZeldaStarfoxfan2164]] ([[User talk:ZeldaStarfoxfan2164|talk]]) is a never lover boy  23:43, 21 July 2018 (EDT)
Uhm, what? Have you actually played the Fire Emblem games with Marth and Ike Drakon? Ike has no animosity towards the dragon laguz, and he has even befriended some of them. And Marth certainly has no problems allying himself with Manaketes (people who can turn into dragons). Also, 99% of the opponents in both games of Ike's and Marth's are humans. Saying Ike and Marth dislike dragons, and would thus dislike Bowser and Charizard, is purely your own fanon
construction. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[Image: TyranitarMS.png ]] 07:39, 3 January 2012 (EST)


Love it! That one is going to be awesome! [[User:Dragonfirebreath25|Dragonfirebreath25]] ([[User talk:Dragonfirebreath25|talk]]) 13:07, 29 July 2018 (EDT)
I'm sorry. My only source was an apparently vandalized page on Fire Elblem Wiki. I never seen a FE game available here, so I guess I should have checked the biography of these characters more. Hadn't been for the false information given, I would've came up with a much better idea ie Galleom vs Duon or Sonic vs Gannondorf ( given that they're polar opposites in gameplay)[[User:Drakon64|<font color="forestgreen">'''Drakon'''</font><font color="seablue">'''6'''</font>]][[User talk:Drakon64|<font color="gold">'''4'''</font>]]  [[File:CharizardHeadSSBB.png|19px]] 17:27, 3 January 2012 (EST)
:Galleom vs Duon was done in round 30, and we haven't passed round 130 yet, so you won't be able to suggest that one. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[Image: TyranitarMS.png ]] 16:47, 4 January 2012 (EST)
::Oh....wut about Sonic vs Gannondorf?[[User:Drakon64|<font color="forestgreen">'''Drakon'''</font><font color="seablue">'''6'''</font>]][[User talk:Drakon64|<font color="gold">'''4'''</font>]]  [[File:CharizardHeadSSBB.png|19px]] 17:09, 4 January 2012 (EST)


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== Ike vs Olimar ==
 
===Comments===


Ike: I fight for ma friends


==[[Kirby (SSB4)|Kirby]] Vs. [[Jigglypuff (SSB4)| Jigglypuff]]==
Olimar:My friends fight for me


Pink. Puffy. Powerful. Wait, which one am I talking about? It's pink puffball on pink puffball in this puffball brawl. Both are floaty, pink, and overall competitively useless! Both of their up specials can hinder their recoveries, but can jump a lot (maybe too much) so it's all good. It's the ULTIMATE BATTLE! What's that? You say it's not? Well then, [[Kirby]] or [[Jigglypuff]]. [[Special:Contributions/72.133.91.93|72.133.91.93]] 08:53, 22 July 2018 (EDT)Blueflame105
Honestly though olimar did something too for the pikmins, mostly the pikmins are the one doing the job for olimar. [[User:Lucasthefourth|<span style="color:red"> :o '''Lucas'''</span>]][[User talk:Lucasthefourth|'''-IV-''']] [[Special:Contributions/Lucasthefourth|'''CREEP''']] [[Image:MCLucas.png|25px]] 11:56, 3 January 2012 (EST)


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#Nice contrast. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[Image: TyranitarMS.png ]] 12:40, 3 January 2012 (EST)
#Interesting interpretation '''''[[User:Dr. Pain 99|<font color=red>D<font color=#DC0000>o<font color=#A50000>c<font color=#6E0000>t<font color=#370000>o<font color=black>rP</font>a</font>i</font>n</font>9</font>9</font>]]''''' [[Special:Contributions/Dr. Pain 99|<sub>{ROLLBACKER}</sub>]] 16:57, 3 January 2012 (EST)
#Nice description. --[[Special:Contributions/174.59.4.202|174.59.4.202]] 17:55, 3 January 2012 (EST)
#LULZ :V [[User:KirbytheAmazing|<span style="color:pink">Kirbythe]] </span> [[Image:Meta+Kirby.jpg|23px]] [[User talk:KirbytheAmazing|<span style="color:blue">'''Amazing'''</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/KirbytheAmazing|'''Know my power!''']] 18:14, 3 January 2012 (EST)
#I see no reason to disallow a fight because one similar occurred before. --- <font face="American Typewriter">''[[User:ReiDemon|Rei]][[User_talk:ReiDemon|Demon]], Author Extraordinaire''</font>, 13:21, 7 January 2012 (EST)


===Oppose===
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This match was already done in a lopsided result. Also I noticed that much of your contributions have been Smash Arena related and we're currently on a Red wiki status and spending to much time in the Smash Arena without contributing to the mainspace can result in an IP block (or probation if you're a registered user). [[:User:ZeldaStarfoxfan2164|ZeldaStarfoxfan2164]] ([[User talk:ZeldaStarfoxfan2164|talk]]) is bad for me  18:52, 23 July 2018 (EDT)
#We already had a fight similar to this. The Ike vs Pokemon Trainer which used the exact same basis. Hadn't been for that, I would have supported.[[User:Drakon64|<font color="forestgreen">'''Drakon'''</font><font color="seablue">'''6'''</font>]][[User talk:Drakon64|<font color="gold">'''4'''</font>]]  [[File:CharizardHeadSSBB.png|19px]] 17:13, 3 January 2012 (EST)
#I too have to oppose for the same reasons as Drakon64. Sorry. [[User:ToastUltimatum|<font color="darkorange">'''Toast'''</font>]] [[File:Wii U Logo Transparent.png|17px|link=Special:Contributions/ToastUltimatum]][[User talk:ToastUltimatum|<font color="seablue">'''ltimatum'''</font>]][[File:Transparent Swadloon.png|26px]] 13:56, 6 January 2012 (EST)
#Per Drakon64 and ToastUltimatum; sorry. [[User:MeleeMarth01|<font color="seablue">'''MeleeMarth01'''</font>]][[User talk:MeleeMarth01|<font color="red"> ''Minna, miteite edit!''</font>]] [[File:MarthHeadSSBM.png|19px]] 23:32, 6 January 2012 (EST)
#Same reason as everyone else. ☆<span style="font-family:Algerian">[[User:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:green">The</span> <span style="color:red">Solar</span> <span style="color:blue">Dragon</span>]] <sup>([[User talk:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:gold">Talk</span>]] - [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon|Contribs.]])</sup></span>☆ 11:14, 7 January 2012 (EST)
#[[User:.....|.....]] [[User talk:.....|Falcon]] [[Special:Contributions/.....|Punch!!!!]] [[File:PikachuHeadSSBB.png|19px]] 13:24, 7 January 2012 (EST)
#we can do anything with Ike and 'friends' and thats a little too cheap.[[Special:Contributions/86.82.234.185|86.82.234.185]] 03:41, 8 January 2012 (EST)


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I apologize. I was not aware of this, and will refrain from doing Smash Arena things, at least until wiki status lowers. I have been attempting tobe more helpful on the wiki, but overall, I'm not good at it. [[Special:Contributions/72.133.91.93|72.133.91.93]] 22:51, 25 July 2018 (EDT)Blueflame105
Drakon, a similar fight is something normal. But if that is your opinion, fine [[User:Lucasthefourth|<span style="color:red"> :o '''Lucas'''</span>]][[User talk:Lucasthefourth|'''-IV-''']] [[Special:Contributions/Lucasthefourth|'''CREEP''']] [[Image:MCLucas.png|25px]] 21:40, 3 January 2012 (EST)


==[[Cloud Strife]] Vs. [[Solid Snake]]==
It's nothing personal, but I like to see each battle unique. Ike vs PT had the same reasons for battle. For PT, ''' My friends fight for me''' while Ike fought for his friends. Olimar dosnt fight for friends nor makes friends fight for him. He fights WITH his friends. Ice Climbers vs Olimar wouldve been a better suggestion since both use teamwork to succeed in battle.[[User:Drakon64|<font color="forestgreen">'''Drakon'''</font><font color="seablue">'''6'''</font>]][[User talk:Drakon64|<font color="gold">'''4'''</font>]] [[File:CharizardHeadSSBB.png|19px]] 17:17, 4 January 2012 (EST)
While these two super soldiers are largely considered Playstation classics, they've found there way into Nintendo's big crossover. Both may take some stuff through cloning (Cloud has Zack's memories and abilities, Snake is a literal clone of Big Boss) but who comes out on top? Btw, they're both relatively mature for Nintendo titles --[[User:Myth|<font color="orange">'''Myth'''</font>]] [[File:Myth Kirby.png|19px|link=User talk:Myth]] 21:19, 11 August 2018 (EDT)
:We have nana vs pikmin already :/ besides olimar can hardly do anything withou t' pikmin in the original game. [[User:Lucasthefourth|<span style="color:red"> :o '''Lucas'''</span>]][[User talk:Lucasthefourth|'''-IV-''']] [[Special:Contributions/Lucasthefourth|'''CREEP''']] [[Image:MCLucas.png|25px]] 19:42, 4 January 2012 (EST)
I just realize two opposes said 'sorry'. Why sorry? Its your opinion and not a big deal [[User:Lucasthefourth|<span style="color:red"> :o '''Lucas'''</span>]][[User talk:Lucasthefourth|'''-IV-''']] [[Special:Contributions/Lucasthefourth|'''CREEP''']] [[Image:MCLucas.png|25px]] 11:59, 7 January 2012 (EST)


=== Support ===
==[[Lottery]] vs. [[Coin Launcher]]==
I nearly removed this suggestion because I thought it involved an ''Ultimate'' character, then I found out Cloud was in ''SSB4''. [[:User:ZeldaStarfoxfan2164|ZeldaStarfoxfan2164]] ([[User talk:ZeldaStarfoxfan2164|talk]]) is a never lover boy  22:42, 11 August 2018 (EDT)
''Melee'' and ''Brawl'' both featured modes designed solely for the purpose of obtaining trophies. But is the people's preference in favour of the more conventional, or the more complex? [[User:ToastUltimatum|<font color="darkorange">'''Toast'''</font>]] [[File:Wii U Logo Transparent.png|17px|link=Special:Contributions/ToastUltimatum]][[User talk:ToastUltimatum|<font color="seablue">'''ltimatum'''</font>]][[File:Transparent Swadloon.png|26px]] 19:08, 6 January 2012 (EST)


They are great characters in both ''Smash 4'' and ''Ultimate'' so, let's do it! By the way, Cloud's debut game is ''Final Fantasy VII'', while ''Metal Gear Solid'' is Snake's first game. [[User:Dragonfirebreath25|Dragonfirebreath25]] ([[User talk:Dragonfirebreath25|talk]]) 15:23, 23 August 2018 (EDT)
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#This sounds good [[User:Drakon64|<font color="forestgreen">'''Drakon'''</font><font color="seablue">'''6'''</font>]][[User talk:Drakon64|<font color="gold">'''4'''</font>]]  [[File:CharizardHeadSSBB.png|19px]] 19:27, 6 January 2012 (EST)
#This one has potential.  ''[[User:JamesHeart123|<font color="blue">James</font>]]''[[file:Heart.JPG|15px|link=User talk:JamesHeart123]]''[[Special:Contributions/JamesHeart123|<font color="blue">123</font>]]'' 21:27, 6 January 2012 (EST)
#Interesting... I like it! [[User:MeleeMarth01|<font color="seablue">'''MeleeMarth01'''</font>]][[User talk:MeleeMarth01|<font color="red"> ''Minna, miteite edit!''</font>]] [[File:MarthHeadSSBM.png|19px]] 23:33, 6 January 2012 (EST)
#Neat. --[[Special:Contributions/174.59.4.202|174.59.4.202]] 11:04, 7 January 2012 (EST)
#It's different I guess. ☆<span style="font-family:Algerian">[[User:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:green">The</span> <span style="color:red">Solar</span> <span style="color:blue">Dragon</span>]] <sup>([[User talk:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:gold">Talk</span>]] - [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon|Contribs.]])</sup></span>☆ 11:14, 7 January 2012 (EST)
#Sure '''''[[User:Dr. Pain 99|<font color=red>D<font color=#DC0000>o<font color=#A50000>c<font color=#6E0000>t<font color=#370000>o<font color=black>rP</font>a</font>i</font>n</font>9</font>9</font>]]''''' [[Special:Contributions/Dr. Pain 99|<sub>{ROLLBACKER}</sub>]] 13:10, 7 January 2012 (EST)
#Creative. Unusual. The perfect combination. --- <font face="American Typewriter">''[[User:ReiDemon|Rei]][[User_talk:ReiDemon|Demon]], Author Extraordinaire''</font>, 13:21, 7 January 2012 (EST)
#[[User:.....|.....]] [[User talk:.....|Falcon]] [[Special:Contributions/.....|Punch!!!!]] [[File:PikachuHeadSSBB.png|19px]] 13:24, 7 January 2012 (EST)


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==[[Battlefield]] Vs. [[Big Battlefield]]==
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Pretty simple idea. Battlefield vs its big bro. --[[User:Myth|<font color="orange">'''Myth'''</font>]] [[File:Myth Kirby.png|19px|link=User talk:Myth]] 12:05, 28 December 2018 (EST)
I thought your last suggestion was only six days ago though, and not a full week.  Sorry if I sound like a jerk; I have no problem with it, just making an observation.  ''[[User:JamesHeart123|<font color="blue">James</font>]]''[[file:Heart.JPG|15px|link=User talk:JamesHeart123]]''[[Special:Contributions/JamesHeart123|<font color="blue">123</font>]]'' 21:27, 6 January 2012 (EST)
:I made my last fight Saturday afternoon, GMT. I made this fight in the 1:00 a.m. region, also GMT, which is technically Saturday. A bit early perhaps, but it had still been 7 days in my country. [[User:ToastUltimatum|<font color="darkorange">'''Toast'''</font>]] [[File:Wii U Logo Transparent.png|17px|link=Special:Contributions/ToastUltimatum]][[User talk:ToastUltimatum|<font color="seablue">'''ltimatum'''</font>]][[File:Transparent Swadloon.png|26px]] 08:01, 7 January 2012 (EST)


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==[[Landmaster]] ([[Fox]]) vs. Landmaster ([[Falco]]) vs. Landmaster ([[Wolf]])==
Not a bad idea. <span style="color:lightblue">Everone123</span> ([[User:Everone123|userpage]] • [[User talk:Everone123|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Everone123|contribs]]) 22:15, 7 January 2019 (EST)
All three of theses powerful tanks have different attributes and each playable StarFox character has one. Which tank do you prefer. This is a pretty silly suggestion don't you think but this is probably a bad fight. :P [[User:.....|.....]] [[User talk:.....|Falcon]] [[Special:Contributions/.....|Punch!!!!]] [[File:PikachuHeadSSBB.png|19px]] 20:21, 6 January 2012 (EST)


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# Well I guess this is okay. I don't see any differences but that might be the problem. Oh well I guess it's all right.[[User:Drakon64|<font color="forestgreen">'''Drakon'''</font><font color="seablue">'''6'''</font>]][[User talk:Drakon64|<font color="gold">'''4'''</font>]]  [[File:CharizardHeadSSBB.png|19px]] 21:32, 6 January 2012 (EST)


No contest. Big Battlefield wins (Bigger means better). Try coming up with something else. --[[User:JackyBlooo|JackyBlooo]] ([[User talk:JackyBlooo|talk]]) 08:52, 3 January 2019 (EST)
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#Not an appropriate 3-way fight, as the differences between Fox and Falco's Landmasters aren't entirely distinguishable. [[User:ToastUltimatum|<font color="darkorange">'''Toast'''</font>]] [[File:Wii U Logo Transparent.png|17px|link=Special:Contributions/ToastUltimatum]][[User talk:ToastUltimatum|<font color="seablue">'''ltimatum'''</font>]][[File:Transparent Swadloon.png|26px]] 20:25, 6 January 2012 (EST)
#The hell? Too similar. Its like a 3 clone fight, not fun [[User:Lucasthefourth|<span style="color:red"> :o '''Lucas'''</span>]][[User talk:Lucasthefourth|'''-IV-''']] [[Special:Contributions/Lucasthefourth|'''CREEP''']] [[Image:MCLucas.png|25px]] 21:37, 6 January 2012 (EST)
#Per Lt4. [[User:MeleeMarth01|<font color="seablue">'''MeleeMarth01'''</font>]][[User talk:MeleeMarth01|<font color="red"> ''Minna, miteite edit!''</font>]] [[File:MarthHeadSSBM.png|19px]] 23:33, 6 January 2012 (EST)
#--[[Special:Contributions/174.59.4.202|174.59.4.202]] 11:04, 7 January 2012 (EST)
#Too similar. ☆<span style="font-family:Algerian">[[User:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:green">The</span> <span style="color:red">Solar</span> <span style="color:blue">Dragon</span>]] <sup>([[User talk:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:gold">Talk</span>]] - [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon|Contribs.]])</sup></span>☆ 11:14, 7 January 2012 (EST)
#Dude, ..., don't suggest it if you think its a stupid fight. '''''[[User:Dr. Pain 99|<font color=red>D<font color=#DC0000>o<font color=#A50000>c<font color=#6E0000>t<font color=#370000>o<font color=black>rP</font>a</font>i</font>n</font>9</font>9</font>]]''''' [[Special:Contributions/Dr. Pain 99|<sub>{ROLLBACKER}</sub>]] 13:10, 7 January 2012 (EST)
#Too similar. --- <font face="American Typewriter">''[[User:ReiDemon|Rei]][[User_talk:ReiDemon|Demon]], Author Extraordinaire''</font>, 13:21, 7 January 2012 (EST)
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Lucas watch your mouth......[[User:Drakon64|<font color="forestgreen">'''Drakon'''</font><font color="seablue">'''6'''</font>]][[User talk:Drakon64|<font color="gold">'''4'''</font>]]  [[File:CharizardHeadSSBB.png|19px]] 21:41, 6 January 2012 (EST)
:This is a public wiki, you can't forbid people from saying bad words but I do agree saying them it is somewhat disrespectful. [[User:.....|.....]] [[User talk:.....|Falcon]] [[Special:Contributions/.....|Punch!!!!]] [[File:PikachuHeadSSBB.png|19px]] 23:38, 6 January 2012 (EST)
::<s>2 things you need to get right. This is a Wiki. You are not allowed to forbid people from saying bad words, but if they use too much, you can tell them to tone it down. Second,</s> hell is not a serious cursing word in comparison to others. <span style="font-family:Forte">[[User:Megatron1|<span style="color:maroon">Mega</span>]][[User talk:Megatron1|<span style="color:silver">Tron1</span>]][[User:Megatron1/Laughology|<span style="color:blue">XD</span>]]</span>[[File:Decepticon.png|19px|:p]] 00:16, 7 January 2012 (EST)
:::Are you talking to me? I was just telling him that and made a mistake on my post. [[User:.....|.....]] [[User talk:.....|Falcon]] [[Special:Contributions/.....|Punch!!!!]] [[File:PikachuHeadSSBB.png|19px]] 00:38, 7 January 2012 (EST)


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Uh are u allowed to support or oppose your own suggestion?[[User:Drakon64|<font color="forestgreen">'''Drakon'''</font><font color="seablue">'''6'''</font>]][[User talk:Drakon64|<font color="gold">'''4'''</font>]]  [[File:CharizardHeadSSBB.png|19px]] 08:55, 8 January 2012 (EST)
:You may not support your own suggestion. Nothing's ever been said about opposing your own. [[User:ToastUltimatum|<font color="darkorange">'''Toast'''</font>]] [[File:Wii U Logo Transparent.png|17px|link=Special:Contributions/ToastUltimatum]][[User talk:ToastUltimatum|<font color="seablue">'''ltimatum'''</font>]][[File:Transparent Swadloon.png|26px]] 08:59, 8 January 2012 (EST)


== [[Luigi's Mansion]] vs. [[Dracula's Castle]] ==
==[[Saffron City]] vs. [[Fourside]]==


Two locations, one being a haunted mansion in the middle of a spooky forest that is home to a green-clad  plumber, the other being a giant castle on the outskirts of Transylvania that is home to an evil vampire, both places equally spooky. --[[User:JackyBlooo|JackyBlooo]] ([[User talk:JackyBlooo|talk]]) 08:56, 3 January 2019 (EST)
One appears in SSB64, the other Melee. One has Pokémon, the other a UFO. Both have narrow pits that are hard to recover from. Which stage is respected more by the Smash community? [[User:MeleeMarth01|<font color="seablue">'''MeleeMarth01'''</font>]][[User talk:MeleeMarth01|<font color="red"> ''Minna, miteite edit!''</font>]] [[File:MarthHeadSSBM.png|19px]] 12:38, 7 January 2012 (EST)


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I think another fun connection is Dracula's Castle used to replace Luigi's Mansion in PM. --[[User:Myth|<font color="orange">'''Myth'''</font>]] [[File:Myth Kirby.png|19px|link=User talk:Myth]] 18:32, 19 January 2019 (EST)
#'Tis surprising this hasn't already been done. And MeleeMarth01, in line with us both coming up with the same suggestions as each other, this one did cross my mind, but I wasn't going to suggest it myself. [[User:ToastUltimatum|<font color="darkorange">'''Toast'''</font>]] [[File:Wii U Logo Transparent.png|17px|link=Special:Contributions/ToastUltimatum]][[User talk:ToastUltimatum|<font color="seablue">'''ltimatum'''</font>]][[File:Transparent Swadloon.png|26px]] 12:52, 7 January 2012 (EST)
#Basically the reason in the description. '''''[[User:Dr. Pain 99|<font color=red>D<font color=#DC0000>o<font color=#A50000>c<font color=#6E0000>t<font color=#370000>o<font color=black>rP</font>a</font>i</font>n</font>9</font>9</font>]]''''' [[Special:Contributions/Dr. Pain 99|<sub>{ROLLBACKER}</sub>]] 13:10, 7 January 2012 (EST)
#--- <font face="American Typewriter">''[[User:ReiDemon|Rei]][[User_talk:ReiDemon|Demon]], Author Extraordinaire''</font>, 13:21, 7 January 2012 (EST)
#[[User:.....|.....]] [[User talk:.....|Falcon]] [[Special:Contributions/.....|Punch!!!!]] [[File:PikachuHeadSSBB.png|19px]] 13:24, 7 January 2012 (EST)
#Yesh. --[[Special:Contributions/174.59.4.202|174.59.4.202]] 11:21, 8 January 2012 (EST)
#Excellent suggestion. Some more similarities are that they are both cities, and some of the people who made EarthBound went on to make Pokemon. [[User:Unknown the Hedgehog|<font color="#FF0000">Unknown </font>]] [[User talk:Unknown the Hedgehog|<font color="#780000">the </font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Unknown the Hedgehog|<font color="#000000">Hedgehog</font>]] 20:55, 8 January 2012 (EST)


This is my kind of battle! [[User:Dragonfirebreath25|Dragonfirebreath25]] ([[User talk:Dragonfirebreath25|talk]]) 18:35, 19 January 2019 (EST)
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Yeah both places can be considered scary places. It would make a perfect battle. [[File:George Jones.jpg|25px]] [[User:Corrin Fan|Corrin Fan]] [[File:Walls Can Fall.jpg|25px]] 14:25, 21 January 2019 (EST)
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This one seems a little off, but nothing to directly oppose. I'm '''Neutral''' on this one. I loved both stages as a kid playin them, but while the layout is good, there's a small lack of alikeness to it. One is corny, while the other is all mysterious and sci-fi.[[User:Drakon64|<font color="forestgreen">'''Drakon'''</font><font color="seablue">'''6'''</font>]][[User talk:Drakon64|<font color="gold">'''4'''</font>]] [[File:CharizardHeadSSBB.png|19px]] 09:03, 8 January 2012 (EST)


Seems like a fun idea. [[User:Crazy456Rhino|Crazy456Rhino]] ([[User talk:Crazy456Rhino|talk]]) 13:07, April 18, 2019 (EDT)
==[[Metal Mario]] vs. [[Meta Crystal]]==
Time to compare apples to oranges! Which is more popular; the fighter or his home stage? --[[Special:Contributions/174.59.4.202|174.59.4.202]] 11:21, 8 January 2012 (EST)
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#The two are synonymous. Might as say "Tabuu vs Tabuu's residence". No merit here. [[User:Mr. Anon|<font color="grey">'''Mr. '''</font><font color="midnightblue">'''Anon'''</font>]][[File:MatchupUnknown.png|23px|link=Special:Random]][[User talk:Mr. Anon|''<span style="color: black;">talk</span>'']]  11:41, 8 January 2012 (EST)
#what....? [[User:Lucasthefourth|<span style="color:red"> :o '''Lucas'''</span>]][[User talk:Lucasthefourth|'''-IV-''']] [[Special:Contributions/Lucasthefourth|'''CREEP''']] [[Image:MCLucas.png|25px]] 12:22, 8 January 2012 (EST)
#What Anon said. '''''[[User:Dr. Pain 99|<font color=red>D<font color=#DC0000>o<font color=#A50000>c<font color=#6E0000>t<font color=#370000>o<font color=black>rP</font>a</font>i</font>n</font>9</font>9</font>]]''''' [[Special:Contributions/Dr. Pain 99|<sub>{ROLLBACKER}</sub>]] 15:12, 8 January 2012 (EST)
#Per DP99, which means per Anon. [[User:MeleeMarth01|<font color="seablue">'''MeleeMarth01'''</font>]][[User talk:MeleeMarth01|<font color="red"> ''Minna, miteite edit!''</font>]] [[File:MarthHeadSSBM.png|19px]] 17:53, 8 January 2012 (EST)
#Per MeleeMarth, which means per DP99, which means per Anon. <span style="font-family:Agency FB; font-size:12pt">[[User:BlindColours|<font color="black">'''Blind'''</font>]]</span><span style="font-family: Berlin Sans FB; font-size:12pt">[[User talk:BlindColours|<font color="red">C</font><font color="purple">ol</font>]][[ Special:Contributions/BlindColours|<font color="green">ou</font><font color="seablue">rs</font>]]</span> [[File:Boing.png|50px]] 00:13, 9 January 2012 (EST)
#C-c-c-c-combo breaker. --- <font face="American Typewriter">''[[User:ReiDemon|Rei]][[User_talk:ReiDemon|Demon]], Author Extraordinaire''</font>, 00:14, 9 January 2012 (EST)
#Urm... was this a serious suggestion? <span style="font-family:Chiller"><big><big>[[User:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:red">The</span> <span style="color:red">Solar</span> <span style="color:red">Dragon</span>]] <sup>([[User talk:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:blue">Talk</span>]] - [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon|Contribs.]])</sup></big></big></span> 14:48, 9 January 2012 (EST)
#Sorry, but this is sorta a fail.....[[User:Drakon64|<font color="forestgreen">'''Drakon'''</font><font color="seablue">'''6'''</font>]][[User talk:Drakon64|<font color="gold">'''4'''</font>]]  [[File:CharizardHeadSSBB.png|19px]] 21:37, 9 January 2012 (EST)


Giving this a vote since the current arena seriously needs to end already. Also the PM trivia is neat.<span style="font-family: Algerian"> '''[[User: supatoad64|<span style="color:blue;"> Supα Toαd 64,</span>]] [[User talk: supatoad64|<span style="color:aqua;"> The Best </span>]]''' </span> [[ Image: MK64ToadCSP.jpg|20px ]] 09:15, August 31, 2019 (EDT)
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==[[Mario]] vs. [[Ganondorf]]==
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==[[Bayonetta]] vs. [[Joker]]==
[[Mario (universe)|The Super Mario series]] and [[The Legend of Zelda (universe)|The Legend of Zelda series]] are arguably Nintendo's most played and well-known game series. But could the hero of one defeat the villain of another? ''[[User:JamesHeart123|<font color="blue">James</font>]]''[[file:Heart.JPG|15px|link=User talk:JamesHeart123]]''[[Special:Contributions/JamesHeart123|<font color="blue">123</font>]]'' 23:42, 8 January 2012 (EST)
 
Both are black clad, gun wielding, Sega owned (well, kinda for Joker), DLC fighters. But which one will come out on top? [[User:Crazy456Rhino|Crazy456Rhino]] ([[User talk:Crazy456Rhino|talk]]) 13:07, April 18, 2019 (EDT)


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* Bayonetta and Joker are extremely similar, this battle could make a difference. [[File:Derekblue1SigHead1.png|20px|link=]] [[User:Derekblue1|<span style="color:#20B2AA;">'''Derekblue1'''</span>]] [[User talk:Derekblue1|<span style="color:#20B2AA;">(talk)</span>]] [[File:Derekblue1SigHead2.png|20px|link=]] 09:54, April 15, 2020 (EDT)


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#Not much of a connection to them. <span style="font-family:Agency FB; font-size:12pt">[[User:BlindColours|<font color="black">'''Blind'''</font>]]</span><span style="font-family: Berlin Sans FB; font-size:12pt">[[User talk:BlindColours|<font color="red">C</font><font color="purple">ol</font>]][[ Special:Contributions/BlindColours|<font color="green">ou</font><font color="seablue">rs</font>]]</span> [[File:Boing.png|50px]] 00:11, 9 January 2012 (EST)
#Were u serious when u made this or did u just want to throw out a random idea like my previous suggestions?[[User:Drakon64|<font color="forestgreen">'''Drakon'''</font><font color="seablue">'''6'''</font>]][[User talk:Drakon64|<font color="gold">'''4'''</font>]]  [[File:CharizardHeadSSBB.png|19px]] 21:43, 9 January 2012 (EST)
# '''''[[User:Dr. Pain 99|<font color=red>D<font color=#DC0000>o<font color=#A50000>c<font color=#6E0000>t<font color=#370000>o<font color=black>rP</font>a</font>i</font>n</font>9</font>9</font>]]''''' [[Special:Contributions/Dr. Pain 99|<sub>{ROLLBACKER}</sub>]] 23:38, 9 January 2012 (EST)
#This doesn't make much sense. [[User:Bowzerdude|<font color="green">'''Bowzer'''</font><font color="yellow">'''dude'''</font>]][[User talk:Bowzerdude|<font color="red">'''- Pure Epicness!'''</font>]] [[File:BowserHeadSSBM.png|BowserHeadSSBM.png|19px]]  14:02, 13 January 2012 (EST)


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I thought it would be an interesting match idea; I guess there's just too little of an actual ''Smash''-connection. ''[[User:JamesHeart123|<font color="blue">James</font>]]''[[file:Heart.JPG|15px|link=User talk:JamesHeart123]]''[[Special:Contributions/JamesHeart123|<font color="blue">123</font>]]'' 23:09, 9 January 2012 (EST)


==[[Mario]] vs. [[Donkey Kong]] vs. [[Pacman]]==
==[[Wavedash]] vs. [[DACUS]]==


All three are iconic fighters who were huge hits in the early 1980s, shoot projectiles, and are great at rescuing people. But things have been bubbling around Peach since Wii U, and there is only one way to settle things. Which will get the princess? [[User:Met3oR|Met3oR]] ([[User talk:Met3oR|talk]]) 22:17, April 13, 2020
Within the competitive world of ''Melee'' and ''Brawl'', there exist one tactic from each game that are said to separate the beginners from the pros. In ''Melee'', players fumbled with shoulder buttons to perform the wavedash, while the c-stick reigned supreme for the DACUS. But which technique does the community prefer? The long dash, or the sliding attack? --- <font face="American Typewriter">''[[User:ReiDemon|Rei]][[User_talk:ReiDemon|Demon]], Author Extraordinaire''</font>, 00:20, 9 January 2012 (EST)


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===Support===
#Hey nice combination![[User:Drakon64|<font color="forestgreen">'''Drakon'''</font><font color="seablue">'''6'''</font>]][[User talk:Drakon64|<font color="gold">'''4'''</font>]]  [[File:CharizardHeadSSBB.png|19px]] 21:40, 9 January 2012 (EST)
# '''''[[User:Dr. Pain 99|<font color=red>D<font color=#DC0000>o<font color=#A50000>c<font color=#6E0000>t<font color=#370000>o<font color=black>rP</font>a</font>i</font>n</font>9</font>9</font>]]''''' [[Special:Contributions/Dr. Pain 99|<sub>{ROLLBACKER}</sub>]] 23:38, 9 January 2012 (EST)


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#Don't even know what those are. --[[Special:Contributions/174.59.4.202|174.59.4.202]] 07:34, 9 January 2012 (EST)
#A good concept, but not everyone knows what those are, and might be a difficult round for some. Plus, this fight would be hard to represent with images, needing at least need a .gif [[User:ToastUltimatum|<font color="darkorange">'''Toast'''</font>]] [[File:Wii U Logo Transparent.png|17px|link=Special:Contributions/ToastUltimatum]][[User talk:ToastUltimatum|<font color="seablue">'''ltimatum'''</font>]][[File:Transparent Swadloon.png|26px]] 11:20, 11 January 2012 (EST)


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==[[Pikachu]] vs. [[Lucas]]==
==Donkey Kong ([[75m]]) vs. [[Birdo]]==
 
Two 8-bit characters with some relations to Mario. Which is better? [[User:sonicsidekick95|<font color="blue">'''Sonic'''</font><font color="orange">'''sidekick'''</font>]][[User talk:Sonicsidekick95|<font color="blue">'''95'''</font>]] [[File:SonicHeadSSBB.png|19px]] 08:56, 10 January 2012 (EST)
Both have the power of Thor. [[User:Met3oR|Met3oR]] ([[User talk:Met3oR|talk]]) 14:38, May 09, 2020


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#I like this one.  ''[[User:JamesHeart123|<font color="blue">James</font>]]''[[file:Heart.JPG|15px|link=User talk:JamesHeart123]]''[[Special:Contributions/JamesHeart123|<font color="blue">123</font>]]'' 11:14, 10 January 2012 (EST)
#'Tis what it is. [[User:ToastUltimatum|<font color="darkorange">'''Toast'''</font>]] [[File:Wii U Logo Transparent.png|17px|link=Special:Contributions/ToastUltimatum]][[User talk:ToastUltimatum|<font color="seablue">'''ltimatum'''</font>]][[File:Transparent Swadloon.png|26px]] 11:20, 11 January 2012 (EST)
#I got no problems here. [[User:Bowzerdude|<font color="green">'''Bowzer'''</font><font color="yellow">'''dude'''</font>]][[User talk:Bowzerdude|<font color="red">'''- Pure Epicness!'''</font>]] [[File:BowserHeadSSBM.png|BowserHeadSSBM.png|19px]]  13:52, 13 January 2012 (EST)


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*Quick heads up, the wiki's Smash Arena has been discontinued in favor of the Discord server's. The suggestions should go there instead. [[User:Cookies and Creme|<span style="font-family: Georgia;color: black;">Cookies</span>]][[File:CnC Signature.png|20px]][[User talk:Cookies and Creme|<span style="font-family: Georgia; color: black;">Creme</span>]] 11:15, May 9, 2020 (EDT)

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