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{{notice|Smash Arena is now on our Discord. Please take your suggestions [https://discord.gg/XbUYjdt there].}}
This forum has the purpose of helping to select what battles will eventually take place in the [[Forum:The Smash Arena Character Battles|Smash Arena]]. If you would like to make a suggestion, please feel free to leave it here. '''''New suggestions are placed at the bottom of the page'''''. Be sure to state your reasons why you suggested it and put the support, reject, and comments sections underneath it.
 
This forum has the purpose of helping to select what battles will eventually take place in the [[Forum:Smash Arena|Smash Arena]]. If you would like to make a suggestion, please feel free to leave it here. '''''New suggestions are placed at the bottom of the page'''''. Be sure to state your reason you suggested it and put the support, reject, and comments sections underneath it.


Like the idea? Be sure to give it your support. Note that this page is not to be used for the actual voting between fighters; that happens in the Arena itself. Remember, the combatants don't necessarily have to be able to fight each other normally in Smash Bros.
Like the idea? Be sure to give it your support. Note that this page is not to be used for the actual voting between fighters; that happens in the Arena itself. Remember, the combatants don't necessarily have to be able to fight each other normally in Smash Bros.


=Rules=
=Rules=
===Posting suggestions===
*The SA operator(s) has final say over all the fights. Suggestions and comments are merely a way for the community to influence the fights.
*Sign your suggestions/votes/comments with <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> and a # in front of it (you don't necessarily have to put # in the comments sections, but you do have to sign with <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>).
*Don't vote for your own suggestion. You automatically vote for it if you suggest it.
*Do not post more than one suggestion at a time. Each user may post one suggestion per week.
*Post '''why''' you support/oppose. Don't just say "Oh, this is a cool idea". Explain why you like/don't like the fight.
*You can remove your own suggestion, but it still counts as your suggestion for that week.
*Similarily to the above, you cannot edit a suggestion once people have started to vote on it.
*Place new suggestions at '''the bottom''' of page. If you place them at the top, they may be lost.
*Do not use this page to argue with other users over their reasons and opinions. You can civilly point out an inconsistency or mistake in their description, but if you say things like "That's stupid" that could potentially start an argument in the comments, you are breaching this rule.
*The comments section is to be used for '''relevant''' comments.
*[[Forum:Smash Arena#History|Check this list]] to view the fights that have been done; currently no repeat fights are permitted.
*Suggestions are purged every time a new Smash Arena round is posted. It is at this time they are either accepted and placed into the queue, or they are rejected.
*In the vein of the above, do not repost a suggestion of yours that has been removed, since it's either already lined up or been rejected. Reposting it after time has passed is generally a bad idea, since if it's already in the queue it's a waste of time, and if it was rejected the first time chances are it will remain that way. See the Queue section for an idea of how long it may take for your suggestion to show up.
*Only Smash Bros.-related fights are permitted. Fights don't have to be between playable characters, but the combatants must have appeared in at least one Smash Bros. game.
*Only Smash Bros.-related fights are permitted. Fights don't have to be between playable characters, but the combatants must have appeared in at least one Smash Bros. game.
**Outside very specific circumstances, no fights are allowed between combatants that only appear in a game (or a batch of downloadable content) that has yet to be released.
*If there are already 10 open suggestions, you should probably reconsider adding a new one. If there are 15, it is highly recommended you do not. There is no limit to the number of open suggestions, but having too many clutters the page and makes it more difficult to keep track of.
*[[SmashWiki:Smash Arena#History|Check this list]] to view the fights that have been done. Repeat fights are permitted if they occurred '''100 or more rounds ago'''. As matchups over 100 rounds ago are moved off that particular list, the list is the definitive source on what can't be repeated. Note that repeats close to this cutoff may still be valid if the queue is full enough that the fight's acceptance will allow it to be outside the 100-round zone.
*Do not post more than one suggestion at a time. Each user may post '''one suggestion per week''' (i.e. one every seven days).
*'''Sign your suggestions/votes/comments with <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> and a # in front of it''' (you don't necessarily have to put # in the comments sections, but you do have to sign with <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>).
*Place new suggestions at '''the bottom''' of the page.
*You can retract and remove your own suggestion, but it still counts as your suggestion for that week.
**If your suggestion is removed because it's invalid or because your week isn't up, it doesn't count as your suggestion for that week. That said, users who constantly post invalid or rapid-fire suggestions may be suspended from suggesting for a few weeks, and may risk [[SW:PROB|probation]].
*Similarly to the above, you cannot edit a suggestion once people have started to vote on it. Editing the description is fine, just don't alter the combatants.
===Voting and comments===
*Don't vote on your own suggestion.
*Post '''why''' you support/oppose. Don't just say, "Oh, this is a cool idea". Explain why you like/don't like the fight. This is not required but adds credence to your opinion - remember, suggestions are not accepted or rejected based on a simple vote count.
*The comments section is to be used for relevant comments only.
*Do not use this page to argue with other users over their reasons and opinions. You can civilly point out an inconsistency or mistake in their description, but if you say things like, "That's stupid", that could potentially start an argument in the comments, you are breaching this rule.
*'''Do not make this page into the Smash Arena itself.''' This is for deciding what goes there, not voting on the winner.
===Acceptance or rejection===
*'''The SA operator(s) has final say over all the fights.''' Suggestions and comments are merely a way for the community to influence the fights, and can be used, edited, or ignored at the operator(s)'s discretion.
*Acceptance of fights is not based simply on votes. The votes are used to judge the community's opinion of the matchup; again it is solely the operator(s)'s decision on what the bouts are.
*Acceptance of fights is not based simply on votes. The votes are used to judge the community's opinion of the matchup; again it is solely the operator(s)'s decision on what the bouts are.
*Suggestions are purged every time a new Smash Arena round is posted. It is at this time they are either accepted and placed into the queue, or they are rejected. Not all suggestions are purged at once - only those that are both older than the rest and have higher vote counts. Usually suggestions need at least 5 votes to be decided upon, unless they are very old.
*If there are already 10 open suggestions, you should probably reconsider adding a new one. If there are 15, is is highly recommended you do not. There is no limit to the number of open suggestions, but having too many clutters the page and makes it more difficult to keep track of.
**In the vein of the above, do not repost a suggestion of yours that has been removed recently, since it's either already lined up or been rejected. See the Queue section for an idea of how long it may take for your suggestion to show up.
*And finally, '''do not make this page into the Smash Arena itself.''' This is for deciding what goes there, not voting on which would win.
*If a suggestion of yours has been rejected in the past, you may repost it three months (90 days) after its rejection. However, it is unlikely for a rejected suggestion to be accepted in the future, so it is likely more productive to suggest something else.
*Descriptions are not guaranteed to be included as-is should a suggestion pass.
 
=Tips=
*In most cases, the combatants of a match should share similarities but have key differences. However, matchups between total opposites are also interesting. Avoid the middle ground where combatants have little in common but are also not polar opposites.
*Protagonist vs. antagonist matches (e.g. Mario vs. Bowser) are valid, and many of them succeed in the arena, but are usually pushed aside by the community in favour of matchups that are less "obvious". Matchups born from in-game events (e.g. Subspace Emissary groupings) or matchups that are big in their home universes but not necessarily in Smash Bros. (e.g. legendary Pokémon fights) tend to fall into this as well.
*While rematches are valid once 100 rounds have passed, do not expect much enthusiasm for them unless the original match was very close or a tie.
*Regular matches (one-on-one) are favoured far more than three-way fights. If you have an idea for a three-way fight, see if one of the three combatants is really necessary, and try to get it down to two. Fights of more than three participants have to be sock-knocking genius in order to be even considered, so unless you're convinced it will be very popular, turn your efforts to something else.
*The description can sway peoples' opinions of a matchup. While the most interesting suggestions can be accepted on their own merits, those in the middle can be made or broken by how you present them.


=Queue=
=Queue=
The current queue is as such:
The current queue is as such:
{{SA Queue}}
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|style="background:#ffffff;border:none"|<span class="explain" title="current round">'''65'''</span>
When the queue becomes full (all the grey spots are filled up), suggestions will be suspended. You may continue to vote on current suggestions, but no more may be proposed. Once the queue drains out to a size of one, suggestions will be re-opened.
|style="background:#ff00d2;border:none"|<span class="explain" title="24/12/10">66</span>
|style="background:#00ff40;border:none"|<span class="explain" title="31/12/10">67</span>
|style="background:#ffac00;border:none"|<span class="explain" title="07/01/11">68</span>
|style="background:#00ff40;border:none"|<span class="explain" title="14/01/11">69</span>
|style="background:#8000ff;border:none"|<span class="explain" title="21/01/11">70</span>
|style="background:#ff0060;border:none"|<span class="explain" title="28/01/11">71</span>
|style="background:#ff3900;border:none"|<span class="explain" title="04/02/11">72</span>
|style="background:#dfff00;border:none"|<span class="explain" title="11/02/11">73</span>
|style="background:#ffffff;border:none"|<span class="explain" title="18/02/11; earliest possible suggestion slot">''74''</span>
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The queue is not set in stone; new suggestions may appear before older ones and it may change at any time. The queue attempts to balance out fights so that specific participants or universes aren't used too much in a short time.
When the queue gets too long, suggestions will be suspended. You may continue to vote on current suggestions, but no more may be proposed. Once the queue drains out suggestions will be re-opened.


The contents of the queue are a secret to maintain mystery and intrigue.
The contents of the queue are a secret to maintain mystery and intrigue.
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=Show Your Support=
=Show Your Support=
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[[Template:SA Box|<code><nowiki>{{SA Box}}</nowiki></code>]] - Smash Arena userbox; originally by [[User:Squallinoa_08|Squallinoa 08]], modified by [[User:Toomai|Toomai]]. If you wish, place it on your user page. It will tell you the new fights as they happen.
[[Template:SA Box|<code><nowiki>{{SA Box}}</nowiki></code>]] - Smash Arena userbox; originally by [[User:Squallinoa_08|Squallinoa 08]], modified by [[User:Toomai|Toomai]]. If you wish, place it on your user page. It will tell you the new fights as they happen.
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<description of fight, maybe a few reasons why you think it would be a good matchup> ~~~~


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==[[Rosalina]] vs. [[Bowser Jr.]]==
==Groudon vs. Kyogre==


Two of the newest characters from the ''Mario'' universe makes it into ''SSB4''. Both have chargeable projectiles which stop dead upon hit. Who will rule 21st century ''Mario''? [[:User:ZeldaStarfoxfan2164|ZeldaStarfoxfan2164]] ([[User talk:ZeldaStarfoxfan2164|talk]]) is a never lover boy  22:00, 9 December 2017 (EST)
In the aincient times, these two gods battled it out to decide the fate of the world. Now as they reawaken, who will dominate? [[User:Altaria|Altaria]] ([[User talk:Altaria|talk]]) 21:28, 17 December 2010 (EST)


===Support===
===Support===
I think it has an interesting idea behind it. It has my vote! [[User:Crazy456Rhino|Crazy456Rhino]] ([[User talk:Crazy456Rhino|talk]]) 15:41, 22 March 2018 (EDT)
Sounds like fun! Let's try it! [[User:Dragonfirebreath25|Dragonfirebreath25]] ([[User talk:Dragonfirebreath25|talk]]) 07:33, 23 March 2018 (EDT)
I agree with Crazy Rhino. It's interesting. Why not. Blueflame105
Kind of an obvious one. [[User:TheNuttyOne|TheNuttyOne]] 14:50, 7 June 2018 (EDT)


===Oppose===
===Oppose===
#So original -_-<span style="font-family:Forte">[[User:Megatron1|<span style="color:maroon">Mega</span>]][[User talk:Megatron1|<span style="color:silver">Tron1</span>]][[User:Megatron1/Laughology|<span style="color:blue">XD</span>]]</span>[[File:Decepticon.png|19px|:p]] 22:27, 17 December 2010 (EST)
#Unoriginal. ☆<span style="font-family:Algerian">[[User:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:green">The</span>]] [[User talk:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:red">Solar</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon|<span style="color:blue">Dragon</span>]]</span>☆ 08:22, 18 December 2010 (EST)
#For the same reasons why the Palkia vs. Dialga match was opposed. Plus, their effects as pokeball pokemon in ''Brawl'' don't have any notable similarities or differences, along with a vast difference in their effectiveness as pokeball pokemon (while Kyogre is arguably the best pokeball pokemon, Groudon is one of the least effective legendaries). While this would be an obvious matchup in a Smash Arena equivalent in a Pokemon Wiki, it doesn't really fit well in a Smash Bros. Wiki imo. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[Image: TyranitarMS.png ]] 09:05, 18 December 2010 (EST)
#Way too original. Sure, there's original, but sometimes you can go too far with it.-[[User:Ivy73|<span style="color:forestgreen">Ivy</span>]][[User talk:Ivy73|<span style="color:blue">73</span>]][[File:002MS.png]] 10:50, 18 December 2010 (EST)


===Comments===
===Comments===
How abotu Kyogre vs Groudon vs Rayquaza? ''[[User:HavocReaper48|<span style="color:DeepSkyBlue ;">havoC--</span>]]'' 13:18, 18 December 2010 (EST)
:No as Rayquaza is a boss and the others are Pokeball Pokemon. ☆<span style="font-family:Algerian">[[User:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:green">The</span>]] [[User talk:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:red">Solar</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon|<span style="color:blue">Dragon</span>]]</span>☆ 09:22, 19 December 2010 (EST)
::There's nothing that says a boss character can't compete with characters who aren't bosses themselves in the Smash Arena. While I have no opinion yet on the propose matchup above, we would be unnecessarily limiting the Smash Arena matchups if we only allowed matchups between two characters of the same class. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[Image: TyranitarMS.png ]] 09:46, 19 December 2010 (EST)
:::Fine, another view. Rayquaza is the trio master and can control the other two. It is an unfair fight really as it is stated in the games that he can basically force them to do things. ☆<span style="font-family:Algerian">[[User:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:green">The</span>]] [[User talk:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:red">Solar</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon|<span style="color:blue">Dragon</span>]]</span>☆ 10:35, 19 December 2010 (EST)
::::Smash Arena is a popularity contest, in game descriptions are meaningless :p (plus, both Kyogre and Groudon have the capability to OHKO Rayquaza in the Pokemon games, with a BST only 10 points lower. So if you were to consider their actual battle capabilities, it isn't anywhere close to one sided in Rayquaza's favor). <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[Image: TyranitarMS.png ]] 10:54, 19 December 2010 (EST)


==[[Bowser]] vs. [[Bowser Jr.]]==
==Fox vs. Falco==
It's the battle of the Koopas! The Koopa King and the Koopa Prince are a royal duo. Who will rule this Koopa brawl between two ''Mario'' universe enemies? [[User:Dragonfirebreath25|Dragonfirebreath25]] ([[User talk:Dragonfirebreath25|talk]]) 07:49, 23 March 2018 (EDT)
 
Yeah the leader and original fighter versus the semi-clone who's better. [[User:T.testLP|T.testLP]]<small>[[User Talk:T.testLP|The Communicator]]|[[Special:Contributions/T.testLP|The...Whatever]][[File:GanondorfHead.png|20px]]Ganondorf da bess!</small> 22:16, 17 December 2010 (EST)


===Support===
===Support===
It would be en epic koopa battle. [[:User:ZeldaStarfoxfan2164|ZeldaStarfoxfan2164]] ([[User talk:ZeldaStarfoxfan2164|talk]]) is a never lover boy  19:59, 9 May 2018 (EDT)
#Unless Toomai already has this planned out, it should happen at some point.<span style="font-family:Forte">[[User:Megatron1|<span style="color:maroon">Mega</span>]][[User talk:Megatron1|<span style="color:silver">Tron1</span>]][[User:Megatron1/Laughology|<span style="color:blue">XD</span>]]</span>[[File:Decepticon.png|19px|:p]] 22:27, 17 December 2010 (EST)
 
#We haven't had this? Seriously? [[User:Reflex|<span style="color: blue;">Re</span>]][[User talk:Reflex|<span style="color: green;">fl</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Reflex|<span style="color: red;">ex</span>]] 08:00, 18 December 2010 (EST)
Sure, why not? [[User:TheNuttyOne|TheNuttyOne]] 14:50, 7 June 2018 (EDT)
#Surely this has been done before? Such an obvious fight that should have happened. ☆<span style="font-family:Algerian">[[User:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:green">The</span>]] [[User talk:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:red">Solar</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon|<span style="color:blue">Dragon</span>]]</span>☆ 08:22, 18 December 2010 (EST)
#Surprised this hasn't been done already. [[Special:Contributions/110.174.90.69|110.174.90.69]] 10:40, 18 December 2010 (EST)
#Per everyone else, surprised this isn't done. ''[[User:HavocReaper48|<span style="color:DeepSkyBlue ;">havoC--</span>]]'' 13:18, 18 December 2010 (EST)
#Which shall i choose? [[Special:Contributions/98.20.68.247|98.20.68.247]] 13:59, 18 December 2010 (EST)
#definitely,i cant believe it hasnt been done already[[User:Gig|Gig]] ([[User talk:Gig|talk]]) 14:27, 18 December 2010 (EST)
#I was going to suggest this, so I have to support it. They must be competed!!![[User:Zeezow|Zeegamer]] ([[User talk:Zeezow|talk]]) 08:50, 19 December 2010 (EST)
#This HAS to be done at one point. -[[User:Brawlingbrian|<span style="color:green">Brawlingbrian</span>]][[Image:FalcoHead.png|20px]][[User talk:Brawlingbrian|<span style="color:cerulean">LAND</span><span style="color:orange">MASTER!</span>]] 13:38, 19 December 2010 (EST)
#It is rather peculiar that this hasn't been done yet...-[[User:Ivy73|<span style="color:forestgreen">Ivy</span>]][[User talk:Ivy73|<span style="color:blue">73</span>]][[File:002MS.png]] 14:43, 19 December 2010 (EST)


===Oppose===
===Oppose===
I don't know. This seems kind of obvious. I don't think they're different enough. You're entitled to your opinion though. Blueflame105


===Comments===
===Comments===
Uhm, was the ALL CAPS for the intro necessary? That alone makes me feel like opposing this... <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[Image: TyranitarMS.png ]] 09:22, 18 December 2010 (EST)


==[[Villager]] vs. [[Rosalina]]==
Is this for Melee or for Brawl? [[User:Doc King|Doc King]] ([[User talk:Doc King|talk]]) 15:52, 21 December 2010 (EST)
:New description is much better, and to answer Doc, it doesn't matter. Unless specified, it covers all games. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[Image: TyranitarMS.png ]] 12:36, 22 December 2010 (EST)


Both characters are fun and have a special move that can negate most projectiles (Pocket and Gravitational Pull, respectively) and are both fairly new. Both are newcomers. Who would win? What do you think? [[Special:Contributions/72.133.91.93|72.133.91.93]] 16:02, 9 May 2018 (EDT)Blueflame105 3:01, March 9 2018 (American Central Time)
==Bumper vs. Flipper==
One bumps people away when they come in contact with it. The other, uhm... flips people away who come in contact with it. Both highly similar in function, but unable to coexist in the same Smash Bros. game. Which of these indiscriminate obstacle items is the superior and more annoying anti-approach item? <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[Image: TyranitarMS.png ]] 09:22, 18 December 2010 (EST)


===Support===
===Support===
A great battle for me so, let's give that a try! [[User:Dragonfirebreath25|Dragonfirebreath25]] ([[User talk:Dragonfirebreath25|talk]]) 12:15, 10 May 2018 (EDT)
#Though in ''SSBM'', a Bumper does exist.--<span style="font-family:Forte">[[User:Megatron1|<span style="color:maroon">Mega</span>]][[User talk:Megatron1|<span style="color:silver">Tron1</span>]][[User:Megatron1/Laughology|<span style="color:blue">XD</span>]]</span>[[File:Decepticon.png|19px|:p]] 10:08, 18 December 2010 (EST)
 
#A unique idea for a fight. I like it. [[Special:Contributions/110.174.90.69|110.174.90.69]] 10:41, 18 December 2010 (EST)
This is a great idea. Has my support. YoshisaurusThe9th
#Excellent idea. Two of the most annoying items in Smash history going up against each other.-[[User:Ivy73|<span style="color:forestgreen">Ivy</span>]][[User talk:Ivy73|<span style="color:blue">73</span>]][[File:002MS.png]] 10:44, 18 December 2010 (EST)
#Another item V item match. Yes. ☆<span style="font-family:Algerian">[[User:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:green">The</span>]] [[User talk:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:red">Solar</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon|<span style="color:blue">Dragon</span>]]</span>☆ 11:05, 18 December 2010 (EST)
# Though I think it's kinda one-sided, sure. ''[[User:HavocReaper48|<span style="color:DeepSkyBlue ;">havoC--</span>]]'' 13:18, 18 December 2010 (EST)


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===Oppose===
I don't really get the connection. [[User:TheNuttyOne|TheNuttyOne]] 14:50, 7 June 2018 (EDT)
#item matches are boring,lets save the items,stages and all those out of the box matches for after all the fighters are done[[User:Gig|Gig]] ([[User talk:Gig|talk]]) 14:27, 18 December 2010 (EST)
 
#Too casual and noobish! [[User:Doc King|Doc King]] ([[User talk:Doc King|talk]]) 15:57, 21 December 2010 (EST)
===Comments===


==[[Koopalings|Wendy]] vs. [[Lucina]]==
===Comment===
Heh, Doc being a stop having fun guy in the Smash Arena. The Smash Arena is a popularity contest, it doesn't adhere to tournament rules. Therefore, items are fair game :p <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[Image: TyranitarMS.png ]] 22:03, 21 December 2010 (EST)


The only unlockable females in the series. One fights to repair the future, the other fights to take over the world. One is driven and kind, the other is bratty and vicious. Which one reigns supreme? [[User:TheNuttyOne|TheNuttyOne]] 14:50, 7 June 2018 (EDT)
==Mario vs. Mr. Game and Watch==
Two most classic Nintendo characters. Both were starting in 2D games, and both found a place in gaming history. But who will win, the flat black man or heroic plumber? [[User:UilMash|UilMash]] ([[User talk:UilMash|talk]]) 10:00, 18 December 2010 (EST)


===Support===
===Support===
A nice matchup in my favor. [[User:Dragonfirebreath25|Dragonfirebreath25]] ([[User talk:Dragonfirebreath25|talk]]) 16:36, 7 June 2018 (EDT)
#I don't see why this wouldn't work. [[Special:Contributions/110.174.90.69|110.174.90.69]] 10:42, 18 December 2010 (EST)
#Hmm... I guess so. ☆<span style="font-family:Algerian">[[User:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:green">The</span>]] [[User talk:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:red">Solar</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon|<span style="color:blue">Dragon</span>]]</span>☆ 11:05, 18 December 2010 (EST)
#I like the idea of iconic representatives of their respective series and of Nintendo duking it out [[User:Welikeikeandfoxes|Welikeikeandfoxes]] ([[User talk:Welikeikeandfoxes|talk]]) 12:59, 18 December 2010 (EST)
#BEEP. BEEP. BEEP. ''[[User:HavocReaper48|<span style="color:DeepSkyBlue ;">havoC--</span>]]'' 13:18, 18 December 2010 (EST)
#meh i feel like mario would win easy but i dont see a reason why not[[User:Gig|Gig]] ([[User talk:Gig|talk]]) 14:27, 18 December 2010 (EST)
#One aided in saving the home console in North America, while the other was the progenitor of handheld systems. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[Image: TyranitarMS.png ]] 11:34, 19 December 2010 (EST)
#Nice, interesting idea in my opinion. [[Special:Contributions/86.152.206.96|86.152.206.96]] 09:39, 20 December 2010 (EST)
#Mama Beep! <span style="font-family:Forte">[[User:Megatron1|<span style="color:maroon">Mega</span>]][[User talk:Megatron1|<span style="color:silver">Tron1</span>]][[User:Megatron1/Laughology|<span style="color:blue">XD</span>]]</span>[[File:Decepticon.png|19px|:p]] 10:47, 21 December 2010 (EST)
#Why not? [[User:Doc King|Doc King]] ([[User talk:Doc King|talk]]) 15:57, 21 December 2010 (EST)
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Just no. Please no. Also, Wendy isn't unlockable in for Wii U, and neither is Lucina, so that's driven entirely from the 3DS version, right? [[Special:Contributions/72.133.91.93|72.133.91.93]] 12:03, 8 June 2018 (EDT) Blueflame105


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==[[Lakitu & Spinies]] vs. [[Hammer Bro.]]==
==Pikachu vs. Pichu==
 
Two representatives from the same series, but one of them had to leave. One mascot, one mascot's little brother. Which one will prevail? A classic case of sibling rivalry! [[User:Welikeikeandfoxes|Welikeikeandfoxes]] ([[User talk:Welikeikeandfoxes|talk]]) 12:56, 18 December 2010 (EST)
Two [[Assist Trophies]] from the ''Mario'' series. One throws Spinies, the other throws hammers. Which one is your favorite? [[User:Dragonfirebreath25|Dragonfirebreath25]] ([[User talk:Dragonfirebreath25|talk]]) 16:36, 7 June 2018 (EDT)


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It's a cool idea, so I'll support this. I would definitely vote for Hammer Bro. though. I hate going up against Lakitu. [[Special:Contributions/72.133.91.93|72.133.91.93]] 12:04, 8 June 2018 (EDT)Blueflame105
#Gerbil fight! ''[[User:HavocReaper48|<span style="color:DeepSkyBlue ;">havoC--</span>]]'' 13:18, 18 December 2010 (EST)
#why not[[User:Gig|Gig]] ([[User talk:Gig|talk]]) 14:27, 18 December 2010 (EST)
# wHy did pichu must leave :*( I loved him. This match would be a hard one with both having similar moves and techniques[[User:Zeezow|Zeegamer]] ([[User talk:Zeezow|talk]]) 08:56, 19 December 2010 (EST)
#Yeah, why not. ☆<span style="font-family:Algerian">[[User:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:green">The</span>]] [[User talk:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:red">Solar</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon|<span style="color:blue">Dragon</span>]]</span>☆ 14:35, 19 December 2010 (EST)


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Rematches are uninteresting in general, especially now that we're going to have 5 ''Smash'' games and now, there are more ''Mario'' based assists. [[:User:ZeldaStarfoxfan2164|ZeldaStarfoxfan2164]] ([[User talk:ZeldaStarfoxfan2164|talk]]) is a never lover boy  23:43, 21 July 2018 (EDT)
#NFE will fail against the evolved version.<span style="font-family:Forte">[[User:Megatron1|<span style="color:maroon">Mega</span>]][[User talk:Megatron1|<span style="color:silver">Tron1</span>]][[User:Megatron1/Laughology|<span style="color:blue">XD</span>]]</span>[[File:Decepticon.png|19px|:p]] 16:19, 18 December 2010 (EST)
#I'm not of the opinion that just because two characters are "clones" or "semi-clones", they'll make a good SA matchup. I'm against this as it's simply a matchup between one character and a clone that could be considered an inferior version. This matchup is pretty bland to me and I wouldn't have much interest in voting in it. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[Image: TyranitarMS.png ]] 11:34, 19 December 2010 (EST)
#Without Insane Crazy Guy, this battle would be kind of boring. [[User:Doc King|Doc King]] ([[User talk:Doc King|talk]]) 15:57, 21 December 2010 (EST)
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Not saying it couldn't happen as it was more than 100 matches ago, but discovered this same matchup with their Brawl incarnations in the archives. While I do like this matchup and fully support it, it does say you aren't likely to get a repeat unless people really want a different result or it was a tie. [[Special:Contributions/72.133.91.93|72.133.91.93]] 19:06, 6 July 2018 (EDT)Blueflame105


==[[Mario Circuit (SSB4)]] vs. [[Rainbow Road]]==
==Charizard vs. Ivysaur vs. Squirtle==
 
The three of the Pokémon Trainer's Pokémon battle it out to decide who is the best. (Not sure if this will work but after seeing Round 64, it could. ☆<span style="font-family:Algerian">[[User:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:green">The</span>]] [[User talk:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:red">Solar</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon|<span style="color:blue">Dragon</span>]]</span>☆ 14:08, 18 December 2010 (EST)
3, 2, 1... GO! Two stages from ''{{iw|mariowiki|Mario Kart|series}}'' battle it out in a race to the finish. One is from ''{{s|mariowiki|Mario Kart 8}}'' and ''{{s|mariowiki|Mario Kart 8 Deluxe}}'', the other is from ''{{s|mariowiki|Mario Kart 7}}''. Who will take the checkered flag in this match? [[User:Dragonfirebreath25|Dragonfirebreath25]] ([[User talk:Dragonfirebreath25|talk]]) 01:10, 17 June 2018 (EDT)


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Great Idea in my opinion.
#seems like a good idea,lets find out which starter pokemon is the peoples favorite[[User:Gig|Gig]] ([[User talk:Gig|talk]]) 14:29, 18 December 2010 (EST)
[[User: CaptainDabsalot|CaptainDabsalot]] Or [[User Talk: CaptainDabsalot|The SavageCow]] 6/22/18 11:04 CST
#At least the type matchup isn't fixed.<span style="font-family:Forte">[[User:Megatron1|<span style="color:maroon">Mega</span>]][[User talk:Megatron1|<span style="color:silver">Tron1</span>]][[User:Megatron1/Laughology|<span style="color:blue">XD</span>]]</span>[[File:Decepticon.png|19px|:p]] 16:19, 18 December 2010 (EST)
 
#I like the idea of having fights with more than two fighters occasionally. [[Special:Contributions/110.174.90.69|110.174.90.69]] 11:12, 19 December 2010 (EST)
[[:User:ZeldaStarfoxfan2164|ZeldaStarfoxfan2164]] ([[User talk:ZeldaStarfoxfan2164|talk]]) is a never lover boy  23:43, 21 July 2018 (EDT)
#Finding out which of the Pokemon Trainer's pokemon is most popular is a SA matchup I'm heavily interested in. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[Image: TyranitarMS.png ]] 11:34, 19 December 2010 (EST)
#Yep, it's a pretty good idea. --[[User:UilMash|UilMash]] ([[User talk:UilMash|talk]]) 11:38, 19 December 2010 (EST)
#The fight of the comrades.-[[User:Ivy73|<span style="color:forestgreen">Ivy</span>]][[User talk:Ivy73|<span style="color:blue">73</span>]][[File:002MS.png]] 16:58, 19 December 2010 (EST)
#That's PERFECT! Why didn't I think of that?--[[User:Altaria|Altaria]] ([[User talk:Altaria|talk]]) 19:40, 20 December 2010 (EST)
#Good idea [[User:Doc King|Doc King]] ([[User talk:Doc King|talk]]) 15:57, 21 December 2010 (EST)
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#lets make this the last round with more than two contestants,the last match was way too one sided considering the large amount of options,it was quite disheartening[[User:Gig|Gig]] ([[User talk:Gig|talk]]) 14:29, 18 December 2010 (EST)


==[[Daisy]] vs. [[Inkling]] vs. [[Ridley]]==
==Mario vs. Wario==
 
Nintendo superstar vs his evil counterpart gone anti hero[[User:Gig|Gig]] ([[User talk:Gig|talk]]) 14:27, 18 December 2010 (EST)
The first three newcomers announced for SSBU. Which noob gets the most hype? ...Wait a second... [[Forum:Smash_Arena/Archive_40#Villager_vs._Wii_Fit_Trainer_vs._Mega_Man|hasn't something like this been done before?]] [[User:infernape612|<span style="color:orange">infernape]][[User talk:infernape612|<span style="color:orange">612</span>]]</span> 20:17, 21 July 2018 (EDT)


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I mean... yeah. [[User:TheNuttyOne|TheNuttyOne]] 20:42, 21 July 2018 (EDT)
#cool must go with this, great idea. The main hero against his stupid antagonaist WARIO NUMBUH ONE :D.[[User:Zeezow|Zeegamer]] ([[User talk:Zeezow|talk]]) 09:20, 19 December 2010 (EST)
#Surprised this hasn't been done. [[Special:Contributions/110.174.90.69|110.174.90.69]] 11:12, 19 December 2010 (EST)
#I guess it might work. ☆<span style="font-family:Algerian">[[User:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:green">The</span>]] [[User talk:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:red">Solar</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon|<span style="color:blue">Dragon</span>]]</span>☆ 14:35, 19 December 2010 (EST)
#Would probably work. [[User:Doc King|Doc King]] ([[User talk:Doc King|talk]]) 15:57, 21 December 2010 (EST)
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#Very original :/<span style="font-family:Forte">[[User:Megatron1|<span style="color:maroon">Mega</span>]][[User talk:Megatron1|<span style="color:silver">Tron1</span>]][[User:Megatron1/Laughology|<span style="color:blue">XD</span>]]</span>[[File:Decepticon.png|19px|:p]] 16:19, 18 December 2010 (EST)


ABSOLUTELY! Ultimate looks really good. Counting down the days till December 9th..... [[Special:Contributions/72.133.91.93|72.133.91.93]] 22:30, 21 July 2018 (EDT)Blueflame105
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The only time such matchup is valid. [[:User:ZeldaStarfoxfan2164|ZeldaStarfoxfan2164]] ([[User talk:ZeldaStarfoxfan2164|talk]]) is a never lover boy  23:43, 21 July 2018 (EDT)
==Diddy Kong vs Luigi==
Both sidekicks, have had their buddies kidnapped before on various occasions, and have few games dedicated to each other. Both fan favorites with clearly not enough attention given to them. ''[[User:HavocReaper48|<span style="color:DeepSkyBlue ;">havoC--</span>]]'' 15:32, 18 December 2010 (EST)


Love it! That one is going to be awesome! [[User:Dragonfirebreath25|Dragonfirebreath25]] ([[User talk:Dragonfirebreath25|talk]]) 13:07, 29 July 2018 (EDT)
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#No Mario :D<span style="font-family:Forte">[[User:Megatron1|<span style="color:maroon">Mega</span>]][[User talk:Megatron1|<span style="color:silver">Tron1</span>]][[User:Megatron1/Laughology|<span style="color:blue">XD</span>]]</span>[[File:Decepticon.png|19px|:p]] 16:19, 18 December 2010 (EST)
#I like.-[[User:Ivy73|<span style="color:forestgreen">Ivy</span>]][[User talk:Ivy73|<span style="color:blue">73</span>]][[File:002MS.png]] 16:39, 18 December 2010 (EST)
#I love them both than the main characters (mrio,Dk) Diddy is awesome such as luigi.[[User:Zeezow|Zeegamer]] ([[User talk:Zeezow|talk]]) 09:12, 19 December 2010 (EST)
#It's similar to the Diddy Kong vs Falco one but still a good idea. [[Special:Contributions/110.174.90.69|110.174.90.69]] 11:12, 19 December 2010 (EST)
#It would work. Yes. ☆<span style="font-family:Algerian">[[User:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:green">The</span>]] [[User talk:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:red">Solar</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon|<span style="color:blue">Dragon</span>]]</span>☆ 14:35, 19 December 2010 (EST)


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#Hmm, I'm not really interested in this. Outside of Galaxy, Luigi isn't a sidekick. I also don't agree with Diddy Kong not getting enough attention unlike Luigi. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[Image: TyranitarMS.png ]] 11:34, 19 December 2010 (EST)
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==Deoxys vs Suicune==
==[[Kirby (SSB4)|Kirby]] Vs. [[Jigglypuff (SSB4)| Jigglypuff]]==
Two legendary Pokemon from different generations, but both have good effects and are very powerful. Who will dominate, the aqua canine or the alien mutant? -[[User:Brawlingbrian|<span style="color:green">Brawlingbrian</span>]][[Image:FalcoHead.png|20px]] [[User talk:Brawlingbrian|<span style="color:cerulean">LAND</span><span style="color:orange">MASTER!</span>]] 20:00, 18 December 2010 (EST)  
 
Pink. Puffy. Powerful. Wait, which one am I talking about? It's pink puffball on pink puffball in this puffball brawl. Both are floaty, pink, and overall competitively useless! Both of their up specials can hinder their recoveries, but can jump a lot (maybe too much) so it's all good. It's the ULTIMATE BATTLE! What's that? You say it's not? Well then, [[Kirby]] or [[Jigglypuff]]. [[Special:Contributions/72.133.91.93|72.133.91.93]] 08:53, 22 July 2018 (EDT)Blueflame105


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#While both pokemon aren't similar in look or in the Pokemon games, as pokeball pokemon, they do have notable similarities and key differences. Both are among four pokemon who can OHKO in ''Brawl'', and they both attack via beam. Then when you compare the functioning of their beam attacks, they have some key differences. Suicune hits once, is completed very quickly, and traverses the whole screen horizontally. Deoxys' hits multiple times, takes more than a few seconds to be completed, and traverses the whole screen vertically. With these key similarities and differences, I fully support this matchup. This is imo, the most interesting matchup proposed among the current suggestions. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[Image: TyranitarMS.png ]] 11:34, 19 December 2010 (EST)
#What OT said. :p ☆<span style="font-family:Algerian">[[User:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:green">The</span>]] [[User talk:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:red">Solar</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon|<span style="color:blue">Dragon</span>]]</span>☆ 12:02, 19 December 2010 (EST)
#Let's fire lasers!<span style="font-family:Forte">[[User:Megatron1|<span style="color:maroon">Mega</span>]][[User talk:Megatron1|<span style="color:silver">Tron1</span>]][[User:Megatron1/Laughology|<span style="color:blue">XD</span>]]</span>[[File:Decepticon.png|19px|:p]] 20:21, 19 December 2010 (EST)
# This will be interesting. I'll love to see how this turns out.--[[User:Altaria|Altaria]] ([[User talk:Altaria|talk]]) 19:46, 20 December 2010 (EST)


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This match was already done in a lopsided result. Also I noticed that much of your contributions have been Smash Arena related and we're currently on a Red wiki status and spending to much time in the Smash Arena without contributing to the mainspace can result in an IP block (or probation if you're a registered user). [[:User:ZeldaStarfoxfan2164|ZeldaStarfoxfan2164]] ([[User talk:ZeldaStarfoxfan2164|talk]]) is bad for me  18:52, 23 July 2018 (EDT)
# I love pokemon and legendary pokemon indeed but those 2 have no similarities one is a canine and the other is an alien!?!?!?[[User:Zeezow|Zeegamer]] ([[User talk:Zeezow|talk]]) 09:22, 19 December 2010 (EST)
 
#Don't really see how these two pokemon have anything in common. [[Special:Contributions/110.174.90.69|110.174.90.69]] 11:12, 19 December 2010 (EST)
#Idems suck! [[User:Doc King|Doc King]] ([[User talk:Doc King|talk]]) 15:57, 21 December 2010 (EST)
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I apologize. I was not aware of this, and will refrain from doing Smash Arena things, at least until wiki status lowers. I have been attempting tobe more helpful on the wiki, but overall, I'm not good at it. [[Special:Contributions/72.133.91.93|72.133.91.93]] 22:51, 25 July 2018 (EDT)Blueflame105
==[[Cloud Strife]] Vs. [[Solid Snake]]==
While these two super soldiers are largely considered Playstation classics, they've found there way into Nintendo's big crossover. Both may take some stuff through cloning (Cloud has Zack's memories and abilities, Snake is a literal clone of Big Boss) but who comes out on top? Btw, they're both relatively mature for Nintendo titles --[[User:Myth|<font color="orange">'''Myth'''</font>]] [[File:Myth Kirby.png|19px|link=User talk:Myth]] 21:19, 11 August 2018 (EDT)
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I nearly removed this suggestion because I thought it involved an ''Ultimate'' character, then I found out Cloud was in ''SSB4''. [[:User:ZeldaStarfoxfan2164|ZeldaStarfoxfan2164]] ([[User talk:ZeldaStarfoxfan2164|talk]]) is a never lover boy  22:42, 11 August 2018 (EDT)
They are great characters in both ''Smash 4'' and ''Ultimate'' so, let's do it! By the way, Cloud's debut game is ''Final Fantasy VII'', while ''Metal Gear Solid'' is Snake's first game. [[User:Dragonfirebreath25|Dragonfirebreath25]] ([[User talk:Dragonfirebreath25|talk]]) 15:23, 23 August 2018 (EDT)
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==[[Battlefield]] Vs. [[Big Battlefield]]==
Pretty simple idea. Battlefield vs its big bro. --[[User:Myth|<font color="orange">'''Myth'''</font>]] [[File:Myth Kirby.png|19px|link=User talk:Myth]] 12:05, 28 December 2018 (EST)
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Not a bad idea. <span style="color:lightblue">Everone123</span> ([[User:Everone123|userpage]] • [[User talk:Everone123|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Everone123|contribs]]) 22:15, 7 January 2019 (EST)
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No contest. Big Battlefield wins (Bigger means better). Try coming up with something else. --[[User:JackyBlooo|JackyBlooo]] ([[User talk:JackyBlooo|talk]]) 08:52, 3 January 2019 (EST)
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== [[Luigi's Mansion]] vs. [[Dracula's Castle]] ==
Two locations, one being a haunted mansion in the middle of a spooky forest that is home to a green-clad  plumber, the other being a giant castle on the outskirts of Transylvania that is home to an evil vampire, both places equally spooky. --[[User:JackyBlooo|JackyBlooo]] ([[User talk:JackyBlooo|talk]]) 08:56, 3 January 2019 (EST)
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I think another fun connection is Dracula's Castle used to replace Luigi's Mansion in PM. --[[User:Myth|<font color="orange">'''Myth'''</font>]] [[File:Myth Kirby.png|19px|link=User talk:Myth]] 18:32, 19 January 2019 (EST)
This is my kind of battle! [[User:Dragonfirebreath25|Dragonfirebreath25]] ([[User talk:Dragonfirebreath25|talk]]) 18:35, 19 January 2019 (EST)
Yeah both places can be considered scary places. It would make a perfect battle. [[File:George Jones.jpg|25px]] [[User:Corrin Fan|Corrin Fan]] [[File:Walls Can Fall.jpg|25px]] 14:25, 21 January 2019 (EST)
Seems like a fun idea. [[User:Crazy456Rhino|Crazy456Rhino]] ([[User talk:Crazy456Rhino|talk]]) 13:07, April 18, 2019 (EDT)
Giving this a vote since the current arena seriously needs to end already. Also the PM trivia is neat.<span style="font-family: Algerian"> '''[[User: supatoad64|<span style="color:blue;"> Supα Toαd 64,</span>]] [[User talk: supatoad64|<span style="color:aqua;"> The Best </span>]]''' </span> [[ Image: MK64ToadCSP.jpg|20px ]] 09:15, August 31, 2019 (EDT)
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==[[Bayonetta]] vs. [[Joker]]==
==Pikmin vs. Popo==


Both are black clad, gun wielding, Sega owned (well, kinda for Joker), DLC fighters. But which one will come out on top? [[User:Crazy456Rhino|Crazy456Rhino]] ([[User talk:Crazy456Rhino|talk]]) 13:07, April 18, 2019 (EDT)
Both semi-characters, not exactally playable. One looks to its freind, the other(s) look to their captain. Who will win? The kid, or the hybrids? [[User:Freddy32|Freddy32]] ([[User talk: Freddy32|talk]]) 16:38 19 December 2010 (EST)


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* Bayonetta and Joker are extremely similar, this battle could make a difference. [[File:Derekblue1SigHead1.png|20px|link=]] [[User:Derekblue1|<span style="color:#20B2AA;">'''Derekblue1'''</span>]] [[User talk:Derekblue1|<span style="color:#20B2AA;">(talk)</span>]] [[File:Derekblue1SigHead2.png|20px|link=]] 09:54, April 15, 2020 (EDT)
#Uhm, I think you mean Nana, as Nana is the default support Ice Climber, not Popo. Therefore, having Pikmin vs. Nana is more sensible. But otherwise, I completely disagree with those of the oppose section. Minus these two, Olimar and the Ice Climbers would be bottom of the bottom tier, unable to do anything that brought them into the high tier. These two supporting characters are essential to the playable character they're a part of and their advance techniques. I'll also like to remind those in the oppose section that the Smash Arena isn't limited to playable characters, or anything for that matter. As long as it exists in the Smash universe, it's fair game for the Smash Arena. So these two being "semi-characters" is irrelevant for whether or not this would "work" in the Smash Arena. For a concluding statement, Olimar vs. Ice Clmbers could work instead, though I find this matchup more interesting. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[Image: TyranitarMS.png ]] 12:47, 22 December 2010 (EST)
 
#Omega is right, changing my mind. And people can't make any stupid votes really. [[User:Doc King|Doc King]] ([[User talk:Doc King|talk]]) 15:20, 22 December 2010 (EST)
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#Popo can be controlled, via costume change or with Nana being trapped.<span style="font-family:Forte">[[User:Megatron1|<span style="color:maroon">Mega</span>]][[User talk:Megatron1|<span style="color:silver">Tron1</span>]][[User:Megatron1/Laughology|<span style="color:blue">XD</span>]]</span>[[File:Decepticon.png|19px|:p]] 20:21, 19 December 2010 (EST)
#What he said. ☆<span style="font-family:Algerian">[[User:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:green">The</span>]] [[User talk:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:red">Solar</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon|<span style="color:blue">Dragon</span>]]</span>☆ 01:57, 20 December 2010 (EST)
#This just won't work. [[User:Mr. Anon|Mr. Anon]] ([[User talk:Mr. Anon|talk]]) 20:05, 20 December 2010 (EST)
#What they said.-[[User:Ivy73|<span style="color:forestgreen">Ivy</span>]][[User talk:Ivy73|<span style="color:blue">73</span>]][[File:002MS.png]] 12:36, 21 December 2010 (EST)
#The idea of using "semi-characters" for the Smash Arena is just a little farfetched.[[User:Brawlingbrian|<span style="color:green">Brawlingbrian</span>]][[Image:FalcoHead.png|20px]] [[User talk:Brawlingbrian|<span style="color:cerulean">LAND</span><span style="color:orange">MASTER!</span>]]  18:28, 21 December 2010 (EST)


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OT, the thing is, both need to have articles. Pikmin has an article, but Nana doesn't, so I don't think it could work. Furthermore, Nana isn't always the secondary Ice Climber. [[User:Mr. Anon|Mr. Anon]] ([[User talk:Mr. Anon|talk]]) 15:37, 22 December 2010 (EST)
:There's nothing that says something needs an article to be involved in a matchup in the Smash Arena, you're just making unnecessary assertions. And Nana is the '''default''' support climber. Therefore, having her in a matchup against Pikmin is correct in a matchup of support characters. One's alternate costume preference has no bearing here. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[Image: TyranitarMS.png ]] 16:12, 22 December 2010 (EST)


==[[Mario]] vs. [[Donkey Kong]] vs. [[Pacman]]==
== Battlefield vs Final Destination ==


All three are iconic fighters who were huge hits in the early 1980s, shoot projectiles, and are great at rescuing people. But things have been bubbling around Peach since Wii U, and there is only one way to settle things. Which will get the princess? [[User:Met3oR|Met3oR]] ([[User talk:Met3oR|talk]]) 22:17, April 13, 2020
The two most basic stages in Melee and Brawl and the stages that have appeared in every Smash game. Both have epic music. Both are mysterious floating platforms whose origins are unknown, in space, and another that apparently can teleport around. One, the home of the great Master Hand, and the other, the home of his formidable army. [[User:Mr. Anon|Mr. Anon]] ([[User talk:Mr. Anon|talk]]) 20:04, 20 December 2010 (EST)


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#Although Final Destination is not exacty a fair stage, both stages are representing the Super Smash Bros universe and are argueably the most played stages in SSBM and SSBB. I think this would be a great idea.--[[User:Shaun's Wiji Dodo|<span style="color: green;">'''Shaun's Wiji Dodo'''</span>]] [[User talk:Shaun's Wiji Dodo|''<span style="color: green;">talk</span>'']] [[File:Untitled-1_copy.gif‎ ]] 00:49, 21 December 2010 (EST)
#They are two of the most iconic stages, and are the two stages I play most on. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[Image: TyranitarMS.png ]] 02:44, 21 December 2010 (EST)
#I see what you mean. ☆<span style="font-family:Algerian">[[User:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:green">The</span>]] [[User talk:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:red">Solar</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon|<span style="color:blue">Dragon</span>]]</span>☆ 03:28, 21 December 2010 (EST)
#I only have 3 favorite stages, and these 2 are 2 of them.<span style="font-family:Forte">[[User:Megatron1|<span style="color:maroon">Mega</span>]][[User talk:Megatron1|<span style="color:silver">Tron1</span>]][[User:Megatron1/Laughology|<span style="color:blue">XD</span>]]</span>[[File:Decepticon.png|19px|:p]] 10:47, 21 December 2010 (EST)
#They´re both probably the most epic stages of the whole game, almost every combo video is made in these two stages. [[User:Zero|Zero]] ([[User talk:Zero|talk]]) 10:56, 21 December 2010 (EST)
#Two Smash stages against each other...:)-[[User:Ivy73|<span style="color:forestgreen">Ivy</span>]][[User talk:Ivy73|<span style="color:blue">73</span>]][[File:002MS.png]] 12:36, 21 December 2010 (EST)
#This would be a good idea. [[User:Doc King|Doc King]] ([[User talk:Doc King|talk]]) 15:47, 21 December 2010 (EST)
#I just have a gut feeling that this would turn out excellent. [[User:Brawlingbrian|<span style="color:green">Brawlingbrian</span>]][[Image:FalcoHead.png|20px]] [[User talk:Brawlingbrian|<span style="color:cerulean">LAND</span><span style="color:orange">MASTER!</span>]]  18:30, 21 December 2010 (EST)
#Great idea. The only two stages to appear in every Smash game, dueling. --[[Special:Contributions/86.152.206.96|86.152.206.96]] 04:37, 22 December 2010 (EST)
#Well, it would be nice to see another stage fight, plus i would like to see my favorite stages dueling. --[[User:UilMash|UilMash]] ([[User talk:UilMash|talk]]) 05:06, 22 December 2010 (EST)


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Your description is faulty. Final Destination is far from being one of the most "fair" stages, especially in ''Brawl''. When a stage can be considered a hard counter via it heavily favoring some characters and being highly detrimental to others, it is clearly not a "fair" stage in terms of matchup balance. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[Image: TyranitarMS.png ]] 23:20, 20 December 2010 (EST)
:Change in description is better. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[Image: TyranitarMS.png ]] 02:44, 21 December 2010 (EST)


==[[Pikachu]] vs. [[Lucas]]==
== Pikmin vs. Olimar ==
 
Olimar would obviously be nothing without his pikmin, but there's a reason why they were almost extinct before Olimar showed up. Who will win, the guys doing the dirty work or the brains behind it all? --[[User:Jelloratbob|Jelloratbob]] ([[User talk:Jelloratbob|talk]]) 17:59, 23 December 2010 (EST)
Both have the power of Thor. [[User:Met3oR|Met3oR]] ([[User talk:Met3oR|talk]]) 14:38, May 09, 2020
 
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#As I said for Pikmin vs. Popo, this is a little farfetched. [[User:Brawlingbrian|<span style="color:green">Brawlingbrian</span>]][[Image:FalcoHead.png|20px]] [[User talk:Brawlingbrian|<span style="color:cerulean">LAND</span><span style="color:orange">MASTER!</span>]]  18:16, 23 December 2010 (EST)


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*Quick heads up, the wiki's Smash Arena has been discontinued in favor of the Discord server's. The suggestions should go there instead. [[User:Cookies and Creme|<span style="font-family: Georgia;color: black;">Cookies</span>]][[File:CnC Signature.png|20px]][[User talk:Cookies and Creme|<span style="font-family: Georgia; color: black;">Creme</span>]] 11:15, May 9, 2020 (EDT)
 
==King Dedede vs. Snake==
2 Super Heavyweights with pretty good tourney experience, hard KOing up tilts, strong power, fast falling speed, and amazing momentum cancel. Which super heavyweight will win? [[User:Doc King|Doc King]] ([[User talk:Doc King|talk]]) 21:32, 23 December 2010 (EST)

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