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<div class="usermessage">[[Image:Stop_Hand.png|left|45px|]]While this page is no longer protected, failure to adhere to this page's Rules section will result in suggestions being closed again. Read the Rules section carefully before considering '''''any''''' edits to this forum.</div>


This forum has the purpose of helping to select what battles will eventually take place in the [[Forum:Smash Arena|Smash Arena]]. If you would like to make a suggestion, please feel free to leave it here. '''''New suggestions are placed at the bottom of the page'''''. Be sure to state your reason you suggested it and put the support, reject, and comments sections underneath it.
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Like the idea? Be sure to give it your support. Note that this page is not to be used for the actual voting between fighters; that happens in the Arena itself. Remember, the combatants don't necessarily have to be able to fight each other normally in Smash Bros.
This forum has the purpose of helping to select what will battles will eventually take place in the [[Forum:The Smash Arena Character Battles|Smash Arena]]. If you would like to make a suggestion, please feel free to leave it here. '''''New suggestions are placed at the bottom of the page'''''. Be sure to state your reasons why you suggested it and put the support, reject, and comments sections underneath it.<br><br>
Like the idea? Be sure to give it your support. Note that this page is not to be used for the actual voting between fighters; that happens in the Arena itself. Remember, the combatants don't necessarily have to be able to fight each other normally in Smash.<br><br>
If you would like to see what people have suggested in the past, please refer to this page's archives.


=Rules=
=Rules=
===Posting suggestions===
*Only signed-on users only can suggest a battle.
*Only Smash Bros.-related fights are permitted. Fights don't have to be between playable characters, but the combatants must have appeared in at least one Smash Bros. game.
*Sign your suggestions/votes/comments with <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> and a # in front of it (you don't necessarily have to put # in the comments sections, but you do have to sign with <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>).  
**Outside very specific circumstances, no fights are allowed between combatants that only appear in a game (or a batch of downloadable content) that has yet to be released.
*Don't vote for your own suggestion. You automatically vote for it if you suggest it.
*If there are already 10 open suggestions, you should probably reconsider adding a new one. If there are 15, it is highly recommended you do not. There is no limit to the number of open suggestions, but having too many clutters the page and makes it more difficult to keep track of.
*'''A user can only suggest one fight per week'''. (i.e.- you can't suggest 3 fights at one time)
*[[SmashWiki:Smash Arena#History|Check this list]] to view the fights that have been done. Repeat fights are permitted if they occurred '''100 or more rounds ago'''. As matchups over 100 rounds ago are moved off that particular list, the list is the definitive source on what can't be repeated. Note that repeats close to this cutoff may still be valid if the queue is full enough that the fight's acceptance will allow it to be outside the 100-round zone.
*Post WHY you support/oppose. Don't say, "Oh, Link is much hotter than Snake"! Explain why you like the fight.  
*Do not post more than one suggestion at a time. Each user may post '''one suggestion per week''' (i.e. one every seven days).
*You can remove your own suggestion, but you may not post a new suggestion until next week.
*'''Sign your suggestions/votes/comments with <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> and a # in front of it''' (you don't necessarily have to put # in the comments sections, but you do have to sign with <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>).
*Place new suggestions at '''THE BOTTOM''' of page. If you place them at the top, they will be lost when we archive the page. You have been warned.
*Place new suggestions at '''the bottom''' of the page.
*Do NOT use this page to argue with other users over their reasons and opinions. You can civilly point out an inconsistency or mistake in their description, but if you say things like "That's so stupid" that could potentially start an argument in the Comments, you are breaching the rule. Anyone who breaches this rule will have their opinion on that suggestion removed along with the conversation.
*You can retract and remove your own suggestion, but it still counts as your suggestion for that week.
*The comments section is to be used for '''relevant''' comments.
**If your suggestion is removed because it's invalid or because your week isn't up, it doesn't count as your suggestion for that week. That said, users who constantly post invalid or rapid-fire suggestions may be suspended from suggesting for a few weeks, and may risk [[SW:PROB|probation]].
*The users running the Smash Arena have the final say over all of the fights.
*Similarly to the above, you cannot edit a suggestion once people have started to vote on it. Editing the description is fine, just don't alter the combatants.
*Don't suggest fights that are already done or have been in already placed on the Queued list already. (Check the queued list if your suggestion is already listed for being place for a fight in the next few weeks). [[Forum:Smash Arena#Fights|Check this list]] to view any fights that have been done. No duplicate fights are permitted.
*ONLY fights that are related to Super Smash Bros. It can be between two characters from the series only. No characters from Mario, Legend of Zelda, or other games that haven't been in the games. Non-playable characters, like the assist trophies and Pokéball Pokémon are allowed, as long as they appear in the SSB series.
*It doesn't really matter if they are in total different SSB games. As long as they are in the SSB series, they can fight each other in the Arena.
*And please, under no circumstances, '''DO NOT MAKE THIS PAGE INTO THE SMASH ARENA ITSELF!''' This is for deciding what goes there, not voting on which would win.


===Voting and comments===
=Show Your Support=
*Don't vote on your own suggestion.
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*Post '''why''' you support/oppose. Don't just say, "Oh, this is a cool idea". Explain why you like/don't like the fight. This is not required but adds credence to your opinion - remember, suggestions are not accepted or rejected based on a simple vote count.
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*The comments section is to be used for relevant comments only.
<nowiki>{{SA Box}}</nowiki> - Userbox made for the Smash Arena by [[User:Squallinoa_08|Squallinoa 08]]. Please, if you wish, place these on your user pages. It will tell you the new fights every week.
*Do not use this page to argue with other users over their reasons and opinions. You can civilly point out an inconsistency or mistake in their description, but if you say things like, "That's stupid", that could potentially start an argument in the comments, you are breaching this rule.
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*'''Do not make this page into the Smash Arena itself.''' This is for deciding what goes there, not voting on the winner.


===Acceptance or rejection===
=Suggestions=
*'''The SA operator(s) has final say over all the fights.''' Suggestions and comments are merely a way for the community to influence the fights, and can be used, edited, or ignored at the operator(s)'s discretion.
Remember, <big>'''''New suggestions are placed at the bottom of the page'''''</big>.
*Acceptance of fights is not based simply on votes. The votes are used to judge the community's opinion of the matchup; again it is solely the operator(s)'s decision on what the bouts are.
*Suggestions are purged every time a new Smash Arena round is posted. It is at this time they are either accepted and placed into the queue, or they are rejected. Not all suggestions are purged at once - only those that are both older than the rest and have higher vote counts. Usually suggestions need at least 5 votes to be decided upon, unless they are very old.
**In the vein of the above, do not repost a suggestion of yours that has been removed recently, since it's either already lined up or been rejected. See the Queue section for an idea of how long it may take for your suggestion to show up.
*If a suggestion of yours has been rejected in the past, you may repost it three months (90 days) after its rejection. However, it is unlikely for a rejected suggestion to be accepted in the future, so it is likely more productive to suggest something else.
*Descriptions are not guaranteed to be included as-is should a suggestion pass.


=Tips=
== Zelda vs Mewtwo==
*In most cases, the combatants of a match should share similarities but have key differences. However, matchups between total opposites are also interesting. Avoid the middle ground where combatants have little in common but are also not polar opposites.
The two most powerful wielders of supernatural arts in smash have met. Which is stronger? Zelda's magic, or Mewtwo's psychic abilities? '''[[User:Gutripper|<span style="color:orange">Gutripper</span>]][[User Talk:Gutripper|<small><sup><span style="color:Black">Speak</span></sup></small>]]'''
*Protagonist vs. antagonist matches (e.g. Mario vs. Bowser) are valid, and many of them succeed in the arena, but are usually pushed aside by the community in favour of matchups that are less "obvious". Matchups born from in-game events (e.g. Subspace Emissary groupings) or matchups that are big in their home universes but not necessarily in Smash Bros. (e.g. legendary Pokémon fights) tend to fall into this as well.
*While rematches are valid once 100 rounds have passed, do not expect much enthusiasm for them unless the original match was very close or a tie.
*Regular matches (one-on-one) are favoured far more than three-way fights. If you have an idea for a three-way fight, see if one of the three combatants is really necessary, and try to get it down to two. Fights of more than three participants have to be sock-knocking genius in order to be even considered, so unless you're convinced it will be very popular, turn your efforts to something else.
*The description can sway peoples' opinions of a matchup. While the most interesting suggestions can be accepted on their own merits, those in the middle can be made or broken by how you present them.


=Queue=
===Support===
The current queue is as such:
{{SA Queue}}
Hover the cursor over a round number to see its predicted start date. Empty spots are shown in grey.


When the queue becomes full (all the grey spots are filled up), suggestions will be suspended. You may continue to vote on current suggestions, but no more may be proposed. Once the queue drains out to a size of one, suggestions will be re-opened.
#The description may not work, but I like it. Its clever. '''[[User:Toon Ganondorf|<span style="color:green">Toon</span> <span style="color:purple">Ganondorf</span>]]  [[User Talk:Toon Ganondorf|<span style="color:Gold">(t</span>]]  [[Special:Contributions/Toon Ganondorf|<span style="color:Gold">c)</span>]]'''
#Tipping t' balance. What's wrong with this idea? '''[[User:Pikabro|<span style="color:blue"> Pikabro</span>]][[User Talk:Pikabro|<small><sup><span style="color:darkorange">PIKA</span></sup></small>]][[Special:Contributions/Pikabro|<small><sup><span style="color:red">CHU!</span></sup></small>]]''' 08:34, 13 February 2009 (UTC)
#I have to support it. They're two highly unique characters. <font face="verdana" size="2">[[User:Baltro|<span style="color:red">'''Baltro'''</span>]]</font> <small>[ [[User Talk:Baltro|<span style="color:orangered">'''talk'''</span>]] ]</small> 23:31, 2 May 2009 (UTC)
#They both have great psychic or magical powers, I'm with it. [[User:Hyper Shadow|Hyper Shadow]] ([[User talk:Hyper Shadow|talk]]) 19:17, 26 May 2009 (UTC)
# <span style="border:2px bottomset black;background-color: black;-moz-border-radius:3px">'''[[User:The Horror|<font color="Red">The Horror</font>]]''''<sup>[[User_talk:The Horror|<font color="white">Speak if you dare</font>]]</sup></span> 16:39, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
#They both use magic/psychic powers. Who wouldn't want to see them battle?[[Image:Charizard.png|20 px]][[Image:Yoshi.jpg|20 px]][[Image:Rayquaza.jpg|20 px]]'''[[User:Lordzilla]]'''[[Image:Ridley.jpg|20 px]][[Image:Modea15 080317awk06.jpg|20 px]][[Image:Pokemon trainer.jpg|20 px]] 18:10, 18 June 2009 (UTC)
#This would be an interesting fight, considering that they both have magical powers. [[Special:Contributions/220.253.198.197|220.253.198.197]] 07:53, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
#Yeah, a battle of the magic wielders is a unique idea. [[Special:Contributions/220.253.197.146|220.253.197.146]] 06:56, 24 July 2009 (UTC)
#Nice! Mewtwo uses his dark power and Zelda calls upon the Triforce in this battle! Looks good! <span style="font-family:Forte;">[[User:HavocReaper48|<font color="brown">Havoc</font>]][[User talk:HavocReaper48|<font color="brown">Reaper48</font>]][[User:HavocReaper48/Emoticonology|<font color="purepurple"> >:D!!!</font>]]</span> 19:58, November 10, 2009 (UTC)
#Good Idea. They are both moderatly powerful charcters [[User:Tylersb7|Tylersb7]] ([[User talk:Tylersb7|talk]]) 03:57, December 27, 2009 (UTC)
#They were both unique characters and bottom tier in Melee, so this would be an interesting matchup.[[User:Omega Tyrant|Omega Tyrant]] [[Image: TyranitarMS.png | 25px]] 02:01, April 21, 2010 (UTC)


The queue is not set in stone; new suggestions may appear before older ones and it may change at any time. The queue attempts to balance out fights so that specific participants or universes aren't used too much in a short time.
===Reject===
# This idea sucks. '''[[User:Blue Ninjakoopa|<span style="background:#000000;color:#99ffff">Blue Ninjakoopa</span>]]'''<sup>[[User talk:Blue Ninjakoopa|<span style="vertical-align:baseline;position:relative;bottom:0.36em;color:#0099ff">Talk</span>]]</sup> 07:13, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
#I agree with BNK. [[User:Unknown the Hedgehog|<font color="#FF0000">Unknown </font>]] [[User talk:Unknown the Hedgehog|<font color="#780000">the </font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Unknown the Hedgehog|<font color="000000">Hedgehog</font>]] 15:30, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
#Indeed.'''[[User:Smorekingxg456|<span style="color:#5F9EA0">Smoreking</span>]]<small><sup>[[User Talk:Smorekingxg456#Top|<span style="color:#00FF00">(T)</span>]]</sup></small><small><sub> [[Special:Contributions/Smorekingxg456|(c)]]</sub></small>''' 14:31, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
#I agree with BNK, which considering my crew, is very rare ;-) '''[[User:Ike's Best Buddy|<span style="color:Red">Ike's</span> <span style="color:Brown">Best</span> <span style="color:Maroon">Buddy</span>]][[User Talk:Ike's Best Buddy|<small><sup><span style="color:silver">Here, my Friends</span></sup></small>]]'''
#Not that good of an idea. [[Special:Contributions/66.186.173.61|66.186.173.61]] 22:19, September 2, 2009 (UTC)
#I don't really like this idea at all. That may just be because I hate Zelda though. [[User:Solar Dragon|<font color="red">Solar</font> <font color="blue">Dragon</font>]] ([[User talk:Solar Dragon|<font color="gold">Talk</font>]]) 05:32, September 25, 2009 (UTC)
#I agree with BNK. [[Special:Contributions/98.117.158.220|98.117.158.220]] 05:38, December 29, 2009 (UTC)


The contents of the queue are a secret to maintain mystery and intrigue.
===Comment===
*For the reject voters, how is this worse than Captain Falcon and Sonic? <font face="verdana" size="2">[[User:Baltro|<span style="color:red">'''Baltro'''</span>]]</font> <small>[ [[User Talk:Baltro|<span style="color:orangered">'''talk'''</span>]] ]</small> 23:31, 2 May 2009 (UTC)
:*Because they actually '''have something in common'''. Mewtwo and Zelda is like Mario versus Toon Link; the idea is stupid and bland, possibly a sad attempt to grab attention. <span style="border:2px outset #ff66ff;background-color: #66ff99;-moz-border-radius:3px">'''[[User:Blue Ninjakoopa|<span style="color:#9900ff;">Blue</span>]] [[User talk:Blue Ninjakoopa|<span style="color:#9900ff">Ninjakoopa</span>]]'''</span> 00:03, 3 May 2009 (UTC)
PK Powerz any1?
::What a cheap and nasty comment to make, and highly irrelevant. '''[[User:Toon Ganondorf|<span style="color:green">Toon</span> <span style="color:purple">Ganondorf</span>]]  [[User Talk:Toon Ganondorf|<span style="color:Gold">(t</span>]]  [[Special:Contributions/Toon Ganondorf|<span style="color:Gold">c)</span>]]''' 09:33, 3 May 2009 (UTC)
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So, what is going on with this then? Will it be used in some time or not? ☆<span style="font-family:Algerian;">[[User:Solar Dragon|<font color="green">The</font> <font color="red">Solar</font> <font color="blue">Dragon</font>]] <sup>([[User talk:Solar Dragon|<font color="gold">Talk</font>]])</sup></span>☆ 14:07, March 13, 2010 (UTC)


=Show Your Support=
== Wario vs Wolf ==
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[[Template:SA Box|<code><nowiki>{{SA Box}}</nowiki></code>]] - Smash Arena userbox; originally by [[User:Squallinoa_08|Squallinoa 08]], modified by [[User:Toomai|Toomai]]. If you wish, place it on your user page. It will tell you the new fights as they happen.


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One is a rival to Mario and his friends, the other is a rival to the Star Fox team. Both have been bosses in games, and both have had to team up with the hero to stop someone else. Who would win the rival battle?
To make a suggestion the easy way, copy the following code, paste it into the bottom of the editing window, and fill out the relevant parts:
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==<participant 1> vs. <participant 2>==
 
<description of fight, maybe a few reasons you think it would be a good matchup> ~~~~


===Support===
===Support===
#My suggestion. '''[[User:ClonedPickle|<span style="color:DarkTurquoise">Cloned</span>]][[User talk:ClonedPickle|<span style="color:DarkGreen">Pickle</span>]]''' 19:03, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
#@Mudkipz: FAIL. Wario is as much a rival to Mario as I love fried chicken. '''[[User:Blue Ninjakoopa|<span style="background:#000000;color:#99ffff">Blue Ninjakoopa</span>]]'''<sup>[[User talk:Blue Ninjakoopa|<span style="vertical-align:baseline;position:relative;bottom:0.36em;color:#0099ff">Talk</span>]]</sup> 01:43, 14 January 2009 (UTC)
#If Wario isn't a rival then I don't know who is. '''[[User:Gutripper|<span style="color:orange">Gutripper</span>]][[User Talk:Gutripper|<small><sup><span style="color:Black">Speak if you are worthy</span></sup></small>]]'''
#Wario is. '''[[User:Toon Ganondorf|<span style="color:green">Toon</span> <span style="color:purple">Ganondorf</span>]]  [[User Talk:Toon Ganondorf|<span style="color:Gold">(t</span>]]  [[Special:Contributions/Toon Ganondorf|<span style="color:Gold">c)</span>]]'''
#at least he used to be a rival. [[User:Solar flute|Solar flute]] ([[User talk:Solar flute|talk]]) 07:21, 24 February 2009 (UTC)
#Even if Wario isn't as big of a rival, it would still be a good fight. [[User:Hyper Shadow|Hyper Shadow]] ([[User talk:Hyper Shadow|talk]]) 19:20, 26 May 2009 (UTC)
#Battle of the anti-heroes. I like it! [[Special:Contributions/220.253.198.197|220.253.198.197]] 07:53, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
#Cool, i don't think there's been a rival battle yet. [[Special:Contributions/220.253.197.146|220.253.197.146]] 06:56, 24 July 2009 (UTC)
#I love the idea. [[Special:Contributions/66.186.173.61|66.186.173.61]] 22:19, September 2, 2009 (UTC)
#I like bot characters so it will be close and good. [[User:Solar Dragon|<font color="red">Solar</font> <font color="blue">Dragon</font>]] ([[User talk:Solar Dragon|<font color="gold">Talk</font>]]) 05:32, September 25, 2009 (UTC)
#It's also the battle of the only playable characters in the game beginning with W (i think). [[Special:Contributions/220.253.239.109|220.253.239.109]] 05:07, October 15, 2009 (UTC)
#Both love money. [[Special:Contributions/98.117.158.220|98.117.158.220]] 05:40, December 29, 2009 (UTC)


===Oppose===
===Reject===
#This one just isn't good. Wario isn't much of a Rival these days...--[[User:Mudkipz|User:Mudkipz]] ([[User talk:Mudkipz|talk]]) 00:47, 14 January 2009 (UTC)
#Yeah, Wario's pretty branched off in his own games from Mario now. -''[[User:Masq|<span style="color:green">Masq</span>]]'' <small>('''[[User talk:Masq|t]]'''/''[[Special:Contributions/Masq|c]]''/'''[[Special:Editcount/Masq|e]]''')</small> 03:01, 15 January 2009 (UTC)
#Indeed.'''[[User:Smorekingxg456|<span style="color:#5F9EA0">Smoreking</span>]]<small><sup>[[User Talk:Smorekingxg456#Top|<span style="color:#00FF00">(T)</span>]]</sup></small><small><sub> [[Special:Contributions/Smorekingxg456|(c)]]</sub></small>''' 14:37, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
#errr.... '''[[User:Ike's Best Buddy|<span style="color:Red">Ike's</span> <span style="color:Brown">Best</span> <span style="color:Maroon">Buddy</span>]][[User Talk:Ike's Best Buddy|<small><sup><span style="color:silver">Here, my Friends</span></sup></small>]]'''
#this is a good idea even though wario isn't a rival anymore! [[User:Tylersb7|Tylersb7]] ([[User talk:Tylersb7|talk]]) 04:00, December 27, 2009 (UTC)


===Comments===
===Comments===
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=Suggestions=
==[[Rosalina]] vs. [[Bowser Jr.]]==


Two of the newest characters from the ''Mario'' universe makes it into ''SSB4''. Both have chargeable projectiles which stop dead upon hit. Who will rule 21st century ''Mario''? [[:User:ZeldaStarfoxfan2164|ZeldaStarfoxfan2164]] ([[User talk:ZeldaStarfoxfan2164|talk]]) is a never lover boy 22:00, 9 December 2017 (EST)
==Metal Mario vs Giga Bowser==
Two alternatives of regular smashers, invented by the Smash universe. The solid metal plumber vs the ultimate King of Koopas. Which is hardier in Smashing? '''[[User:Toon Ganondorf|<span style="color:green">Toon</span> <span style="color:purple">Ganondorf</span>]]   [[User Talk:Toon Ganondorf|<span style="color:Gold">(t</span>]]  [[Special:Contributions/Toon Ganondorf|<span style="color:Gold">c)</span>]]'''


===Support===
===Support===
I think it has an interesting idea behind it. It has my vote! [[User:Crazy456Rhino|Crazy456Rhino]] ([[User talk:Crazy456Rhino|talk]]) 15:41, 22 March 2018 (EDT)
#Good idea. Technically, Metal Mario first appeared in Super Mario 64 by the use of the Metal Box. [[User:Unknown the Hedgehog|<font color="#FF0000">Unknown </font>]] [[User talk:Unknown the Hedgehog|<font color="#780000">the </font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Unknown the Hedgehog|<font color="000000">Hedgehog</font>]] 00:24, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
#Two of the biggest characters invented by Smash. Metal Mario has been a boss for two games, and Giga Bowser was two games as well. '''[[User:Gutripper|<span style="color:orange">Gutripper</span>]][[User Talk:Gutripper|<small><sup><span style="color:Black">Speak</span></sup></small>]]''' 22:22, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
#In my opinion, a great idea, although since I'm a Mario series fan, it's no wonder why I'd say that. Also, Unknown is correct. Anyways, I'm picturing this battle in my mind as an even bigger final battle between Mario and Bowser in Super Mario 64. '''[[User:MarioGalaxy|<span style="color:darkslateblue">Mario</span><span style="color:#000033">Galaxy</span>]]'''<sup><small>'''[[User talk:MarioGalaxy|<span style="color:lightslategray">May Guthix be with you...</span>]]'''</small></sup> 00:16, 28 February 2009 (UTC)
#I agree with all of the above[[Image:Charizard.png|20 px]][[Image:Yoshi.jpg|20 px]][[Image:Rayquaza.jpg|20 px]]'''[[User:Lordzilla]]'''[[Image:Ridley.jpg|20 px]][[Image:Meta ridley.jpg|20 px]][[Image:Pokemon trainer.jpg|20 px]] 00:29, 18 June 2009 (UTC)
#Sure, it's similar to Mario vs Bowser but considering the different strengths and weaknesses of their stronger forms the outcome could be significantly different. [[Special:Contributions/220.253.198.197|220.253.198.197]] 07:53, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
#They're the bosses of the Classic and Adventure modes in Melee respectively. I wonder who would have the upper hand? [[Special:Contributions/220.253.197.146|220.253.197.146]] 06:56, 24 July 2009 (UTC)
#Sounds like a fun match to me. [[Special:Contributions/66.186.173.61|66.186.173.61]] 22:19, September 2, 2009 (UTC)
#Why does anyone disagree? It's a better version of a classic battle. [[Special:Contributions/98.117.158.220|98.117.158.220]] 05:42, December 29, 2009 (UTC)


Sounds like fun! Let's try it! [[User:Dragonfirebreath25|Dragonfirebreath25]] ([[User talk:Dragonfirebreath25|talk]]) 07:33, 23 March 2018 (EDT)
===Oppose===
#Do you remember Mario vs. Bowser? [[User:Solar flute|Solar flute]] ([[User talk:Solar flute|talk]])
#Agreed with Solar Flute.'''[[User:Smorekingxg456|<span style="color:#5F9EA0">Smoreking</span>]]<small><sup>[[User Talk:Smorekingxg456#Top|<span style="color:#00FF00">(T)</span>]]</sup></small><small><sub> [[Special:Contributions/Smorekingxg456|(c)]]</sub></small>''' 14:28, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
#Fail. <span style="border:2px outset #9900cc;background-color:white;-moz-border-radius:10px">'''[[User:Blue Ninjakoopa|<span style="color:#ff0099;">Blue</span>]] [[User talk:Blue Ninjakoopa|<span style="color:#ff0099">Ninjakoopa</span>]]'''</span> 22:46, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
#It seems a bit one sided towards Giga Bowser to me.[[User:Solar Dragon|<font color="red">Solar</font> <font color="blue">Dragon</font>]] ([[User talk:Solar Dragon|<font color="gold">Talk</font>]]) 05:32, September 25, 2009 (UTC)
#The guy above me is right. The battle would pretty much be one-sided towards Giga Bowser. [[User:SuperSmasher94|SuperSmasher94]] ([[User talk:SuperSmasher94|talk]]) 02:12, November 13, 2009 (UTC)
# agreed with the guy above. Giga Bowser is actually invincibal [[User:Tylersb7|Tylersb7]] ([[User talk:Tylersb7|talk]]) 04:02, December 27, 2009 (UTC)
#Giga Bowser is the ultimate form of Bowser while Metal Mario is just a powered up form of Mario. Metal Mario was also just a mid-boss while Giga Bowser was the final boss of Melee's Adventure and Event mode. Final Boss > Mid-Boss.[[User:Omega Tyrant|Omega Tyrant]] [[Image: TyranitarMS.png | 25px]] 02:01, April 21, 2010 (UTC)


I agree with Crazy Rhino. It's interesting. Why not. Blueflame105
===Comments===
#Meh.  I just don't know.  Wierd, yet it's the ultimate form of two smashers.  What to think...[[User:L33tSilvie|<span style="color:gold;">L33t</span>]] [[User talk:L33tSilvie|<span style="color:silver;">Silvie</span>]] <sup><span style="color:Green;">[[Special:Contributions/L33tSilvie|F33R T3|-| L337!!</span></sup>]] 22:37, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
#Metal Mario was made in Super Mario 64. Facts. Get them.'''[[User:Smorekingxg456|<span style="color:#5F9EA0">Smoreking</span>]]<small><sup>[[User Talk:Smorekingxg456#Top|<span style="color:#00FF00">(T)</span>]]</sup></small><small><sub> [[Special:Contributions/Smorekingxg456|(c)]]</sub></small>''' 22:31, 24 February 2009 (UTC)
:Mario with a metal box was made in SM 64. The character/boss [[Metal Mario]] was invented by Smash. Facts. Get them. '''[[User:Gutripper|<span style="color:orange">Gutripper</span>]][[User Talk:Gutripper|<small><sup><span style="color:Black">Speak</span></sup></small>]]'''
::Nothing was "invented". Metal Mario CAME FROM Super Mario 64. '''Facts. Get them.''' <span style="border:2px outset #9900cc;background-color:white;-moz-border-radius:10px">'''[[User:Blue Ninjakoopa|<span style="color:#ff0099;">Blue</span>]] [[User talk:Blue Ninjakoopa|<span style="color:#ff0099">Ninjakoopa</span>]]'''</span> 23:18, 26 February 2009 (UTC)
:::Don't you start...so you're telling me that you fought Metal Mario in Super Mario 64? Cos unless you did, you're wrong. '''[[User:Toon Ganondorf|<span style="color:green">Toon</span> <span style="color:purple">Ganondorf</span>]]  [[User Talk:Toon Ganondorf|<span style="color:Gold">(t</span>]]  [[Special:Contributions/Toon Ganondorf|<span style="color:Gold">c)</span>]]'''
::::Metal Mario IS Mario, which is why he isn't a major boss in Brawl. Remember, Sakurai got rid of all clones. <span style="border:2px outset #9900cc;background-color:white;-moz-border-radius:10px">'''[[User:Blue Ninjakoopa|<span style="color:#ff0099;">Blue</span>]] [[User talk:Blue Ninjakoopa|<span style="color:#ff0099">Ninjakoopa</span>]]'''</span> 11:27, 27 February 2009 (UTC)
:::::All clones? [[Toon Link (SSBB)|Not exactly...]] Anyways, Metal Mario was not invented by Smash, even if he functioned as a boss in SSB64. [[User:Miles.oppenheimer|<font color="forestgreen"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Miles''']] <font color="lime">([[User talk:Miles.oppenheimer|<font color="lime">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 12:38, 27 February 2009 (UTC)
::::::Miles, wrong? I never thought that could happen... hey! If you can get me non-h4x footage of Toon Link doing a kick, I'll believe you :D <span style="border:2px outset #9900cc;background-color:white;-moz-border-radius:10px">'''[[User:Blue Ninjakoopa|<span style="color:#ff0099;">Blue</span>]] [[User talk:Blue Ninjakoopa|<span style="color:#ff0099">Ninjakoopa</span>]]'''</span> 19:49, 27 February 2009 (UTC)
:::::::"Not exactly" --> includes semi-clones.  Oh, and I'm never wrong. ;D [[User:Miles.oppenheimer|<font color="forestgreen"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Miles''']] <font color="lime">([[User talk:Miles.oppenheimer|<font color="lime">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 22:48, 27 February 2009 (UTC)
:::::::: Then you should know damn well that Toon Link =/= Link. ::) <span style="border:2px outset #9900cc;background-color:white;-moz-border-radius:10px">'''[[User:Blue Ninjakoopa|<span style="color:#ff0099;">Blue</span>]] [[User talk:Blue Ninjakoopa|<span style="color:#ff0099">Ninjakoopa</span>]]'''</span> 23:50, 27 February 2009 (UTC)
#Which came first, SSB 64 or Mario Golf 64? [[User:Solar flute|Solar flute]] ([[User talk:Solar flute|talk]]) 00:08, 27 February 2009 (UTC)
#Regarding Toon Ganondorf's last comment: You didn't ''fight'' Metal Mario in Super Mario 64, you '''''played''''' as Metal Mario.--[[User:Meta-K|Meta-Kirb]] ([[User talk:Meta-K|talk]]) 13:46, 27 February 2009 (UTC)
:::Oh be quiet. My suggestion was the boss, not Mario with a metal box. Metal Mario the boss was introduced in the first Smash game. Regardless of whether Mario can get a Metal box, the minor boss fought in 64 is who we're dealing with. End of story. '''[[User:Toon Ganondorf|<span style="color:green">Toon</span> <span style="color:purple">Ganondorf</span>]]  [[User Talk:Toon Ganondorf|<span style="color:Gold">(t</span>]]  [[Special:Contributions/Toon Ganondorf|<span style="color:Gold">c)</span>]]''' 23:45, 27 February 2009 (UTC)
::::Actually, you never stated the boss form of Metal Mario in the description. '''[[User:Smorekingxg456|<span style="color:#5F9EA0">Smoreking</span>]]<small><sup>[[User Talk:Smorekingxg456#Top|<span style="color:#00FF00">(T)</span>]]</sup></small><small><sub> [[Special:Contributions/Smorekingxg456|(c)]]</sub></small>''' 23:48, 27 February 2009 (UTC)
::::::Oh it's the boss version <_<. Let me ask you this, when there was the Mario vs. Bowser fight, which Mario was it? The Mario from Super Mario 64 or the Mario from Super Mario Galaxy. You might be saying to yourself,"They're the same character." That's my point. Whether or not it's MM from SM64 or MM from SSB, it's still Metal Mario. [[User:Unknown the Hedgehog|<font color="#FF0000">Unknown </font>]] [[User talk:Unknown the Hedgehog|<font color="#780000">the </font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Unknown the Hedgehog|<font color="000000">Hedgehog</font>]] 00:13, 28 February 2009 (UTC)


Kind of an obvious one. [[User:TheNuttyOne|TheNuttyOne]] 14:50, 7 June 2018 (EDT)
==Marth vs. Meta Knight==
The two "mach speed" swordsmen were interupted by the Ancient Minister. Now, the best swordsmen (according to the tiers) will unsheathe their swords and do battle. <font face="calibri" size="3">[[User:SapphireKirby777|<span style="color:blue">SapphireKirby</span>]]</font>[[User Talk:SapphireKirby777|<span style="color:silver">'''777 ~Behold! -.-'''</span>]]
 
===Support===
#Of all the generic swordsmen battles, this one is the best IMO -- the SSE and tier reasons make it work. [[User:Miles.oppenheimer|<font color="forestgreen"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Miles''']] <font color="lime">([[User talk:Miles.oppenheimer|<font color="lime">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 21:10, 2 March 2009 (UTC)
#Good idea. [[User:Unknown the Hedgehog|<font color="#FF0000">Unknown </font>]] [[User talk:Unknown the Hedgehog|<font color="#780000">the </font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Unknown the Hedgehog|<font color="000000">Hedgehog</font>]] 22:22, 2 March 2009 (UTC)
#Ye. <span style="border:2px outset #33ff66;background-color:green;-moz-border-radius:3px">'''[[User:Blue Ninjakoopa|<span style="color:#99ff99;">Blue</span>]] [[User talk:Blue Ninjakoopa|<span style="color:#99ff99">Ninjakoopa</span>]]'''</span> 22:34, 2 March 2009 (UTC)
#[http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/gamemode/modea/modea13.html Epic]. Nothing else to say. [[User:Metalink187|Metalink187]] ([[User talk:Metalink187|talk]]) 12:35, 7 March 2009 (UTC)
#Gotta have my favorites dueling, I love seeing Galaxia clashing with Marth's sword. <font color="Crimson">Thanks, '''TimeMaster''' [[User talk:TimeMaster|Talk]] [[User:TimeMaster|Main]] [[Special:Contributions/TimeMaster|Contribs]]</font> 01:13, 21 March 2009 (UTC)
#I've been wanting to see them finish that sword battle from the Subspace Emissary. [[User:Hyper Shadow|Hyper Shadow]] ([[User talk:Hyper Shadow|talk]]) 19:23, 26 May 2009 (UTC)
#Sure, why not? It could go either way. [[Special:Contributions/220.253.198.197|220.253.198.197]] 07:53, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
#Both great swordsmen. [[User:Solar Dragon|<font color="red">Solar</font> <font color="blue">Dragon</font>]] ([[User talk:Solar Dragon|<font color="gold">Talk</font>]]) 05:32, September 25, 2009 (UTC)
#Awesome! I would love to see this. [[User:Tylersb7|Tylersb7]] ([[User talk:Tylersb7|talk]]) 04:05, December 27, 2009 (UTC)
#Well, they are the two fastest swordsmen, but who is truly the fastest?[[User:Omega Tyrant|Omega Tyrant]] [[Image: TyranitarMS.png | 25px]] 02:01, April 21, 2010 (UTC)


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#sigh... another swordsmen fight. [[User:Solar flute|Solar flute]] ([[User talk:Solar flute|talk]]) 01:56, 17 March 2009 (UTC)
#Swordsman fail.'''[[User:Smorekingxg456|<span style="color:#5F9EA0">Smoreking</span>]]<small><sup>[[User Talk:Smorekingxg456#Top|<span style="color:#00FF00">(T)</span>]]</sup></small><small><sub> [[Special:Contributions/Smorekingxg456|(c)]]</sub></small>''' 15:41, 21 March 2009 (UTC)
#You could pretty much pair any characters from the Subspace Emissary for a battle. This fight just doesn't seem interesting to me. [[Special:Contributions/220.253.197.146|220.253.197.146]] 06:56, 24 July 2009 (UTC)
#Relatively boring idea. [[Special:Contributions/220.253.239.109|220.253.239.109]] 05:07, October 15, 2009 (UTC)


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==[[Bowser]] vs. [[Bowser Jr.]]==
==Mario vs. Kirby==
It's the battle of the Koopas! The Koopa King and the Koopa Prince are a royal duo. Who will rule this Koopa brawl between two ''Mario'' universe enemies? [[User:Dragonfirebreath25|Dragonfirebreath25]] ([[User talk:Dragonfirebreath25|talk]]) 07:49, 23 March 2018 (EDT)
In the original Super Smash Bros., these two duked it out. In SSBB, a match was also done. Will a Smash Arena battle settle the rivalry? <font face="calibri" size="3">[[User:SapphireKirby777|<span style="color:blue">SapphireKirby</span>]]</font>[[User Talk:SapphireKirby777|<span style="color:green">'''777---I'm a leprechaun! -.-'''</span>]]


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It would be en epic koopa battle. [[:User:ZeldaStarfoxfan2164|ZeldaStarfoxfan2164]] ([[User talk:ZeldaStarfoxfan2164|talk]]) is a never lover boy  19:59, 9 May 2018 (EDT)


Sure, why not? [[User:TheNuttyOne|TheNuttyOne]] 14:50, 7 June 2018 (EDT)
*Predictable, but I kinda like it anyways. [[User:Miles.oppenheimer|<font color="forestgreen"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Miles''']] <font color="lime">([[User talk:Miles.oppenheimer|<font color="lime">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 20:54, 19 March 2009 (UTC)
*You could call it the "Match of the highest rated usage characters in the SSBM strategy guide." '''[[User:ClonedPickle|<span style="color:DarkTurquoise">Cloned</span>]][[User talk:ClonedPickle|<span style="color:DarkGreen">Pickle</span>]]''' 22:00, 19 March 2009 (UTC)
*Per everone above. [[User:Unknown the Hedgehog|<font color="#FF0000">Unknown </font>]] [[User talk:Unknown the Hedgehog|<font color="#780000">the </font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Unknown the Hedgehog|<font color="000000">Hedgehog</font>]] 22:02, 19 March 2009 (UTC)
#These two were battling eachother in the opening of the original game. It'd be interesting to see who'd win. [[Special:Contributions/220.253.198.197|220.253.198.197]] 07:53, 10 July 2009 (UTC)


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I don't know. This seems kind of obvious. I don't think they're different enough. You're entitled to your opinion though. Blueflame105
#Lack of imagination. I don't like it, sorry. '''<span style="font-family:Lucida Calligraphy; font-size:8pt">[[User:Gutripper|<span style="color:orange">Gutripper</span>]][[User Talk:Gutripper|<small><sup><span style="color:Black">Speak</span></sup></small>]]</span>''' 07:13, 20 March 2009 (UTC)
#Me neither, the normal once again (besides Mario v Link). <font color="Crimson">Thanks, '''TimeMaster''' [[User talk:TimeMaster|Talk]] [[User:TimeMaster|Main]] [[Special:Contributions/TimeMaster|Contribs]]</font> 15:19, 21 March 2009 (UTC)
#I lol'd at Gutripper calling something unimaginative, but yeah, unimaginative.'''[[User:Smorekingxg456|<span style="color:#5F9EA0">Smoreking</span>]]<small><sup>[[User Talk:Smorekingxg456#Top|<span style="color:#00FF00">(T)</span>]]</sup></small><small><sub> [[Special:Contributions/Smorekingxg456|(c)]]</sub></small>''' 15:41, 21 March 2009 (UTC)
#Meh.  With those reasons, you could have pretty much anyone in the original 12 fight.[[User:L33tSilvie|<span style="color:gold;">L33t</span>]] [[User talk:L33tSilvie|<span style="color:silver;">Silvie</span>]] <sup><span style="color:Green;">[[Special:Contributions/L33tSilvie|F33R T3|-| L337!!</span></sup>]] 16:24, 19 April 2009 (UTC)
# [[User:SuperTeddy|<font color="orange">SuperTeddy</font>]]<sup>[[User Talk:SuperTeddy|<font color="blue"> call me </font>]]</sup><sup>[[Special:Contributions/SuperTeddy|<font color="red">Matthew</font>]]</sup> 17:17, 24 April 2009 (UTC)
#This battle already happened in the story mode. [[Special:Contributions/220.253.197.146|220.253.197.146]] 06:56, 24 July 2009 (UTC)
#Already happened so NO. [[User:Solar Dragon|<font color="red">Solar</font> <font color="blue">Dragon</font>]] ([[User talk:Solar Dragon|<font color="gold">Talk</font>]]) 05:32, September 25, 2009 (UTC)
# Already happened TWICE! no.... [[User:Tylersb7|Tylersb7]] ([[User talk:Tylersb7|talk]]) 04:07, December 27, 2009 (UTC)
#Same as everyone above.[[Special:Contributions/98.117.158.220|98.117.158.220]] 05:43, December 29, 2009 (UTC)
#Same reasons as everyone above, it's just too plain.[[User:Omega Tyrant|Omega Tyrant]] [[Image: TyranitarMS.png | 25px]] 02:01, April 21, 2010 (UTC)


===Comments===
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You don't have to be sorry Gutripper. <font face="calibri" size="3">[[User:SapphireKirby777|<span style="color:blue">SapphireKirby</span>]]</font>[[User Talk:SapphireKirby777|<span style="color:green">'''777---I'm a leprechaun! -.-'''</span>]] 12:57, 20 March 2009 (UTC)
#What is that supposed to mean, Smore? '''<span style="font-family:Lucida Calligraphy; font-size:8pt">[[User:Gutripper|<span style="color:orange">Gutripper</span>]][[User Talk:Gutripper|<small><sup><span style="color:Black">Speak</span></sup></small>]]</span>''' 21:57, 21 March 2009 (UTC)
== Giga Bowser vs. Beast Ganon ==


==[[Villager]] vs. [[Rosalina]]==
Two giants who are two of the most destuctive forces in the smash universe. {{unsigned|Cooky Kirby}}


Both characters are fun and have a special move that can negate most projectiles (Pocket and Gravitational Pull, respectively) and are both fairly new. Both are newcomers. Who would win? What do you think? [[Special:Contributions/72.133.91.93|72.133.91.93]] 16:02, 9 May 2018 (EDT)Blueflame105 3:01, March 9 2018 (American Central Time)


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A great battle for me so, let's give that a try! [[User:Dragonfirebreath25|Dragonfirebreath25]] ([[User talk:Dragonfirebreath25|talk]]) 12:15, 10 May 2018 (EDT)
#Honestly, I like it. '''[[User:Toon Ganondorf|<span style="color:green">Toon</span> <span style="color:purple">Ganondorf</span>]]  [[User Talk:Toon Ganondorf|<span style="color:Gold">(t</span>]]  [[Special:Contributions/Toon Ganondorf|<span style="color:Gold">c)</span>]]''' 00:47, 21 March 2009 (UTC)
#Makes sense, two incarnations of villians that are both giant beasts. '''[[User:ClonedPickle|<span style="color:DarkTurquoise">Cloned</span>]][[User talk:ClonedPickle|<span style="color:DarkGreen">Pickle</span>]]''' 00:49, 21 March 2009 (UTC)
#Good idea! [[User:Unknown the Hedgehog|<font color="#FF0000">Unknown </font>]] [[User talk:Unknown the Hedgehog|<font color="#780000">the </font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Unknown the Hedgehog|<font color="000000">Hedgehog</font>]] 15:12, 21 March 2009 (UTC)
#Hey you, person who rejected! I should point out that Beast Ganon is also invulnerable to knockback! [[User:Paradox Juice|Paradox Juice]] ([[User talk:Paradox Juice|talk]]) 23:20, 14 April 2009 (UTC)
#Agree with Paradox Juice. [[User:SuperTeddy|<font color="orange">SuperTeddy</font>]]<sup>[[User Talk:SuperTeddy|<font color="blue"> call me </font>]]</sup><sup>[[Special:Contributions/SuperTeddy|<font color="red">Matthew</font>]]</sup> 17:18, 24 April 2009 (UTC)
# Agrees with everybody above and is scared about becoming a yes-man. '''[[User:Ike's Best Buddy|<span style="color:Red">Ike's</span> <span style="color:Brown">Best</span><span style="color:Maroon">Buddy</span>]][[User Talk:Ike's Best Buddy|<small><sup><span style="color:silver">Here, my Friends</span></sup></small>]]'''
#Two beasts with one-hit KOs are what I want in a brawl![[Image:Charizard.png|20 px]][[Image:Yoshi.jpg|20 px]][[Image:Rayquaza.jpg|20 px]]'''[[User:Lordzilla]]'''[[Image:Ridley.jpg|20 px]][[Image:Modea15 080317awk06.jpg|20 px]][[Image:Pokemon trainer.jpg|20 px]] 18:25, 18 June 2009 (UTC)
#The final forms of Nintendo's most iconic villians battling it out. A very likable idea. [[Special:Contributions/220.253.198.197|220.253.198.197]] 07:53, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
#Cool! I wish this battle was put into the Subspace Emissary. [[Special:Contributions/220.253.197.146|220.253.197.146]] 06:56, 24 July 2009 (UTC)
#Two of the biggest changes in a Final Smash. Cool idea. [[User:Solar Dragon|<font color="red">Solar</font> <font color="blue">Dragon</font>]] ([[User talk:Solar Dragon|<font color="gold">Talk</font>]]) 05:32, September 25, 2009 (UTC)
#EPIC!!! [[Special:Contributions/220.253.239.109|220.253.239.109]] 05:07, October 15, 2009 (UTC)
# It would be epic even though they are both invincible [[User:Tylersb7|Tylersb7]] ([[User talk:Tylersb7|talk]]) 04:08, December 27, 2009 (UTC)
# Technically, Giga can still be hurt, but this would be an epic fight. '''''<span style="font-family:Boopee;">[[User:HavocReaper48|<font color="blue">Havoc</font>]][[User talk:HavocReaper48|<font color="maroon">Reaper</font>]][[w:c:ssb:User:HavocReaper48/Emoticonology|<span style='color="red"'>48</span>]]</span>''''' 15:48, March 13, 2010 (UTC)
#This is a great suggestion, the transformed versions of Nintendo's two most iconic villians.[[User:Omega Tyrant|Omega Tyrant]] [[Image: TyranitarMS.png | 25px]] 02:01, April 21, 2010 (UTC)


This is a great idea. Has my support. YoshisaurusThe9th
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*Critical phail. Giga Bowser is immune to knockback. I don't care about the physics of SA, it still fails.'''[[User:Smorekingxg456|<span style="color:#5F9EA0">Smoreking</span>]]<small><sup>[[User Talk:Smorekingxg456#Top|<span style="color:#00FF00">(T)</span>]]</sup></small><small><sub> [[Special:Contributions/Smorekingxg456|(c)]]</sub></small>''' 15:41, 21 March 2009 (UTC)
 
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==Falco vs. Diddy Kong==
They are both partners of very known characters, animals, and they both have a gun. '''[[User:SuperTeddy|<span style="color:lightgreen">Super</span>]][[User talk:SuperTeddy|<span style="color:orange">Teddy</span>]]''' 10:48, 21 March 2009 (UTC)
 
===Support===
#This fight has already been suggested, but this is a decent comparison. '''<span style="font-family:Lucida Calligraphy; font-size:8pt">[[User:Gutripper|<span style="color:orange">Gutripper</span>]][[User Talk:Gutripper|<small><sup><span style="color:Black">Speak</span></sup></small>]]</span>''' 10:59, 21 March 2009 (UTC)
#Sounds cool. Win. <font color="Crimson">Thanks, '''TimeMaster''' [[User talk:TimeMaster|Talk]] [[User:TimeMaster|Main]] [[Special:Contributions/TimeMaster|Contribs]]</font> 15:21, 21 March 2009 (UTC)
#IBB likey... '''[[User:Ike's Best Buddy|<span style="color:Red">Ike's</span> <span style="color:Brown">Best</span> <span style="color:Maroon">Buddy</span>]][[User Talk:Ike's Best Buddy|<small><sup><span style="color:silver">Here, my Friends</span></sup></small>]]'''
#Peanuts vs Laser Fire. Lol. [[Special:Contributions/220.253.198.197|220.253.198.197]] 07:53, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
#It's a good idea. [[Special:Contributions/220.253.197.146|220.253.197.146]] 06:56, 24 July 2009 (UTC)
#Cool idea. Only, will the peanuts really defeat a lazer? Oh well, like it. [[User:Solar Dragon|<font color="red">Solar</font> <font color="blue">Dragon</font>]] ([[User talk:Solar Dragon|<font color="gold">Talk</font>]]) 05:32, September 25, 2009 (UTC)
#Who cares if it's already been suggested. This fight could easily work. [[Special:Contributions/220.253.239.109|220.253.239.109]] 05:07, October 15, 2009 (UTC)


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I don't really get the connection. [[User:TheNuttyOne|TheNuttyOne]] 14:50, 7 June 2018 (EDT)
*Suggested before, and denied. This is against the rules, and thus should fail.'''[[User:Smorekingxg456|<span style="color:#5F9EA0">Smoreking</span>]]<small><sup>[[User Talk:Smorekingxg456#Top|<span style="color:#00FF00">(T)</span>]]</sup></small><small><sub> [[Special:Contributions/Smorekingxg456|(c)]]</sub></small>''' 15:41, 21 March 2009 (UTC)
#I'll have to oppose, the Falco vs. Captain Falcon idea is a much better matchup.[[User:Omega Tyrant|Omega Tyrant]] [[Image: TyranitarMS.png | 25px]] 02:01, April 21, 2010 (UTC)


===Comments===
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#Not really against the rules. Please explain. '''<span style="font-family:Lucida Calligraphy; font-size:8pt">[[User:Gutripper|<span style="color:orange">Gutripper</span>]][[User Talk:Gutripper|<small><sup><span style="color:Black">Speak</span></sup></small>]]</span>''' 21:56, 21 March 2009 (UTC)
#I think any failed idea should be given "second chances." Note that more people are coming to this wikia (lately). So the outcome of an idea is...well...based on luck. <font face="calibri" size="3">[[User:SapphireKirby777|<span style="color:blue">SapphireKirby</span>]]</font>[[User Talk:SapphireKirby777|<span style="color:green">'''777---I'm a leprechaun! -.-'''</span>]] 19:29, 24 March 2009 (UTC)
#Note to Smoreking, this is not against the rules. The rules state that suggesting fights that have progressed through the Arena are against the rules. This is not against the rules, as at the time of suggestion, it failed to garner enough support to reach the SA Preparation. '''<span style="font-family:Lucida Calligraphy; font-size:8pt">[[User:Gutripper|<span style="color:orange">Gutripper</span>]][[User Talk:Gutripper|<small><sup><span style="color:Black">Speak</span></sup></small>]]</span>''' 21:53, 24 March 2009 (UTC)


==[[Koopalings|Wendy]] vs. [[Lucina]]==
== Link vs. Yoshi ==


The only unlockable females in the series. One fights to repair the future, the other fights to take over the world. One is driven and kind, the other is bratty and vicious. Which one reigns supreme? [[User:TheNuttyOne|TheNuttyOne]] 14:50, 7 June 2018 (EDT)
The green team's teamed up in the SSE, but now they fight in the Smash Arena! [[User:PurpleDarkness|<font color="red"><span style="font-family:Arial;">'''PurpleDarkness''']] <font color="navyblue">([[User talk:PurpleDarkness|<font color="navyblue">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 01:41, 17 April 2009 (UTC)


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A nice matchup in my favor. [[User:Dragonfirebreath25|Dragonfirebreath25]] ([[User talk:Dragonfirebreath25|talk]]) 16:36, 7 June 2018 (EDT)
#This is pretty clever.  A dinosaur v. a swordsman means primal v. sophisticated.  Tongue v. Sword means Yoshi's got the guts to fight with a tongue in the first place. <font face="calibri">'''[[User:Fried beef1|<span style="color:orangered">Fried</span><span style="color:blue">beef1</span>]][[User Talk:Fried beef1|<span style="color:amethyst"><span style="font-size:60%">Screech</span></span>]]'''</font> 22:08, 20 April 2009 (UTC)
 
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Just no. Please no. Also, Wendy isn't unlockable in for Wii U, and neither is Lucina, so that's driven entirely from the 3DS version, right? [[Special:Contributions/72.133.91.93|72.133.91.93]] 12:03, 8 June 2018 (EDT) Blueflame105
#In this case, this is epic fail. Yep : they're both green, yep they were fighting on the same stages but those reasons aren't enough for the BIG gap between them (dinosaur vs knight, tongue vs sword) [[User:Metalink187|Metalink187]] ([[User talk:Metalink187|talk]]) 20:38, 20 April 2009 (UTC)
#Yeah, no. <span style="border:2px outset #33ff66;background-color:green;-moz-border-radius:3px">'''[[User:Blue Ninjakoopa|<span style="color:#99ff99;">Blue</span>]] [[User talk:Blue Ninjakoopa|<span style="color:#99ff99">Ninjakoopa</span>]]'''</span> 05:31, 21 April 2009 (UTC)
#Phailure.[[User:L33tSilvie|<span style="color:gold;">L33t</span>]] [[User talk:L33tSilvie|<span style="color:silver;">Silvie</span>]] <sup><span style="color:Green;">[[Special:Contributions/L33tSilvie|Your epidermis is showing.</span></sup>]] 20:45, 21 April 2009 (UTC)
#Per everybody above. [[User:Unknown the Hedgehog|<font color="#FF0000">Unknown </font>]] [[User talk:Unknown the Hedgehog|<font color="#780000">the </font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Unknown the Hedgehog|<font color="000000">Hedgehog</font>]] 21:13, 22 April 2009 (UTC)
#Um, i dont really think so. '''<span style="font-family:Lucida Calligraphy; font-size:8pt">[[User:Gutripper|<span style="color:orange">Gutripper</span>]][[User Talk:Gutripper|<small><sup><span style="color:Black">Speak</span></sup></small>]]</span>''' 09:31, 23 April 2009 (UTC)
# <span style="border:2px bottomset black;background-color: black;-moz-border-radius:3px">'''[[User:The Horror|<font color="Red">The Horror</font>]]''''<sup>[[User_talk:The Horror|<font color="white">Speak if you dare</font>]]</sup></span> 16:40, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
# Don't get me started. No, really, don't. '''[[User:Ike's Best Buddy|<span style="color:Red">Ike's</span> <span style="color:Brown">Best</span> <span style="color:Maroon">Buddy</span>]][[User Talk:Ike's Best Buddy|<small><sup><span style="color:silver">Here, my Friends</span></sup></small>]]'''
#The only thing they have in common is that they're green. [[Special:Contributions/220.253.198.197|220.253.198.197]] 07:53, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
#Sorry, but no. [[Special:Contributions/220.253.197.146|220.253.197.146]] 06:56, 24 July 2009 (UTC)
#Do not like is. Enough said. [[User:Solar Dragon|<font color="red">Solar</font> <font color="blue">Dragon</font>]] ([[User talk:Solar Dragon|<font color="gold">Talk</font>]]) 05:32, September 25, 2009 (UTC)
#Uh...no. [[Special:Contributions/220.253.239.109|220.253.239.109]] 05:07, October 15, 2009 (UTC)
#They're green, were partners in the SSE, and that's about it.[[User:Omega Tyrant|Omega Tyrant]] [[Image: TyranitarMS.png | 25px]] 02:01, April 21, 2010 (UTC)


===Comments===
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Fried beef : It's better to make fighting characters than have a few things in common. The "sophisticated vs. primal" thing is an argument for differences, same for "tongue vs. sword" (like I said). So it may just not work. [[User:Metalink187|Metalink187]] ([[User talk:Metalink187|talk]]) 08:04, 3 May 2009 (UTC)


==[[Lakitu & Spinies]] vs. [[Hammer Bro.]]==
== Charziard vs. Ridley ==


Two [[Assist Trophies]] from the ''Mario'' series. One throws Spinies, the other throws hammers. Which one is your favorite? [[User:Dragonfirebreath25|Dragonfirebreath25]] ([[User talk:Dragonfirebreath25|talk]]) 16:36, 7 June 2018 (EDT)
Two dragon like creatures. One a powerful pokemon and one a space pirate who kills. <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:Giga Rob|Giga Rob]] ([[User talk:Giga Rob|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Giga Rob|contribs]]) </small>


===Support===
===Support===
It's a cool idea, so I'll support this. I would definitely vote for Hammer Bro. though. I hate going up against Lakitu. [[Special:Contributions/72.133.91.93|72.133.91.93]] 12:04, 8 June 2018 (EDT)Blueflame105
#Battle of the dragons, one fighting for good and the other for evil. I like it. [[Special:Contributions/220.253.198.197|220.253.198.197]] 07:53, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
#Very creative idea! [[Special:Contributions/220.253.197.146|220.253.197.146]] 06:56, 24 July 2009 (UTC)
#Like it. ☆<span style="font-family:Algerian;">[[User:Solar Dragon|<font color="green">The</font> <font color="red">Solar</font> <font color="blue">Dragon</font>]] <sup>([[User talk:Solar Dragon|<font color="gold">talk</font>]])</sup></span>☆ 21:52, November 4, 2009 (UTC)


===Oppose===
===Oppose===
Rematches are uninteresting in general, especially now that we're going to have 5 ''Smash'' games and now, there are more ''Mario'' based assists. [[:User:ZeldaStarfoxfan2164|ZeldaStarfoxfan2164]] ([[User talk:ZeldaStarfoxfan2164|talk]]) is a never lover boy  23:43, 21 July 2018 (EDT)
#Hum... Don't know why but don't like it. [[User:Metalink187|Metalink187]] ([[User talk:Metalink187|talk]]) 17:03, 7 June 2009 (UTC)
===Comments===
#I don't see enough things in common. Yeah their both dragonlike, but Ridley isn't really a dragon in the same sense as charizard. He can't breath fire and is metalic. [[Special:Contributions/98.117.158.220|98.117.158.220]] 05:46, December 29, 2009 (UTC)
Not saying it couldn't happen as it was more than 100 matches ago, but discovered this same matchup with their Brawl incarnations in the archives. While I do like this matchup and fully support it, it does say you aren't likely to get a repeat unless people really want a different result or it was a tie. [[Special:Contributions/72.133.91.93|72.133.91.93]] 19:06, 6 July 2018 (EDT)Blueflame105
#Ridley and Charizard aren't much alike, Rayquaza would be a much more suitable pokemon for this matchup and Rayquaza is a true dragon, unlike Charizard.[[User:Omega Tyrant|Omega Tyrant]] [[Image: TyranitarMS.png | 25px]] 02:01, April 21, 2010 (UTC)
 
===Comment===


==[[Mario Circuit (SSB4)]] vs. [[Rainbow Road]]==
== Ridley vs. Meta Ridley ==


3, 2, 1... GO! Two stages from ''{{iw|mariowiki|Mario Kart|series}}'' battle it out in a race to the finish. One is from ''{{s|mariowiki|Mario Kart 8}}'' and ''{{s|mariowiki|Mario Kart 8 Deluxe}}'', the other is from ''{{s|mariowiki|Mario Kart 7}}''. Who will take the checkered flag in this match? [[User:Dragonfirebreath25|Dragonfirebreath25]] ([[User talk:Dragonfirebreath25|talk]]) 01:10, 17 June 2018 (EDT)
The most famous creature from the Metroid serie is fighting its resurrection form. Who will win ? [[User:Metalink187|Metalink187]] ([[User talk:Metalink187|talk]]) 16:31, 28 April 2009 (UTC)


===Support===
===Support===
Great Idea in my opinion.
# <span style="border:2px bottomset black;background-color: black;-moz-border-radius:3px">'''[[User:The Horror|<font color="Red">The Horror</font>]]''''<sup>[[User_talk:The Horror|<font color="white">Speak if you dare</font>]]</sup></span> 16:38, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
[[User: CaptainDabsalot|CaptainDabsalot]] Or [[User Talk: CaptainDabsalot|The SavageCow]] 6/22/18 11:04 CST
#I wonder if the original Ridley or his resurrected form would win? [[Special:Contributions/220.253.197.146|220.253.197.146]] 06:56, 24 July 2009 (UTC)


[[:User:ZeldaStarfoxfan2164|ZeldaStarfoxfan2164]] ([[User talk:ZeldaStarfoxfan2164|talk]]) is a never lover boy  23:43, 21 July 2018 (EDT)
===Oppose===
===Oppose===
#It's just the same character fighting against itself. [[Special:Contributions/220.253.198.197|220.253.198.197]] 07:53, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
#Neither of them appeared for more than about five minutes in the whole of the SSE - does anyone have enough of an opinion on either of them to actually vote? They're far too similar. The only difference I can discern is that Meta Ridley has to be defeated in 2 minutes, and is somehow even more predictable than Ridley as it only ever attacks from the left. Other than that, they're exactly the same thing. I think this would be a rather stale battle in which only about two people would vote. '''''<span style="font-family:Arial;">[[User:PenguinofDeath|<font color="silver">Penguin</font>]][[User talk:PenguinofDeath|<font color="gray">of</font>]][[Special:Contributions/PenguinofDeath|<font color="silver">Death</font>]]</span>''''' 08:39, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
#Reason #1 <font face="calibri">'''[[User:Fried beef1|<span style="color:orangered">Fried</span><span style="color:blue">beef1</span>]][[User Talk:Fried beef1|<span style="color:amethyst"><span style="font-size:60%">Screech</span></span>]]'''</font> 19:18, 24 July 2009 (UTC)
#Well, a Ridley facing a stronger version of itself...[[User:Solar Dragon|<font color="red">Solar</font> <font color="blue">Dragon</font>]] ([[User talk:Solar Dragon|<font color="gold">Talk</font>]]) 05:32, September 25, 2009 (UTC)
#Too easy to predict the outcome. [[Special:Contributions/220.253.239.109|220.253.239.109]] 05:07, October 15, 2009 (UTC)
#It is just too obvious.[[User:Omega Tyrant|Omega Tyrant]] [[Image: TyranitarMS.png | 25px]] 02:01, April 21, 2010 (UTC)


===Comments===
===Comments===


==[[Daisy]] vs. [[Inkling]] vs. [[Ridley]]==
Don't know if it has already been suggested but... here it is ! :D [[User:Metalink187|Metalink187]] ([[User talk:Metalink187|talk]]) 20:27, 26 April 2009 (UTC)


The first three newcomers announced for SSBU. Which noob gets the most hype? ...Wait a second... [[Forum:Smash_Arena/Archive_40#Villager_vs._Wii_Fit_Trainer_vs._Mega_Man|hasn't something like this been done before?]] [[User:infernape612|<span style="color:orange">infernape]][[User talk:infernape612|<span style="color:orange">612</span>]]</span> 20:17, 21 July 2018 (EDT)
The hell is going on ? It's been more than a week we suggested and there is no vote ? [[User:Metalink187|Metalink187]] ([[User talk:Metalink187|talk]]) 21:18, 9 May 2009 (UTC)


===Support===
::Can I just say, what happened to my epicly simple Idea? Is it going to be saved for an anniversary? '''--[[User:The blue blur|<b><span style="color:darkblue">~The Blue</span></b>]]<b>[[User talk:The blue blur|<span style="color:purple"> Blur~</span>]]</b><sup>[[Special:Contributions/The blue blur|<span style="color:">New main in training!</span>]]</sup> 11:26, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
I mean... yeah. [[User:TheNuttyOne|TheNuttyOne]] 20:42, 21 July 2018 (EDT)


ABSOLUTELY! Ultimate looks really good. Counting down the days till December 9th..... [[Special:Contributions/72.133.91.93|72.133.91.93]] 22:30, 21 July 2018 (EDT)Blueflame105
I like the idea, but it's an obvious fight. Meta Ridley is the stronger form of Ridley, right?  I'm neutral.[[User:L33tSilvie|<span style="color:gold;">L33t</span>]] [[User talk:L33tSilvie|<span style="color:silver;">Silvie</span>]] <sup><span style="color:Green;">[[Special:Contributions/L33tSilvie|I see wat u did thar...</span></sup>]] 12:21, 25 May 2009 (UTC)


The only time such matchup is valid. [[:User:ZeldaStarfoxfan2164|ZeldaStarfoxfan2164]] ([[User talk:ZeldaStarfoxfan2164|talk]]) is a never lover boy  23:43, 21 July 2018 (EDT)
:That's one of the reasons that made me undecided at first but, if teh people don't like, they just need to type something in "Opposes", well nothing very horrific ^^ [[User:Metalink187|Metalink187]] ([[User talk:Metalink187|talk]]) 14:56, 25 May 2009 (UTC)


Love it! That one is going to be awesome! [[User:Dragonfirebreath25|Dragonfirebreath25]] ([[User talk:Dragonfirebreath25|talk]]) 13:07, 29 July 2018 (EDT)
== Blastoise vs. Squirtle ==


The two evolutionary relatives now duke it out in the arena! Will the Poke Ball character come out on top, or will he suffer to the Tiny Turtle Pokemon?[[Image:Meta Knight.jpg|20 px]][[User:Lordzilla|Lordzilla]] 00:14, 18 June 2009 (UTC)
===Support===
#Cool. I wonder which Pokemon's Hydro Pump would be more damaging in the end. [[Special:Contributions/220.253.197.146|220.253.197.146]] 06:56, 24 July 2009 (UTC)
===Oppose===
===Oppose===
#Blastoise comes as a trophy only (unless I'm mistaken), so a hugely 1-sided fight. '''[[User:Ike's Best Buddy|<span style="color:Red">Ike's</span> <span style="color:Brown">Best</span> <span style="color:Maroon">Buddy</span>]][[User Talk:Ike's Best Buddy|<small><sup><span style="color:silver">Here, my Friends</span></sup></small>]]'''
#I don't know mah Pokeymans very well, but isn't Blastoise an evolved form of Squirtle?  If so,then there's no real contest.
#Fairly unoriginal. Would work if you used other pokemon maybe. [[Special:Contributions/220.253.198.197|220.253.198.197]] 07:53, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
#Well, Blastoise ''is'' only a trophie while Squirtle is a member of Pokémon Trainer's team. It is an uneven match up. [[User:Solar Dragon|<font color="red">Solar</font> <font color="blue">Dragon</font>]] ([[User talk:Solar Dragon|<font color="gold">Talk</font>]]) 13:38, September 5, 2009 (UTC)
#You could do this for any Pokemon which evolves into another. [[Special:Contributions/220.253.239.109|220.253.239.109]] 05:07, October 15, 2009 (UTC)
#The games aren't based off the anime, a pokemon in its first stage is going to be destroyed by its final stage. It is just no contest.[[User:Omega Tyrant|Omega Tyrant]] [[Image: TyranitarMS.png | 25px]] 02:01, April 21, 2010 (UTC)


===Comments===
===Comments===


== Fighting Alloy Team vs R.O.B. Squad ==
The guys from adventure mode take on the guys from classic mode. Will the R.O.B.s stay strong or will the copycat characters truimph? [[User:Smash Shadic|<font color="red">Smash</font> <font color="grey">Shadic</font>]]  13:36 20 July 2009 (UTC)


==[[Kirby (SSB4)|Kirby]] Vs. [[Jigglypuff (SSB4)| Jigglypuff]]==
===Support===
#War of the endless clone. Good idea! [[Special:Contributions/220.253.197.146|220.253.197.146]] 06:56, 24 July 2009 (UTC)
#Yeah, go for it. [[User:Solar Dragon|<font color="red">Solar</font> <font color="blue">Dragon</font>]] ([[User talk:Solar Dragon|<font color="gold">Talk</font>]]) 05:32, September 25, 2009 (UTC)
#Yeah, neither seem to end when you fight them. [[Special:Contributions/220.253.239.109|220.253.239.109]] 05:07, October 15, 2009 (UTC)
#F.A.T. vs the squads of R.O.B.s! Seems good, I agree with the guys above.<span style="font-family:Forte;">[[User:HavocReaper48|<font color="brown">Havoc</font>]][[User talk:HavocReaper48|<font color="brown">Reaper48</font>]][[User:HavocReaper48/Emoticonology|<font color="purepurple"> >:D!!!</font>]]</span> 04:14, November 11, 2009 (UTC)
# Great idea. [[User:Tylersb7|Tylersb7]] ([[User talk:Tylersb7|talk]]) 04:13, December 27, 2009 (UTC)


Pink. Puffy. Powerful. Wait, which one am I talking about? It's pink puffball on pink puffball in this puffball brawl. Both are floaty, pink, and overall competitively useless! Both of their up specials can hinder their recoveries, but can jump a lot (maybe too much) so it's all good. It's the ULTIMATE BATTLE! What's that? You say it's not? Well then, [[Kirby]] or [[Jigglypuff]]. [[Special:Contributions/72.133.91.93|72.133.91.93]] 08:53, 22 July 2018 (EDT)Blueflame105
===Oppose===


===Comments===
*You got the intro wrong, the fighting alloy team is in the Stadium Mode, not Classic.[[User:Omega Tyrant|Omega Tyrant]] [[Image: TyranitarMS.png | 25px]] 02:01, April 21, 2010 (UTC)
==Dialga vs. Palkia==
One can distort time, the other space. They both make trouble on Spear Pillar. Which one of the titans shall survive ? [[User:Metalink187|<font color="purple"><span style="font-family:Arial;">'''Metalink'''</span></font>]]<font color="red">[[User talk:Metalink187|<font color="red"> '''is watchin' ya...'''</font>]]</font> 19:37, 20 July 2009 (UTC)
===Support===
===Support===
 
#They're also both some of the most annoying characters in Brawl. Time and Space are pretty evenly matched forces so this fight would be a hard one to pick the winner. [[Special:Contributions/220.253.197.146|220.253.197.146]] 06:56, 24 July 2009 (UTC)
#Well, I think that it is mainly the effects, not the actual Pokémon to vote for. I think that a battle between Dialga's Roar of Time and Palkia's Spacial Rend would be good. [[User:Solar Dragon|<font color="red">Solar</font> <font color="blue">Dragon</font>]] ([[User talk:Solar Dragon|<font color="gold">Talk</font>]]) 13:47, September 4, 2009 (UTC)
===Oppose===
===Oppose===
This match was already done in a lopsided result. Also I noticed that much of your contributions have been Smash Arena related and we're currently on a Red wiki status and spending to much time in the Smash Arena without contributing to the mainspace can result in an IP block (or probation if you're a registered user). [[:User:ZeldaStarfoxfan2164|ZeldaStarfoxfan2164]] ([[User talk:ZeldaStarfoxfan2164|talk]]) is bad for me  18:52, 23 July 2018 (EDT)
#Too obvious... <font face="calibri" size="3">[[User:SapphireKirby777|<span style="color:blue">SapphireKirby</span>]]</font>[[User Talk:SapphireKirby777|<span style="color:gold">'''777'''</span>]] 16:37, 26 August 2009 (UTC)
#Don't do fights that were in another game make them new. [[User:Smash Shadic|<span style="color:red">Smash</span><span style="color:grey">Shadic</span>]]
#No, it's too unoriginal. [[Special:Contributions/220.253.239.109|220.253.239.109]] 05:07, October 15, 2009 (UTC)
#I agree with the guy above. This actually happens when each new generation of Pokemon and the ones that get the cover of the new game.[[User:HavocReaper48|HavocReaper48]] ([[User talk:HavocReaper48|talk]]) 23:47, November 4, 2009 (UTC)
#Same reasons as everyone above.[[User:Omega Tyrant|Omega Tyrant]] [[Image: TyranitarMS.png | 25px]] 02:01, April 21, 2010 (UTC)


===Comments===
===Comments===
I apologize. I was not aware of this, and will refrain from doing Smash Arena things, at least until wiki status lowers. I have been attempting tobe more helpful on the wiki, but overall, I'm not good at it. [[Special:Contributions/72.133.91.93|72.133.91.93]] 22:51, 25 July 2018 (EDT)Blueflame105
This obvious fight has started with Pokémon Diamond and Pearl. Let's make it going on ! [[User:Metalink187|<font color="purple"><span style="font-family:Arial;">'''Metalink'''</span></font>]]<font color="red">[[User talk:Metalink187|<font color="red"> '''is watchin' ya...'''</font>]]</font> 19:37, 20 July 2009 (UTC)


==[[Cloud Strife]] Vs. [[Solid Snake]]==
== Master Hand vs. Tabuu ==
While these two super soldiers are largely considered Playstation classics, they've found there way into Nintendo's big crossover. Both may take some stuff through cloning (Cloud has Zack's memories and abilities, Snake is a literal clone of Big Boss) but who comes out on top? Btw, they're both relatively mature for Nintendo titles --[[User:Myth|<font color="orange">'''Myth'''</font>]] [[File:Myth Kirby.png|19px|link=User talk:Myth]] 21:19, 11 August 2018 (EDT)
 
The battle of the bosses. Will the dominating hand or the magical figure win? [[User:Alxeedo111|<font face="Exotc350 Bd BT" color="red"><big>Alxeedo</big>]]</font> <small>[[User talk:Alxeedo111|Blah blah blah...]] ([[Special:Contributions/Alxeedo111|Contribs]]|[[Special:Editcount/Alxeedo111|Editcount]])</small>


=== Support ===
=== Support ===
I nearly removed this suggestion because I thought it involved an ''Ultimate'' character, then I found out Cloud was in ''SSB4''. [[:User:ZeldaStarfoxfan2164|ZeldaStarfoxfan2164]] ([[User talk:ZeldaStarfoxfan2164|talk]]) is a never lover boy  22:42, 11 August 2018 (EDT)
#Orange Yoda 14:19, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
#Master Hand was already weakened in the SSE so this would be a fairer fight in the Smash Arena. [[Special:Contributions/220.253.234.33|220.253.234.33]] 03:05, September 16, 2009 (UTC)
#It would be epic for sure. [[Special:Contributions/220.253.239.109|220.253.239.109]] 05:07, October 15, 2009 (UTC)
#Yes! Master hand's revenge! It's not just epic, it's um... very epic? [[Special:Contributions/98.117.158.220|98.117.158.220]] 18:34, November 15, 2009 (UTC)


They are great characters in both ''Smash 4'' and ''Ultimate'' so, let's do it! By the way, Cloud's debut game is ''Final Fantasy VII'', while ''Metal Gear Solid'' is Snake's first game. [[User:Dragonfirebreath25|Dragonfirebreath25]] ([[User talk:Dragonfirebreath25|talk]]) 15:23, 23 August 2018 (EDT)
=== Oppose ===
#Tabuu owned the Master Hand in Brawl. We have seen this fight before. [[User:Solar Dragon|<font color="red">Solar</font> <font color="blue">Dragon</font>]] ([[User talk:Solar Dragon|<font color="gold">Talk</font>]]) 11:27, September 5, 2009 (UTC)
# master hand already fouht master hand and won. To obvios who would win
#Tabuu is just vastly superior to Master Hand, much greater power, much more health, and harder to dodge attacks. However, Masterhand is less predictable.[[User:Omega Tyrant|Omega Tyrant]] [[Image: TyranitarMS.png | 25px]] 02:01, April 21, 2010 (UTC)


=== Oppose ===
=== Comments ===
=== Comments ===
*Who weakened him though? Tabuu of course so I still don't like it. ☆<span style="font-family:Algerian;">[[User:Solar Dragon|<font color="green">The</font> <font color="red">Solar</font> <font color="blue">Dragon</font>]] <sup>([[User talk:Solar Dragon|<font color="gold">talk</font>]])</sup></span>☆ 15:55, December 18, 2009 (UTC)
*: Well, Master hand was so filled with rage that he didn't think- he just charged. Remember, he has the power to create entire universes. He's not a kid. He was only one in the original SSB. [[Special:Contributions/98.117.158.220|98.117.158.220]] 05:32, January 19, 2010 (UTC)
*Will the second vote for oppose count even though it's unsigned?[[User:Highwaypumpy|<span style="color:Orange;">highway</span>]] [[Image:highwaypumpypic.png|20px]] [[User talk:Highwaypumpy|<span style="color:Red;">pumpy</span>]] 23:49, April 20, 2010 (UTC)
== Pokéballs vs Assist Trophies ==


==[[Battlefield]] Vs. [[Big Battlefield]]==
Yes, they may be items but which do you think is the better item? Both have random effects each time so they are similar, but different. [[User:Solar Dragon|<font color="red">Solar</font> <font color="blue">Dragon</font>]] ([[User talk:Solar Dragon|<font color="gold">Talk</font>]]) 13:43, September 4, 2009 (UTC)
Pretty simple idea. Battlefield vs its big bro. --[[User:Myth|<font color="orange">'''Myth'''</font>]] [[File:Myth Kirby.png|19px|link=User talk:Myth]] 12:05, 28 December 2018 (EST)


=== Support ===
=== Support ===
Not a bad idea. <span style="color:lightblue">Everone123</span> ([[User:Everone123|userpage]] • [[User talk:Everone123|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Everone123|contribs]]) 22:15, 7 January 2019 (EST)
#Two very powerful items with hidden secrets...You have my support. -.- <font face="calibri" size="3">[[User:SapphireKirby777|<span style="color:blue">SapphireKirby</span>]]</font>[[User Talk:SapphireKirby777|<span style="color:gold">'''777'''</span>]] 19:17, September 4, 2009 (UTC)
#Intresting. I'd love to see items in the Smash Arena. [[User:Smash Shadic|<font color="red">Smash</font> <font color="grey">Shadic</font>]] 22:03, September 5, 2009 (UTC)
#Cool. It'd be like a war bewtween all of the NPCs. [[Special:Contributions/220.253.234.33|220.253.234.33]] 03:05, September 16, 2009 (UTC)
#Sure, why not? [[Special:Contributions/220.253.239.109|220.253.239.109]] 05:07, October 15, 2009 (UTC)
#I had this very idea myself... you remind me of me.(that's a compliment) '''[[User:Ike's Best Buddy|<span  (though mustyle="color:Red">Ike's</span> <span style="color:Brown">Best</span> <span style="color:Maroon">Buddy</span>]][[User Talk:Ike's Best Buddy|<small><sup><span style="color:silver">Here, my Friends</span></sup></small>]]'''
#¡¡BRILLIANT!!--[[User:Lazer81095|Lazer81095]] ([[User talk:Lazer81095|talk]]) 00:31, November 3, 2009 (UTC)
#Both are pretty much the most overpowered and overused items in the game, rivaling a smash ball. Go ahead! Seems good.[[User:HavocReaper48|HavocReaper48]] ([[User talk:HavocReaper48|talk]]) 20:02, November 4, 2009 (UTC)
#A rather obvious but great matchup nonetheless. Both have the potential to be useless or gamebreaking (though this is much more the case with the pokeball).[[User:Omega Tyrant|Omega Tyrant]] [[Image: TyranitarMS.png | 25px]] 02:01, April 21, 2010 (UTC)


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=== Oppose ===
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=== Comments ===
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No contest. Big Battlefield wins (Bigger means better). Try coming up with something else. --[[User:JackyBlooo|JackyBlooo]] ([[User talk:JackyBlooo|talk]]) 08:52, 3 January 2019 (EST)
== Falco vs. Captain Falcon ==


=== Comments ===
'''Falco''', who is enraged by the intrusion of an outsider into the [[Space animals|Space Animals' domain]], challenges the now-defending, yet ever-arrogant '''Captain Falcon'''. These two egotistic pilots now duke it out in the Arena! Their differences set apart these fighters! One is a bird, the other flies a "bird"; the former prefers to slice and blast in the air, while the latter prefers to sprint quickly along the ground and barrage with lightning-fast speed. And they both have taunts that have become Internet memes! (''Hands off my '''bread'''!'' and ''Show me '''your moves'''!'', anyone?) So, which flyer do you like? [[User:RAN1|<font color="darkturquoise">R</font><font color="darkgreen">A</font><font color="coral">N</font><font color="blue">1</font>]][[User talk:RAN1|<font color="red">domchu</font>]][[Special:Contributions|<font color="navy">punch!!!</font>]] 02:47, November 5, 2009 (UTC)
 
====Support====
#Cool description. I like it. ☆<span style="font-family:Algerian;">[[User:Solar Dragon|<font color="green">The</font> <font color="red">Solar</font> <font color="blue">Dragon</font>]] <sup>([[User talk:Solar Dragon|<font color="gold">talk</font>]])</sup></span>☆ 06:22, November 5, 2009 (UTC)
#Battle of the birds that can't even fly! >:D Seems kinda good. I'll show you my support!<span style="font-family:Forte;">[[User:HavocReaper48|<font color="brown">HavocReaper48</font>]][[User talk:HavocReaper48|<font color="darkblue"> >:D!!!</font>]][[User:HavocReaper48/Emoticonology|<font color="black"> ¬_¬</font>]]</span> 01:50, November 10, 2009 (UTC)
#Yeah. Awesome idea! [[Special:Contributions/220.253.196.132|220.253.196.132]] 06:00, November 13, 2009 (UTC)
#For a long time, I got them confused. [[Special:Contributions/98.117.158.220|98.117.158.220]] 05:12, February 6, 2010 (UTC)
#I am rather surprised this matchup nevered happened, this is certainly one of the best matchups possible, even if it is somewhat obvious. This is also by far the best intro for any of the suggestions.[[User:Omega Tyrant|Omega Tyrant]] [[Image: TyranitarMS.png | 25px]] 02:01, April 21, 2010 (UTC)
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== Link vs. Toon Link ==
 
The two Brawl incarnations of Link come to fight in the Smash Arena! Both have very similar movesets, a cloned Final Smash, and have had different roles in the Legend of Zelda series. Who will win, the Hero of Hyrule or the Hero of Winds? [[User:SuperSmasher94|SuperSmasher94]] ([[User talk:SuperSmasher94|talk]]) 02:29, November 13, 2009 (UTC)
 
===Support===
#Similar to the Toon Link vs Young Link one but still good. [[Special:Contributions/220.253.196.132|220.253.196.132]] 06:00, November 13, 2009 (UTC)
#Two characters based on each other so yes. ☆<span style="font-family:Algerian;">[[User:Solar Dragon|<font color="green">The</font> <font color="red">Solar</font> <font color="blue">Dragon</font>]] <sup>([[User talk:Solar Dragon|<font color="gold">talk</font>]])</sup></span>☆ 06:17, November 13, 2009 (UTC)
#Interesting...Young Link's replacement versus Young Link's older self. O_o. <span style="font-family:Forte;">[[User:HavocReaper48|<font color="brown">Havoc</font>]][[User talk:HavocReaper48|<font color="brown">Reaper48</font>]][[User:HavocReaper48/Emoticonology|<font color="purepurple"> >:D!!!</font>]]</span> 18:40, November 15, 2009 (UTC)
#My main is Toon Link,so let me brawl and Link will lose!08:58,December 23,2009
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#Predictable. [[Special:Contributions/98.117.158.220|98.117.158.220]] 18:33, November 15, 2009 (UTC)
#A battle of semi-clones? This is too obvious.[[User:Omega Tyrant|Omega Tyrant]] [[Image: TyranitarMS.png | 25px]] 02:01, April 21, 2010 (UTC)
 
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==Pokémon Stadium 1 vs. Pokémon Stadium 2==
The two Pokémon stadiums. Each has different effects. Which will win? The one from [[Melee]] or the one from [[Brawl]]? ☆<span style="font-family:Algerian;">[[User:Solar Dragon|<font color="green">The</font> <font color="red">Solar</font> <font color="blue">Dragon</font>]] <sup>([[User talk:Solar Dragon|<font color="gold">talk</font>]])</sup></span>☆ 15:49, December 11, 2009 (UTC)
 
===Support===
#Sounds good, nice to see more of Melee vs. Brawl style battles here. >:) <span style="font-family:Harlow Solid Italic;">[[User:HavocReaper48|<font color="DARKBLUE">Havoc</font>]][[User talk:HavocReaper48|<font color="DARKBLUE">Reaper</font>]][[User:HavocReaper48/Emoticonology|<span style='color="CYAN"'>48</span>]]</span> 19:57, December 11, 2009 (UTC)
#The Pokemon Stadiums are far from being "the same". They transform into different stages and even their basic stages has differences (one has misleading edges). [[User:Omega Tyrant|Omega Tyrant]] [[Image: TyranitarMS.png | 25px]] 02:01, April 21, 2010 (UTC)
 
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#Same thing. [[Special:Contributions/98.117.158.220|98.117.158.220]] 00:33, December 19, 2009 (UTC)
 
===Comments===
*98.117.158.220, did you maybe put that in the wrong section by saying 'same thing', isn't that agreeing with him. ☆<span style="font-family:Algerian;">[[User:Solar Dragon|<font color="green">The</font> <font color="red">Solar</font> <font color="blue">Dragon</font>]] <sup>([[User talk:Solar Dragon|<font color="gold">Merry Christmas</font>]])</sup></span>☆ 21:30, December 19, 2009 (UTC)
:*Sorry if I wasn't clear. I meant that the two choices were pretty much the exact same thing. In the future I'll try to be clearer. [[Special:Contributions/98.117.158.220|98.117.158.220]] 05:37, December 29, 2009 (UTC)
 
==Crazy Hand vs. Master Hand==
Two partners now versus each other who would win?[[User:Minisure25|'''<span style="color:purple;background:pink">Minisure25</span>''']] <small>[[User talk:Minisure25|Talk to me!]]</small> 21:45, December 28, 2009 (UTC)
 
===Support===
#Surprised it hasn't beed done before. Long due now so yes. ☆<span style="font-family:Algerian;">[[User:Solar Dragon|<font color="green">The</font> <font color="red">Solar</font> <font color="blue">Dragon</font>]] <sup>([[User talk:Solar Dragon|<font color="gold">Happy New Year</font>]])</sup></span>☆ 21:40, January 1, 2010 (UTC)
#See above. <span style="font-family:Harlow Solid Italic;">[[User:HavocReaper48|<font color="darkblue">Havoc</font>]][[User talk:HavocReaper48|<font color="blue">Reaper</font>]][[w:c:ssb:User:HavocReaper48/Emoticonology|<span style='color="cyan"'>48</span>]]</span> 14:53, February 6, 2010 (UTC)
#Like the Falco vs. Captain Falcon matchup, a great matchup that should've been done a long time ago.[[User:Omega Tyrant|Omega Tyrant]] [[Image: TyranitarMS.png | 25px]] 02:01, April 21, 2010 (UTC)
 
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===Comments===
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==Rayquaza vs. Meta Ridley==
Two flying metal bosses in the SSE but which is the best? The Pokémon or the Ridley? ☆<span style="font-family:Algerian;">[[User:Solar Dragon|<font color="green">The</font> <font color="red">Solar</font> <font color="blue">Dragon</font>]] <sup>([[User talk:Solar Dragon|<font color="gold">Happy New Year</font>]])</sup></span>☆ 21:43, January 1, 2010 (UTC)
 
===Support===
#Interesting. Two Dragons, one a slitherer and another a flier. Both being SSE bosses- Perfect. [[Special:Contributions/98.117.158.220|98.117.158.220]] 05:30, January 19, 2010 (UTC)
#Rayquaza is epic, I'm surprised he hasn't been in an arena-battle. Looks pretty good to me. <span style="font-family:Harlow Solid Italic;">[[User:HavocReaper48|<font color="darkblue">Havoc</font>]][[User talk:HavocReaper48|<font color="blue">Reaper</font>]][[w:c:ssb:User:HavocReaper48/Emoticonology|<span style='color="cyan"'>48</span>]]</span> 00:59, February 16, 2010 (UTC)
#You always come up the greatest fights. [[User:Smash Shadic|<font color="red">Smash</font> <font color="grey">Shadic</font>]] 21:44, March 6, 2010(UTC)
 
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#Rayquaza isn't metal, so this matchup doesn't have much going for it. I would vote for it if it was Ridley instead of Meta Ridley, a vastly superior matchup.[[User:Omega Tyrant|Omega Tyrant]] [[Image: TyranitarMS.png | 25px]] 02:01, April 21, 2010 (UTC)
 
===Comments===
*You got the introduction wrong, Rayquaza isn't metal.[[User:Omega Tyrant|Omega Tyrant]] ([[User talk:Omega Tyrant|talk]]) 10:02, April 20, 2010 (UTC)
**Well, he looks metal. ☆<span style="font-family:Algerian;">[[User:Solar Dragon|<font color="green">The</font> <font color="red">Solar</font> <font color="blue">Dragon</font>]] <sup>([[User talk:Solar Dragon|<font color="gold">Talk</font>]])</sup></span>☆ 21:02, April 20, 2010 (UTC)
 
==Link vs. Samus==
A young skilled swordsman with a sword, shield, and a large amount of weapons against a young woman with a technological exoskeleton at her disposal--[[User:Power courage wisdom and time|Power courage wisdom and time]] ([[User talk:Power courage wisdom and time|talk]]) 21:17, January 17, 2010 (UTC)
===Support===
#Well, the battle description needs a major rewrite, but I think this will turn out to be quite an interesting battle…the new vs. the old, among other things. '''[[User:RAN1|<font color="darkred">R</font>]][[User talk:RAN1|<font color="navy">A</font>]][[Special:Contributions/RAN1|<font color="darkgreen">N</font>]]1''' 03:38, January 18, 2010 (UTC)
#Their specials are very similar, they're one of the originals, let's give this a chance. <span style="font-family:Harlow Solid Italic;">[[User:HavocReaper48|<font color="green">Havoc</font>]][[User talk:HavocReaper48|<font color="SKYBLUE">Reaper</font>]][[w:c:ssb:User:HavocReaper48/Emoticonology|<span style='color="blue"'>48</span>]]</span> 00:30, January 20, 2010 (UTC)
#The two biggest projectile users in the series plus they are more than cabaple of fighting up close (at least they could in ''Melee''). Very good matchup.[[User:Omega Tyrant|Omega Tyrant]] [[Image: TyranitarMS.png | 25px]] 02:01, April 21, 2010 (UTC)
 
===Oppose===
#Have '''nothing''' in common. [[Special:Contributions/98.117.158.220|98.117.158.220]] 03:24, January 18, 2010 (UTC)
#Doesn't appeal to me. ☆<span style="font-family:Algerian;">[[User:Solar Dragon|<font color="green">The</font> <font color="red">Solar</font> <font color="blue">Dragon</font>]] <sup>([[User talk:Solar Dragon|<font color="gold">Talk</font>]])</sup></span>☆ 07:34, January 19, 2010 (UTC)
 
===Comments===
*I would like to counter the first opposition,


== [[Luigi's Mansion]] vs. [[Dracula's Castle]] ==
1.They are both projectile smashers.  


Two locations, one being a haunted mansion in the middle of a spooky forest that is home to a green-clad  plumber, the other being a giant castle on the outskirts of Transylvania that is home to an evil vampire, both places equally spooky. --[[User:JackyBlooo|JackyBlooo]] ([[User talk:JackyBlooo|talk]]) 08:56, 3 January 2019 (EST)
2. Both have appeared in all three SSB games.  


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3. Both have varations, Link and Toon Link, Samus and Zero Suit Samus
I think another fun connection is Dracula's Castle used to replace Luigi's Mansion in PM. --[[User:Myth|<font color="orange">'''Myth'''</font>]] [[File:Myth Kirby.png|19px|link=User talk:Myth]] 18:32, 19 January 2019 (EST)


This is my kind of battle! [[User:Dragonfirebreath25|Dragonfirebreath25]] ([[User talk:Dragonfirebreath25|talk]]) 18:35, 19 January 2019 (EST)
Also I'm also open to any new battle description--[[User:Power courage wisdom and time|Power courage wisdom and time]] ([[User talk:Power courage wisdom and time|talk]]) 04:24, January 18, 2010 (UTC)


Yeah both places can be considered scary places. It would make a perfect battle. [[File:George Jones.jpg|25px]] [[User:Corrin Fan|Corrin Fan]] [[File:Walls Can Fall.jpg|25px]] 14:25, 21 January 2019 (EST)
:You would have better time saying that Link and '''mario''' would be a better battle. "They are both projectile smashers", "Both have appeared in all three SSB games", and they both also have variations, Toon Link and Dr. Mario. Toon Link cannot be compared to Zamus. At all. The only three things I see in common are
:#The both have recoveries that involve spinning
:#They both have tethers as grabs
:That's all. They're games are different, Metroid being an FPS while LoZ being an RPG. Different personalities, Samus being a bounty hunter while Link being... an explorer? Only suggest something if it's very similar or "parallel"- like Master Hand and Crazy hand. [[Special:Contributions/98.117.158.220|98.117.158.220]] 05:28, January 19, 2010 (UTC)


Seems like a fun idea. [[User:Crazy456Rhino|Crazy456Rhino]] ([[User talk:Crazy456Rhino|talk]]) 13:07, April 18, 2019 (EDT)
::Link versus Samus is much more original than Link versus Mario and both their first games were non-linear, also the point is that they are near polar opposites, One is more medieval era and one is futuristic, not to mention they are of about the same age and of different genders. (That is not meant to be takin as a sexist comment.) They were both created to attract a wider fanbase, Link as an RPG and Samus as an First Person shooter. You yourself, have even mentioned two more similiarties. They also both have their own loyal fanbase. Anything else?--[[User:Power courage wisdom and time|Power courage wisdom and time]] ([[User talk:Power courage wisdom and time|talk]]) 01:08, January 20, 2010 (UTC)


Giving this a vote since the current arena seriously needs to end already. Also the PM trivia is neat.<span style="font-family: Algerian"> '''[[User: supatoad64|<span style="color:blue;"> Supα Toαd 64,</span>]] [[User talk: supatoad64|<span style="color:aqua;"> The Best </span>]]''' </span> [[ Image: MK64ToadCSP.jpg|20px ]] 09:15, August 31, 2019 (EDT)
:For the sake of accuracy, the Metroid series is not an FPS. That's the Prime series. I doubt anyone would call ''Metroid Fusion'' an FPS. '''[[User:RAN1|<font color="darkred">R</font>]][[User talk:RAN1|<font color="navy">A</font>]][[Special:Contributions/RAN1|<font color="darkgreen">N</font>]]1''' 01:21, January 20, 2010 (UTC)
:::Pikmin is futuristic and has a loyal fanbase, but does that mean that Zelda and Pikmin are similar? of course not. Metroid was originaly a sidescroller, Legend of Zelda was not. And them being different genders means nothing. And they are not the same age. Link is a teenages/ young boy and Samus is an adult. Link refers to many people. Samus refers to one. LoZ is not Midevil; they have trains. And their attacks are not similar at the least. [[Special:Contributions/98.117.158.220|98.117.158.220]] 02:14, January 20, 2010 (UTC)


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For the sake of my sanity let us refer to Link as the one who appears in Twilight Princess, Since that is the Link the SSBB on is based off of. Pikmin is more cormmical, Zelda and Metroid series have more serious themes to them. Metroid was created from the non-linearity of The Legend of Zelda series and the side-scrolling of Mario. Link is of about the age of 18, no more. Samus is about the age of her younger twenties (???). Pretty close age group. In Twilight Princess, it is obviously medieval there are no trains. Once more with the attacks, projectile smashers, spinning recovery, they grab with an item allowing farther range,  and they're arrow/charge shot can be powered up depending on how long you hold the button. Anymore comments? :P--[[User:Power courage wisdom and time|Power courage wisdom and time]] ([[User talk:Power courage wisdom and time|talk]]) 23:02, January 20, 2010 (UTC)
=== Comment ===
:Ok. Look. This has gone far enough. It is his personal opinion that they have nothing in common. Others may feel that but there will be some who agree with you. It is the same on lots of battles here. There is no need for an argument about it. ☆<span style="font-family:Algerian;">[[User:Solar Dragon|<font color="green">The</font> <font color="red">Solar</font> <font color="blue">Dragon</font>]] <sup>([[User talk:Solar Dragon|<font color="gold">Talk</font>]])</sup></span>☆ 07:08, January 21, 2010 (UTC)


==[[Bayonetta]] vs. [[Joker]]==
== Pikachu vs Jigglypuff ==


Both are black clad, gun wielding, Sega owned (well, kinda for Joker), DLC fighters. But which one will come out on top? [[User:Crazy456Rhino|Crazy456Rhino]] ([[User talk:Crazy456Rhino|talk]]) 13:07, April 18, 2019 (EDT)
Battle of the original Pokémon in the Super Smash Bros. series. Pikachu, the electric mouse vs. Jigglypuff, the pink ball. Both were in from the start, rivaling each other as the best Pokémon. ☆<span style="font-family:Algerian;">[[User:Solar Dragon|<font color="green">The</font> <font color="red">Solar</font> <font color="blue">Dragon</font>]] <sup>([[User talk:Solar Dragon|<font color="gold">Talk</font>]])</sup></span>☆ 14:17, March 13, 2010 (UTC)


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* Bayonetta and Joker are extremely similar, this battle could make a difference. [[File:Derekblue1SigHead1.png|20px|link=]] [[User:Derekblue1|<span style="color:#20B2AA;">'''Derekblue1'''</span>]] [[User talk:Derekblue1|<span style="color:#20B2AA;">(talk)</span>]] [[File:Derekblue1SigHead2.png|20px|link=]] 09:54, April 15, 2020 (EDT)
#They're smash veterans and they're of the original 150, why not? '''''<span style="font-family: Monotype Corsiva;">[[User:HavocReaper48|<font color="cyan ">Havoc</font>]][[User talk:HavocReaper48|<font color="#007FFF">Reaper</font>]][[w:c:ssb:User:HavocReaper48/Emoticonology|'48]]</span>''''' 19:25, April 11, 2010 (UTC)


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#Just because they were the two playable pokemon in the original doesn't mean this will be a good matchup, especially since Jigglypuff shouldn't have been in Smash Bros. in the first place (Mewtwo should have been in both the first SSB and in Brawl instead of Jigglypuff). Also, Pikachu and Jigglypuff are far, far , FAR from being even close to being the best pokemon.[[User:Omega Tyrant|Omega Tyrant]] [[Image: TyranitarMS.png | 25px]] 02:01, April 21, 2010 (UTC)


===Comments===
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*For the person who removed this, why? It has not been done before. ☆<span style="font-family:Algerian;">[[User:Solar Dragon|<font color="green">The</font> <font color="red">Solar</font> <font color="blue">Dragon</font>]] <sup>([[User talk:Solar Dragon|<font color="gold">Talk</font>]])</sup></span>☆ 18:05, March 13, 2010 (UTC)


==[[Mario]] vs. [[Donkey Kong]] vs. [[Pacman]]==
== SSBM Ganondorf vs. SSBB Ganondorf ==


All three are iconic fighters who were huge hits in the early 1980s, shoot projectiles, and are great at rescuing people. But things have been bubbling around Peach since Wii U, and there is only one way to settle things. Which will get the princess? [[User:Met3oR|Met3oR]] ([[User talk:Met3oR|talk]]) 22:17, April 13, 2020
Which Ganondorf was superior? The Ganondorf from Ocarina of Time or the Ganondorf from Twilight Princess? Its power and athleticism vs. pure brute strength.[[User:Omega Tyrant|Omega Tyrant]] ([[User talk:Omega Tyrant|talk]]) 09:56, April 20, 2010 (UTC)


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#Umm, so Ganondorf vs. Ganondorf... ☆<span style="font-family:Algerian;">[[User:Solar Dragon|<font color="green">The</font> <font color="red">Solar</font> <font color="blue">Dragon</font>]] <sup>([[User talk:Solar Dragon|<font color="gold">Talk</font>]])</sup></span>☆ 21:01, April 20, 2010 (UTC)
#See above. Also, look, we may as well have Captain Falcon (SSBM) vs. Captain Falcon (SSBB) as well. Not liking the idea tbh. ''<span style="font-family: Blue Highway Linocut;">[[User:HavocReaper48|<font color="#87CEEB">--Havoc</font>]][[User talk:HavocReaper48|<font color="#007FFF ">Reaper</font>]][[w:c:ssb:User:HavocReaper48/Emoticonology|'48]]</span>'' 21:12, April 20, 2010 (UTC)
#See above and the comments section. [[Special:Contributions/98.111.95.78|98.111.95.78]] 02:11, April 21, 2010 (UTC)
#You are sorely mistaken. The Captain Falcon in brawl is someone else playing as him. There is no way he can't kill that well --[[User:KoRoBeNiKi|KoRoBeNiKi]] ([[User talk:KoRoBeNiKi|talk]]) 02:33, April 21, 2010 (UTC)


===Comments===
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*Well HavocReaper48, it is the same Captain Falcon in both Smash Bros (it is just one is horribly nerfed). However, it is two different Ganondorfs in the two Super Smash Bros. So don't just pass this off as a battle of the same character.[[User:Omega Tyrant|Omega Tyrant]] [[Image: TyranitarMS.png | 25px]] 02:01, April 21, 2010 (UTC)
:*No it isn't. I don't mean to be rude, but have you played the Zelda series? It's the '''SAME''' Ganon in every game. He's the only constant. [[Special:Contributions/98.111.95.78|98.111.95.78]] 02:10, April 21, 2010 (UTC)
::*Yeah. You'll wanna make the to two things you wanna suggest opposites (i.e. my Diddy Kong vs. Donkey Kong). Try a different suggestion next week? ''<span style="font-family: Blue Highway Linocut;">[[User:HavocReaper48|<font color="#87CEEB">--Havoc</font>]][[User talk:HavocReaper48|<font color="#007FFF ">Reaper</font>]][[w:c:ssb:User:HavocReaper48/Emoticonology|'48]]</span>'' 02:27, April 21, 2010 (UTC)
:::*Well I have played the Zelda series and technically they are the "same" Ganondorf but they are from two different timelines/storylines and two different games. His appearance and voice are quite different in the two games and he had the biggest change in appearance in the two SSB games (Falco had a bigger change to his attacks however). To me, they are different Ganondorfs. I would never considered the Ganondorf from ''Wind Waker'' to be the same Ganondorf in ''Ocarina of Time''. They may be the same being, but they are NOT the same character. [[User:Omega Tyrant|Omega Tyrant]] [[Image: TyranitarMS.png | 25px]] 02:43, April 21, 2010 (UTC)
*Well KoRoBeNiKi, you do have a point. I have heard rumors that Captain Falcon in Brawl is actually Rick Wheeler and it is certainly plausible. I didn't think this matchup would be this unpopular but then again it was no contest from the beginning. ''Melee/OoT's'' Ganondorf would simply destroy ''Brawl/TP's'' Ganondorf. [[User:Omega Tyrant|Omega Tyrant]] [[Image: TyranitarMS.png | 25px]] 02:50, April 21, 2010 (UTC)
::::*The Zelda game has continuity! The games are in the same universe. It may have a really hard to understand continuity, but it has one. If you're talking about the split timeline theory, even then it's the same Ganon (it's really weird because Oot splits the timeline into wind Waker and Twilight Princess). It doesn't matter whether there's a change because Mario looks significantly different between the games, but it's the same Mario. The only characters who aren't the same between two SSB are Zelda and Link. [[Special:Contributions/98.111.95.78|98.111.95.78]] 03:17, April 21, 2010 (UTC)
:::::*Still at this? There is no "official" timeline for the Zelda series. Mario does not look significantly different in each game, he just gets a graphical update. Mario doesn't get fatter, a different hairstyle, a smaller nose, different clothing/armor, and a higher pitch voice in the transition from ''Super Mario 64'' to ''Super Mario Galaxy''. No matter what you or anyone says, I consider them to be different Ganondorfs. They look different, they sound different, and most importantly, they play differently (you also fight Ganondorf drastically different in ''OoT'' and ''TP''). Besides, I already admitted the fault of this suggestion. [[User:Omega Tyrant|Omega Tyrant]] [[Image: TyranitarMS.png | 25px]] 03:38, April 21, 2010 (UTC)
::::::*OK, maybe I can't change your opinion, but the fact remains that it '''explicitly''' says in TP (lol) that Ganondorf had been sentenced to death due to his earlier actions (obviously refering to OoT). Ganondorfs changes in appearence is because he aged a heck lot between the two games. [[Special:Contributions/98.111.95.78|98.111.95.78]] 03:52, April 21, 2010 (UTC)
:::::::*Ok then, I'm glad that we have an understanding. The aging explains his loss of muscle and why he is slower '''but''' it doesn't explain the smaller nose. Either way, to regain the weight he lost due to the loss of muscle mass between the transition between ''Melee'' and ''Brawl'', he wears much heavier armor, thus explaining why he is so much slower and can't jump at all (though he wasn't a "good" jumper in ''Melee'' either, but not as bad). [[User:Omega Tyrant|Omega Tyrant]] [[Image: TyranitarMS.png | 25px]] 04:08, April 21, 2010 (UTC)


==[[Pikachu]] vs. [[Lucas]]==
== SmashWiki vs. SmashArena ==


Both have the power of Thor. [[User:Met3oR|Met3oR]] ([[User talk:Met3oR|talk]]) 14:38, May 09, 2020
...You knew it was coming.  Does SmashWiki finally get rid of the Battle Arena once and for all...?


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#Oh, come on. Nothing to do with the Smash Universe. And, Smash Arena is a part of SmashWiki. ☆<span style="font-family:Algerian;">[[User:Solar Dragon|<font color="green">The</font> <font color="red">Solar</font> <font color="blue">Dragon</font>]] <sup>([[User talk:Solar Dragon|<font color="gold">Talk</font>]])</sup></span>☆ 06:26, April 21, 2010 (UTC)
#I just joined a month ago, I'll like to vote for more Smash Arena battles then just Bowser vs. Yoshi. [[User:Omega Tyrant|Omega Tyrant]] [[Image: TyranitarMS.png | 25px]] 12:46, April 21, 2010 (UTC)


===Comments===
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*Quick heads up, the wiki's Smash Arena has been discontinued in favor of the Discord server's. The suggestions should go there instead. [[User:Cookies and Creme|<span style="font-family: Georgia;color: black;">Cookies</span>]][[File:CnC Signature.png|20px]][[User talk:Cookies and Creme|<span style="font-family: Georgia; color: black;">Creme</span>]] 11:15, May 9, 2020 (EDT)

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