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<div class="usermessage">[[Image:Stop_Hand.png|left|45px|]]While this page is no longer protected, failure to adhere to this page's Rules section will result in suggestions being closed again. Read the Rules section carefully before considering '''''any''''' edits to this forum.</div>


This forum has the purpose of helping to select what battles will eventually take place in the [[Forum:Smash Arena|Smash Arena]]. If you would like to make a suggestion, please feel free to leave it here. '''''New suggestions are placed at the bottom of the page'''''. Be sure to state your reason you suggested it and put the support, reject, and comments sections underneath it.
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Like the idea? Be sure to give it your support. Note that this page is not to be used for the actual voting between fighters; that happens in the Arena itself. Remember, the combatants don't necessarily have to be able to fight each other normally in Smash Bros.
This forum has the purpose of helping to select what will battles will eventually take place in the [[Forum:The Smash Arena Character Battles|Smash Arena]]. If you would like to make a suggestion, please feel free to leave it here. '''''New suggestions are placed at the bottom of the page'''''. Be sure to state your reasons why you suggested it and put the support, reject, and comments sections underneath it.<br><br>
Like the idea? Be sure to give it your support. Note that this page is not to be used for the actual voting between fighters; that happens in the Arena itself. Remember, the combatants don't necessarily have to be able to fight each other normally in Smash.<br><br>
If you would like to see what people have suggested in the past, please refer to this page's archives.


=Rules=
=Rules=
===Posting suggestions===
*Only signed-on users only can suggest a battle.
*Only Smash Bros.-related fights are permitted. Fights don't have to be between playable characters, but the combatants must have appeared in at least one Smash Bros. game.
*Sign your suggestions/votes/comments with <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> and a # in front of it (you don't necessarily have to put # in the comments sections, but you do have to sign with <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>).  
**Outside very specific circumstances, no fights are allowed between combatants that only appear in a game (or a batch of downloadable content) that has yet to be released.
*Don't vote for your own suggestion. You automatically vote for it if you suggest it.
*If there are already 10 open suggestions, you should probably reconsider adding a new one. If there are 15, it is highly recommended you do not. There is no limit to the number of open suggestions, but having too many clutters the page and makes it more difficult to keep track of.
*'''A user can only suggest one fight per week'''. (i.e.- you can't suggest 3 fights at one time)
*[[SmashWiki:Smash Arena#History|Check this list]] to view the fights that have been done. Repeat fights are permitted if they occurred '''100 or more rounds ago'''. As matchups over 100 rounds ago are moved off that particular list, the list is the definitive source on what can't be repeated. Note that repeats close to this cutoff may still be valid if the queue is full enough that the fight's acceptance will allow it to be outside the 100-round zone.
*Post WHY you support/oppose. Don't say, "Oh, Link is much hotter than Snake"! Explain why you like the fight.  
*Do not post more than one suggestion at a time. Each user may post '''one suggestion per week''' (i.e. one every seven days).
*You can remove your own suggestion, but you may not post a new suggestion until next week.
*'''Sign your suggestions/votes/comments with <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> and a # in front of it''' (you don't necessarily have to put # in the comments sections, but you do have to sign with <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>).
*Place new suggestions at '''THE BOTTOM''' of page. If you place them at the top, they will be lost when we archive the page. You have been warned.
*Place new suggestions at '''the bottom''' of the page.
*Do NOT use this page to argue with other users over their reasons and opinions. You can civilly point out an inconsistency or mistake in their description, but if you say things like "That's so stupid" that could potentially start an argument in the Comments, you are breaching the rule. Anyone who breaches this rule will have their opinion on that suggestion removed along with the conversation.
*You can retract and remove your own suggestion, but it still counts as your suggestion for that week.
*The comments section is to be used for '''relevant''' comments.
**If your suggestion is removed because it's invalid or because your week isn't up, it doesn't count as your suggestion for that week. That said, users who constantly post invalid or rapid-fire suggestions may be suspended from suggesting for a few weeks, and may risk [[SW:PROB|probation]].
*The users running the Smash Arena have the final say over all of the fights.
*Similarly to the above, you cannot edit a suggestion once people have started to vote on it. Editing the description is fine, just don't alter the combatants.
*Don't suggest fights that are already done or have been in already placed on the Queued list already. (Check the queued list if your suggestion is already listed for being place for a fight in the next few weeks). [[Forum:Smash Arena#Fights|Check this list]] to view any fights that have been done. No duplicate fights are permitted.
*ONLY fights that are related to Super Smash Bros. It can be between two characters from the series only. No characters from Mario, Legend of Zelda, or other games that haven't been in the games. Non-playable characters, like the assist trophies and Pokéball Pokémon are allowed, as long as they appear in the SSB series.
*It doesn't really matter if they are in total different SSB games. As long as they are in the SSB series, they can fight each other in the Arena.
*And please, under no circumstances, '''DO NOT MAKE THIS PAGE INTO THE SMASH ARENA ITSELF!''' This is for deciding what goes there, not voting on which would win.


===Voting and comments===
=Show Your Support=
*Don't vote on your own suggestion.
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*Post '''why''' you support/oppose. Don't just say, "Oh, this is a cool idea". Explain why you like/don't like the fight. This is not required but adds credence to your opinion - remember, suggestions are not accepted or rejected based on a simple vote count.
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*The comments section is to be used for relevant comments only.
<nowiki>{{SA Box}}</nowiki> - Userbox made for the Smash Arena by [[User:Squallinoa_08|Squallinoa 08]]. Please, if you wish, place these on your user pages. It will tell you the new fights every week.
*Do not use this page to argue with other users over their reasons and opinions. You can civilly point out an inconsistency or mistake in their description, but if you say things like, "That's stupid", that could potentially start an argument in the comments, you are breaching this rule.
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*'''Do not make this page into the Smash Arena itself.''' This is for deciding what goes there, not voting on the winner.


===Acceptance or rejection===
=Suggestions=
*'''The SA operator(s) has final say over all the fights.''' Suggestions and comments are merely a way for the community to influence the fights, and can be used, edited, or ignored at the operator(s)'s discretion.
Remember, <big>'''''New suggestions are placed at the bottom of the page'''''</big>.
*Acceptance of fights is not based simply on votes. The votes are used to judge the community's opinion of the matchup; again it is solely the operator(s)'s decision on what the bouts are.
*Suggestions are purged every time a new Smash Arena round is posted. It is at this time they are either accepted and placed into the queue, or they are rejected. Not all suggestions are purged at once - only those that are both older than the rest and have higher vote counts. Usually suggestions need at least 5 votes to be decided upon, unless they are very old.
**In the vein of the above, do not repost a suggestion of yours that has been removed recently, since it's either already lined up or been rejected. See the Queue section for an idea of how long it may take for your suggestion to show up.
*If a suggestion of yours has been rejected in the past, you may repost it three months (90 days) after its rejection. However, it is unlikely for a rejected suggestion to be accepted in the future, so it is likely more productive to suggest something else.
*Descriptions are not guaranteed to be included as-is should a suggestion pass.


=Tips=
== Zelda vs Mewtwo==
*In most cases, the combatants of a match should share similarities but have key differences. However, matchups between total opposites are also interesting. Avoid the middle ground where combatants have little in common but are also not polar opposites.
The two most powerful wielders of supernatural arts in smash have met. Which is stronger? Zelda's magic, or Mewtwo's psychic abilities? '''[[User:Gutripper|<span style="color:orange">Gutripper</span>]][[User Talk:Gutripper|<small><sup><span style="color:Black">Speak</span></sup></small>]]'''
*Protagonist vs. antagonist matches (e.g. Mario vs. Bowser) are valid, and many of them succeed in the arena, but are usually pushed aside by the community in favour of matchups that are less "obvious". Matchups born from in-game events (e.g. Subspace Emissary groupings) or matchups that are big in their home universes but not necessarily in Smash Bros. (e.g. legendary Pokémon fights) tend to fall into this as well.
*While rematches are valid once 100 rounds have passed, do not expect much enthusiasm for them unless the original match was very close or a tie.
*Regular matches (one-on-one) are favoured far more than three-way fights. If you have an idea for a three-way fight, see if one of the three combatants is really necessary, and try to get it down to two. Fights of more than three participants have to be sock-knocking genius in order to be even considered, so unless you're convinced it will be very popular, turn your efforts to something else.
*The description can sway peoples' opinions of a matchup. While the most interesting suggestions can be accepted on their own merits, those in the middle can be made or broken by how you present them.


=Queue=
===Support===
The current queue is as such:
{{SA Queue}}
Hover the cursor over a round number to see its predicted start date. Empty spots are shown in grey.


When the queue becomes full (all the grey spots are filled up), suggestions will be suspended. You may continue to vote on current suggestions, but no more may be proposed. Once the queue drains out to a size of one, suggestions will be re-opened.
#The description may not work, but I like it. Its clever. '''[[User:Toon Ganondorf|<span style="color:green">Toon</span> <span style="color:purple">Ganondorf</span>]]  [[User Talk:Toon Ganondorf|<span style="color:Gold">(t</span>]]  [[Special:Contributions/Toon Ganondorf|<span style="color:Gold">c)</span>]]'''
#Tipping t' balance. What's wrong with this idea? '''[[User:Pikabro|<span style="color:blue"> Pikabro</span>]][[User Talk:Pikabro|<small><sup><span style="color:darkorange">PIKA</span></sup></small>]][[Special:Contributions/Pikabro|<small><sup><span style="color:red">CHU!</span></sup></small>]]''' 08:34, 13 February 2009 (UTC)
#I have to support it. They're two highly unique characters. <font face="verdana" size="2">[[User:Baltro|<span style="color:red">'''Baltro'''</span>]]</font> <small>[ [[User Talk:Baltro|<span style="color:orangered">'''talk'''</span>]] ]</small> 23:31, 2 May 2009 (UTC)
#They both have great psychic or magical powers, I'm with it. [[User:Hyper Shadow|Hyper Shadow]] ([[User talk:Hyper Shadow|talk]]) 19:17, 26 May 2009 (UTC)
# <span style="border:2px bottomset black;background-color: black;-moz-border-radius:3px">'''[[User:The Horror|<font color="Red">The Horror</font>]]''''<sup>[[User_talk:The Horror|<font color="white">Speak if you dare</font>]]</sup></span> 16:39, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
#They both use magic/psychic powers. Who wouldn't want to see them battle?[[Image:Charizard.png|20 px]][[Image:Yoshi.jpg|20 px]][[Image:Rayquaza.jpg|20 px]]'''[[User:Lordzilla]]'''[[Image:Ridley.jpg|20 px]][[Image:Modea15 080317awk06.jpg|20 px]][[Image:Pokemon trainer.jpg|20 px]] 18:10, 18 June 2009 (UTC)
#This would be an interesting fight, considering that they both have magical powers. [[Special:Contributions/220.253.198.197|220.253.198.197]] 07:53, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
#Yeah, a battle of the magic wielders is a unique idea. [[Special:Contributions/220.253.197.146|220.253.197.146]] 06:56, 24 July 2009 (UTC)


The queue is not set in stone; new suggestions may appear before older ones and it may change at any time. The queue attempts to balance out fights so that specific participants or universes aren't used too much in a short time.
===Reject===
# This idea sucks. '''[[User:Blue Ninjakoopa|<span style="background:#000000;color:#99ffff">Blue Ninjakoopa</span>]]'''<sup>[[User talk:Blue Ninjakoopa|<span style="vertical-align:baseline;position:relative;bottom:0.36em;color:#0099ff">Talk</span>]]</sup> 07:13, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
#I agree with BNK. [[User:Unknown the Hedgehog|<font color="#FF0000">Unknown </font>]] [[User talk:Unknown the Hedgehog|<font color="#780000">the </font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Unknown the Hedgehog|<font color="000000">Hedgehog</font>]] 15:30, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
#Indeed.'''[[User:Smorekingxg456|<span style="color:#5F9EA0">Smoreking</span>]]<small><sup>[[User Talk:Smorekingxg456#Top|<span style="color:#00FF00">(T)</span>]]</sup></small><small><sub> [[Special:Contributions/Smorekingxg456|(c)]]</sub></small>''' 14:31, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
#I agree with BNK, which considering my crew, is very rare ;-) '''[[User:Ike's Best Buddy|<span style="color:Red">Ike's</span> <span style="color:Brown">Best</span> <span style="color:Maroon">Buddy</span>]][[User Talk:Ike's Best Buddy|<small><sup><span style="color:silver">Here, my Friends</span></sup></small>]]'''


The contents of the queue are a secret to maintain mystery and intrigue.
===Comment===
*For the reject voters, how is this worse than Captain Falcon and Sonic? <font face="verdana" size="2">[[User:Baltro|<span style="color:red">'''Baltro'''</span>]]</font> <small>[ [[User Talk:Baltro|<span style="color:orangered">'''talk'''</span>]] ]</small> 23:31, 2 May 2009 (UTC)
:*Because they actually '''have something in common'''. Mewtwo and Zelda is like Mario versus Toon Link; the idea is stupid and bland, possibly a sad attempt to grab attention. <span style="border:2px outset #ff66ff;background-color: #66ff99;-moz-border-radius:3px">'''[[User:Blue Ninjakoopa|<span style="color:#9900ff;">Blue</span>]] [[User talk:Blue Ninjakoopa|<span style="color:#9900ff">Ninjakoopa</span>]]'''</span> 00:03, 3 May 2009 (UTC)
PK Powerz any1?
::What a cheap and nasty comment to make, and highly irrelevant. '''[[User:Toon Ganondorf|<span style="color:green">Toon</span> <span style="color:purple">Ganondorf</span>]]  [[User Talk:Toon Ganondorf|<span style="color:Gold">(t</span>]]  [[Special:Contributions/Toon Ganondorf|<span style="color:Gold">c)</span>]]''' 09:33, 3 May 2009 (UTC)


=Show Your Support=
== Mario vs Donkey Kong ==
{{SA Box}}
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[[Template:SA Box|<code><nowiki>{{SA Box}}</nowiki></code>]] - Smash Arena userbox; originally by [[User:Squallinoa_08|Squallinoa 08]], modified by [[User:Toomai|Toomai]]. If you wish, place it on your user page. It will tell you the new fights as they happen.
 
=Template=
To make a suggestion the easy way, copy the following code, paste it into the bottom of the editing window, and fill out the relevant parts:
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==<participant 1> vs. <participant 2>==
 
<description of fight, maybe a few reasons you think it would be a good matchup> ~~~~


The two settle their score from the Masterpiece "Donkey Kong". Who will win? The savior or the beast?
===Support===
===Support===
*I support my idea. [[User:Masterman|<span style="color: fuchsia">Masterman</span>]] [[User talk:Masterman|<span style="color= blue">20</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Masterman|<span style="color: gold">09</span>]] 15:54, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
*EVERYONE WHO REJECTS THIS IS EPIC FAIL. This would be epic. If they can put up Mario vs. Bowser, then dammit they can put this up as well. '''[[User:Blue Ninjakoopa|<span style="background:#000000;color:#99ffff">Blue Ninjakoopa</span>]]'''<sup>[[User talk:Blue Ninjakoopa|<span style="vertical-align:baseline;position:relative;bottom:0.36em;color:#0099ff">Talk</span>]]</sup> 01:45, 14 January 2009 (UTC)
*I like this. It's the original fight from the first Mario game. -''[[User:Masq|<span style="color:green">Masq</span>]]'' <small>('''[[User talk:Masq|t]]'''/''[[Special:Contributions/Masq|c]]''/'''[[Special:Editcount/Masq|e]]''')</small> 03:08, 15 January 2009 (UTC)
*These are classic ideas. I like these. '''[[User:Gutripper|<span style="color:orange">Gutripper</span>]][[User Talk:Gutripper|<small><sup><span style="color:Black">Speak</span></sup></small>]]'''
*Good idea. Old rivalrys are exciting. Plus, my main hasn't had a shot in the arena yet. '''[[User:Toon Ganondorf|<span style="color:green">Toon</span> <span style="color:purple">Ganondorf</span>]]  [[User Talk:Toon Ganondorf|<span style="color:Gold">(t</span>]]  [[Special:Contributions/Toon Ganondorf|<span style="color:Gold">c)</span>]]'''
*This gets my vote: besides, if we have some fights queued that are obvious like Zelda and Shiek, I don't see anything wrong with this one. '''[[User:ClonedPickle|<span style="color:DarkTurquoise">Cloned</span>]][[User talk:ClonedPickle|<span style="color:DarkGreen">Pickle</span>]]''' 20:35, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
*My dad would blow all of his allowance playing the original Donkey Kong at the arcade, back when he was a kid.  I'm endlessly addicted to the Virtual Console playing it.  See BNK's post for the rest.[[User:L33tSilvie|<span style="color:gold;">L33t</span>]] [[User talk:L33tSilvie|<span style="color:silver;">Silvie</span>]] <sup><span style="color:Green;">[[Special:Contributions/L33tSilvie|F33R T3|-| L337!!</span></sup>]] 22:37, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
*The first video game battle ever (I think).... epic [[User:Enigmatic Mr. L|Enigmatic Mr. L]] ([[User talk:Enigmatic Mr. L|talk]]) 14:47, 7 April 2009 (UTC)
*This is possibly one of the most iconic fights between two characters in the history of video games. Why wouldn't you want it? [[Special:Contributions/220.253.198.197|220.253.198.197]] 07:53, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
#^As per all [[Special:Contributions/220.253.197.146|220.253.197.146]] 06:56, 24 July 2009 (UTC)


===Oppose===
===Reject===
*Too obvious of a match. It's like the Mario v. Luigi one.'''[[User:Smorekingxg456|<span style="color:#5F9EA0">Smoreking</span>]]<small><sup>[[User Talk:Smorekingxg456#Top|<span style="color:#00FF00">(T)</span>]]</sup></small><small><sub> [[Special:Contributions/Smorekingxg456|(c)]]</sub></small>''' 16:30, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
*<s>Sorry but, I agree with SmoreKing. [[User:Unknown the Hedgehog|<font color="#FF0000">Unknown </font>]] [[User talk:Unknown the Hedgehog|<font color="#780000">the </font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Unknown the Hedgehog|<font color="000000">Hedgehog</font>]] 16:32, 10 January 2009 (UTC)</s>
*Just, No.--[[User:Mudkipz|User:Mudkipz]] ([[User talk:Mudkipz|talk]]) 00:49, 14 January 2009 (UTC)
* I agree with the above. [[User:Solar flute|Solar flute]] ([[User talk:Solar flute|talk]])
* Lol? [[User:SuperTeddy|<font color="orange">SuperTeddy</font>]]<sup>[[User Talk:SuperTeddy|<font color="blue"> call me </font>]]</sup><sup>[[Special:Contributions/SuperTeddy|<font color="red">Matthew</font>]]</sup> 17:15, 24 April 2009 (UTC)


===Comments===
===Comments===
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Suggestions have re-opened! YESH! [[User:Masterman|<span style="color: fuchsia">Masterman</span>]] [[User talk:Masterman|<span style="color= blue">20</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Masterman|<span style="color: gold">09</span>]] 15:54, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
=Suggestions=


==[[Rosalina]] vs. [[Bowser Jr.]]==
== Wario vs Wolf ==


Two of the newest characters from the ''Mario'' universe makes it into ''SSB4''. Both have chargeable projectiles which stop dead upon hit. Who will rule 21st century ''Mario''? [[:User:ZeldaStarfoxfan2164|ZeldaStarfoxfan2164]] ([[User talk:ZeldaStarfoxfan2164|talk]]) is a never lover boy  22:00, 9 December 2017 (EST)
One is a rival to Mario and his friends, the other is a rival to the Star Fox team. Both have been bosses in games, and both have had to team up with the hero to stop someone else. Who would win the rival battle?


===Support===
===Support===
I think it has an interesting idea behind it. It has my vote! [[User:Crazy456Rhino|Crazy456Rhino]] ([[User talk:Crazy456Rhino|talk]]) 15:41, 22 March 2018 (EDT)
#My suggestion. '''[[User:ClonedPickle|<span style="color:DarkTurquoise">Cloned</span>]][[User talk:ClonedPickle|<span style="color:DarkGreen">Pickle</span>]]''' 19:03, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
#@Mudkipz: FAIL. Wario is as much a rival to Mario as I love fried chicken. '''[[User:Blue Ninjakoopa|<span style="background:#000000;color:#99ffff">Blue Ninjakoopa</span>]]'''<sup>[[User talk:Blue Ninjakoopa|<span style="vertical-align:baseline;position:relative;bottom:0.36em;color:#0099ff">Talk</span>]]</sup> 01:43, 14 January 2009 (UTC)
#If Wario isn't a rival then I don't know who is. '''[[User:Gutripper|<span style="color:orange">Gutripper</span>]][[User Talk:Gutripper|<small><sup><span style="color:Black">Speak if you are worthy</span></sup></small>]]'''
#Wario is. '''[[User:Toon Ganondorf|<span style="color:green">Toon</span> <span style="color:purple">Ganondorf</span>]]  [[User Talk:Toon Ganondorf|<span style="color:Gold">(t</span>]]  [[Special:Contributions/Toon Ganondorf|<span style="color:Gold">c)</span>]]'''
#at least he used to be a rival. [[User:Solar flute|Solar flute]] ([[User talk:Solar flute|talk]]) 07:21, 24 February 2009 (UTC)
#Even if Wario isn't as big of a rival, it would still be a good fight. [[User:Hyper Shadow|Hyper Shadow]] ([[User talk:Hyper Shadow|talk]]) 19:20, 26 May 2009 (UTC)
#Battle of the anti-heroes. I like it! [[Special:Contributions/220.253.198.197|220.253.198.197]] 07:53, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
#Cool, i don't think there's been a rival battle yet. [[Special:Contributions/220.253.197.146|220.253.197.146]] 06:56, 24 July 2009 (UTC)


Sounds like fun! Let's try it! [[User:Dragonfirebreath25|Dragonfirebreath25]] ([[User talk:Dragonfirebreath25|talk]]) 07:33, 23 March 2018 (EDT)
===Reject===
#This one just isn't good. Wario isn't much of a Rival these days...--[[User:Mudkipz|User:Mudkipz]] ([[User talk:Mudkipz|talk]]) 00:47, 14 January 2009 (UTC)
#Yeah, Wario's pretty branched off in his own games from Mario now. -''[[User:Masq|<span style="color:green">Masq</span>]]'' <small>('''[[User talk:Masq|t]]'''/''[[Special:Contributions/Masq|c]]''/'''[[Special:Editcount/Masq|e]]''')</small> 03:01, 15 January 2009 (UTC)
#Indeed.'''[[User:Smorekingxg456|<span style="color:#5F9EA0">Smoreking</span>]]<small><sup>[[User Talk:Smorekingxg456#Top|<span style="color:#00FF00">(T)</span>]]</sup></small><small><sub> [[Special:Contributions/Smorekingxg456|(c)]]</sub></small>''' 14:37, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
#errr.... '''[[User:Ike's Best Buddy|<span style="color:Red">Ike's</span> <span style="color:Brown">Best</span> <span style="color:Maroon">Buddy</span>]][[User Talk:Ike's Best Buddy|<small><sup><span style="color:silver">Here, my Friends</span></sup></small>]]'''


I agree with Crazy Rhino. It's interesting. Why not. Blueflame105
===Comments===


Kind of an obvious one. [[User:TheNuttyOne|TheNuttyOne]] 14:50, 7 June 2018 (EDT)
==Metal Mario vs Giga Bowser==
Two alternatives of regular smashers, invented by the Smash universe. The solid metal plumber vs the ultimate King of Koopas. Which is hardier in Smashing? '''[[User:Toon Ganondorf|<span style="color:green">Toon</span> <span style="color:purple">Ganondorf</span>]]  [[User Talk:Toon Ganondorf|<span style="color:Gold">(t</span>]]  [[Special:Contributions/Toon Ganondorf|<span style="color:Gold">c)</span>]]'''
 
===Support===
#Good idea. Technically, Metal Mario first appeared in Super Mario 64 by the use of the Metal Box. [[User:Unknown the Hedgehog|<font color="#FF0000">Unknown </font>]] [[User talk:Unknown the Hedgehog|<font color="#780000">the </font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Unknown the Hedgehog|<font color="000000">Hedgehog</font>]] 00:24, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
#Two of the biggest characters invented by Smash. Metal Mario has been a boss for two games, and Giga Bowser was two games as well. '''[[User:Gutripper|<span style="color:orange">Gutripper</span>]][[User Talk:Gutripper|<small><sup><span style="color:Black">Speak</span></sup></small>]]''' 22:22, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
#In my opinion, a great idea, although since I'm a Mario series fan, it's no wonder why I'd say that. Also, Unknown is correct. Anyways, I'm picturing this battle in my mind as an even bigger final battle between Mario and Bowser in Super Mario 64. '''[[User:MarioGalaxy|<span style="color:darkslateblue">Mario</span><span style="color:#000033">Galaxy</span>]]'''<sup><small>'''[[User talk:MarioGalaxy|<span style="color:lightslategray">May Guthix be with you...</span>]]'''</small></sup> 00:16, 28 February 2009 (UTC)
#I agree with all of the above[[Image:Charizard.png|20 px]][[Image:Yoshi.jpg|20 px]][[Image:Rayquaza.jpg|20 px]]'''[[User:Lordzilla]]'''[[Image:Ridley.jpg|20 px]][[Image:Meta ridley.jpg|20 px]][[Image:Pokemon trainer.jpg|20 px]] 00:29, 18 June 2009 (UTC)
#Sure, it's similar to Mario vs Bowser but considering the different strengths and weaknesses of their stronger forms the outcome could be significantly different. [[Special:Contributions/220.253.198.197|220.253.198.197]] 07:53, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
#They're the bosses of the Classic and Adventure modes in Melee respectively. I wonder who would have the upper hand? [[Special:Contributions/220.253.197.146|220.253.197.146]] 06:56, 24 July 2009 (UTC)


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#Do you remember Mario vs. Bowser? [[User:Solar flute|Solar flute]] ([[User talk:Solar flute|talk]])
#Agreed with Solar Flute.'''[[User:Smorekingxg456|<span style="color:#5F9EA0">Smoreking</span>]]<small><sup>[[User Talk:Smorekingxg456#Top|<span style="color:#00FF00">(T)</span>]]</sup></small><small><sub> [[Special:Contributions/Smorekingxg456|(c)]]</sub></small>''' 14:28, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
#Fail. <span style="border:2px outset #9900cc;background-color:white;-moz-border-radius:10px">'''[[User:Blue Ninjakoopa|<span style="color:#ff0099;">Blue</span>]] [[User talk:Blue Ninjakoopa|<span style="color:#ff0099">Ninjakoopa</span>]]'''</span> 22:46, 23 February 2009 (UTC)


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#Meh.  I just don't know.  Wierd, yet it's the ultimate form of two smashers.  What to think...[[User:L33tSilvie|<span style="color:gold;">L33t</span>]] [[User talk:L33tSilvie|<span style="color:silver;">Silvie</span>]] <sup><span style="color:Green;">[[Special:Contributions/L33tSilvie|F33R T3|-| L337!!</span></sup>]] 22:37, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
#Metal Mario was made in Super Mario 64. Facts. Get them.'''[[User:Smorekingxg456|<span style="color:#5F9EA0">Smoreking</span>]]<small><sup>[[User Talk:Smorekingxg456#Top|<span style="color:#00FF00">(T)</span>]]</sup></small><small><sub> [[Special:Contributions/Smorekingxg456|(c)]]</sub></small>''' 22:31, 24 February 2009 (UTC)
:Mario with a metal box was made in SM 64. The character/boss [[Metal Mario]] was invented by Smash. Facts. Get them. '''[[User:Gutripper|<span style="color:orange">Gutripper</span>]][[User Talk:Gutripper|<small><sup><span style="color:Black">Speak</span></sup></small>]]'''
::Nothing was "invented". Metal Mario CAME FROM Super Mario 64. '''Facts. Get them.''' <span style="border:2px outset #9900cc;background-color:white;-moz-border-radius:10px">'''[[User:Blue Ninjakoopa|<span style="color:#ff0099;">Blue</span>]] [[User talk:Blue Ninjakoopa|<span style="color:#ff0099">Ninjakoopa</span>]]'''</span> 23:18, 26 February 2009 (UTC)
:::Don't you start...so you're telling me that you fought Metal Mario in Super Mario 64? Cos unless you did, you're wrong. '''[[User:Toon Ganondorf|<span style="color:green">Toon</span> <span style="color:purple">Ganondorf</span>]]  [[User Talk:Toon Ganondorf|<span style="color:Gold">(t</span>]]  [[Special:Contributions/Toon Ganondorf|<span style="color:Gold">c)</span>]]'''
::::Metal Mario IS Mario, which is why he isn't a major boss in Brawl. Remember, Sakurai got rid of all clones. <span style="border:2px outset #9900cc;background-color:white;-moz-border-radius:10px">'''[[User:Blue Ninjakoopa|<span style="color:#ff0099;">Blue</span>]] [[User talk:Blue Ninjakoopa|<span style="color:#ff0099">Ninjakoopa</span>]]'''</span> 11:27, 27 February 2009 (UTC)
:::::All clones? [[Toon Link (SSBB)|Not exactly...]] Anyways, Metal Mario was not invented by Smash, even if he functioned as a boss in SSB64. [[User:Miles.oppenheimer|<font color="forestgreen"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Miles''']] <font color="lime">([[User talk:Miles.oppenheimer|<font color="lime">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 12:38, 27 February 2009 (UTC)
::::::Miles, wrong? I never thought that could happen... hey! If you can get me non-h4x footage of Toon Link doing a kick, I'll believe you :D <span style="border:2px outset #9900cc;background-color:white;-moz-border-radius:10px">'''[[User:Blue Ninjakoopa|<span style="color:#ff0099;">Blue</span>]] [[User talk:Blue Ninjakoopa|<span style="color:#ff0099">Ninjakoopa</span>]]'''</span> 19:49, 27 February 2009 (UTC)
:::::::"Not exactly" --> includes semi-clones.  Oh, and I'm never wrong. ;D [[User:Miles.oppenheimer|<font color="forestgreen"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Miles''']] <font color="lime">([[User talk:Miles.oppenheimer|<font color="lime">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 22:48, 27 February 2009 (UTC)
:::::::: Then you should know damn well that Toon Link =/= Link. ::) <span style="border:2px outset #9900cc;background-color:white;-moz-border-radius:10px">'''[[User:Blue Ninjakoopa|<span style="color:#ff0099;">Blue</span>]] [[User talk:Blue Ninjakoopa|<span style="color:#ff0099">Ninjakoopa</span>]]'''</span> 23:50, 27 February 2009 (UTC)
#Which came first, SSB 64 or Mario Golf 64? [[User:Solar flute|Solar flute]] ([[User talk:Solar flute|talk]]) 00:08, 27 February 2009 (UTC)
#Regarding Toon Ganondorf's last comment: You didn't ''fight'' Metal Mario in Super Mario 64, you '''''played''''' as Metal Mario.--[[User:Meta-K|Meta-Kirb]] ([[User talk:Meta-K|talk]]) 13:46, 27 February 2009 (UTC)
:::Oh be quiet. My suggestion was the boss, not Mario with a metal box. Metal Mario the boss was introduced in the first Smash game. Regardless of whether Mario can get a Metal box, the minor boss fought in 64 is who we're dealing with. End of story. '''[[User:Toon Ganondorf|<span style="color:green">Toon</span> <span style="color:purple">Ganondorf</span>]]  [[User Talk:Toon Ganondorf|<span style="color:Gold">(t</span>]]  [[Special:Contributions/Toon Ganondorf|<span style="color:Gold">c)</span>]]''' 23:45, 27 February 2009 (UTC)
::::Actually, you never stated the boss form of Metal Mario in the description. '''[[User:Smorekingxg456|<span style="color:#5F9EA0">Smoreking</span>]]<small><sup>[[User Talk:Smorekingxg456#Top|<span style="color:#00FF00">(T)</span>]]</sup></small><small><sub> [[Special:Contributions/Smorekingxg456|(c)]]</sub></small>''' 23:48, 27 February 2009 (UTC)
::::::Oh it's the boss version <_<. Let me ask you this, when there was the Mario vs. Bowser fight, which Mario was it? The Mario from Super Mario 64 or the Mario from Super Mario Galaxy. You might be saying to yourself,"They're the same character." That's my point. Whether or not it's MM from SM64 or MM from SSB, it's still Metal Mario. [[User:Unknown the Hedgehog|<font color="#FF0000">Unknown </font>]] [[User talk:Unknown the Hedgehog|<font color="#780000">the </font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Unknown the Hedgehog|<font color="000000">Hedgehog</font>]] 00:13, 28 February 2009 (UTC)


==[[Bowser]] vs. [[Bowser Jr.]]==
==Marth vs. Meta Knight==
It's the battle of the Koopas! The Koopa King and the Koopa Prince are a royal duo. Who will rule this Koopa brawl between two ''Mario'' universe enemies? [[User:Dragonfirebreath25|Dragonfirebreath25]] ([[User talk:Dragonfirebreath25|talk]]) 07:49, 23 March 2018 (EDT)
The two "mach speed" swordsmen were interupted by the Ancient Minister. Now, the best swordsmen (according to the tiers) will unsheathe their swords and do battle. <font face="calibri" size="3">[[User:SapphireKirby777|<span style="color:blue">SapphireKirby</span>]]</font>[[User Talk:SapphireKirby777|<span style="color:silver">'''777 ~Behold! -.-'''</span>]]


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It would be en epic koopa battle. [[:User:ZeldaStarfoxfan2164|ZeldaStarfoxfan2164]] ([[User talk:ZeldaStarfoxfan2164|talk]]) is a never lover boy  19:59, 9 May 2018 (EDT)
#Of all the generic swordsmen battles, this one is the best IMO -- the SSE and tier reasons make it work. [[User:Miles.oppenheimer|<font color="forestgreen"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Miles''']] <font color="lime">([[User talk:Miles.oppenheimer|<font color="lime">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 21:10, 2 March 2009 (UTC)
 
#Good idea. [[User:Unknown the Hedgehog|<font color="#FF0000">Unknown </font>]] [[User talk:Unknown the Hedgehog|<font color="#780000">the </font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Unknown the Hedgehog|<font color="000000">Hedgehog</font>]] 22:22, 2 March 2009 (UTC)
Sure, why not? [[User:TheNuttyOne|TheNuttyOne]] 14:50, 7 June 2018 (EDT)
#Ye. <span style="border:2px outset #33ff66;background-color:green;-moz-border-radius:3px">'''[[User:Blue Ninjakoopa|<span style="color:#99ff99;">Blue</span>]] [[User talk:Blue Ninjakoopa|<span style="color:#99ff99">Ninjakoopa</span>]]'''</span> 22:34, 2 March 2009 (UTC)
#[http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/gamemode/modea/modea13.html Epic]. Nothing else to say. [[User:Metalink187|Metalink187]] ([[User talk:Metalink187|talk]]) 12:35, 7 March 2009 (UTC)
#Gotta have my favorites dueling, I love seeing Galaxia clashing with Marth's sword. <font color="Crimson">Thanks, '''TimeMaster''' [[User talk:TimeMaster|Talk]] [[User:TimeMaster|Main]] [[Special:Contributions/TimeMaster|Contribs]]</font> 01:13, 21 March 2009 (UTC)
#I've been wanting to see them finish that sword battle from the Subspace Emissary. [[User:Hyper Shadow|Hyper Shadow]] ([[User talk:Hyper Shadow|talk]]) 19:23, 26 May 2009 (UTC)
#Sure, why not? It could go either way. [[Special:Contributions/220.253.198.197|220.253.198.197]] 07:53, 10 July 2009 (UTC)


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I don't know. This seems kind of obvious. I don't think they're different enough. You're entitled to your opinion though. Blueflame105
#sigh... another swordsmen fight. [[User:Solar flute|Solar flute]] ([[User talk:Solar flute|talk]]) 01:56, 17 March 2009 (UTC)
#Swordsman fail.'''[[User:Smorekingxg456|<span style="color:#5F9EA0">Smoreking</span>]]<small><sup>[[User Talk:Smorekingxg456#Top|<span style="color:#00FF00">(T)</span>]]</sup></small><small><sub> [[Special:Contributions/Smorekingxg456|(c)]]</sub></small>''' 15:41, 21 March 2009 (UTC)
#You could pretty much pair any characters from the Subspace Emissary for a battle. This fight just doesn't seem interesting to me. [[Special:Contributions/220.253.197.146|220.253.197.146]] 06:56, 24 July 2009 (UTC)


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==[[Villager]] vs. [[Rosalina]]==
==Electrode vs Bob-omb==
Two veterans of Smash, both liking to explode and damage everyone else rather than fight themselves. Which do you prefer?  '''[[User:Gutripper|<span style="color:orange">Gutripper</span>]][[User Talk:Gutripper|<small><sup><span style="color:Black">Speak</span></sup></small>]]'''
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#Win. [[User:Miles.oppenheimer|<font color="forestgreen"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Miles''']] <font color="lime">([[User talk:Miles.oppenheimer|<font color="lime">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 23:00, 7 March 2009 (UTC)
#Yep, definitely. '''[[User:ClonedPickle|<span style="color:DarkTurquoise">Cloned</span>]][[User talk:ClonedPickle|<span style="color:DarkGreen">Pickle</span>]]''' 00:59, 8 March 2009 (UTC)
#I'm with Miles, "Win"--'''[[User:MysteryHeff|<span style="color:Green">MỸŠŦЄЯỸ</span>]][[Special:Contributions/MysteryHeff|<span style="color:green">ЊӘҒҒ</span>]]''' [[User Talk:MysteryHeff|<small><sup><span style="color:black">TALK</span></sup></small>]] 01:51, 8 March 2009 (UTC)
#You'd like reasons, huh ? Both bombs, both make cruel explosions, both detonate when they want. That's enough for ya ? [[User:Metalink187|Metalink187]] ([[User talk:Metalink187|talk]]) 11:26, 8 March 2009 (UTC)
#I like the fight. That's a longer version of yep or win >_>. [[User:Unknown the Hedgehog|<font color="#FF0000">Unknown </font>]] [[User talk:Unknown the Hedgehog|<font color="#780000">the </font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Unknown the Hedgehog|<font color="000000">Hedgehog</font>]] 14:54, 8 March 2009 (UTC)
#<s>ye lol <span style="border:2px outset #33ff66;background-color:green;-moz-border-radius:3px">'''[[User:Blue Ninjakoopa|<span style="color:#99ff99;">Blue</span>]] [[User talk:Blue Ninjakoopa|<span style="color:#99ff99">Ninjakoopa</span>]]'''</span> 02:45, 17 March 2009 (UTC)</s>
# [[User:SuperTeddy|<font color="orange">SuperTeddy</font>]]<sup>[[User Talk:SuperTeddy|<font color="blue"> call me </font>]]</sup><sup>[[Special:Contributions/SuperTeddy|<font color="red">Matthew</font>]]</sup> 17:14, 24 April 2009 (UTC)
# As per MetaLink. '''[[User:Ike's Best Buddy|<span style="color:Red">Ike's</span> <span style="color:Brown">Best</span> <span style="color:Maroon">Buddy</span>]][[User Talk:Ike's Best Buddy|<small><sup><span style="color:silver">'''I HATE MEMES'''</span></sup></small>]]'''
#Lol. This idea is awesome! They're both the iconic exploding characters of their series. [[Special:Contributions/220.253.198.197|220.253.198.197]] 07:53, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
#They are the only living bombs in the Smash series, i like it. [[Special:Contributions/220.253.197.146|220.253.197.146]] 06:56, 24 July 2009 (UTC)


Both characters are fun and have a special move that can negate most projectiles (Pocket and Gravitational Pull, respectively) and are both fairly new. Both are newcomers. Who would win? What do you think? [[Special:Contributions/72.133.91.93|72.133.91.93]] 16:02, 9 May 2018 (EDT)Blueflame105 3:01, March 9 2018 (American Central Time)
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*Again, wat. This just seems weird, and I don't like it.'''[[User:Smorekingxg456|<span style="color:#5F9EA0">Smoreking</span>]]<small><sup>[[User Talk:Smorekingxg456#Top|<span style="color:#00FF00">(T)</span>]]</sup></small><small><sub> [[Special:Contributions/Smorekingxg456|(c)]]</sub></small>''' 15:41, 21 March 2009 (UTC)
*^4srs <span style="border:2px outset #ff66ff;background-color: #66ff99;-moz-border-radius:3px">'''[[User:Blue Ninjakoopa|<span style="color:#9900ff;">Blue</span>]] [[User talk:Blue Ninjakoopa|<span style="color:#9900ff">Ninjakoopa</span>]]'''</span> 12:33, 24 April 2009 (UTC)
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*For the supports, I believe a valid reason is needed, as per the rules. Win and Yep don't really state why it's a good fight. Same goes for any opposes that may occur.'''[[User:Smorekingxg456|<span style="color:#5F9EA0">Smoreking</span>]]<small><sup>[[User Talk:Smorekingxg456#Top|<span style="color:#00FF00">(T)</span>]]</sup></small><small><sub> [[Special:Contributions/Smorekingxg456|(c)]]</sub></small>''' 01:47, 8 March 2009 (UTC)
 
==Mario vs. Kirby==
In the original Super Smash Bros., these two duked it out. In SSBB, a match was also done. Will a Smash Arena battle settle the rivalry? <font face="calibri" size="3">[[User:SapphireKirby777|<span style="color:blue">SapphireKirby</span>]]</font>[[User Talk:SapphireKirby777|<span style="color:green">'''777---I'm a leprechaun! -.-'''</span>]]


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A great battle for me so, let's give that a try! [[User:Dragonfirebreath25|Dragonfirebreath25]] ([[User talk:Dragonfirebreath25|talk]]) 12:15, 10 May 2018 (EDT)


This is a great idea. Has my support. YoshisaurusThe9th
*Predictable, but I kinda like it anyways. [[User:Miles.oppenheimer|<font color="forestgreen"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Miles''']] <font color="lime">([[User talk:Miles.oppenheimer|<font color="lime">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 20:54, 19 March 2009 (UTC)
*You could call it the "Match of the highest rated usage characters in the SSBM strategy guide." '''[[User:ClonedPickle|<span style="color:DarkTurquoise">Cloned</span>]][[User talk:ClonedPickle|<span style="color:DarkGreen">Pickle</span>]]''' 22:00, 19 March 2009 (UTC)
*Per everone above. [[User:Unknown the Hedgehog|<font color="#FF0000">Unknown </font>]] [[User talk:Unknown the Hedgehog|<font color="#780000">the </font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Unknown the Hedgehog|<font color="000000">Hedgehog</font>]] 22:02, 19 March 2009 (UTC)
#These two were battling eachother in the opening of the original game. It'd be interesting to see who'd win. [[Special:Contributions/220.253.198.197|220.253.198.197]] 07:53, 10 July 2009 (UTC)


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I don't really get the connection. [[User:TheNuttyOne|TheNuttyOne]] 14:50, 7 June 2018 (EDT)
#Lack of imagination. I don't like it, sorry. '''<span style="font-family:Lucida Calligraphy; font-size:8pt">[[User:Gutripper|<span style="color:orange">Gutripper</span>]][[User Talk:Gutripper|<small><sup><span style="color:Black">Speak</span></sup></small>]]</span>''' 07:13, 20 March 2009 (UTC)
#Me neither, the normal once again (besides Mario v Link). <font color="Crimson">Thanks, '''TimeMaster''' [[User talk:TimeMaster|Talk]] [[User:TimeMaster|Main]] [[Special:Contributions/TimeMaster|Contribs]]</font> 15:19, 21 March 2009 (UTC)
#I lol'd at Gutripper calling something unimaginative, but yeah, unimaginative.'''[[User:Smorekingxg456|<span style="color:#5F9EA0">Smoreking</span>]]<small><sup>[[User Talk:Smorekingxg456#Top|<span style="color:#00FF00">(T)</span>]]</sup></small><small><sub> [[Special:Contributions/Smorekingxg456|(c)]]</sub></small>''' 15:41, 21 March 2009 (UTC)
#Meh.  With those reasons, you could have pretty much anyone in the original 12 fight.[[User:L33tSilvie|<span style="color:gold;">L33t</span>]] [[User talk:L33tSilvie|<span style="color:silver;">Silvie</span>]] <sup><span style="color:Green;">[[Special:Contributions/L33tSilvie|F33R T3|-| L337!!</span></sup>]] 16:24, 19 April 2009 (UTC)
# [[User:SuperTeddy|<font color="orange">SuperTeddy</font>]]<sup>[[User Talk:SuperTeddy|<font color="blue"> call me </font>]]</sup><sup>[[Special:Contributions/SuperTeddy|<font color="red">Matthew</font>]]</sup> 17:17, 24 April 2009 (UTC)
#This battle already happened in the story mode. [[Special:Contributions/220.253.197.146|220.253.197.146]] 06:56, 24 July 2009 (UTC)


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You don't have to be sorry Gutripper. <font face="calibri" size="3">[[User:SapphireKirby777|<span style="color:blue">SapphireKirby</span>]]</font>[[User Talk:SapphireKirby777|<span style="color:green">'''777---I'm a leprechaun! -.-'''</span>]] 12:57, 20 March 2009 (UTC)
#What is that supposed to mean, Smore? '''<span style="font-family:Lucida Calligraphy; font-size:8pt">[[User:Gutripper|<span style="color:orange">Gutripper</span>]][[User Talk:Gutripper|<small><sup><span style="color:Black">Speak</span></sup></small>]]</span>''' 21:57, 21 March 2009 (UTC)


==[[Koopalings|Wendy]] vs. [[Lucina]]==
== Giga Bowser vs. Beast Ganon ==
 
Two giants who are two of the most destuctive forces in the smash universe. {{unsigned|Cooky Kirby}}


The only unlockable females in the series. One fights to repair the future, the other fights to take over the world. One is driven and kind, the other is bratty and vicious. Which one reigns supreme? [[User:TheNuttyOne|TheNuttyOne]] 14:50, 7 June 2018 (EDT)


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A nice matchup in my favor. [[User:Dragonfirebreath25|Dragonfirebreath25]] ([[User talk:Dragonfirebreath25|talk]]) 16:36, 7 June 2018 (EDT)
#Honestly, I like it. '''[[User:Toon Ganondorf|<span style="color:green">Toon</span> <span style="color:purple">Ganondorf</span>]]  [[User Talk:Toon Ganondorf|<span style="color:Gold">(t</span>]]  [[Special:Contributions/Toon Ganondorf|<span style="color:Gold">c)</span>]]''' 00:47, 21 March 2009 (UTC)
#Makes sense, two incarnations of villians that are both giant beasts. '''[[User:ClonedPickle|<span style="color:DarkTurquoise">Cloned</span>]][[User talk:ClonedPickle|<span style="color:DarkGreen">Pickle</span>]]''' 00:49, 21 March 2009 (UTC)
#Good idea! [[User:Unknown the Hedgehog|<font color="#FF0000">Unknown </font>]] [[User talk:Unknown the Hedgehog|<font color="#780000">the </font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Unknown the Hedgehog|<font color="000000">Hedgehog</font>]] 15:12, 21 March 2009 (UTC)
#Hey you, person who rejected! I should point out that Beast Ganon is also invulnerable to knockback! [[User:Paradox Juice|Paradox Juice]] ([[User talk:Paradox Juice|talk]]) 23:20, 14 April 2009 (UTC)
#Agree with Paradox Juice. [[User:SuperTeddy|<font color="orange">SuperTeddy</font>]]<sup>[[User Talk:SuperTeddy|<font color="blue"> call me </font>]]</sup><sup>[[Special:Contributions/SuperTeddy|<font color="red">Matthew</font>]]</sup> 17:18, 24 April 2009 (UTC)
# Agrees with everybody above and is scared about becoming a yes-man. '''[[User:Ike's Best Buddy|<span style="color:Red">Ike's</span> <span style="color:Brown">Best</span><span style="color:Maroon">Buddy</span>]][[User Talk:Ike's Best Buddy|<small><sup><span style="color:silver">Here, my Friends</span></sup></small>]]'''
#Two beasts with one-hit KOs are what I want in a brawl![[Image:Charizard.png|20 px]][[Image:Yoshi.jpg|20 px]][[Image:Rayquaza.jpg|20 px]]'''[[User:Lordzilla]]'''[[Image:Ridley.jpg|20 px]][[Image:Modea15 080317awk06.jpg|20 px]][[Image:Pokemon trainer.jpg|20 px]] 18:25, 18 June 2009 (UTC)
#The final forms of Nintendo's most iconic villians battling it out. A very likable idea. [[Special:Contributions/220.253.198.197|220.253.198.197]] 07:53, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
#Cool! I wish this battle was put into the Subspace Emissary. [[Special:Contributions/220.253.197.146|220.253.197.146]] 06:56, 24 July 2009 (UTC)
 
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Just no. Please no. Also, Wendy isn't unlockable in for Wii U, and neither is Lucina, so that's driven entirely from the 3DS version, right? [[Special:Contributions/72.133.91.93|72.133.91.93]] 12:03, 8 June 2018 (EDT) Blueflame105
*Critical phail. Giga Bowser is immune to knockback. I don't care about the physics of SA, it still fails.'''[[User:Smorekingxg456|<span style="color:#5F9EA0">Smoreking</span>]]<small><sup>[[User Talk:Smorekingxg456#Top|<span style="color:#00FF00">(T)</span>]]</sup></small><small><sub> [[Special:Contributions/Smorekingxg456|(c)]]</sub></small>''' 15:41, 21 March 2009 (UTC)


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==[[Lakitu & Spinies]] vs. [[Hammer Bro.]]==
==Falco vs. Diddy Kong==
They are both partners of very known characters, animals, and they both have a gun. '''[[User:SuperTeddy|<span style="color:lightgreen">Super</span>]][[User talk:SuperTeddy|<span style="color:orange">Teddy</span>]]''' 10:48, 21 March 2009 (UTC)
 
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#This fight has already been suggested, but this is a decent comparison. '''<span style="font-family:Lucida Calligraphy; font-size:8pt">[[User:Gutripper|<span style="color:orange">Gutripper</span>]][[User Talk:Gutripper|<small><sup><span style="color:Black">Speak</span></sup></small>]]</span>''' 10:59, 21 March 2009 (UTC)
#Sounds cool. Win. <font color="Crimson">Thanks, '''TimeMaster''' [[User talk:TimeMaster|Talk]] [[User:TimeMaster|Main]] [[Special:Contributions/TimeMaster|Contribs]]</font> 15:21, 21 March 2009 (UTC)
#IBB likey... '''[[User:Ike's Best Buddy|<span style="color:Red">Ike's</span> <span style="color:Brown">Best</span> <span style="color:Maroon">Buddy</span>]][[User Talk:Ike's Best Buddy|<small><sup><span style="color:silver">Here, my Friends</span></sup></small>]]'''
#Peanuts vs Laser Fire. Lol. [[Special:Contributions/220.253.198.197|220.253.198.197]] 07:53, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
#It's a good idea. [[Special:Contributions/220.253.197.146|220.253.197.146]] 06:56, 24 July 2009 (UTC)
 
===Oppose===
*Suggested before, and denied. This is against the rules, and thus should fail.'''[[User:Smorekingxg456|<span style="color:#5F9EA0">Smoreking</span>]]<small><sup>[[User Talk:Smorekingxg456#Top|<span style="color:#00FF00">(T)</span>]]</sup></small><small><sub> [[Special:Contributions/Smorekingxg456|(c)]]</sub></small>''' 15:41, 21 March 2009 (UTC)
 
===Comment===
#Not really against the rules. Please explain. '''<span style="font-family:Lucida Calligraphy; font-size:8pt">[[User:Gutripper|<span style="color:orange">Gutripper</span>]][[User Talk:Gutripper|<small><sup><span style="color:Black">Speak</span></sup></small>]]</span>''' 21:56, 21 March 2009 (UTC)
#I think any failed idea should be given "second chances." Note that more people are coming to this wikia (lately). So the outcome of an idea is...well...based on luck. <font face="calibri" size="3">[[User:SapphireKirby777|<span style="color:blue">SapphireKirby</span>]]</font>[[User Talk:SapphireKirby777|<span style="color:green">'''777---I'm a leprechaun! -.-'''</span>]] 19:29, 24 March 2009 (UTC)
#Note to Smoreking, this is not against the rules. The rules state that suggesting fights that have progressed through the Arena are against the rules. This is not against the rules, as at the time of suggestion, it failed to garner enough support to reach the SA Preparation. '''<span style="font-family:Lucida Calligraphy; font-size:8pt">[[User:Gutripper|<span style="color:orange">Gutripper</span>]][[User Talk:Gutripper|<small><sup><span style="color:Black">Speak</span></sup></small>]]</span>''' 21:53, 24 March 2009 (UTC)


Two [[Assist Trophies]] from the ''Mario'' series. One throws Spinies, the other throws hammers. Which one is your favorite? [[User:Dragonfirebreath25|Dragonfirebreath25]] ([[User talk:Dragonfirebreath25|talk]]) 16:36, 7 June 2018 (EDT)
== Link vs. Yoshi ==
 
The green team's teamed up in the SSE, but now they fight in the Smash Arena! [[User:PurpleDarkness|<font color="red"><span style="font-family:Arial;">'''PurpleDarkness''']] <font color="navyblue">([[User talk:PurpleDarkness|<font color="navyblue">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 01:41, 17 April 2009 (UTC)


===Support===
===Support===
It's a cool idea, so I'll support this. I would definitely vote for Hammer Bro. though. I hate going up against Lakitu. [[Special:Contributions/72.133.91.93|72.133.91.93]] 12:04, 8 June 2018 (EDT)Blueflame105
#This is pretty clever.  A dinosaur v. a swordsman means primal v. sophisticated. Tongue v. Sword means Yoshi's got the guts to fight with a tongue in the first place. <font face="calibri">'''[[User:Fried beef1|<span style="color:orangered">Fried</span><span style="color:blue">beef1</span>]][[User Talk:Fried beef1|<span style="color:amethyst"><span style="font-size:60%">Screech</span></span>]]'''</font> 22:08, 20 April 2009 (UTC)


===Oppose===
===Oppose===
Rematches are uninteresting in general, especially now that we're going to have 5 ''Smash'' games and now, there are more ''Mario'' based assists. [[:User:ZeldaStarfoxfan2164|ZeldaStarfoxfan2164]] ([[User talk:ZeldaStarfoxfan2164|talk]]) is a never lover boy  23:43, 21 July 2018 (EDT)
#In this case, this is epic fail. Yep : they're both green, yep they were fighting on the same stages but those reasons aren't enough for the BIG gap between them (dinosaur vs knight, tongue vs sword) [[User:Metalink187|Metalink187]] ([[User talk:Metalink187|talk]]) 20:38, 20 April 2009 (UTC)
#Yeah, no. <span style="border:2px outset #33ff66;background-color:green;-moz-border-radius:3px">'''[[User:Blue Ninjakoopa|<span style="color:#99ff99;">Blue</span>]] [[User talk:Blue Ninjakoopa|<span style="color:#99ff99">Ninjakoopa</span>]]'''</span> 05:31, 21 April 2009 (UTC)
#Phailure.[[User:L33tSilvie|<span style="color:gold;">L33t</span>]] [[User talk:L33tSilvie|<span style="color:silver;">Silvie</span>]] <sup><span style="color:Green;">[[Special:Contributions/L33tSilvie|Your epidermis is showing.</span></sup>]] 20:45, 21 April 2009 (UTC)
#Per everybody above. [[User:Unknown the Hedgehog|<font color="#FF0000">Unknown </font>]] [[User talk:Unknown the Hedgehog|<font color="#780000">the </font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Unknown the Hedgehog|<font color="000000">Hedgehog</font>]] 21:13, 22 April 2009 (UTC)
#Um, i dont really think so. '''<span style="font-family:Lucida Calligraphy; font-size:8pt">[[User:Gutripper|<span style="color:orange">Gutripper</span>]][[User Talk:Gutripper|<small><sup><span style="color:Black">Speak</span></sup></small>]]</span>''' 09:31, 23 April 2009 (UTC)
# <span style="border:2px bottomset black;background-color: black;-moz-border-radius:3px">'''[[User:The Horror|<font color="Red">The Horror</font>]]''''<sup>[[User_talk:The Horror|<font color="white">Speak if you dare</font>]]</sup></span> 16:40, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
# Don't get me started. No, really, don't. '''[[User:Ike's Best Buddy|<span style="color:Red">Ike's</span> <span style="color:Brown">Best</span> <span style="color:Maroon">Buddy</span>]][[User Talk:Ike's Best Buddy|<small><sup><span style="color:silver">Here, my Friends</span></sup></small>]]'''
#The only thing they have in common is that they're green. [[Special:Contributions/220.253.198.197|220.253.198.197]] 07:53, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
#Sorry, but no. [[Special:Contributions/220.253.197.146|220.253.197.146]] 06:56, 24 July 2009 (UTC)
 
===Comments===
===Comments===
Not saying it couldn't happen as it was more than 100 matches ago, but discovered this same matchup with their Brawl incarnations in the archives. While I do like this matchup and fully support it, it does say you aren't likely to get a repeat unless people really want a different result or it was a tie. [[Special:Contributions/72.133.91.93|72.133.91.93]] 19:06, 6 July 2018 (EDT)Blueflame105
Fried beef : It's better to make fighting characters than have a few things in common. The "sophisticated vs. primal" thing is an argument for differences, same for "tongue vs. sword" (like I said). So it may just not work. [[User:Metalink187|Metalink187]] ([[User talk:Metalink187|talk]]) 08:04, 3 May 2009 (UTC)


==[[Mario Circuit (SSB4)]] vs. [[Rainbow Road]]==
== Link vs. Snake ==
 
Both are heroes who have saved the world multiple times. One is the hero of medieval times, and one is the hero of the modern world. On top of that, they are both what Otacon would call "Mr. Utility Belt". Which will win?[[User:L33tSilvie|<span style="color:gold;">L33t</span>]] [[User talk:L33tSilvie|<span style="color:silver;">Silvie</span>]] <sup><span style="color:Green;">[[Special:Contributions/L33tSilvie|Your epidermis is showing.</span></sup>]] 20:45, 21 April 2009 (UTC)
3, 2, 1... GO! Two stages from ''{{iw|mariowiki|Mario Kart|series}}'' battle it out in a race to the finish. One is from ''{{s|mariowiki|Mario Kart 8}}'' and ''{{s|mariowiki|Mario Kart 8 Deluxe}}'', the other is from ''{{s|mariowiki|Mario Kart 7}}''. Who will take the checkered flag in this match? [[User:Dragonfirebreath25|Dragonfirebreath25]] ([[User talk:Dragonfirebreath25|talk]]) 01:10, 17 June 2018 (EDT)


===Support===
===Support===
Great Idea in my opinion.
#I hesitate but I think this would be good because of the reasons you stated above... [[User:Metalink187|Metalink187]] ([[User talk:Metalink187|talk]]) 07:16, 22 April 2009 (UTC)
[[User: CaptainDabsalot|CaptainDabsalot]] Or [[User Talk: CaptainDabsalot|The SavageCow]] 6/22/18 11:04 CST
#I like it, I vote for this. Plus how you described it makes it sound quite cool! [[User:Learner4|Learner4]] ([[User talk:Learner4|talk]]) 16:21, 23 April 2009 (UTC)
#Futuristic warrior versus medieval style warrior. I like it! <span style="border:2px outset #ff66ff;background-color: #66ff99;-moz-border-radius:3px">'''[[User:Blue Ninjakoopa|<span style="color:#9900ff;">Blue</span>]] [[User talk:Blue Ninjakoopa|<span style="color:#9900ff">Ninjakoopa</span>]]'''</span> 12:28, 24 April 2009 (UTC)
#No reason, I just like it. [[User:SuperTeddy|<font color="orange">SuperTeddy</font>]]<sup>[[User Talk:SuperTeddy|<font color="blue"> call me </font>]]</sup><sup>[[Special:Contributions/SuperTeddy|<font color="red">Matthew</font>]]</sup> 17:12, 24 April 2009 (UTC)
#I like it. Both use bombs![[Image:Charizard.png|20 px]][[Image:Yoshi.jpg|20 px]][[Image:Rayquaza.jpg|20 px]]'''[[User:Lordzilla]]'''[[Image:Ridley.jpg|20 px]][[Image:Meta ridley.jpg|20 px]][[Image:Pokemon trainer.jpg|20 px]] 00:24, 18 June 2009 (UTC)
#It'd be interesting to see whether swords or guns would come out on top. [[Special:Contributions/220.253.198.197|220.253.198.197]] 07:53, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
#I think Link having the Triforce would even the odds for him against Snake's firepower. [[Special:Contributions/220.253.197.146|220.253.197.146]] 06:56, 24 July 2009 (UTC)


[[:User:ZeldaStarfoxfan2164|ZeldaStarfoxfan2164]] ([[User talk:ZeldaStarfoxfan2164|talk]]) is a never lover boy  23:43, 21 July 2018 (EDT)
===Oppose===
===Oppose===


===Comments===
===Comments===
Next time, don't forget about the sections "Support" "Oppose" and "Comments" :-) [[User:Metalink187|Metalink187]] ([[User talk:Metalink187|talk]]) 07:14, 22 April 2009 (UTC)


==[[Daisy]] vs. [[Inkling]] vs. [[Ridley]]==
ZOMG!!!!  People like mah ideas![[User:L33tSilvie|<span style="color:gold;">L33t</span>]] [[User talk:L33tSilvie|<span style="color:silver;">Silvie</span>]] <sup><span style="color:Green;">[[Special:Contributions/L33tSilvie|Your epidermis is showing.</span></sup>]] 19:43, 24 April 2009 (UTC)


The first three newcomers announced for SSBU. Which noob gets the most hype? ...Wait a second... [[Forum:Smash_Arena/Archive_40#Villager_vs._Wii_Fit_Trainer_vs._Mega_Man|hasn't something like this been done before?]] [[User:infernape612|<span style="color:orange">infernape]][[User talk:infernape612|<span style="color:orange">612</span>]]</span> 20:17, 21 July 2018 (EDT)
L337, no offense, but, you don't exactly have to grab all the attention and then rub it in my face. [[User:PurpleDarkness|<font color="red"><span style="font-family:Arial;">'''PurpleDarkness''']] <font color="navyblue">([[User talk:PurpleDarkness|<font color="navyblue">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 01:41, 24 April 2009 (UTC)
 
== Charziard vs. Ridley ==
 
Two dragon like creatures. One a powerful pokemon and one a space pirate who kills. <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:Giga Rob|Giga Rob]] ([[User talk:Giga Rob|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Giga Rob|contribs]]) </small>


===Support===
===Support===
I mean... yeah. [[User:TheNuttyOne|TheNuttyOne]] 20:42, 21 July 2018 (EDT)
#Battle of the dragons, one fighting for good and the other for evil. I like it. [[Special:Contributions/220.253.198.197|220.253.198.197]] 07:53, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
#Very creative idea! [[Special:Contributions/220.253.197.146|220.253.197.146]] 06:56, 24 July 2009 (UTC)


ABSOLUTELY! Ultimate looks really good. Counting down the days till December 9th..... [[Special:Contributions/72.133.91.93|72.133.91.93]] 22:30, 21 July 2018 (EDT)Blueflame105
===Oppose===
#Hum... Don't know why but don't like it. [[User:Metalink187|Metalink187]] ([[User talk:Metalink187|talk]]) 17:03, 7 June 2009 (UTC)


The only time such matchup is valid. [[:User:ZeldaStarfoxfan2164|ZeldaStarfoxfan2164]] ([[User talk:ZeldaStarfoxfan2164|talk]]) is a never lover boy  23:43, 21 July 2018 (EDT)
===Comment===


Love it! That one is going to be awesome! [[User:Dragonfirebreath25|Dragonfirebreath25]] ([[User talk:Dragonfirebreath25|talk]]) 13:07, 29 July 2018 (EDT)
== Ridley vs. Meta Ridley ==
 
The most famous creature from the Metroid serie is fighting its resurrection form. Who will win ? [[User:Metalink187|Metalink187]] ([[User talk:Metalink187|talk]]) 16:31, 28 April 2009 (UTC)
 
===Support===
# <span style="border:2px bottomset black;background-color: black;-moz-border-radius:3px">'''[[User:The Horror|<font color="Red">The Horror</font>]]''''<sup>[[User_talk:The Horror|<font color="white">Speak if you dare</font>]]</sup></span> 16:38, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
#I wonder if the original Ridley or his resurrected form would win? [[Special:Contributions/220.253.197.146|220.253.197.146]] 06:56, 24 July 2009 (UTC)


===Oppose===
===Oppose===
#It's just the same character fighting against itself. [[Special:Contributions/220.253.198.197|220.253.198.197]] 07:53, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
#Neither of them appeared for more than about five minutes in the whole of the SSE - does anyone have enough of an opinion on either of them to actually vote? They're far too similar. The only difference I can discern is that Meta Ridley has to be defeated in 2 minutes, and is somehow even more predictable than Ridley as it only ever attacks from the left. Other than that, they're exactly the same thing. I think this would be a rather stale battle in which only about two people would vote. '''''<span style="font-family:Arial;">[[User:PenguinofDeath|<font color="silver">Penguin</font>]][[User talk:PenguinofDeath|<font color="gray">of</font>]][[Special:Contributions/PenguinofDeath|<font color="silver">Death</font>]]</span>''''' 08:39, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
#Reason #1 <font face="calibri">'''[[User:Fried beef1|<span style="color:orangered">Fried</span><span style="color:blue">beef1</span>]][[User Talk:Fried beef1|<span style="color:amethyst"><span style="font-size:60%">Screech</span></span>]]'''</font> 19:18, 24 July 2009 (UTC)


===Comments===
===Comments===


Don't know if it has already been suggested but... here it is ! :D [[User:Metalink187|Metalink187]] ([[User talk:Metalink187|talk]]) 20:27, 26 April 2009 (UTC)
The hell is going on ? It's been more than a week we suggested and there is no vote ? [[User:Metalink187|Metalink187]] ([[User talk:Metalink187|talk]]) 21:18, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
::Can I just say, what happened to my epicly simple Idea? Is it going to be saved for an anniversary? '''--[[User:The blue blur|<b><span style="color:darkblue">~The Blue</span></b>]]<b>[[User talk:The blue blur|<span style="color:purple"> Blur~</span>]]</b><sup>[[Special:Contributions/The blue blur|<span style="color:">New main in training!</span>]]</sup> 11:26, 25 May 2009 (UTC)


==[[Kirby (SSB4)|Kirby]] Vs. [[Jigglypuff (SSB4)| Jigglypuff]]==
I like the idea, but it's an obvious fight.  Meta Ridley is the stronger form of Ridley, right?  I'm neutral.[[User:L33tSilvie|<span style="color:gold;">L33t</span>]] [[User talk:L33tSilvie|<span style="color:silver;">Silvie</span>]] <sup><span style="color:Green;">[[Special:Contributions/L33tSilvie|I see wat u did thar...</span></sup>]] 12:21, 25 May 2009 (UTC)


Pink. Puffy. Powerful. Wait, which one am I talking about? It's pink puffball on pink puffball in this puffball brawl. Both are floaty, pink, and overall competitively useless! Both of their up specials can hinder their recoveries, but can jump a lot (maybe too much) so it's all good. It's the ULTIMATE BATTLE! What's that? You say it's not? Well then, [[Kirby]] or [[Jigglypuff]]. [[Special:Contributions/72.133.91.93|72.133.91.93]] 08:53, 22 July 2018 (EDT)Blueflame105
:That's one of the reasons that made me undecided at first but, if teh people don't like, they just need to type something in "Opposes", well nothing very horrific ^^ [[User:Metalink187|Metalink187]] ([[User talk:Metalink187|talk]]) 14:56, 25 May 2009 (UTC)


==Mr.Resetti vs. Nintendog==
Both of the super-annoying assist trophy distractions from Brawl! How did we miss it! '''[[User:Ike's Best Buddy|<span style="color:Red">Ike's</span> <span style="color:Brown">Best</span> <span style="color:Maroon">Buddy</span>]][[User Talk:Ike's Best Buddy|<small><sup><span style="color:silver">Here, my Friends</span></sup></small>]]'''
===Support===
===Support===
#(Enter encouraging, and supportive text here)'''[[User:The blue blur|<b><span style="color:Blue">~Teh Blue</span></b>]]<b>[[User talk:The blue blur|<span style="color:Gray"> Blur~</span>]]</b><sup><span style="color:Blue">~You're too slow!~</span></sup> 17:22, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
#Yeah, why not?[[User:L33tSilvie|<span style="color:gold;">L33t</span>]] [[User talk:L33tSilvie|<span style="color:silver;">Silvie</span>]] <sup><span style="color:Green;">[[Special:Contributions/L33tSilvie|I see wat u did thar...</span></sup>]] 21:22, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
#Is there anything more annoying than these two guys?  Also, I like Metalink187's idea. --[[User:Enigmatic Mr. L|Enigmatic Mr. L]] ([[User talk:Enigmatic Mr. L|talk]]) 19:15, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
#This is a great idea! [[Special:Contributions/220.253.198.197|220.253.198.197]] 07:53, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
#Objections overruled. This is a very creative idea. [[Special:Contributions/220.253.197.146|220.253.197.146]] 06:56, 24 July 2009 (UTC)
#Haha, I like his one!  The arena needs some more creative fights.  '''[[User:Cheezperson|<span style="color:gold">Cheez</span><span style="color:red">person</span>]]''' {[[User talk:Cheezperson|<span style="color:steelblue">talk</span>]]}[[Special:Contributions/Cheezperson|<span style="color:silver">stuff</span>]]''' 19:48, 24 July 2009 (UTC)
#Orange Yoda 14:20, 24 August 2009 (UTC) - They ARE annoying, well... what the heck! Let's do it!


===Oppose===
===OBJECTION! (sorry, thought about the legal system!)===
This match was already done in a lopsided result. Also I noticed that much of your contributions have been Smash Arena related and we're currently on a Red wiki status and spending to much time in the Smash Arena without contributing to the mainspace can result in an IP block (or probation if you're a registered user). [[:User:ZeldaStarfoxfan2164|ZeldaStarfoxfan2164]] ([[User talk:ZeldaStarfoxfan2164|talk]]) is bad for me 18:52, 23 July 2018 (EDT)
 
===Comments===
LOL Funny ! ^^ I was thinking about something : how about an inversed fight ? People would vote for the one which they think it's the most annoying. ;) [[User:Metalink187|<font  color="purple"><span style="font-family:Arial;">'''Metalink'''</span></font>]]<font color="red">[[User talk:Metalink187|<font color="red"> '''is watchin' ya...'''</font>]]</font> 19:43, 14 June 2009 (UTC)
 
== Blastoise vs. Squirtle ==
 
The two evolutionary relatives now duke it out in the arena! Will the Poke Ball character come out on top, or will he suffer to the Tiny Turtle Pokemon?[[Image:Meta Knight.jpg|20 px]][[User:Lordzilla|Lordzilla]] 00:14, 18 June 2009 (UTC)
===Support===
#Cool. I wonder which Pokemon's Hydro Pump would be more damaging in the end. [[Special:Contributions/220.253.197.146|220.253.197.146]] 06:56, 24 July 2009 (UTC)
===Oppression===
#Blastoise comes as a trophy only (unless I'm mistaken), so a hugely 1-sided fight. '''[[User:Ike's Best Buddy|<span style="color:Red">Ike's</span> <span style="color:Brown">Best</span> <span style="color:Maroon">Buddy</span>]][[User Talk:Ike's Best Buddy|<small><sup><span style="color:silver">Here, my Friends</span></sup></small>]]'''
#I don't know mah Pokeymans very well, but isn't Blastoise an evolved form of Squirtle? If so,then there's no real contest.
#Fairly unoriginal. Would work if you used other pokemon maybe. [[Special:Contributions/220.253.198.197|220.253.198.197]] 07:53, 10 July 2009 (UTC)


===Comments===
===Comments===
I apologize. I was not aware of this, and will refrain from doing Smash Arena things, at least until wiki status lowers. I have been attempting tobe more helpful on the wiki, but overall, I'm not good at it. [[Special:Contributions/72.133.91.93|72.133.91.93]] 22:51, 25 July 2018 (EDT)Blueflame105


==[[Cloud Strife]] Vs. [[Solid Snake]]==
While these two super soldiers are largely considered Playstation classics, they've found there way into Nintendo's big crossover. Both may take some stuff through cloning (Cloud has Zack's memories and abilities, Snake is a literal clone of Big Boss) but who comes out on top? Btw, they're both relatively mature for Nintendo titles --[[User:Myth|<font color="orange">'''Myth'''</font>]] [[File:Myth Kirby.png|19px|link=User talk:Myth]] 21:19, 11 August 2018 (EDT)


=== Support ===
== Diagla vs. Metal Gear REX ==
I nearly removed this suggestion because I thought it involved an ''Ultimate'' character, then I found out Cloud was in ''SSB4''. [[:User:ZeldaStarfoxfan2164|ZeldaStarfoxfan2164]] ([[User talk:ZeldaStarfoxfan2164|talk]]) is a never lover boy  22:42, 11 August 2018 (EDT)
 
There both  background charachters. They both made out of some kind of Steel. Now they  meet on the field of battle to protect their title. Who will come on top! The  Lord of Time or the robot of great size and strentgh!?[[User:Smash Shadic]] 18:11, 22 June 2009(UTC)
 
===Support===
#Nature vs Technology. Interesting fight. [[Special:Contributions/220.253.198.197|220.253.198.197]] 07:53, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
===Oppose===
*Dialga can actually harmful effecs.  Metal Gear roars menacingly while doing nothing to help or hurt players.[[User:L33tSilvie|<span style="color:gold;">L33t</span>]] [[User talk:L33tSilvie|<span style="color:silver;">Silvie</span>]] <sup><span style="color:Green;">[[Special:Contributions/L33tSilvie|I see wat u did thar...</span></sup>]] 21:22, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
#This is a very uneven matchup. A robot has no chance against the Lord of Time. [[Special:Contributions/220.253.197.146|220.253.197.146]] 06:56, 24 July 2009 (UTC)
 
===Commentes===


They are great characters in both ''Smash 4'' and ''Ultimate'' so, let's do it! By the way, Cloud's debut game is ''Final Fantasy VII'', while ''Metal Gear Solid'' is Snake's first game. [[User:Dragonfirebreath25|Dragonfirebreath25]] ([[User talk:Dragonfirebreath25|talk]]) 15:23, 23 August 2018 (EDT)


=== Oppose ===
== Luigi vs. Jigglypuff ==
=== Comments ===


==[[Battlefield]] Vs. [[Big Battlefield]]==
Both are the only two characters to appear as an unlockable character in every smash bros. game. Additionally, they both have an extremely powerful move that leaves them very vulnerable if it misses (Luigi's Super Jump Punch and Jigglypuff's Rest). [[User:Enigmatic Mr. L|Enigmatic Mr. L]] ([[User talk:Enigmatic Mr. L|talk]]) 19:15, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
Pretty simple idea. Battlefield vs its big bro. --[[User:Myth|<font color="orange">'''Myth'''</font>]] [[File:Myth Kirby.png|19px|link=User talk:Myth]] 12:05, 28 December 2018 (EST)


=== Support ===
=== Support ===
Not a bad idea. <span style="color:lightblue">Everone123</span> ([[User:Everone123|userpage]] • [[User talk:Everone123|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Everone123|contribs]]) 22:15, 7 January 2019 (EST)
#Why not? They also have Final Smashes which momentarily leave them unable to move. [[Special:Contributions/220.253.198.197|220.253.198.197]] 07:53, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
# Plus, [[Puff Up| one of them]] is crap, while [[Negative Zone|the other]] isn't bad. Goes the same with the actual characters too. '''[[User:Ike's Best Buddy|<span style="color:Red">Ike's</span> <span style="color:Brown">Best</span> <span style="color:Maroon">Buddy</span>]][[User Talk:Ike's Best Buddy|<small><sup><span style="color:silver">Here, my Friends</span></sup></small>]]''' 17:17, 16 July 2009 (UTC)
#They also have the PING! sound[[User:Majorabrawl|Majorabrawl]] ([[User talk:Majorabrawl|talk]]) 17:02, 18 July 2009 (UTC)
#They both have attacks which launch them flying across the screen and they can both put characters to sleep. [[Special:Contributions/220.253.197.146|220.253.197.146]] 06:56, 24 July 2009 (UTC)


=== Oppose ===
=== Oppose ===


No contest. Big Battlefield wins (Bigger means better). Try coming up with something else. --[[User:JackyBlooo|JackyBlooo]] ([[User talk:JackyBlooo|talk]]) 08:52, 3 January 2019 (EST)
=== Comments ===


=== Comments ===


== [[Luigi's Mansion]] vs. [[Dracula's Castle]] ==
== Fighting Alloy Team vs R.O.B. Squad ==
The guys from adventure mode take on the guys from classic mode. Will the R.O.B.s stay strong or will the copycat characters truimph? Smash Shadic 13:36 20 July 2009 (UTC)
 
===Support===
#War of the endless clone. Good idea! [[Special:Contributions/220.253.197.146|220.253.197.146]] 06:56, 24 July 2009 (UTC)
===Oppose===


Two locations, one being a haunted mansion in the middle of a spooky forest that is home to a green-clad  plumber, the other being a giant castle on the outskirts of Transylvania that is home to an evil vampire, both places equally spooky. --[[User:JackyBlooo|JackyBlooo]] ([[User talk:JackyBlooo|talk]]) 08:56, 3 January 2019 (EST)
===Comments===


=== Support ===
==Dialga vs. Palkia==
I think another fun connection is Dracula's Castle used to replace Luigi's Mansion in PM. --[[User:Myth|<font color="orange">'''Myth'''</font>]] [[File:Myth Kirby.png|19px|link=User talk:Myth]] 18:32, 19 January 2019 (EST)
One can distort time, the other space. They both make trouble on Spear Pillar. Which one of the titans shall survive ? [[User:Metalink187|<font color="purple"><span style="font-family:Arial;">'''Metalink'''</span></font>]]<font color="red">[[User talk:Metalink187|<font color="red"> '''is watchin' ya...'''</font>]]</font> 19:37, 20 July 2009 (UTC)
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#They're also both some of the most annoying characters in Brawl. Time and Space are pretty evenly matched forces so this fight would be a hard one to pick the winner. [[Special:Contributions/220.253.197.146|220.253.197.146]] 06:56, 24 July 2009 (UTC)
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This is my kind of battle! [[User:Dragonfirebreath25|Dragonfirebreath25]] ([[User talk:Dragonfirebreath25|talk]]) 18:35, 19 January 2019 (EST)
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This obvious fight has started with Pokémon Diamond and Pearl. Let's make it going on ! [[User:Metalink187|<font color="purple"><span style="font-family:Arial;">'''Metalink'''</span></font>]]<font color="red">[[User talk:Metalink187|<font color="red"> '''is watchin' ya...'''</font>]]</font> 19:37, 20 July 2009 (UTC)


Yeah both places can be considered scary places. It would make a perfect battle. [[File:George Jones.jpg|25px]] [[User:Corrin Fan|Corrin Fan]] [[File:Walls Can Fall.jpg|25px]] 14:25, 21 January 2019 (EST)
== Master Hand vs. Tabuu ==


Seems like a fun idea. [[User:Crazy456Rhino|Crazy456Rhino]] ([[User talk:Crazy456Rhino|talk]]) 13:07, April 18, 2019 (EDT)
The battle of the bosses. Will the dominating hand or the magical figure win? [[User:Alxeedo111|<font face="Exotc350 Bd BT" color="red"><big>Alxeedo</big>]]</font> <small>[[User talk:Alxeedo111|Blah blah blah...]] ([[Special:Contributions/Alxeedo111|Contribs]]|[[Special:Editcount/Alxeedo111|Editcount]])</small>


Giving this a vote since the current arena seriously needs to end already. Also the PM trivia is neat.<span style="font-family: Algerian"> '''[[User: supatoad64|<span style="color:blue;"> Supα Toαd 64,</span>]] [[User talk: supatoad64|<span style="color:aqua;"> The Best </span>]]''' </span> [[ Image: MK64ToadCSP.jpg|20px ]] 09:15, August 31, 2019 (EDT)
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==[[Bayonetta]] vs. [[Joker]]==
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Both are black clad, gun wielding, Sega owned (well, kinda for Joker), DLC fighters. But which one will come out on top? [[User:Crazy456Rhino|Crazy456Rhino]] ([[User talk:Crazy456Rhino|talk]]) 13:07, April 18, 2019 (EDT)
== Toon Link vs. Young Link ==


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Two young links up to the arena will the windwaker young link win or will the ocarina of time young link win?[[User:Sure25|'''<span style="color:purple;background:pink">Hi I am Sure25!</span>''']] <small>[[User talk:Sure25|Talk to me!]]</small> 13:31, 16 August 2009 (UTC)  
* Bayonetta and Joker are extremely similar, this battle could make a difference. [[File:Derekblue1SigHead1.png|20px|link=]] [[User:Derekblue1|<span style="color:#20B2AA;">'''Derekblue1'''</span>]] [[User talk:Derekblue1|<span style="color:#20B2AA;">(talk)</span>]] [[File:Derekblue1SigHead2.png|20px|link=]] 09:54, April 15, 2020 (EDT)


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==[[Mario]] vs. [[Donkey Kong]] vs. [[Pacman]]==
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All three are iconic fighters who were huge hits in the early 1980s, shoot projectiles, and are great at rescuing people. But things have been bubbling around Peach since Wii U, and there is only one way to settle things. Which will get the princess? [[User:Met3oR|Met3oR]] ([[User talk:Met3oR|talk]]) 22:17, April 13, 2020
== King Dedede vs. Ice Climbers ==


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The fur-coated, hammer-wielding combatants are in the Arena! Will Dedede smash the Ice Climbers or will Popo and Nana overwhelm the King? <font face="calibri" size="3">[[User:SapphireKirby777|<span style="color:blue">SapphireKirby</span>]]</font>[[User Talk:SapphireKirby777|<span style="color:gold">'''777'''</span>]] 16:33, 21 August 2009 (UTC)


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==[[Pikachu]] vs. [[Lucas]]==
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Both have the power of Thor. [[User:Met3oR|Met3oR]] ([[User talk:Met3oR|talk]]) 14:38, May 09, 2020
== Mario vs. Sonic ==
They've been in the olympics, and now they are brawling! The epic battle of Nintendo and Sega's mascots will figure out which is better! Will it be the fast & furious? Or will it be the hero of the Mushroom Kingdom? Find out now! [[User:Orange Yoda]]14:18, 24 August 2009 (UTC)


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*Quick heads up, the wiki's Smash Arena has been discontinued in favor of the Discord server's. The suggestions should go there instead. [[User:Cookies and Creme|<span style="font-family: Georgia;color: black;">Cookies</span>]][[File:CnC Signature.png|20px]][[User talk:Cookies and Creme|<span style="font-family: Georgia; color: black;">Creme</span>]] 11:15, May 9, 2020 (EDT)

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