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This forum has the purpose of helping to select what battles will eventually take place in the [[Forum:Smash Arena|Smash Arena]]. If you would like to make a suggestion, please feel free to leave it here. '''''New suggestions are placed at the bottom of the page'''''. Be sure to state your reason you suggested it and put the support, reject, and comments sections underneath it.
This talk page has the purpose of helping to select what will eventually be our semi-weekly competition on [[Forum:Smash Arena|Smash Arena]]. If you would like to make a suggestion, please feel free to leave it here. '''''New suggestions are placed at the bottom of the page'''''. Be sure to state your reasons why you suggested it and put the support, reject, and comments sections underneath it, kay (referred to the suggested fight underneath this). Have fun!
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Like the idea? SUPPORT! SUPPORT! SUPPORT! I'll queued any fights that I think is really good. This isn't about who's stronger or what not, this is a popularity contest you know. So you can vote for who you think is strong, better, or just simply vote cuz you're an extreme fanboy to that character, stage, trophy assist, pokemon, or whateva!<br><br>
If you would like to see what people have suggested in the past, please refer to this page's archives.


Like the idea? Be sure to give it your support. Note that this page is not to be used for the actual voting between fighters; that happens in the Arena itself. Remember, the combatants don't necessarily have to be able to fight each other normally in Smash Bros.
 
=Queued=
The following were archived and will be put up as actual fights some week. I've decided that they'll go in no order. Basically, each week will be random. NO ONE EDITS THIS SECTION BUT [[User:Squallinoa_08|SQUALLINOA_08]], since he decide what fights will be put up.
*Kirby vs. Meta Knight<br>
*Ness vs. Lucas<br>
*Mario vs. Link<br>
*Samus vs. Zero Suit Samus<br>
*Pikachu vs. Kirby<br>
*Mewtwo vs. Lucario<br>
*Galleom vs. Duon <br>
*Young Link vs. Toon Link<br>
*Mario vs. Sonic<br>
*Charizard vs. Bowser<br>
*Captain Falcon vs. Snake<br>
*Icicle Mountain vs. Mushroomy Kingdom<br>
*Bowser vs. Squirtle<br>


=Rules=
=Rules=
===Posting suggestions===
*Place new suggestions at '''THE BOTTOM''' of page. If you place them at the top, they will be lost when we archive the page. You have been warned.  
*Only Smash Bros.-related fights are permitted. Fights don't have to be between playable characters, but the combatants must have appeared in at least one Smash Bros. game.
*[[User:Squallinoa_08|Squallinoa]] has final say over all of the fights.  
**Outside very specific circumstances, no fights are allowed between combatants that only appear in a game (or a batch of downloadable content) that has yet to be released.
*Don't suggest fights that are already done or have been in already placed on the Queued list already. (Check the queued list if your suggestion is already listed for being place for a fight in the next few weeks). [[Forum:Past Fights|Check this list]] to view any fights that have been done.
*If there are already 10 open suggestions, you should probably reconsider adding a new one. If there are 15, it is highly recommended you do not. There is no limit to the number of open suggestions, but having too many clutters the page and makes it more difficult to keep track of.
*ONLY fights that are related to Super Smash Bros. It can be between two characters from the series only. No characters from Mario, Legend of Zelda, or other games that haven't been in the game. Non-playable characters, like the trophy assistances and pokemons are allowed, as long as they are from the SSB series.
*[[SmashWiki:Smash Arena#History|Check this list]] to view the fights that have been done. Repeat fights are permitted if they occurred '''100 or more rounds ago'''. As matchups over 100 rounds ago are moved off that particular list, the list is the definitive source on what can't be repeated. Note that repeats close to this cutoff may still be valid if the queue is full enough that the fight's acceptance will allow it to be outside the 100-round zone.
*It doesn't really matter if they are in total different SSB games. As long as they are in the SSB series, they can brawl each other!
*Do not post more than one suggestion at a time. Each user may post '''one suggestion per week''' (i.e. one every seven days).
*put a <nowiki>#</nowiki> before your votes.
*'''Sign your suggestions/votes/comments with <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> and a # in front of it''' (you don't necessarily have to put # in the comments sections, but you do have to sign with <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>).
*Place new suggestions at '''the bottom''' of the page.
*You can retract and remove your own suggestion, but it still counts as your suggestion for that week.
**If your suggestion is removed because it's invalid or because your week isn't up, it doesn't count as your suggestion for that week. That said, users who constantly post invalid or rapid-fire suggestions may be suspended from suggesting for a few weeks, and may risk [[SW:PROB|probation]].
*Similarly to the above, you cannot edit a suggestion once people have started to vote on it. Editing the description is fine, just don't alter the combatants.


===Voting and comments===
=Show Your Support=
*Don't vote on your own suggestion.
{{SA Box}}
*Post '''why''' you support/oppose. Don't just say, "Oh, this is a cool idea". Explain why you like/don't like the fight. This is not required but adds credence to your opinion - remember, suggestions are not accepted or rejected based on a simple vote count.
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*The comments section is to be used for relevant comments only.
<nowiki>{{SA Box}}</nowiki> - Userbox made for the Smash Arena by [[User:Squallinoa_08|Squallinoa_08]]. Please, if you must, place these on your user pages. It will tell you the new fights every week.
*Do not use this page to argue with other users over their reasons and opinions. You can civilly point out an inconsistency or mistake in their description, but if you say things like, "That's stupid", that could potentially start an argument in the comments, you are breaching this rule.
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*'''Do not make this page into the Smash Arena itself.''' This is for deciding what goes there, not voting on the winner.
'''HELP WANTED''' - I need a logo/banner creator! I want to create a banner for the Smash Arena. Unfornately, I don't have the program to do so. If you are a logo/banner creator, please contact me, [[User:Squallinoa_08|Squallinoa_08]]. Thank you!


===Acceptance or rejection===
=Suggestions=
*'''The SA operator(s) has final say over all the fights.''' Suggestions and comments are merely a way for the community to influence the fights, and can be used, edited, or ignored at the operator(s)'s discretion.
Remember, <big>'''''New suggestions are placed at the bottom of the page'''''</big>.
*Acceptance of fights is not based simply on votes. The votes are used to judge the community's opinion of the matchup; again it is solely the operator(s)'s decision on what the bouts are.
*Suggestions are purged every time a new Smash Arena round is posted. It is at this time they are either accepted and placed into the queue, or they are rejected. Not all suggestions are purged at once - only those that are both older than the rest and have higher vote counts. Usually suggestions need at least 5 votes to be decided upon, unless they are very old.
**In the vein of the above, do not repost a suggestion of yours that has been removed recently, since it's either already lined up or been rejected. See the Queue section for an idea of how long it may take for your suggestion to show up.
*If a suggestion of yours has been rejected in the past, you may repost it three months (90 days) after its rejection. However, it is unlikely for a rejected suggestion to be accepted in the future, so it is likely more productive to suggest something else.
*Descriptions are not guaranteed to be included as-is should a suggestion pass.


=Tips=
==Charizard vs. bowser==
*In most cases, the combatants of a match should share similarities but have key differences. However, matchups between total opposites are also interesting. Avoid the middle ground where combatants have little in common but are also not polar opposites.
Fire breathers
*Protagonist vs. antagonist matches (e.g. Mario vs. Bowser) are valid, and many of them succeed in the arena, but are usually pushed aside by the community in favour of matchups that are less "obvious". Matchups born from in-game events (e.g. Subspace Emissary groupings) or matchups that are big in their home universes but not necessarily in Smash Bros. (e.g. legendary Pokémon fights) tend to fall into this as well.
*While rematches are valid once 100 rounds have passed, do not expect much enthusiasm for them unless the original match was very close or a tie.
*Regular matches (one-on-one) are favoured far more than three-way fights. If you have an idea for a three-way fight, see if one of the three combatants is really necessary, and try to get it down to two. Fights of more than three participants have to be sock-knocking genius in order to be even considered, so unless you're convinced it will be very popular, turn your efforts to something else.
*The description can sway peoples' opinions of a matchup. While the most interesting suggestions can be accepted on their own merits, those in the middle can be made or broken by how you present them.


=Queue=
===Support===
The current queue is as such:
#Good idea. But they're more than just Fire breathers, by the way. [[User:Meteorite|Meteorite]] ([[User talk:Meteorite|talk]]) 10:18, 25 October 2008 (UTC)
{{SA Queue}}
#I guess this well be an interesting fight. Pokemon vs. the king of all Koopas. [[User:Squallinoa 08|Squallinoa 08]] ([[User talk:Squallinoa 08|talk]]) 04:58, 26 October 2008 (UTC)
Hover the cursor over a round number to see its predicted start date. Empty spots are shown in grey.


When the queue becomes full (all the grey spots are filled up), suggestions will be suspended. You may continue to vote on current suggestions, but no more may be proposed. Once the queue drains out to a size of one, suggestions will be re-opened.
===reject===


The queue is not set in stone; new suggestions may appear before older ones and it may change at any time. The queue attempts to balance out fights so that specific participants or universes aren't used too much in a short time.
===comment===


The contents of the queue are a secret to maintain mystery and intrigue.
==Sandbag vs. Mite==
Sandbag can't attack, but he likes getting attacked.  Mites attack, and they hate getting attacked. One will win!


=Show Your Support=
===Support===
{{SA Box}}
It sounds ridiculous. But... that is a good point. You got my vote! '''[[User:Pikabro|<span style="color:Blue"> Pikabro</span>]][[User Talk:Pikabro|<small><sup><span style="color:orange">PIKA!</span></sup></small>]]''' 23:11, 25 October 2008 (UTC)
{{clr}}
[[Template:SA Box|<code><nowiki>{{SA Box}}</nowiki></code>]] - Smash Arena userbox; originally by [[User:Squallinoa_08|Squallinoa 08]], modified by [[User:Toomai|Toomai]]. If you wish, place it on your user page. It will tell you the new fights as they happen.
 
=Template=
To make a suggestion the easy way, copy the following code, paste it into the bottom of the editing window, and fill out the relevant parts:
<pre>
==<participant 1> vs. <participant 2>==
 
<description of fight, maybe a few reasons you think it would be a good matchup> ~~~~


===Support===
These  two are very similar.  [[User:ParaGoomba348|<font color="Orange">Para</font><font color="Purple">Goomba</font><font color="Black">348</font>]] ([[User talk:ParaGoomba348|<font color="Dark Orange">C'mon, just DIE!!!</font>]]) 17:53, 26 October 2008 (UTC)


===Oppose===
Support, either mite will asplode from exhaustion or sandbag will burst. [[User:Alex25|Alex25]] ([[User talk:Alex25|talk]])


===Rejects===
===Comments===
===Comments===
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=Suggestions=


==[[Rosalina]] vs. [[Bowser Jr.]]==
==Meta Ridley vs Meta Knight==


Two of the newest characters from the ''Mario'' universe makes it into ''SSB4''. Both have chargeable projectiles which stop dead upon hit. Who will rule 21st century ''Mario''? [[:User:ZeldaStarfoxfan2164|ZeldaStarfoxfan2164]] ([[User talk:ZeldaStarfoxfan2164|talk]]) is a never lover boy  22:00, 9 December 2017 (EST)
Meta, Meta, Meta what else can I say?


===Support===
===Support===
I think it has an interesting idea behind it. It has my vote! [[User:Crazy456Rhino|Crazy456Rhino]] ([[User talk:Crazy456Rhino|talk]]) 15:41, 22 March 2018 (EDT)
Sure, why not. [[User:Alex25|Alex25]] ([[User talk:Alex25|talk]])


Sounds like fun! Let's try it! [[User:Dragonfirebreath25|Dragonfirebreath25]] ([[User talk:Dragonfirebreath25|talk]]) 07:33, 23 March 2018 (EDT)
===Reject===
Doesn't make much sense, like comparing Wolf to Dedede because they're both animals...[[User:Fried beef1|Fried beef1]] ([[User talk:Fried beef1|talk]]) 23:04, 6 November 2008 (UTC)


I agree with Crazy Rhino. It's interesting. Why not. Blueflame105
===Comments===
Who cares? Not every fight has to make sense or have to do with a game. If it was I'd just go play another game with that charact in it. '''[[User:Pikabro|<span style="color:Blue"> Pikabro</span>]][[User Talk:Pikabro|<small><sup><span style="color:orange">PIKA!</span></sup></small>]]''' 01:01, 8 November 2008 (UTC)


Kind of an obvious one. [[User:TheNuttyOne|TheNuttyOne]] 14:50, 7 June 2018 (EDT)
==Infinite Glacier v. Mushroomy Kingdom==
Both are infinite, with Mushroomy Kingdom being infinitely long, and the glacier being infinitely wide or tall...-[[User:Fried beef1|Fried beef1]] ([[User talk:Fried beef1|talk]]) 19:14, 26 October 2008 (UTC)


===Oppose===
===Support===
# reject number 1, this is a popularity contest not a battle (i think) [[User:Solar flute|Solar flute]] ([[User talk:Solar flute|talk]])
#Totally, this is about popularity.  You can't make Galleom fight Duon, but it still works.-[[User:Fried beef1|Fried beef1]] ([[User talk:Fried beef1|talk]]) 22:08, 31 October 2008 (UTC)
#This is clearly worth having. {[[User:Miles.oppenheimer|My name is Miles,]] [[User talk:Miles.oppenheimer|and I approve]] [[Special:Contributions/Miles.oppenheimer|this message.]]} 20:51, 2 November 2008 (UTC)
#I like this idea. You know, the SA isn't about two characters fighting, it's a popularity contest too! Basically, you're also voting for your favorite! Which you like better and stuff like that, not by strength and stuff. [[User:Squallinoa 08|Squallinoa 08]] ([[User talk:Squallinoa 08|talk]]) 22:24, 4 November 2008 (UTC)


===Comments===
I jus wanna be dumb xP[[Special:Contributions/72.197.63.163|72.197.63.163]] 01:39, 8 November 2008 (UTC)


==[[Bowser]] vs. [[Bowser Jr.]]==
===Reject===
It's the battle of the Koopas! The Koopa King and the Koopa Prince are a royal duo. Who will rule this Koopa brawl between two ''Mario'' universe enemies? [[User:Dragonfirebreath25|Dragonfirebreath25]] ([[User talk:Dragonfirebreath25|talk]]) 07:49, 23 March 2018 (EDT)
This is stupid. How could STAGES fight? [[User:Masterman|<font color="Orange">Masterman</font>]] [[User talk:Masterman|<font color="Black">Be Afraid,</font>]][[Special:Contributions/Masterman|<font color="Orange">Very</font> <font color="Black">Afraid!</font>]]


===Support===
Supporter number two; stages can't fight! Galeom and Duon can!! '''[[User:Pikabro|<span style="color:Blue"> Pikabro</span>]][[User Talk:Pikabro|<small><sup><span style="color:orange">PIKA!</span></sup></small>]]''' 08:43, 3 November 2008 (UTC)
It would be en epic koopa battle. [[:User:ZeldaStarfoxfan2164|ZeldaStarfoxfan2164]] ([[User talk:ZeldaStarfoxfan2164|talk]]) is a never lover boy  19:59, 9 May 2018 (EDT)


Sure, why not? [[User:TheNuttyOne|TheNuttyOne]] 14:50, 7 June 2018 (EDT)
Are you for real? This is the stupidest thing I've ever heard, and I've listened to Sarah Palin. --'''[[User:Toon Ganondorf|<span style="color:green">Toon</span> <span style="color:purple">Ganondorf</span>]][[User Talk:Toon Ganondorf|<small><sup><span style="color:Gold">CHAT</span></sup></small>]]''' 00:45, 8 November 2008 (UTC)


===Oppose===
===Comments===
I don't know. This seems kind of obvious. I don't think they're different enough. You're entitled to your opinion though. Blueflame105
Pikabro, I'm meaning literally, as in the fact that you can't fight Duon using Galleom (vice versa) without using cheat devices...[[User:Fried beef1|Fried beef1]] ([[User talk:Fried beef1|talk]]) 23:04, 6 November 2008 (UTC)


===Comments===
But still. If you did use a cheat the WOULD fight! you can only be on one stage at a time!!!!!!! '''[[User:Pikabro|<span style="color:Blue"> Pikabro</span>]][[User Talk:Pikabro|<small><sup><span style="color:orange">PIKA!</span></sup></small>]]''' 00:59, 8 November 2008 (UTC)


==[[Villager]] vs. [[Rosalina]]==
Hey, Pikabro, this is queued anyways, so you couldn't do anything else about it.  Second, why were you on at 00:59??  That's like 1 o'clock in the morning!  Also, I'm a die-hard Republican, so watch it, Toon Ganondorf...  I know where you live... [[User:Fried beef1|<font color="Red">Fried beef1</font>]] [[User talk:Fried beef1|<font color="Blue">Holler</font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Fried beef1|<font color="Green">Gifts</font>]] 00:19, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
== Giga Bowser vs. Wario-Man ==


Both characters are fun and have a special move that can negate most projectiles (Pocket and Gravitational Pull, respectively) and are both fairly new. Both are newcomers. Who would win? What do you think? [[Special:Contributions/72.133.91.93|72.133.91.93]] 16:02, 9 May 2018 (EDT)Blueflame105 3:01, March 9 2018 (American Central Time)
Two Final Smash Transormations.


===Support===
===Support===
A great battle for me so, let's give that a try! [[User:Dragonfirebreath25|Dragonfirebreath25]] ([[User talk:Dragonfirebreath25|talk]]) 12:15, 10 May 2018 (EDT)
#I made it so...Giga Bowser vs. Wario-Man FTW!!!! [[User:ParaGoomba348|<font color="Orange">Para</font><font color="Purple">Goomba</font><font color="Black">348</font>]] ([[User talk:ParaGoomba348|<font color="Dark Orange">C'mon, just DIE!!!</font>]]) 02:32, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
# interesting. Also, to the two rejects, the smash arena is a popularity contest, not a battle.So it wouldn't matter if they could fight infinetly.  [[User:Solar flute|Solar flute]] ([[User talk:Solar flute|talk]]) 06:17, 31 October 2008 (UTC)
#Agree with Solar Flute, this is the first Final Smash SA anyways, so why not?[[User:Fried beef1|Fried beef1]] ([[User talk:Fried beef1|talk]]) 23:04, 6 November 2008 (UTC)
#I like this one '-'[[Special:Contributions/72.197.63.163|72.197.63.163]] 01:40, 8 November 2008 (UTC)


This is a great idea. Has my support. YoshisaurusThe9th
===Reject===


===Oppose===
No, that doesn't work. Wario Man can't be hurt and neither can be launched, they will just fight forever until Giga Bowser gets to 999% and then nothing. '''[[User:Pikabro|<span style="color:Blue"> Pikabro</span>]][[User Talk:Pikabro|<small><sup><span style="color:orange">PIKA!</span></sup></small>]]''' 05:35, 30 October 2008 (UTC)
I don't really get the connection. [[User:TheNuttyOne|TheNuttyOne]] 14:50, 7 June 2018 (EDT)
 
Same here. [[User:Masterman|<font color="Orange">Masterman</font>]] [[User talk:Masterman|<font color="Black">Be Afraid,</font>]][[Special:Contributions/Masterman|<font color="Orange">Very</font> <font color="Black">Afraid!</font>]]


===Comments===
===Comments===


==[[Koopalings|Wendy]] vs. [[Lucina]]==
== Crazy Hand vs Master Hand ==


The only unlockable females in the series. One fights to repair the future, the other fights to take over the world. One is driven and kind, the other is bratty and vicious. Which one reigns supreme? [[User:TheNuttyOne|TheNuttyOne]] 14:50, 7 June 2018 (EDT)
The battle of the hands! The lefty or the righty?
===Support===
It's my idea so I support![[User:Masterman|<font color="Orange">Masterman</font>]] [[User talk:Masterman|<font color="Black">Be Afraid,</font>]][[Special:Contributions/Masterman|<font color="Orange">Very</font> <font color="Black">Afraid!</font>]]


===Support===
===Reject===
A nice matchup in my favor. [[User:Dragonfirebreath25|Dragonfirebreath25]] ([[User talk:Dragonfirebreath25|talk]]) 16:36, 7 June 2018 (EDT)
#No way, these two will be so similar that the votes will come out to be stupid responses. (ex. Crazy Hand is way better because he's a leftie and so am I!!!)  Don't think it will work.-[[User:Fried beef1|Fried beef1]] ([[User talk:Fried beef1|talk]]) 22:08, 31 October 2008 (UTC)
===Oppose===
#That's senseless, Crazy and Master are ally's they work together, I don't like that one, sorry. '''[[User:Pikabro|<span style="color:Blue"> Pikabro</span>]][[User Talk:Pikabro|<small><sup><span style="color:orange">PIKA!</span></sup></small>]]''' 08:41, 3 November 2008 (UTC)
Just no. Please no. Also, Wendy isn't unlockable in for Wii U, and neither is Lucina, so that's driven entirely from the 3DS version, right? [[Special:Contributions/72.133.91.93|72.133.91.93]] 12:03, 8 June 2018 (EDT) Blueflame105


===Comments===
===Comments===
I'm a righty. [[User:Masterman|<font color="Orange">Masterman</font>]] [[User talk:Masterman|<font color="Black">Be Afraid,</font>]][[Special:Contributions/Masterman|<font color="Orange">Very</font> <font color="Black">Afraid!</font>]]


==[[Lakitu & Spinies]] vs. [[Hammer Bro.]]==
Crazy Hand is way better because he's a leftie and so am I!!! DON'T MOCK THE LEFTIES! [[User:Ike&#39;s Best Buddy|Ike&#39;s Best Buddy]] ([[User talk:Ike&#39;s Best Buddy|talk]]) 21:24, 6 November 2008 (UTC)


Two [[Assist Trophies]] from the ''Mario'' series. One throws Spinies, the other throws hammers. Which one is your favorite? [[User:Dragonfirebreath25|Dragonfirebreath25]] ([[User talk:Dragonfirebreath25|talk]]) 16:36, 7 June 2018 (EDT)
Ur ruining it. [[User: Masterman|<font color=red>Mas</font>ter<font color="Blue">man</font>]] [[User talk:Masterman|<font color="Green">What's the matter?</font>]][[Special:Contributions/Masterman|<font color="Brown">Scared?</font>]]


===Support===
LOL, didn't mean it that way, Ike's best buddy[[User:Fried beef1|Fried beef1]] ([[User talk:Fried beef1|talk]]) 23:04, 6 November 2008 (UTC)
It's a cool idea, so I'll support this. I would definitely vote for Hammer Bro. though. I hate going up against Lakitu. [[Special:Contributions/72.133.91.93|72.133.91.93]] 12:04, 8 June 2018 (EDT)Blueflame105
 
===Oppose===
Rematches are uninteresting in general, especially now that we're going to have 5 ''Smash'' games and now, there are more ''Mario'' based assists. [[:User:ZeldaStarfoxfan2164|ZeldaStarfoxfan2164]] ([[User talk:ZeldaStarfoxfan2164|talk]]) is a never lover boy  23:43, 21 July 2018 (EDT)
===Comments===
Not saying it couldn't happen as it was more than 100 matches ago, but discovered this same matchup with their Brawl incarnations in the archives. While I do like this matchup and fully support it, it does say you aren't likely to get a repeat unless people really want a different result or it was a tie. [[Special:Contributions/72.133.91.93|72.133.91.93]] 19:06, 6 July 2018 (EDT)Blueflame105
 
==[[Mario Circuit (SSB4)]] vs. [[Rainbow Road]]==


3, 2, 1... GO! Two stages from ''{{iw|mariowiki|Mario Kart|series}}'' battle it out in a race to the finish. One is from ''{{s|mariowiki|Mario Kart 8}}'' and ''{{s|mariowiki|Mario Kart 8 Deluxe}}'', the other is from ''{{s|mariowiki|Mario Kart 7}}''. Who will take the checkered flag in this match? [[User:Dragonfirebreath25|Dragonfirebreath25]] ([[User talk:Dragonfirebreath25|talk]]) 01:10, 17 June 2018 (EDT)
==Captain Falcon vs. Snake==


The manliest men of manlihood in a BRAWL!!!!
===Support===
===Support===
Great Idea in my opinion.
#I support my own idea. - [[User:GalaxiaD|GalaxiaD]] ([[User talk:GalaxiaD|talk]]) 21:50, 31 October 2008 (UTC)
[[User: CaptainDabsalot|CaptainDabsalot]] Or [[User Talk: CaptainDabsalot|The SavageCow]] 6/22/18 11:04 CST
#What the heck? I support. [[User:Masterman|<font color="Orange">Masterman</font>]] [[User talk:Masterman|<font color="Black">Be #Afraid,</font>]][[Special:Contributions/Masterman|<font color="Orange">Very</font> <font color="Black">Afraid!</font>]]
#Hmmm....the word EPIC comes to mind [[User:(Benji_Man)|<font face="Marker Felt" color="FF0000">BEN!</font>]]
#Hey this is great! But kinda odd too; a F-Zero racer vs a metal gear solid mercenary.
#This works, a good battle after all. *Falcon Paunch!!!!, but Snake flies away in [[Cypher]]*[[User:Fried beef1|Fried beef1]] ([[User talk:Fried beef1|talk]]) 23:04, 6
#Before Falcon used his Falcon Punch, Snake jumped and dodged, and then slow motion, Falcon is shocked, then Snake used his air-F, and fooom, BOOM Falcon's face is on the ground. Oh the humanity. Falcon rpolls away from Snake, and Snake taunts him, Falcon looks pissed, so he uses Falcom kick, and boom, into Snakes chest. You contine on[[User:Learner4|Learner4]] ([[User talk:Learner4|talk]]) 23:38, 6 November 2008 (UTC)
November 2008 (UTC)
#Works for me! '''[[User:Pikabro|<span style="color:Blue"> Pikabro</span>]][[User Talk:Pikabro|<small><sup><span style="color:orange">PIKA!</span></sup></small>]]''' 01:03, 8 November 2008 (UTC)


[[:User:ZeldaStarfoxfan2164|ZeldaStarfoxfan2164]] ([[User talk:ZeldaStarfoxfan2164|talk]]) is a never lover boy  23:43, 21 July 2018 (EDT)
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Hypocrites these days... <font face="forte">[[User:Blue Ninjakoopa|<span style="color:orange">Blue Ninjakoopa</span>]]</font><font face="forte"> <small><sup>[[User Talk:Blue Ninjakoopa|<span style="color:red">Talk to me</span>]]</sup></small></font>


==[[Daisy]] vs. [[Inkling]] vs. [[Ridley]]==
== Mario vs Luigi ==
 
The first three newcomers announced for SSBU. Which noob gets the most hype? ...Wait a second... [[Forum:Smash_Arena/Archive_40#Villager_vs._Wii_Fit_Trainer_vs._Mega_Man|hasn't something like this been done before?]] [[User:infernape612|<span style="color:orange">infernape]][[User talk:infernape612|<span style="color:orange">612</span>]]</span> 20:17, 21 July 2018 (EDT)


Brother vs brother!
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I mean... yeah. [[User:TheNuttyOne|TheNuttyOne]] 20:42, 21 July 2018 (EDT)
#I support my idea. [[User:Masterman|<font color="Orange">Masterman</font>]] [[User talk:Masterman|<font color="Black">Be Afraid,</font>]][[Special:Contributions/Masterman|<font color="Orange">Very</font> <font color="Black">Afraid!</font>]]
#Hmmm.... This might work [[User:Squallinoa 08|Squallinoa 08]] ([[User talk:Squallinoa 08|talk]]) 03:33, 3 November 2008 (UTC)
#No I like it! Luigi has lived in his bro's shadow for too long '''[[User:Pikabro|<span style="color:Blue"> Pikabro</span>]][[User Talk:Pikabro|<small><sup><span style="color:orange">PIKA!</span></sup></small>]]''' 01:07, 8 November 2008 (UTC)


ABSOLUTELY! Ultimate looks really good. Counting down the days till December 9th..... [[Special:Contributions/72.133.91.93|72.133.91.93]] 22:30, 21 July 2018 (EDT)Blueflame105
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# This is a VERY unoriginal fight. This one I actually predicted. [[User:Solar flute|Solar flute]] ([[User talk:Solar flute|talk]]) 02:34, 1 November 2008 (UTC)
#Agree with Solar Flute[[User:Fried beef1|Fried beef1]] ([[User talk:Fried beef1|talk]]) 23:04, 6 November 2008 (UTC)
# Ditto [[User:Ike&#39;s Best Buddy|Ike&#39;s Best Buddy]] ([[User talk:Ike&#39;s Best Buddy|talk]]) 10:44, 7 November 2008 (UTC)


The only time such matchup is valid. [[:User:ZeldaStarfoxfan2164|ZeldaStarfoxfan2164]] ([[User talk:ZeldaStarfoxfan2164|talk]]) is a never lover boy  23:43, 21 July 2018 (EDT)
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Love it! That one is going to be awesome! [[User:Dragonfirebreath25|Dragonfirebreath25]] ([[User talk:Dragonfirebreath25|talk]]) 13:07, 29 July 2018 (EDT)
== Bowser vs. Donkey Kong ==


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Clash of the titans.  Godzilla vs. King Kong.


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F...T...W! [[User:ParaGoomba348|<font color="Orange">Para</font><font color="Purple">Goomba</font><font color="Black">348</font>]] ([[User talk:ParaGoomba348|<font color="Dark Orange">C'mon, just DIE!!!</font>]]) 17:54, 2 November 2008 (UTC)
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== Bowser vs. Squirtle ==


==[[Kirby (SSB4)|Kirby]] Vs. [[Jigglypuff (SSB4)| Jigglypuff]]==
The epic battle to determine which size turtle is best!!
 
Pink. Puffy. Powerful. Wait, which one am I talking about? It's pink puffball on pink puffball in this puffball brawl. Both are floaty, pink, and overall competitively useless! Both of their up specials can hinder their recoveries, but can jump a lot (maybe too much) so it's all good. It's the ULTIMATE BATTLE! What's that? You say it's not? Well then, [[Kirby]] or [[Jigglypuff]]. [[Special:Contributions/72.133.91.93|72.133.91.93]] 08:53, 22 July 2018 (EDT)Blueflame105


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#My idea. {[[User:Miles.oppenheimer|My name is Miles,]] [[User talk:Miles.oppenheimer|and I approve]] [[Special:Contributions/Miles.oppenheimer|this message.]]} 20:53, 2 November 2008 (UTC)
#No that's awesome! Turtle battle! Yeah! '''[[User:Pikabro|<span style="color:Blue"> Pikabro</span>]][[User Talk:Pikabro|<small><sup><span style="color:orange">PIKA!</span></sup></small>]]''' 08:45, 3 November 2008 (UTC)
#I liek turtlez! - [[User:GalaxiaD|GalaxiaD]] ([[User talk:GalaxiaD|talk]]) 22:13, 5 November 2008 (UTC)
#LOL, this might be worth watching.[[User:Fried beef1|Fried beef1]] ([[User talk:Fried beef1|talk]]) 23:04, 6 November 2008 (UTC)
#Good fight. Lets see some turtle mayhem! --'''[[User:Toon Ganondorf|<span style="color:green">Toon</span> <span style="color:purple">Ganondorf</span>]][[User Talk:Toon Ganondorf|<small><sup><span style="color:Gold">CHAT</span></sup></small>]]''' 00:47, 8 November 2008 (UTC)


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This match was already done in a lopsided result. Also I noticed that much of your contributions have been Smash Arena related and we're currently on a Red wiki status and spending to much time in the Smash Arena without contributing to the mainspace can result in an IP block (or probation if you're a registered user). [[:User:ZeldaStarfoxfan2164|ZeldaStarfoxfan2164]] ([[User talk:ZeldaStarfoxfan2164|talk]]) is bad for me  18:52, 23 July 2018 (EDT)
#No, sorry. I think pokemons are stronger than Bowser (err... at least I thought). [[Special:Contributions/68.104.23.78|68.104.23.78]] 01:55, 3 November 2008 (UTC)


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I apologize. I was not aware of this, and will refrain from doing Smash Arena things, at least until wiki status lowers. I have been attempting tobe more helpful on the wiki, but overall, I'm not good at it. [[Special:Contributions/72.133.91.93|72.133.91.93]] 22:51, 25 July 2018 (EDT)Blueflame105
#bowser sure seems to be popular.
#68.104.23.78, believing Pokemon to be stronger is not a reason to reject a fight. If anything, it should make you want to see Squirtle win!--'''[[User:Toon Ganondorf|<span style="color:green">Toon</span> <span style="color:purple">Ganondorf</span>]][[User Talk:Toon Ganondorf|<small><sup><span style="color:Gold">CHAT</span></sup></small>]]''' 00:50, 8 November 2008 (UTC)


==[[Cloud Strife]] Vs. [[Solid Snake]]==
== Marth vs. Ike ==
While these two super soldiers are largely considered Playstation classics, they've found there way into Nintendo's big crossover. Both may take some stuff through cloning (Cloud has Zack's memories and abilities, Snake is a literal clone of Big Boss) but who comes out on top? Btw, they're both relatively mature for Nintendo titles --[[User:Myth|<font color="orange">'''Myth'''</font>]] [[File:Myth Kirby.png|19px|link=User talk:Myth]] 21:19, 11 August 2018 (EDT)


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Them Fire Emblem boys back at it again. Which swordsman will prevail?
I nearly removed this suggestion because I thought it involved an ''Ultimate'' character, then I found out Cloud was in ''SSB4''. [[:User:ZeldaStarfoxfan2164|ZeldaStarfoxfan2164]] ([[User talk:ZeldaStarfoxfan2164|talk]]) is a never lover boy  22:42, 11 August 2018 (EDT)


They are great characters in both ''Smash 4'' and ''Ultimate'' so, let's do it! By the way, Cloud's debut game is ''Final Fantasy VII'', while ''Metal Gear Solid'' is Snake's first game. [[User:Dragonfirebreath25|Dragonfirebreath25]] ([[User talk:Dragonfirebreath25|talk]]) 15:23, 23 August 2018 (EDT)


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#Great idea...glad I thought of it  [[User:(Benji_Man)|<font face="Marker Felt" color="FF0000">BEN!</font>]]
#Two of the greatest swordmans alive! [[User:Squallinoa 08|Squallinoa 08]] ([[User talk:Squallinoa 08|talk]]) 22:30, 4 November 2008 (UTC)


==[[Battlefield]] Vs. [[Big Battlefield]]==
Do it.[[Special:Contributions/72.197.63.163|72.197.63.163]] 22:51, 4 November 2008 (UTC)
Pretty simple idea. Battlefield vs its big bro. --[[User:Myth|<font color="orange">'''Myth'''</font>]] [[File:Myth Kirby.png|19px|link=User talk:Myth]] 12:05, 28 December 2018 (EST)


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Not a bad idea. <span style="color:lightblue">Everone123</span> ([[User:Everone123|userpage]] • [[User talk:Everone123|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Everone123|contribs]]) 22:15, 7 January 2019 (EST)


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No contest. Big Battlefield wins (Bigger means better). Try coming up with something else. --[[User:JackyBlooo|JackyBlooo]] ([[User talk:JackyBlooo|talk]]) 08:52, 3 January 2019 (EST)
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I still think Ike v. Roy would have been better. Roy for the win!


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==Yoshi vs Diddy Kong==
A "yoshi" dinosaur of Yoshi's Island. A smart alec chimpaneze. Who do you love?


== [[Luigi's Mansion]] vs. [[Dracula's Castle]] ==
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#I LOVE YOSHI! [[User:Squallinoa 08|Squallinoa 08]] ([[User talk:Squallinoa 08|talk]]) 22:30, 4 November 2008 (UTC)


Two locations, one being a haunted mansion in the middle of a spooky forest that is home to a green-clad  plumber, the other being a giant castle on the outskirts of Transylvania that is home to an evil vampire, both places equally spooky. --[[User:JackyBlooo|JackyBlooo]] ([[User talk:JackyBlooo|talk]]) 08:56, 3 January 2019 (EST)


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I think another fun connection is Dracula's Castle used to replace Luigi's Mansion in PM. --[[User:Myth|<font color="orange">'''Myth'''</font>]] [[File:Myth Kirby.png|19px|link=User talk:Myth]] 18:32, 19 January 2019 (EST)


This is my kind of battle! [[User:Dragonfirebreath25|Dragonfirebreath25]] ([[User talk:Dragonfirebreath25|talk]]) 18:35, 19 January 2019 (EST)


Yeah both places can be considered scary places. It would make a perfect battle. [[File:George Jones.jpg|25px]] [[User:Corrin Fan|Corrin Fan]] [[File:Walls Can Fall.jpg|25px]] 14:25, 21 January 2019 (EST)
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None of them, Pika Pika!![[User:Fried beef1|Fried beef1]] ([[User talk:Fried beef1|talk]]) 23:04, 6 November 2008 (UTC)
==Kirby vs Jigglypuff==
Two cute, round, cuddly (BUT DEADLY), pink creatures. Who's better?


Seems like a fun idea. [[User:Crazy456Rhino|Crazy456Rhino]] ([[User talk:Crazy456Rhino|talk]]) 13:07, April 18, 2019 (EDT)
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#Definitely! [[User:Squallinoa 08|Squallinoa 08]] ([[User talk:Squallinoa 08|talk]]) 23:09, 4 November 2008 (UTC)
#Sure. Balloons for the win![[User:Fried beef1|Fried beef1]] ([[User talk:Fried beef1|talk]]) 23:04, 6 November 2008 (UTC)
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Giving this a vote since the current arena seriously needs to end already. Also the PM trivia is neat.<span style="font-family: Algerian"> '''[[User: supatoad64|<span style="color:blue;"> Supα Toαd 64,</span>]] [[User talk: supatoad64|<span style="color:aqua;"> The Best </span>]]''' </span> [[ Image: MK64ToadCSP.jpg|20px ]] 09:15, August 31, 2019 (EDT)
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==Fox vs Sheik==
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Two fast ass kicking fighters! They almost would of kick each other's butts in the SubSpace Emissary. Who do you like?
 
==[[Bayonetta]] vs. [[Joker]]==
 
Both are black clad, gun wielding, Sega owned (well, kinda for Joker), DLC fighters. But which one will come out on top? [[User:Crazy456Rhino|Crazy456Rhino]] ([[User talk:Crazy456Rhino|talk]]) 13:07, April 18, 2019 (EDT)


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* Bayonetta and Joker are extremely similar, this battle could make a difference. [[File:Derekblue1SigHead1.png|20px|link=]] [[User:Derekblue1|<span style="color:#20B2AA;">'''Derekblue1'''</span>]] [[User talk:Derekblue1|<span style="color:#20B2AA;">(talk)</span>]] [[File:Derekblue1SigHead2.png|20px|link=]] 09:54, April 15, 2020 (EDT)
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==[[Mario]] vs. [[Donkey Kong]] vs. [[Pacman]]==
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All three are iconic fighters who were huge hits in the early 1980s, shoot projectiles, and are great at rescuing people. But things have been bubbling around Peach since Wii U, and there is only one way to settle things. Which will get the princess? [[User:Met3oR|Met3oR]] ([[User talk:Met3oR|talk]]) 22:17, April 13, 2020
==Sheik vs Zelda==
Zelda or her alter ego. WHO DO YOU LIKE?


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==[[Pikachu]] vs. [[Lucas]]==


Both have the power of Thor. [[User:Met3oR|Met3oR]] ([[User talk:Met3oR|talk]]) 14:38, May 09, 2020
==Great Temple v. Temple (Music)==
Which one is better, the old or the new?  This is for YOU to decide... [[User:Fried beef1|<font color="Red">Fried beef1</font>]] [[User talk:Fried beef1|<font color="Blue">Holler</font>]]  [[Special:Contributions/Fried beef1|<font color="Green">Gifts</font>]] 23:03, 7 November 2008 (UTC)


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#What does that even mean? How would you get pics for it?


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*Quick heads up, the wiki's Smash Arena has been discontinued in favor of the Discord server's. The suggestions should go there instead. [[User:Cookies and Creme|<span style="font-family: Georgia;color: black;">Cookies</span>]][[File:CnC Signature.png|20px]][[User talk:Cookies and Creme|<span style="font-family: Georgia; color: black;">Creme</span>]] 11:15, May 9, 2020 (EDT)
 
*First off, the official titles are ''Great Temple / Temple'' and ''Temple (Melee)''. Second, photos could be problematic. [[User:Miles.oppenheimer|<span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Miles''']] ([[User talk:Miles.oppenheimer|talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Miles.oppenheimer|contribs]])</span> 23:05, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
 
*Uhh... You.. uh.. can.. uh... do a pic of Melee temple and Brawl temple??  (IDK, I'm not Einstein, you'll have to bring him back to life...)  Fine, disregard this battle.  Delete it if you want... [[User:Fried beef1|<font color="Red">Fried beef1</font>]] [[User talk:Fried beef1|<font color="Blue">Holler</font>]]  [[Special:Contributions/Fried beef1|<font color="Green">Gifts</font>]] 00:14, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
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