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Ladies and gentlemen, welcome, editors and users, to the '''[[SmashWiki:Smash Arena|Smash Arena]]'''! Each week (or possibly less often, if the [[SW:SSS|wiki's status]] is Yellow or above) this forum hosts a tussle between two characters, items, stages or anything else from the [[Super Smash Bros. (series)|''Super Smash Bros.'' series]]! The winner gets, well, nothing. It's more of a poll but functionally, this is a popularity contest. You may vote for your favorite or who you think would win in a competition between the two combatants that round. No, you don't have to vote for the character with strength & power, or the stage considered more "fair", or the combatant with the most fans - just vote if you are a total fanboy of the participant. So what are you waiting for? Get voting!

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==Round 251: [[Kirby]] vs. [[Pit]]==
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===Votes for ''Kirby''===
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#Kirby is my Brawl main so...yup. Also I've never seen Pit use a copy ability soooo yeah Kirby is the obvious pick here. <span style="font-family:Algerian;font-size:10pt;background:#000;border:outset #083 2px;padding:1px">'''[[User:Serpent King|<span style="color:#083">Serpent</span>]] [[File:SKSig.png|12px|link=]] [[User talk:Serpent King|<span style="color:#ed0">King</span>]]'''</span> 11:43, 9 September 2017 (EDT)
#He reminds me of Jigglypuff. ''[[User:Alex Parpotta|<span style="color: blue;">'''Alex Parpotta'''</span>]] the [[User talk:Alex Parpotta|<span style="color: red;">'''flying lobster!'''</span>]]'' 11:48, 9 September 2017 (EDT)
#Do I even have to explain myself? <span style="font-family:Corbel; font-size:12pt">[[User:Smash Master|<span style="color:darkblue">'''Smash''']] [[User talk:Smash Master|<span style="color:darkgreen">'''Master'''</span>]]</span></span> 12:52, 9 September 2017 (EDT)
#Kirby is a pink warrior from Pop Star! He even has an animated series called ''Kirby: Right Back at Ya!''. From swallowing enemies to making copy abilities, Kirby is everyone's favorite Star Warrior! [[User:Dragonfirebreath25|Dragonfirebreath25]] ([[User talk:Dragonfirebreath25|talk]]) 13:29, 9 September 2017 (EDT)
#Pit's Pit but Kirby could be anyone. He could be Pit. [[:User:ZeldaStarfoxfan2164|ZeldaStarfoxfan2164]] ([[User talk:ZeldaStarfoxfan2164|talk]]) is a never lover boy  17:22, 9 September 2017 (EDT)
#No, do I even have to explain '''''MYSELF.''''' [[User:KirbysCrazyAppetite|Kirby's Crazy Appetite]] ~ [[File:KirbysCrazyAppetiteSig.png|50x20px]] 17:28, 9 September 2017 (EDT)
#Kirby has six jumps, a broken as fuck down air meteor, a hammer that kills under 50%, copy abilities, an up air that can juggle the crap out of opponents, and a guaranteed shield-breaker in his down-b that LEAVES HIM INVINCIBLE. Suck on that, Pit. [[User:Iron Gladiator|Iron Gladiator]] ([[User talk:Iron Gladiator|talk]]) 19:07, 9 September 2017 (EDT)
#Done. XD [[File:MetaKingSignature1.png]][[User talk:MetaKing|<span style="color: blue;">'''#20MK'''</span>]] [[User:MetaKing|<span style="color: navy;">'''MetaKing'''</span>]][[File:MetaKingSignature2.png]] 14:40, 10 September 2017 (EDT)
#Kirby can eat pit, so he can be pit: this match is unfair. Also, kirby has a hammer
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===Votes for ''Pit''===
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#Seriously? No love for Pit? [[File:AidanzapunkSig1.png|20px]][[User:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''Aidan'''</span>]], [[User talk:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''the Wandering Dragon Warrior'''</span>]][[File:AidanzapunkSig2.png|20px]] 22:39, 9 September 2017 (EDT)
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=Round 250: The Quarter-Millenial=
==[[Dr. Mario]] vs. [[Mewtwo]]==
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===Votes for ''Dr. Mario''===
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#Mewtwo is great, but I like Dr. Mario a tiny bit more. [[User:KirbysCrazyAppetite|Kirby's Crazy Appetite]] ~ [[File:KirbysCrazyAppetiteSig.png|50x20px]] 12:54, 26 August 2017 (EDT)
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===Votes for ''Mewtwo''===
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#Remind me again ''why'' Dr. Mario was brought back? [[File:AidanzapunkSig1.png|20px]][[User:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''Aidan'''</span>]], [[User talk:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''the Wandering Dragon Warrior'''</span>]][[File:AidanzapunkSig2.png|20px]] 19:14, 26 August 2017 (EDT)
#Dr. Mario is easily the most extraneous character in Smash, period. [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Verdana;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 19:54, 26 August 2017 (EDT)
#You're kidding right? Mewtwo is leagues above doc. <span style="font-family:Algerian;font-size:10pt;background:#000;border:outset #083 2px;padding:1px">'''[[User:Serpent King|<span style="color:#083">Serpent</span>]] [[File:SKSig.png|12px|link=]] [[User talk:Serpent King|<span style="color:#ed0">King</span>]]'''</span> 20:02, 26 August 2017 (EDT)
#I personally found Mewtwo fairly fun to play in Melee (except for his stupid tail hurtbox :|), so I'll give the vote to him here. [[File:MetaKingSignature1.png]][[User talk:MetaKing|<span style="color: blue;">'''#20MK'''</span>]] [[User:MetaKing|<span style="color: navy;">'''MetaKing'''</span>]][[File:MetaKingSignature2.png]] 21:33, 26 August 2017 (EDT)
#Mewtwo gets my vote! Made its return in ''Smash 4'' after 14 years! [[User:Dragonfirebreath25|Dragonfirebreath25]] ([[User talk:Dragonfirebreath25|talk]]) 22:54, 26 August 2017 (EDT)
#Ah, a truly tragic tale to test a toneless tune. Mewtwo! A life borne of hate! Giovanni cloned the original Pokémon, Mew, into Mewtwo to be the ultimate warrior, and strong as it might be, its power was not its choice, nor was its existence. Mewtwo did not ask to be made, let alone into a machine of rage. Its struggle forced upon it, its only choice in its debut film is to learn to overcome its dictated genetics of violence, whereas we take any positive emotions and tendencies we can muster up for granted. It had to invent its own happiness, a task hardly accomplished, let alone possible, yet still eternally dreamt for. Worse yet, all we use it for in ''Super Smash Bros.'' is the sentence Giovanni condemned it to: to fight, to kill, to hurt, demanding that it relive its horrific life of terror every single match. We, as players, are no better than the father who cursed it with consciousness, simply by playing a game. What is there to say about it's opponent? He's a doctor? My word, that certainly is the harrowing story, and it by all definitions clearly and without doubt trounces upon Mewtwo's depression-wrought misery. [[User:Everyman Or Nobody?|Everyman Or Nobody?]] ([[User talk:Everyman Or Nobody?|talk]]) 23:14, 28 August 2017 (EDT)
# Smash 4 main, so easy pick. --[[User:Vinc420|Mr. Loser]] ([[User talk:Vinc420|talk]]) 21:26, 31 August 2017 (EDT)
#I don't exactly have a problem with Doc, but I hate how they're doing nothing with him in the decloning department. Plus, Mewtwo's my favorite Pokeman in general. [[User:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:Green; text-shadow: 0px 0px 3px green">'''Disaster'''</span> <span style="color:Blue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px blue">'''Flare'''</span>]] [[File:Disaster Flare signature image.png|20px]] ''[[User talk:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:SkyBlue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px skyblue">(talk)</span>]]'' 23:09, 1 September 2017 (EDT)
#I only like Dr. Mario in Smash because he's more fun to play in Smash 4 than the stale plumber, so Mewtwo is easily my go-to vote. It's somewhat like Ermac from Mortal Kombat's original timeline, an embodiment of the villain that turns into pure neutrality: it was created and enhanced by humans, but destroyed those who created it some time after<s> ,including Dr. Fuji's cloned daugher, Ambertwo</s>. Mewtwo was always confused on what its purpose was in the Pokémon world, but never gave up, never surrendered. Mewtwo wanted to show its power, and so it did, but also wanted to conquer the world. Eventually, the latter no longer happened, and it now traveled the world with its fellow clone friends to learn about the meaning of life, as well as to protect people in need. At first, I thought Mewtwo was a vague choice for a character in Melee, but as time passed, I grew to accept the character as one of, if not, my favorite Pokémon in general. I still use it in Smash as a secondary when I need to, and it is still one of the most interesting characters to play at a high level. In short, Mewtwo obliterates doctors (pun intended). --[[File:BeepYouSignature.png|40px]] [[User:Beep|<font color="Black">'''Beep'''</font>]] [[User talk:Beep|<font color="Black">'''(talk)'''</font>]] 14:03, 5 September 2017 (EDT)
#At least Mewtwo isn't an outright copy. (He is in his home series, but that's beside the point) [[User:Awesomelink234|Awes]]o[[User_talk:Awesomelink234|melink234]] Getting down to editing~ 17:55, 7 September 2017 (EDT)
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==[[Tomodachi Life]] vs. [[Find Mii]]==
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===Votes for ''Tomodachi Life''===
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#They're both trash stages, but Tomodachi Life wins by a speck. [[User:KirbysCrazyAppetite|Kirby's Crazy Appetite]] ~ [[File:KirbysCrazyAppetiteSig.png|50x20px]] 12:54, 26 August 2017 (EDT)
#I enjoyed playing ''Tomodachi Life'' more than I did ''Find Mii''. The stages are no different. [[File:AidanzapunkSig1.png|20px]][[User:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''Aidan'''</span>]], [[User talk:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''the Wandering Dragon Warrior'''</span>]][[File:AidanzapunkSig2.png|20px]] 19:14, 26 August 2017 (EDT)
#Sounds like a fun stage for me! Miis everywhere! [[User:Dragonfirebreath25|Dragonfirebreath25]] ([[User talk:Dragonfirebreath25|talk]]) 22:54, 26 August 2017 (EDT)
#I think this one is more fun, but will count this as a half vote because I like the game better. [[Special:Contributions/75.141.57.33|75.141.57.33]] 17:56, 30 August 2017 (EDT)
#Stage-wise and game-wise, I prefer Tomodachi Life. I've never been fond of Find Mii and its stage. Tomodachi's stage isn't much to behold, either, but I ''love'' the game. [[User:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:Green; text-shadow: 0px 0px 3px green">'''Disaster'''</span> <span style="color:Blue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px blue">'''Flare'''</span>]] [[File:Disaster Flare signature image.png|20px]] ''[[User talk:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:SkyBlue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px skyblue">(talk)</span>]]'' 23:09, 1 September 2017 (EDT)
#Much better design, and fun to peek into people's houses to see what they're doing. --[[File:BeepYouSignature.png|40px]] [[User:Beep|<font color="Black">'''Beep'''</font>]] [[User talk:Beep|<font color="Black">'''(talk)'''</font>]] 14:04, 5 September 2017 (EDT)
#No overpowered stage bosses here. [[User:Awesomelink234|Awes]]o[[User_talk:Awesomelink234|melink234]] Getting down to editing~ 17:55, 7 September 2017 (EDT)
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===Votes for ''Find Mii''===
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#The soundtrack for Find Mii is astonishingly good. [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Verdana;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 19:54, 26 August 2017 (EDT)
#It has a stage boss, that means it's automatically better. --[[User:Vinc420|Vinc]] ([[User talk:Vinc420|talk]]) 21:25, 31 August 2017 (EDT)
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==[[Codec Conversations]] vs. [[Palutena's Guidance]]==
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===Votes for ''Codec Conversations''===
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#just Luigi's codec [[User:KirbysCrazyAppetite|Kirby's Crazy Appetite]] ~ [[File:KirbysCrazyAppetiteSig.png|50x20px]] 12:54, 26 August 2017 (EDT)
#Mei Ling, Samus took her clothes off!! ''[[User:Alex Parpotta|<span style="color: blue;">'''Alex Parpotta'''</span>]] the [[User talk:Alex Parpotta|<span style="color: red;">'''flying lobster!'''</span>]]'' 13:00, 26 August 2017 (EDT)
#They called Meta Knight a narcissist... Like, WTF?! XD XD XD [[File:MetaKingSignature1.png]][[User talk:MetaKing|<span style="color: blue;">'''#20MK'''</span>]] [[User:MetaKing|<span style="color: navy;">'''MetaKing'''</span>]][[File:MetaKingSignature2.png]] 13:35, 26 August 2017 (EDT)
#The faux-seriousness of these juxtaposed against the Smash roster was pretty fun. [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Verdana;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 19:54, 26 August 2017 (EDT)
#Best one here! Snake and the ''Metal Gear Solid'' team chat about the ''Brawl'' roster here! My favorite codec is Mario. [[User:Dragonfirebreath25|Dragonfirebreath25]] ([[User talk:Dragonfirebreath25|talk]]) 22:54, 26 August 2017 (EDT)
#''Mei Ling, Samus took her clothes off!'' <span style="font-family:Algerian;font-size:10pt;background:#000;border:outset #083 2px;padding:1px">'''[[User:Serpent King|<span style="color:#083">Serpent</span>]] [[File:SKSig.png|12px|link=]] [[User talk:Serpent King|<span style="color:#ed0">King</span>]]'''</span> 01:58, 28 August 2017 (EDT)
#^ Pretty much what Serpent said, but I also just have more bias toward Snake than I do Pit and Palutena. Pit is okay, and I merely tolerate Palutena, but I've always loved Snake and still do. [[User:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:Green; text-shadow: 0px 0px 3px green">'''Disaster'''</span> <span style="color:Blue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px blue">'''Flare'''</span>]] [[File:Disaster Flare signature image.png|20px]] ''[[User talk:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:SkyBlue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px skyblue">(talk)</span>]]'' 23:09, 1 September 2017 (EDT)
#The codec conversations are an element of Smash not from a Nintendo character or series; likewise, its inclusion in ''Super Smash Bros. Brawl'' represents an increasingly relevant application of third-party themes, which I for one enjoy. [[User:Everyman Or Nobody?|Everyman Or Nobody?]] ([[User talk:Everyman Or Nobody?|talk]]) 19:53, 6 September 2017 (EDT)
#More serious than Palutena's Guidance. [[User:Awesomelink234|Awes]]o[[User_talk:Awesomelink234|melink234]] Getting down to editing~ 17:55, 7 September 2017 (EDT)
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===Votes for ''Palutena's Guidance''===
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#More Hilarious [[:User:ZeldaStarfoxfan2164|ZeldaStarfoxfan2164]] ([[User talk:ZeldaStarfoxfan2164|talk]]) is bad for me  14:44, 26 August 2017 (EDT) 
#I do enjoy some of the codecs, but Palutena's Guidance does the job much better. ''Uprising''{{'}}s constant dialogue strewn throughout the game was hilarious on its own, and this is certainly no different. [[File:AidanzapunkSig1.png|20px]][[User:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''Aidan'''</span>]], [[User talk:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''the Wandering Dragon Warrior'''</span>]][[File:AidanzapunkSig2.png|20px]] 19:14, 26 August 2017 (EDT)
# More deep than Codec. It's also with characters I know and like more. [[User:Skittles03|Skittles03, the scummy fox main]] ([[User talk:Skittles03|talk]]) 16:49, 30 August 2017 (EDT)
# See the votes above this one. --[[User:Vinc420|Vinc]] ([[User talk:Vinc420|talk]]) 21:25, 31 August 2017 (EDT)
#The conversation for Robin is the one thing that pushes this one above. [[Special:Contributions/75.141.57.33|75.141.57.33]] 17:22, 3 September 2017 (EDT)
#This was a very hard choice to make, if I'm being brutally honest. I grew up with Snake's Codec Conversations, and always found some of them hillarious (Snake, you know who that is? You're kidding, right? It's Mario.). I always showed interest towards Metal Gear because of its interesting gameplay, too, although I never played a single game of it. And I also liked Snake back in Brawl so, by default, I was sad he was removed in SSB4. But, the thing is, I looooved Kid Icarus Uprising, how fun the banters were, every character's personality (except Thanatos, but tbh who likes him) and design, the most notable example being Palutena, which shouldn't come off as a surprise to these people. It all makes for a perfect mix of a challenging game that was still very fun to play. I know most of the people here have mixed opinions on Palu, and that some also have expressed a distaste towards the game's overly annoying characters, like Pit and Viridi (two of which I also like), but I still love the game and the conversations nonetheless. Like I said, both of the options are so good it was hard to pick one, but in the end, this one wins by arguably the smallest of margins. --[[File:BeepYouSignature.png|40px]] [[User:Beep|<font color="Black">'''Beep'''</font>]] [[User talk:Beep|<font color="Black">'''(talk)'''</font>]] 14:17, 5 September 2017 (EDT)
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==[[Final Cutter]] vs. [[Aether]]==
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===Votes for ''Final Cutter''===
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#self-explanatory vote [[User:KirbysCrazyAppetite|Kirby's Crazy Appetite]] ~ [[File:KirbysCrazyAppetiteSig.png|50x20px]] 12:54, 26 August 2017 (EDT)
#I'm a Kirby Series bias to be honest XD, so this is another auto-vote from me.  [[File:MetaKingSignature1.png]][[User talk:MetaKing|<span style="color: blue;">'''#20MK'''</span>]] [[User:MetaKing|<span style="color: navy;">'''MetaKing'''</span>]][[File:MetaKingSignature2.png]] 13:32, 26 August 2017 (EDT)
#I'm a Kirby main. Also it makes more sense for Kirby to have such a move since he has more jumps and I kept SDing with Ike. [[:User:ZeldaStarfoxfan2164|ZeldaStarfoxfan2164]] ([[User talk:ZeldaStarfoxfan2164|talk]]) is bad for me  14:44, 26 August 2017 (EDT)
# As a fan of Kirby, I enjoy this move pretty well for him. [[User:Dragonfirebreath25|Dragonfirebreath25]] ([[User talk:Dragonfirebreath25|talk]]) 22:54, 26 August 2017 (EDT)
# I use Kirby more, so I have more experience with the move. Also it has a wave projectile. --[[User:Vinc420|Vinc]] ([[User talk:Vinc420|talk]]) 21:25, 31 August 2017 (EDT)
#The projectile following landing can be surprisingly useful, something that Ike's Aether can not offer. [[User:Everyman Or Nobody?|Everyman Or Nobody?]] ([[User talk:Everyman Or Nobody?|talk]]) 19:59, 6 September 2017 (EDT)
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===Votes for ''Aether''===
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#Joke's on you, [http://kenshin.wikia.com/wiki/Hiten_Mitsurugi-ry%C5%AB#Techniques Ryūtsuisen] is better than both of them. [[File:AidanzapunkSig1.png|20px]][[User:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''Aidan'''</span>]], [[User talk:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''the Wandering Dragon Warrior'''</span>]][[File:AidanzapunkSig2.png|20px]] 19:14, 26 August 2017 (EDT)
#Sword > Cutter anyway. [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Verdana;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 19:54, 26 August 2017 (EDT)
#What Miles said. <span style="font-family:Algerian;font-size:10pt;background:#000;border:outset #083 2px;padding:1px">'''[[User:Serpent King|<span style="color:#083">Serpent</span>]] [[File:SKSig.png|12px|link=]] [[User talk:Serpent King|<span style="color:#ed0">King</span>]]'''</span> 01:58, 28 August 2017 (EDT)
#Hits more than Cutter. Also aether is used again in a stronger form for Ike's final smash. [[Special:Contributions/75.141.57.33|75.141.57.33]] 17:58, 30 August 2017 (EDT)
#Ike main here. [[User:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:Green; text-shadow: 0px 0px 3px green">'''Disaster'''</span> <span style="color:Blue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px blue">'''Flare'''</span>]] [[File:Disaster Flare signature image.png|20px]] ''[[User talk:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:SkyBlue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px skyblue">(talk)</span>]]'' 23:09, 1 September 2017 (EDT)
#What SK and Miles said, also insert Ike memes here, etc, etc, etc. --[[File:BeepYouSignature.png|40px]] [[User:Beep|<font color="Black">'''Beep'''</font>]] [[User talk:Beep|<font color="Black">'''(talk)'''</font>]] 14:18, 5 September 2017 (EDT)
#Final Cutter doesn't have super armor. [[User:Awesomelink234|Awes]]o[[User_talk:Awesomelink234|melink234]] Getting down to editing~ 17:55, 7 September 2017 (EDT)
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==[[DK Rap]] vs. [[Ashley's Song]]==
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|colspan="2" style="background:#dfdfdf; text-align:center" valign="top"|<font size=5>'''Winner!!'''</font><br><font size=3>'''''DK Rap'''''</font><br><center><youtube width=225px height=225px>xk8kg7eTdv8</youtube></center><br><font size=3>''9 to 2''</font><br>
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===Votes for ''DK Rap''===
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#HE [[User:KirbysCrazyAppetite|Kirby's Crazy Appetite]] ~ [[File:KirbysCrazyAppetiteSig.png|50x20px]] 12:54, 26 August 2017 (EDT)
#At least this one is tolerable. I actually hate Ashley's song. It's one of those terrible ones that happen to be just so stupidly catchy that you end up with it in your head for the rest of the day. <span style="font-family:Algerian;font-size:10pt;background:#000;border:outset #083 2px;padding:1px">'''[[User:Serpent King|<span style="color:#083">Serpent</span>]] [[File:SKSig.png|12px|link=]] [[User talk:Serpent King|<span style="color:#ed0">King</span>]]'''</span> 01:58, 28 August 2017 (EDT)
#His coconut guns, can fire in spurts if he shoots ya, it's gonna hurt! [[User:Skittles03|Skittles03, the scummy fox main]] ([[User talk:Skittles03|talk]]) 16:48, 30 August 2017 (EDT)
# Read the post above mine. --[[User:Vinc420|Vinc]] ([[User talk:Vinc420|talk]]) 21:25, 31 August 2017 (EDT)
#Memes [[User:Searingjet|Searingjet]] ([[User talk:Searingjet|talk]])
#Difficult decision, but personally, I'm more fond toward DK Rap than I am Ashley's Song, even if I like both. One could say the DK64 version is better, but honestly, I've always preferred the Smash version. Not only was that the first version I was introduced to, but I also think it just aged better overall. [[User:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:Green; text-shadow: 0px 0px 3px green">'''Disaster'''</span> <span style="color:Blue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px blue">'''Flare'''</span>]] [[File:Disaster Flare signature image.png|20px]] ''[[User talk:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:SkyBlue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px skyblue">(talk)</span>]]'' 23:09, 1 September 2017 (EDT)
#So they're finally here, performing for you. If you know the words, you can join in too. Put your hands together, if you want to clap. As we take you through this monkey rap. This song is all about DK and the rest of the crew! [[User:Dragonfirebreath25|Dragonfirebreath25]] ([[User talk:Dragonfirebreath25|talk]]) 22:49, 2 September 2017 (EDT)
#(insert the entire song's lyrics here) --[[File:BeepYouSignature.png|40px]] [[User:Beep|<font color="Black">'''Beep'''</font>]] [[User talk:Beep|<font color="Black">'''(talk)'''</font>]] 14:19, 5 September 2017 (EDT)
#Does this even need to be said? In case it does, Ashley's song is way more annoying than this, so much that I disabled it on Gamer. [[User:Awesomelink234|Awes]]o[[User_talk:Awesomelink234|melink234]] Getting down to editing~ 17:55, 7 September 2017 (EDT)
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===Votes for ''Ashley's Song''===
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#I'm only voting on Ashley's Song here because the DK Rap in Smash is less admirable than the original one from ''DK64''. Ashley's Song is the other way around (and even has {{SSB4MusicLink|WarioWare|Ashley's Song (JP) Ver. 2|an alternate (and objectively better) version}} as well). [[File:AidanzapunkSig1.png|20px]][[User:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''Aidan'''</span>]], [[User talk:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''the Wandering Dragon Warrior'''</span>]][[File:AidanzapunkSig2.png|20px]] 19:14, 26 August 2017 (EDT)
#Eh, both are overdone, but I prefer WarioWare to DK64 in general. [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Verdana;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 19:54, 26 August 2017 (EDT)
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