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Ladies and gentlemen, welcome, editors and users, to the '''[[SmashWiki:Smash Arena|Smash Arena]]'''! Each week (or possibly less often, if the [[SW:SSS|wiki's status]] is high or there's not much voter traffic) this forum hosts a tussle between two (or  sometimes three!) characters, items, stages or anything else from the [[Super Smash Bros. (series)|''Super Smash Bros.'' series]]! The winner gets, well, nothing. It's more of a poll but functionally, this is a popularity contest. You may vote for your favorite or who you think would win in a competition between the two combatants that round. No, you don't have to vote for the character with strength & power, or the stage considered more "fair", or the combatant with the most fans - just vote if you are a total fanboy of the participant. So what are you waiting for? Get voting!
Ladies and gentlemen, welcome, editors and users, to the '''[[SmashWiki:Smash Arena|Smash Arena]]'''! Each week (or possibly less often, if the [[SW:SSS|wiki's status]] is Yellow or above) this forum hosts a tussle between two characters, items, stages or anything else from the [[Super Smash Bros. (series)|''Super Smash Bros.'' series]]! The winner gets, well, nothing. It's more of a poll but functionally, this is a popularity contest. You may vote for your favorite or who you think would win in a competition between the two combatants that round. No, you don't have to vote for the character with strength & power, or the stage considered more "fair", or the combatant with the most fans - just vote if you are a total fanboy of the participant. So what are you waiting for? Get voting!


==The Rules==
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Above all, remember that '''voting in the Smash Arena is a privilege, not a right'''. In the vein of [[SW:NOT|what SmashWiki is not]], you are expected to at least attempt reasonable contributions to the wiki if you wish to retain your privilege to participate.
Above all, remember that '''voting in the Smash Arena is a privilege, not a right'''. In the vein of [[SW:NOT|what SmashWiki is not]], you are expected to at least attempt reasonable contributions to the wiki if you wish to retain your privilege to participate.


==Round 257: [[Mushroom Kingdom II]] vs. [[Magicant]]==
==Round 238: [[Tingle]] vs. [[Isabelle]]==
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|colspan="2" style="background:#dfdfdf; text-align:center" valign="top"|<font size=5>'''Winner!!'''</font><br><font size=3>'''''Magicant'''''</font><br>[[Image:SSB4 Magicant.jpg|225x225px|center]]<br><font size=3>''45 to 48''</font><br>
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===Votes for ''Mushroom Kingdom II''===
===Votes for ''Tingle''===
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:<s>1. Wow, who'd have thought that I would ever vote for a Melee stage over a Smash 4 stage? Unfortunately for Magicant, I just find the stage to be ugly and weird looking. It probably doesn't help that it runs on the 3DS but it doesn't look appealing to me in the slightest. On the other hand who can't love the design of a stage inspired by the classic Super Mario Bros. NES series itself? ''[[User:Trainer Alex|<span style="color: blue;">'''Alex'''</span>]] the [[User talk:Trainer Alex|<span style="color: red;">'''Jigglypuff trainer'''</span>]]'' 10:48, 2 June 2018 (EDT)</s>
#Tingle changes the outcome of a match to a much more impactful extent than does Isabelle. In the world of ''Super Smash Bros.'', it's kill or be killed. A meager fruit from Isabelle will not harm your opponent; a Hammer or Golden Hammer from Tingle might just provide that bone-breaking force necessary to shatter your opponents' spirits, not to mention their skulls. The question that binds this Smash Arena round is really this: which do you value more, gaining health for yourself or making others lose health? I, personally, believe that you can't win if you don't make others lose. [[User:Everyman Or Nobody?|Everyman Or Nobody?]] ([[User talk:Everyman Or Nobody?|talk]]) 00:34, 6 December 2015 (EST)
#I ''hate'' Magicant with a passion. Going with the obvious better option. A classic too. [[User:KirbysCrazyAppetite|Kirby's Crazy Appetite]] ~ [[File:KirbysCrazyAppetiteSig.png|50x20px]] 12:48, 2 June 2018 (EDT)
#Tingle Tingle Kallopa([[User:Psychninja14|Psychninja14]] ([[User talk:Psychninja14|talk]]) 01:24, 6 December 2015 (EST))
#Mushroom Kingdom II = ''Super Mario Bros. 2''! [[User:Dragonfirebreath25|Dragonfirebreath25]] ([[User talk:Dragonfirebreath25|talk]]) 12:52, 2 June 2018 (EDT)
#Tingle has just the best personality out of any Zelda character, and he's just awesome. Tingle, Tingle, Kuloo-Limpah! ([[User:FlawedAI|FlawedAI]])
#[[:User:ZeldaStarfoxfan2164|ZeldaStarfoxfan2164]] ([[User talk:ZeldaStarfoxfan2164|talk]]) is a never lover boy  20:56, 2 June 2018 (EDT)
#<s>'''Koolim..PA!''' I love all the stuff he does. It's hilarious. [[File:PikachuMS.png|20px]] [[User:ThePikaPlayer|<span style="color: gold;">'''Pika,'''</span>]] [[User Talk:ThePikaPlayer|<span style="color: gray;">'''Chilly!'''</span>]] 09:24, 6 December 2015 (EST)</s>
#The only correct answer is Mushroom Kingdom II. [[User:Pokebub|Pokebub]] ([[User talk:Pokebub|talk]]) 01:36, 4 June 2018 (EDT)
#--[[Special:Contributions/75.156.151.217|75.156.151.217]] 16:51, 6 December 2015 (EST)
#Magicant is just weird. [[User:Awesomelink234|<span style="font-size:10pt;background:#00FF20;border:outset #083 2px;padding:1px 3px;color:#050DF7">Awesomelink234, the Super Cool Sonic Fan</span>]] [[User talk:Awesomelink234|Leave a message if needed]] 08:41, 4 June 2018 (EDT)
#Isabelle throws fruit. That's all. Tingle can give you Hammers, Superspicy Curry, or Banana Peels, zoom the camera in on one player, or fly away in a balloon. And, disregarding the great amount of variety here, who wants a dog that JINGLES LIKE MONEY? That's either extremely creepy or extremely rude, neither of which are that great in my mind. [[User:AmoongussForLife|AmoongussForLife]] ([[User talk:AmoongussForLife|talk]]) 19:27, 6 December 2015 (EST)
#This one's pretty close because I like trolling people with Flying Man, but this was my favorite Melee stage so nostalgia beats trolling. [[User:TheNuttyOne|TheNuttyOne]] 14:41, 7 June 2018 (EDT)
#Most people hate Tingle, but I've always found him kinda funny. #TingleForSSB5 <span style="font-family:AR JULIAN; font-size:12pt">[[User:ChuckNorris24|<span style="color:red">Chuck</span>]][[User talk:ChuckNorris24|<span style="color:green">Norris</span>]]</span>[[File:24.png|23px]]  17:12, 22 December 2015 (EST)
#Magicent's a cool stage, but I have no real relation with the ''Earthbound'' series. ''Super Mario Bros. 2'' is a good game. But speaking in terms of stages, Mushroom Kingdom II has more room to move around, no assist characters that will gang up on you (Birdo's only slightly annoying), and I like the Pidget. [[User:Alex95|Alex95]] ([[User talk:Alex95|talk]]) 21:07, 8 June 2018 (EDT)
#Isabelle is lame. She never did anything for you asides sit behind a counter. Tingle, on the other hand, sells you maps and deciphers them for you. That's... pretty useful, actually.--[[User:BaconMaster331|BaconMaster331]] ([[User talk:BaconMaster331|talk]]) 14:10, 31 December 2015 (EST)
#I'm a sucker for nostalgia, plus I like this stage better anyway, so... yeah. <span style="font-family:Corbel; font-size:12pt">[[User:Smash Master|<span style="color:darkblue">'''Smash''']] [[User talk:Smash Master|<span style="color:darkgreen">'''Master'''</span>]]</span></span> 15:22, 9 June 2018 (EDT)
#When it comes to assist trophies, I like the element of unpredictability. [[User:FirstaLasto|<font color="pink">♡</font>'''Firsta'''Lasto<font color="pink"></font>]] 04:56, 21 January 2016 (EST)
#I like Melee... and Mario... [[Special:Contributions/54.175.143.180|54.175.143.180]] 21:39, 30 June 2018 (EDT)
#If you're going to have assist trophies at all, it's not because you're looking for something predictable, or sane, or any of that. It's because you're looking for something like Tingle. [[Special:Contributions/24.211.128.26|24.211.128.26]] 20:36, 13 March 2016 (EDT)
#It's very close for me,  but I gotta go with MKII. it's such a throwback, I gotta go for it. Sorry Magicant. [[User:Dakota.952|Dakota.952]] [[User talk:Dakota.952]] 17:00, 8 July 2018 (EDT)
#Tingle is cool. [[Special:Contributions/64.92.137.42|64.92.137.42]] 19:53, 14 March 2016 (EDT)
#For me it's either a game I have never played or a series I don't care about. That and I'm a big Mario fan. [[User:CaptainGamer|Captain Gamer]] ([[User talk:CaptainGamer|talk]]) 13:06, 16 July 2018 (EDT)
#mario bros. 2 is my choice for best nes game and this level captures my first experiences with the game [[User:XVI|XVI]] ([[User talk:XVI|talk]]) 18:33, 20 July 2018 (EDT)
#Even though I am a fan of Magicant because of the universe its in, Mushroom Kingdom II is just... better. In every way. [[User:Kbimbatti22|Kbimbatti22]] ([[User talk:Kbimbatti22|talk]]) 13:22, 25 July 2018 (EDT)l
#I like Magicant because it seems weird, BUT in this matchup Mushroom Kingdom II is better. It's more refined, stable and easier to play. Long live Ultimate. [[User:Sparkwave|Sparkwave]] ([[User talk:Sparkwave|talk]]) 12:06, 17 August 2018 (EDT)
#I don't know what to say [[User:Sammybambam11|Sammybambam11]] ([[User talk:Sammybambam11|talk]]) 14:25, 10 August 2018 (EDT)
#Playing on Mario stages in Smash for me is an absolute treat, plus the retro-sounding music gives off so much nostalgia. Sorry Magicant, you're cool, but not as good as one of Mr. Video Game's home stages! [[File:SSB4DarkSonicHead.png|17px|link=User:SonicSpeed48]][[User talk:SonicSpeed48|<font color="navyblue">''Speed'''''48'''</font>]] 20:40, 20 August 2018 (EDT)
#I think Mushroom Kingdom II is a much bigger throwback to the classics. Sorry Magicant! [[User talk:RetroPika|<font color="yellow">RetroPika</font>]][[File:PikachuHeadSSB.png|17px]] 03:29, 8 September 2018 (EDT)
#Mushroom kingdom is superior. Sorry, earthbound fans! [[User:NicoNiconii|NicoNiconii]] ([[User talk:NicoNiconii|talk]]) 11:16, 2 November 2018 (EDT) NicoNiconii, November 2, 2018, 11:16 AM EST
#I've never played Earthbound so I'll cast my vote here. --[[Special:Contributions/203.128.94.27|203.128.94.27]] 10:29, 3 November 2018 (EDT)
#I am a HUGE Mario fan, and Magicant is very... odd. Go Mushroom Kingdom! Also, the music rocks:)[[User:Super Eli|Super Eli]] ([[User talk:Super Eli|talk]]) 04:51, 6 November 2018 (EST)
#--[[Special:Contributions/14.199.84.205|14.199.84.205]] 09:47, 10 November 2018 (EST)
#Here I am. [[User:UltimateWoomy|UltimateWoomy]] ([[User talk:UltimateWoomy|talk]]) 22:55, 11 November 2018 (EST)
#[[Super Mario Bros. 2]] is quite underrated so this stage is pretty cool for representing  that game, plus it’s coming back to Ultimate.[[Magicant]]’s a pretty good stage too [[Special:Contributions/174.55.24.64|174.55.24.64]] 13:44, 15 November 2018 (EST)
#I MADE UP MY MIND! [[User:BESTIDIOTEVER|BESTIDIOTEVER]] ([[User talk: BESTIDIOTEVER|talk]]) 22:43, 25 November 2018 (EST)
#Magican't win! [[User:RK50||RK50]] ([[User talk: RK50|talk]]) 21:16, 15 December 2018 (EST)
#It's the obvious choice to go with the face of gaming's sequel! Johnson T. Shy Guy 17:36, 19 December (EDT)
#The song has been stuck in my head all day, so I can't not vote this. [[Special:Contributions/63.224.129.183|63.224.129.183]] 15:34, 23 January 2019 (EST)
#The hazards and stuff are much more creative. Are there even any in Magicant? [[Special:Contributions/KingKRool26|KingKRool26]] 8:00, 14 February 2019 (EST)
#I vote for Mushroom Kingdom II becuase overall I think it looks better as a stage then Magicant. 8:56 AM 18 February 2019 (CST)
#Mushroom Kingdom II is overall a much better stage to fight on, despite the fact it's a walk-off stage. And there's no Flying Man. 2:43 PM, 4 March 2019 (EST)
#I like Mario. And Magicant sounds too much like Magic can't. [[Special:Contributions/50.43.56.91|50.43.56.91]] 19:30, April 11, 2019 (EDT)
#''A-sla-a-sla-a-sla-tte-ry...'' When I was young, not only did I make up the aforementioned lyrics for the ''SMB2'' theme's opening notes, but I wrote an unintentional self-insert fanfic based on ''SMB2''. <span style="font-family:Mario Party 2/3 Textbox">[[User:RickTommy|<span style="color:red">Rick</span>]][[User talk:RickTommy|<span style="color:green">Tommy</span>]]</span> 01:24, April 25, 2019 (EDT)
#I love retro stages, Magicant is camping galore as well, soooooo[[User:Azantix|Azantix]] ([[User talk:Azantix|talk]]) 11:52, June 24, 2019 (EDT)
#Magicant made a level 9 Luigi look dumb.[[User:Snorlax TheGreat|Snorlax TheGreat]] ([[User talk:Snorlax TheGreat|talk]]) 08:15, July 5, 2019 (EDT)
#--[[User:Doggieboy9|Doggieboy9]] ([[User talk:Doggieboy9|talk]]) 13:08, July 5, 2019 (EDT)
#I prefer beating up Birdo over getting beat up by Chicken Man[[Special:Contributions/198.98.24.19|198.98.24.19]] 19:23, September 3, 2019 (EDT)
#I prefer Mushroom Kingdom II because I am a Mario Fan.[[User:Crocodile Dippy 2|Crocodile Dippy 2]] ([[User talk:Crocodile Dippy 2|talk]]) 14:14, September 11, 2019 (EDT)
#Jesus this hasn't been updated in a while...but yeah Magicant sucks. '''Your Senpai,''' [[User:Iron Warrior|<span style="color: red;">'''Iron'''</span>]] [[User talk:Iron Warrior|<span style="color: cyan;">'''Warrior'''</span>]] 12:13, November 20, 2019 (EST)
#everything is better than flying man lol[[User:Stelgard M|Stelgard M]] ([[User talk:Stelgard M|talk]]) 17:24, December 25, 2019 (EST)
#Clearly, Flying Man is way to OP and unfair for the others when someone grabs him. I destroyed someone much better than me using him. They should trash either him or the stage. As for Mushroom Kingdom II, I have nothing against it. [[User:Mario Kart 7 Rules|Mario Kart 7 Rules]] ([[User talk:Mario Kart 7 Rules|talk]]) 12:37, March 2, 2020 (EST)


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#I’m just a sucker for Mario stages. Besides, who doens’t love the feeling of extreme nostalgia. <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:MarioFighter64|MarioFighter64]] ([[User talk:MarioFighter64|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/MarioFighter64|contribs]]) 20:02, 20 August 2018 (EDT)</small>
# I just love that while Isabelle only has 1 use (which is helpful) but Tingle has 4 uses in which 3 are helpful: he can zoom the cam in on a player so the others won't see a thing, he can summon banana peels that leaves other constantly tripping(so they can't attack) and he can summon hammers to squash the opponents! Tingle Tingle Koloo Limpa! <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:92.111.78.26|92.111.78.26]] ([[User talk:92.111.78.26|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/92.111.78.26|contribs]]) 02:56, 13 January 2016 (EST)</small>
#I feel that it looks a lot cleaner than Magicant. It looks better. <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:Cassinator|Cassinator]] ([[User talk:Cassinator|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Cassinator|contribs]]) 20:55, 10 December 2018 (EST)</small>
#MKII FTW! <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:180.191.158.100|180.191.158.100]] ([[User talk:180.191.158.100|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/180.191.158.100|contribs]]) 23:54, 17 December 2018 (EST)</small>
# Birdo is a better trophy than Flying Man in my opinion. <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:BowserIsBroken|BowserIsBroken]] ([[User talk:BowserIsBroken|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/BowserIsBroken]]) 18:58, 21 February 2019 (EST) </small>
#i love this stage, I think it's a very interesting idea, but mostly, I just don't like the flying man from magicant.[[User:SpiritSquirtle|SpiritSquirtle]] ([[User talk:SpiritSquirtle|talk]]) 18:36, September 22, 2019 (EDT)
#MushroomKingdom Because I'ts One Of My Favorite Battle Stages, But I Have Respects To Magicant. <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:Super Kirby X|Super Kirby X]] ([[User talk:Super Kirby X|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Super Kirby X|contribs]]) 1:00 29, September 24</small>
#Mario is my childhood. I also have never heard of magicant. <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:64.90.137.2|64.90.137.2]] ([[User talk:64.90.137.2|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/64.90.137.2|contribs]]) 14:26, October 30, 2019</small>
#Couldn't care less about the other one. --[[User:lucina-is-better-than-marth]] <!--Not signed properly-->
#I like melee better, so Mushroom Kingdom 2 for me. [[Special:Contributions/80.155.164.74|80.155.164.74]] 04:50, September 24, 2019 (EDT) <!--Improper formatting (no #'s)-->
#I don't like this stage that much but I REALLY don't like Magicant so this one gets my vote. -[[User:Chiruria|'''''Chiruria!''''']] 12:52, February 21, 2020 (EST)
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#Better music, better environment, and a better stage to fight on, honestly. [[User:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''Aidan'''</span>]], [[User talk:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''the College-Bound Rurouni'''</span>]] 11:58, 2 June 2018 (EDT)
#She gets my vote for being adorable and helpful. [[User:Berrenta|Berrenta]] ([[User talk:Berrenta|talk]]) 00:30, 6 December 2015 (EST)
#[[Special:Contributions/23.17.208.28|23.17.208.28]] 00:59, 4 June 2018 (EDT)
#She actually heals the player; unlike Tingle who makes you lose by spawning hammers which the opponents would most likely get. [[:User:ZeldaStarfoxfan2164|ZeldaStarfoxfan2164]] ([[User talk:ZeldaStarfoxfan2164|talk]]) is a never lover boy  00:59, 6 December 2015 (EST)
#Magicant is beautiful and way better looking --[[User:Myth|<font color="orange">'''Myth'''</font>]] [[File:Myth Kirby.png|19px|link=User talk:Myth]] 13:53, 24 June 2018 (EDT)
#Isabelle is cute, and very useful when at high percentage. [[file:INoMedssig.png|20px]] <font face="cursive">[[User:INoMed|<font color="red">'''INoMed'''</font>]] <sup>'''''[[User talk:INoMed|<font color="red">(Talk • </font>]] [[User:INoMed/Contribs|<font color="red">Contribs)</font>]]'''''</sup></font> 05:33, 6 December 2015 (EST)
#I hate Magicant because whoever gets the Flying Man is pretty much guaranteed a win unless they SD several times. However I'm giving it a vote out of Pity, because I like Earthbound, and because I absolutely despise Mushroom Kingdom II. [[Special:Contributions/72.133.91.93|72.133.91.93]] 09:32, 6 June 2018 (EDT)YoshisaurusThe9th
#I see it as adorable vs. creepy, helpful vs. harmful. Yes, Tingle can actually damage your opponents, but some of his effects may hinder you too. Isabelle is basically always helping the summoner. And she's not creepy. (At least, not Tingle-level creepy.) <small>---Preceding unsigned comment added by [[Special:MyPage|<font color="red">SANTY</font> <font color="green">CLAWS</font>]]! Or maybe [[User:DatNuttyKid|DatNuttyKid]].</small> 07:11, 6 December 2015 (EST)
#The heck is wrong with y'all. MK2 is beat out in pretty much every department by Magicant. [[File:RagnarokSignature.png|20px|link=]] [[User:Ragnarok320|<span style="color: red;">'''Ragnarok320, The Toa of Fire''']]</span> [[User talk:Ragnarok320|<span style="color: black;">'''(talk)'''</span>]] 18:48, 5 July 2018 (EDT)
# gets my vote because when i get tingle he never does anything helpful to me [[User:Nintendofan1653|<font color="red">'''Nintendofan1653'''</font>]] ''([[User talk:Nintendofan1653#top|<font color="blue">talk</font>]])'' 07:50, 6 December 2015 (EST)
#Magicant looks great, and will likely look even better in Ultimate. MKII is fine, but not nearly as good or interesting as Magicant. [[User:Kirbitzein|Kirbitzein]] ([[User talk:Kirbitzein|talk]]) 01:41, 8 July 2018 (EDT)
#Tingle isn't always exactly helpful, so... [[File:Nyargleblargle.png|16px]][[User: Nyargleblargle|<span style="color:LawnGreen">'''Nyargle</span>]][[User talk:Nyargleblargle|<span style="color: orange;">'''blargle'''</span>]] ([[Special:Contributions/Nyargleblargle|Contribs]]) 10:17, 6 December 2015 (EST)
#Flying Man is more helpful when it comes to KOing opponents than Birdo's eggs. [[User:Warriorking98|Warriorking98]] 22:26, 14 July 2019 (EDT)
# reasons. [[User:Elitemagikarp|Elitemagikarp]] ([[User talk:Elitemagikarp|talk]]) 08:24, 8 January 2016 (EST)
#I like this stage a lot. --[[Special:Contributions/142.229.115.125|142.229.115.125]] 16:41, 23 July 2018 (EDT)
#At least Isabelle is helpful EVERY time you summon her. Also, in Wind Waker, I found Tingle to be as obnoxious as Kiddy Kong. --[[User:MeatBall104|<span style="color: red">'''''Meat'''''</span>]][[User talk:MeatBall104|<span style="color: orange">'''''Ball'''''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/MeatBall104|<span style="color:Gold">'''''104'''''</span>]] [[File:MB104Pic2.jpg|20px]] 11:33, 6 December 2015 (EST)
#I've never been a huge fan of retro stages. However, I am a huge fan of taking old, retro settings from games and remaking them in higher quality, and Magicant is a perfect candidate for this. It is aesthetically unique compared to almost every stage in smash with it's heavy amount of pink, and I love all of the Earthbound references. I like most of the hazards on this stage, but I understand that the flying men can be quite annoying. I can't wait to play on this stage in Ultimate, it's already looking stunning. [[User:Mudmag|Mudmag]] ([[User talk:Mudmag|talk]])
#I don't think I have experienced Isabelle as an assist trophy yet because I don't play with items but Tingle isn't helped by the fact that [http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/AmericansHateTingle he isn't so well received by the western society] (if any of you find the following link offensive, you can remove it) so I guess Isabelle gets my vote. [[User:Dots|<font color="red">'''D'''</font><font color="green">'''o'''</font><font color="blue">'''t'''</font><font color="purple">'''s'''</font>]] ([[User talk:Dots|talk]]) [[File:Mega Man X SNES sprite.png|19px]] The Sleepy 14:07, 6 December 2015 (EST)
#It is so beautiful, this has good music and it is so enjoyable, and this is very rememorable to me, but the most fun part of this stage is the Flying Men. [[User:Andreepika11233|Andreepika11233]] ([[User talk:Andreepika11233|talk]]) 19:32, 9 August 2018 (EDT)
#Because she actually helps me on the field. [[Special:Contributions/75.141.57.33|75.141.57.33]] 14:54, 6 December 2015 (EST)
#A second, in my opinion poor attempt at constructing a good Mushroom Kingdom stage vs a beautiful, nostalgic stage from an equally great game. Magicant's an easy choice for me. [[User:SugarCookie420|SugarCookie420]] ([[User talk:SugarCookie420|talk]]) 08:43, 23 August 2018 (EDT)
#Is actually helpful and isn't creepy [[Special:Contributions/180.95.41.149|180.95.41.149]] 20:06, 6 December 2015 (EST)
#Honestly, I haven't played on the SMB2 stage before. However, I HAVE played on this stage multiple times and I love the brightly colored, wacky style of it and the nice calm music that plays. Plus, the Flying Men sprites are cool! [[User:Crazy456Rhino|Crazy456Rhino]] ([[User talk:Crazy456Rhino|talk]]) 12:13, 7 September 2018 (EDT)
#There are many, many reasons why I vote Isabelle over Tingle. For starters, Isabelle's cute, Tingle is ugly and gives you that 'kill it with fire' reaction. Another thing, Isabelle's helpful, both in Smash and in Animal Crossing. All Tingle was ever good for was deciphering maps, but he always charges an insane amount of Rupees for his services. Also, he's enslaved his brothers, as seen in Wind Waker. Need I say more? [[User:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:Green; text-shadow: 0px 0px 3px green">'''Disaster'''</span> <span style="color:Blue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px blue">'''Flare'''</span>]] [[File:Disaster Flare signature image.png|20px]] ''[[User talk:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:SkyBlue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px skyblue">(talk)</span>]]'' 20:43, 6 December 2015 (EST)
#I've never actually played on Mushroom Kingdom II, but Magicant is a much better looking stage, I like its series much more, and the music is phenomenal. <b>[[User:john3637881|<span style="color: black;">John</span>]]</b> [[File:John3637881 Signature.png|20px]] <b>[[User talk:John3637881|<span style="color: red;">HUAH!</span>]]</b> 12:54, 7 September 2018 (EDT)
#Isabelle actually helps you in Animal Crossing. Tingle's just kinda...there... [[File:AidanzapunkChristmasSig.png|20px]][[User:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: red;">'''Aidan'''</span>]], [[User talk:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: green;">'''the Jolly Space Warrior'''</span>]][[File:AidanzapunkChristmasSig2.png|20px]] 09:59, 7 December 2015 (EST)
#Magicant wins for me hands down due to all the awesome references on this stage. Seeing the Dungeon Man and other parts of Mother 1+2 recreated in 3d is a real treat. [[User:RisingFalcon|RisingFalcon]] ([[User talk:RisingFalcon|talk]]) 19:26, 7 September 2018 (EDT)
# Two words: NOT. CREEPY! [[Special:Contributions/98.157.202.185|98.157.202.185]] 16:30, 8 December 2015 (EST)
#Prettier and chock full of cool references. [[User:TheDavsto|TheDavsto]] ([[User talk:TheDavsto|talk]]) 10:13, 11 September 2018 (EDT)
#Isabelle is my choice! She helps fighters and made her racing debut in ''{{s|mariowiki|Mario Kart 8}}''. That is why I love this character! [[User:Dragonfirebreath25|Dragonfirebreath25]] ([[User talk:Dragonfirebreath25|talk]]) 23:07, 8 December 2015 (EST)
#Since I played for 3ds way more, I definitely would prefer this beautiful stage. [[User:Super A|Super A]] ([[User talk:Super A|talk]]) 19:37, 24 September 2018 (EDT)
#[[Forum:Smash Arena/Archive 30#Waluigi vs. Tingle|Waluigi]], [[Forum:Smash Arena/Archive 42#Round 207: Tingle vs. Togepi|Togepi]], Isabelle - Tingle's Smash Arena foes get progressively more adorable [[User:ZatannaCobblepot|ZatannaCobblepot]] ([[User talk:ZatannaCobblepot|talk]]) 01:03, 10 December 2015 (EST)
#It has a better layout, great music, and gorgeous visuals (especially in Ultimate). The Flying Men may be annoying and I love the retro aesthetic of MK2 and similar stages, but Magicant's creative design makes it more memorable to me. [[User:AquaShield11097|<span style="color: blue;">Aqua Shield</span>]] ([[User talk:AquaShield11097|''<span style="color: darkblue;">talk</span>'']]) [[File:AquaShield.png|20px]] 22:43, 2 October 2018 (EDT)
#Simply because she's adorable and 100% helpful, unlike Mr. Oh-god-please-no. <small>It's not like this has already been mentioned 10 times...</small> [[User:Drill Blaster Mark 2|<font color="Brown">'''Drill Blaster'''</font> <font color="Pink">'''Mark'''</font> <font color="Silver">'''2'''</font>]] ''[[User talk:Drill Blaster Mark 2|<font color="Purple">(talk)</font>]]'' 12:37, 10 December 2015 (EST)
#Gorgeous map. Nice design. Will be even better in Ultimate with the option to take out the flying man. :P [[User:OctopusSandwich|OctopusSandwich]] 20:24, 14 October 2018 (EDT)
#'''C u t e .''' [[User:Nymbare|<span style="color:#00BFFF">Nymbare</span>]] [[User talk:Nymbare|<span style="color:#00BFFF">and his talk</span>]] 09:11, 11 December 2015 (EST)
#--[[Special:Contributions/180.249.127.254|180.249.127.254]] 04:36, 4 November 2018 (EST)
#Tingle's ugly.[[Special:Contributions/69.34.130.170|69.34.130.170]] 08:14, 13 December 2015 (EST)
#[[User:KoreanPJs|KoreanPJs]] ([[User talk:KoreanPJs|talk]]) 03:10, 7 November 2018 (EST)
#You know what? I think I like dogs more since I have recently discovered the meme '''doge'''. [[File:PikachuMS.png|20px]] [[User:ThePikaPlayer|<span style="color: gold;">'''Pika,'''</span>]] [[User Talk:ThePikaPlayer|<span style="color: gray;">'''Chilly!'''</span>]] 15:39, 22 December 2015 (EST)
#RPGs > Platformers. --[[Special:Contributions/113.212.233.12|113.212.233.12]] 06:18, 10 November 2018 (EST)
#Per everyone. [[User:Ganonmew|<span style="color: red;">'''Ganonmew'''</span>]], [[User talk:Ganonmew|<span style="color:green;">'''The Festive Evil Clone'''</span>]] 22:20, 26 December 2015 (EST)
#I only have Smash for 3ds and will be getting ultimate, and I know flying man ruins the stage, but with stage hazards off, this'll be a great stage. [[User:MimoMQ|MimoMQ]] ([[User talk:MimoMQ|talk]]) 19:43, 25 November 2018 (EST)
#Adorable. Is an animal. Is not creepy and ugly. Throws at you helpful items 100% of the time. And demonstrates emotion whenever who summoned it does an action. --[[File:BeepYouSignature.png|55px]] <font color="Green"> '''Happy Holidays from'''</font> [[User:BeepYou|<font color="Red">'''BeepYou'''</font>]] [[User talk:BeepYou|<font color="Red">''':]'''</font>]] 22:27, 26 December 2015 (EST)
#As a massive fan of the Mother series, this is a absolutely beautiful stage. Any mario stage (except for Ney Donk City Hall) is just to tell you how great the mario games are. (Fourside will always be the best mother stage). [[User:MasterDuelist_24|MasterDuelist_24]] ([[User talk:MasterDuelist_24|talk]]) 10:39, 31 January 2019 (EST)
#ADORABLE. Helps 100% of the time in-game. The opposition is downright creepy.-Green Machine
#The Flying Man ruins the stage but with stage hazards off its no biggie. Mushroom Kingdom II is too small to fight on. [[User:Tyler730|Tyler730]] ([[User talk:Tyler730|talk]]) 13:05, 2 February 2019 (EST)
#She's cute,dosen't leave the battle using balloons and her game wasn't banned in North America [[Special:Contributions/66.249.83.95|66.249.83.95]] 03:16, 3 January 2016 (EST)
#One of my favorites. --[[Special:Contributions/24.146.71.225|24.146.71.225]] 18:22, 4 February 2019 (EST)
#I don't like Tingle very much. He's like the Jar Jar Binks of the Zelda universe. --[[User:Fubaka|Fubaka]] ([[User talk:Fubaka|talk]]) 18:07, 19 Jan 2016 (EST)
#it looks so cool man.[[User:Iamthedude|Iamthedude]] ([[User talk:Iamthedude|talk]]) 21:55, 24 February 2019 (EST)
#She is a very very helpful assist trophy in [[Super Smash Bros. 4]]! [[User:The amazing owen|The amazing owen]] ([[User talk:The amazing owen|talk]]) 15:50, 3 February 2016 (EST)
#Magicant has godlike music and looks incredible. Makes me want an Earthbound Beginnings remake. --[[User:Plague von Karma|Plague von Karma]] ([[User talk:Plague von Karma|talk]]) 01:32, April 9, 2019 (EDT)
#She is very useful in smash bros healing you mid battle and very helpful (and one of my favourite characters) in animal crossing new leaf, I find tingle is never useful in any game I have played(except for deciphering maps in wind Waker) and I don't like the character. That is why I am voting for Isabelle. [[User:Piplup42Lol|Piplup42Lol]] ([[User talk:Piplup42Lol|talk]]) 15:26, 30 January 2016 (EST)
#Wow i never actually voted for this, anyway if this was exclusivly for the 3ds version of Magicant, then i'd say the other stage is better, but Magicant for ultimate looks so good to me it is almost no contest. Plus it isnt a walk-off <span style="background:#ea244a;border:outset #906 5px">'''[[User:Xtra3678|Xtra]][[File:Xtra_headpng.png|20px]][[User talk:Xtra3678|<span style="color:Lime">Talk</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Xtra3678|<span style="color: Gold">Edits</span>]]'''</span> 10:39, April 24, 2019 (EDT)
#Fruit [[User:KirbysCrazyAppetite|KirbysCrazyAppetite]] ([[User talk:KirbysCrazyAppetite|talk]]) 18:20, 30 January 2016 (EST)
#I like the stage in its entirety, and Mario stages are boring. Plus, Magicant is very cute. I like the pink. [[Special:Contributions/75.86.147.26|75.86.147.26]] 07:15, May 26, 2019 (EDT)
#I want to hug this dog [[User:Ryxis|Ryxis]] ([[User talk:Ryxis|talk]]) 14:36, 16 February 2016 (EST)
#I think this stage looks cooler than the other. That's pretty much all. [[User:JRJ007|JRJ007]] ([[User talk:JRJ007|talk]]) 19:39, June 2, 2019 (EDT)
#I think Tingle's uses are random and nearly each one has a flaw. Isabell throw fruit at you and you only need to touch it, so by running away you can get 50% restored.[[File:SwagmanSig1.png|20px]] [[User:Swagman|<span style="color: Green;">'''Swagman'''</span>]], [[User talk:Swagman|<span style="color: Dark blue;">'''the Green Swordsman'''</span>]] [[File:SwagmanSig2.png|20px]] 22:29, 27 February 2016 (EST)
#The stage is cute. Plus, the Flying Man is great. [[User:LucasRules|LucasRules]] ([[User talk:LucasRules|talk]]) 17:34, June 5, 2019 (EDT)
#I don't see what you Tingle fans like about him. He's a creepy man in his 30s that wears a green skin-tight suit because he thinks he's a fairy. In Majora's Mask he's a disappointment to his father and in Wind Waker he's a freaking slave owner. I'll go with the adorable dog assistant. [[User:AquaShield11097|<span style="color: blue;">Aqua Shield</span>]] ([[User talk:AquaShield11097|''<span style="color: darkblue;">talk</span>'']]) [[File:AquaShield.png|20px]] 13:17, 4 March 2016 (EST)
#This one's far more creative than MK2, and the Flying Men aren't too annoying when you learn how they function. --[[User:MeatBall104|<span style="color: red">'''''Meat'''''</span>]][[User talk:MeatBall104|<span style="color: orange">'''''Ball'''''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/MeatBall104|<span style="color:Gold">'''''104'''''</span>]] [[File:MB104Pic2.jpg|20px]] 09:45, June 6, 2019 (EDT)
#Aside from Tingle's overall creepiness, Isabelle's a dog. She automatically gets my vote.[[User:Mega Togekiss|<font color="Pink">''Mega Togekiss'''</font>]] [[User talk:Mega Togekiss|<font color="Pink"></font>]] 17:39, 16 March 2016 (EST)
#Surprised this is still going on. I love both stages but I'm giving my vote to Magicant. Overall better looking stage and Ultimate's hazerdless option make it better to have a serious fight on in my (as I call it since I never played in real tournaments) pseudo tournaments, and generally I want to support the EarthBound franchise.[[User: supatoad64|<span style="color:blue;"> '''SupaToad64''' </span>]] [[ Image: MK64ToadCSP.jpg|20px ]] 02:09, June 10, 2019 (EDT)
#Dawwww She's just too cute that is all [[User:Redja12|Redja12]] ([[User talk:Redja12|talk]]) 20:53, 2 April 2016 (EDT)
# Two words: Walk-offs. Maybe that's one word. Whatever's the case, stages where you can walk into the blast zone are a bane for competitive and casual players alike, whether you're getting back-throwed into oblivion, or a combo brings you a little bit to far to the left while, frustratingly, you were close to 0%. [[User:Mogo|Mogo]] ([[User talk:Mogo|talk]]) 08:02, 6/10/2019 (EST)
#Isabelle is so cute and she is useful comparared to Tingle [[User:Anto99|Anto99]] 13:44, 13 April 2016 (EST)
#FLYING MAN!!!![[User:DarkNight|DarkNight]] ([[User talk:DarkNight|talk]]) 11:06, June 15, 2019 (EDT)
#It looks like pink cotton candy!!!![[Special:Contributions/71.9.47.77|71.9.47.77]] 11:30, June 15, 2019 (EDT)
#Let's just say this stage really appeals to me personally. --[[Special:Contributions/73.220.19.65|73.220.19.65]] 16:45, June 19, 2019 (EDT)
#It doesn't have a walk-off section. Better for gameplay imo. [[Special:Contributions/156.57.171.73|156.57.171.73]] 15:06, August 20, 2019 (EDT)RSdabeast
#Great music, great callbacks to MOTHER 1, and just a great stage in general. It was a bit better in Smash 4 because the memories looked cooler and flying man was stronger, but Ultimate made it bigger so it's fine. Magicant best stage.[[Special:Contributions/12.148.188.195|12.148.188.195]] 19:31, October 2, 2019 (EDT)
#Music is better, has nice throwbacks to an amazing RPG. Except Flying Man. Flying Man can die. <span style="font-family: SimHei;color: orange;background-color: green;">LegendEH Is Very [[User talk:LegendEH|Handsome]]~</span> 11:22, November 22, 2019 (EST)
#I hate walk offs. they make me sad. [[User:CMWAidanx|CMWAidanx? Yikes.]] ([[User talk:CMWAidanx|talk]]) 16:42, December 2, 2019 (EST) 16:41 EST, 12/2/2019
#As of the visual update in Ultimate, I am now much more fond of this stage. It's also more fun to play on now, especially because you can spike opponents through the clouds. ''[[User:Trainer Alex|<span style="color: blue;">'''Alex'''</span>]] the [[User talk:Trainer Alex|<span style="color: red;">'''Jigglypuff trainer'''</span>]]'' 10:10, December 22, 2019 (EST)
#Magicant is just better to fight on in my opinion. Flying Man is pretty annoying, but the reason I'm giving a full vote because it has better music, and platforms, just listening to Unfounded Revenge/Smashing song of praise while fighting as Ness/Lucas on Magicant is enough to make me feel better. [[User:Weegeegaming|'''<span style="color: green;">Weegeegaming</span>''']]|[[User talk:Weegeegaming|'''''<span style="color: red;">talk</span>''''']] 04:31, April 11, 2020 (EDT)
 
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#This stage is more fun in my opinion. <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:73.204.16.209|73.204.16.209]] ([[User talk:73.204.16.209|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/73.204.16.209|contribs]]) 15:45, 11 September 2018 (EDT)</small>
#I prefer the music and the stage layout over Mushroom Kingdom II. <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:Epic Meme God|Epic Meme God]] ([[User talk:Epic Meme God|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Epic Meme God|contribs]]) 20:27, 5 February 2019 (EST)</small>
#Mushroom Kingdom 2 is not in the Mushroom Kingdom, it's in Supcon!!! <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:LinkBoy|LinkBoy]] ([[User talk:LinkBoy|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/LinkBoy|contribs]]) 18:08, 8 March 2019 (EST)</small>
#I am a massive fan of the Mother series, and plus this stage is beautiful. <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:Xay1494|Xay1494]] ([[User talk:Xay1494|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Xay1494|contribs]]) 20:28, 15 March 2019 (EDT)</small>
#Magicant also references Earthbound Zero. Its a fun stage with the Flyingmen. <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:FlaminKirb|FlaminKirb]] ([[User talk:FlaminKirb|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/FlaminKirb|contribs]]) 12:56, April 12, 2019</small>
#Magicant hazards off is pretty nice for casual doubles/free for all’s not gonna lie. <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:ThiccMan|ThiccMan]] ([[User talk:ThiccMan|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/ThiccMan|contribs]]) 08:27, 2019 April 13</small>
#I love this stage a lot! If I am not feeling like a serious 1v1, I might do a slightly more casual free-for-all on this stage. 18:33 September 24, 2019 (EST) Kalifguest22 <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:Kalifguest22|Kalifguest22]] ([[User talk:Kalifguest22|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kalifguest22|contribs]]) 18:33 September 24, 2019 (EDT)</small>
#FLYING BIRD MAN <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:69.5.117.14|69.5.117.14]] ([[User talk:69.5.117.14|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/69.5.117.14|contribs]]) 19:22, December 11, 2019</small>
#Just better <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:107.77.249.24|107.77.249.24]] ([[User talk:107.77.249.24|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/107.77.249.24|contribs]]) 16:32, December 12, 2019</small>
#As a casual smash player, this is a great stage for camping and a lot of people struggle with the bottom area.<small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:18.205.117.140|18.205.117.140]] ([[User talk:18.205.117.140|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/18.205.117.140|contribs]]) 19:24, March 19, 2020</small>
 
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The reason I love Mushroom Kingdom II is because of the music from ''{{s|mariowiki|Super Mario Bros 2}}''. First, you have the overworld theme during a match and when time is running out and in [[Sudden Death]], it changes to the boss battle theme! Great stage! [[User:Dragonfirebreath25|Dragonfirebreath25]] ([[User talk:Dragonfirebreath25|talk]]) 17:19, 2 June 2018 (EDT)
HOPY SHIT ANOTHER SMASH ARENA! [[Special:Contributions/69.34.130.170|69.34.130.170]] 08:14, 13 December 2015 (EST)
:Actually, Suzaku Castle in Smash 4 will do the same thing, although it has to be a specific track of music.[[Special:Contributions/72.133.91.93|72.133.91.93]] 08:09, 7 June 2018 (EDT)Blueflame105
Someone keeps deleting my vote! I keep voting the same thing on Magicant, but every time I come back to the page to look at new votes, my vote is gone! I'm not sockpuppeting, so why do my votes keep being taken off? [[Special:Contributions/72.133.91.93|72.133.91.93]] 12:00, 8 June 2018 (EDT)Blueflame105
:Apparently someone with the same IP address has already voted. That's probably why it didn't count.[[User:SugarCookie420|SugarCookie420]] ([[User talk:SugarCookie420|talk]]) 08:40, 23 August 2018 (EDT)
:Amazing stage picks for this Smash Arena
How is this still going [[User talk:RetroPika|<font color="yellow">RetroPika</font>]][[File:PikachuHeadSSB.png|17px]] 04:58, 8 January 2019 (EST)
::The wiki status is still Red, so not much attention is placed onto this. [[User:SugarCookie420|<span style="font-family:Times New Roman"><span style="color: red;">SugarCookie</span></span>]] [[User talk:SugarCookie420|<span style="font-family:Impact"><span style="color: green;">420</span></span>]] 14:54, 4 March 2019 (EST)
:::Still, these are supposed to be weekly, and it's been about 10 months. We should probably end this round at some point. <span style="color:lightblue">'''Everone123'''</span> [[File:Everone123 Sig.png|20px]] ([[User:Everone123|u]] / [[User talk:Everone123|t]] / [[Special:Contributions/Everone123|c]]) 21:50, March 15, 2019 (EDT)
::::We are in a red Wiki status which means we must focus more on main articles than the SA. We can get new rounds once the status lowers to at least a yellow. [[:User:ZeldaStarfoxfan2164{{#if:|_({{{3}}})}}|ZeldaStarfoxfan2164]] ([[User talk:ZeldaStarfoxfan2164|talk]]) is made in America  21:58, March 15, 2019 (EDT)
::::We are now in the yellow status. It's still high, but we should probably have a new arena by the end of April. [[User:X-Biaur19|X-Biaur19]] ([[User talk:X-Biaur19|talk]]) 10:10, April 25, 2019 (EDT)X-Biaur19
:::::We may be in yellow, but we are still in a very heavy yellow, which is honestly almost red, due to jokers reveal. It may seem like its unnecessary to have to wait this long but i dont think we should try to rush the admins right now. <span style="background:#ea244a;border:outset #906 5px">'''[[User:Xtra3678|Xtra]][[File:Xtra_headpng.png|20px]][[User talk:Xtra3678|<span style="color:Lime">Talk</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Xtra3678|<span style="color: Gold">Edits</span>]]'''</span> 12:29, April 25, 2019 (EDT)
::::That's fair.[[User:X-Biaur19|X-Biaur19]] ([[User talk:X-Biaur19|talk]]) 10:07, April 29, 2019 (EDT)X-Biaur19
Hasn't this match been going for more than a year now?[[User:DarkNight|DarkNight]] ([[User talk:DarkNight|talk]]) 20:55, June 16, 2019 (EDT)
 
I think both stages are about equal in functionality when weighing strengths and weaknesses, but Magicant wins out for me not only because it's absolutely breathtaking, especially in Ultimate, but because of the rampant references to Mother 1 and 2. As anyone who has followed my edits knows (which I expect to be a grand total of zero), origins really really matter to me, so to see a stage crafted with such love for the source material just amazes me. Mushroom Kingdom II is no slouch either, but I'd argue it's slightly worse since almost all of its assets are just straight-up taken from All-Stars while Magicant uses mostly original models and animations. Sure it also takes things directly from both of the Mother games it appears in, but uses them sparingly and mostly just for a few cool call-backs in the background. I think it says a lot when I've never been a huge Mother fan and yet the love for the series put into this stage blows me away. [[Special:Contributions/73.220.19.65|73.220.19.65]] 16:45, June 19, 2019 (EDT)


...This is going to end soon right?<span style="font-family: Algerian; font-size:12pt"> '''[[User: supatoad64|<span style="color:dodgerblue;"> Supa </span>]] [[User talk: supatoad64|<span style="color:dodgerblue;"> Toad 64 </span>]]''' </span> [[ Image: MK64ToadCSP.jpg|20px  ]] 02:17, June 22, 2019 (EDT)
Am I allowed to switch my vote? [[File:PikachuMS.png|20px]] [[User:ThePikaPlayer|<span style="color: gold;">'''Pika,'''</span>]] [[User Talk:ThePikaPlayer|<span style="color: gray;">'''Chilly!'''</span>]] 19:55, 15 December 2015 (EST)
 
: yes pikaplayer just cross your vote out. [[User:Nintendofan1653|<font color="red">'''Nintendofan1653'''</font>]] ''([[User talk:Nintendofan1653#top|<font color="blue">talk</font>]])'' 18:59, 18 December 2015 (EST)
OK I think this one has had its run and we should stop it now. We may be in red but my god this just dragged on and on and on and on... [[User:Coconut2|<font color="cyan">Coconut2</font>]][[File:IsabelleHeadSSBU.png|20px]] 10:08, June 25, 2019
::Thanks a lot! :) [[File:PikachuMS.png|20px]] [[User:ThePikaPlayer|<span style="color: gold;">'''Pika,'''</span>]] [[User Talk:ThePikaPlayer|<span style="color: gray;">'''Chilly!'''</span>]] 15:52, 23 December 2015 (EST)
:If smash arena is supposed to have a new match weekly, this is exatly 1 year, 3 weeks, and 1 day overdue.<span style="font-family: Algerian; font-size:12pt"> '''[[User: supatoad64|<span style="color:dodgerblue;"> Supa </span>]] [[User talk: supatoad64|<span style="color:dodgerblue;"> Toad 64 </span>]]''' </span> [[ Image: MK64ToadCSP.jpg|20px  ]] 20:35, July 1, 2019 (EDT)
:is smash arena still going toomai? if not i can take over for you! [[File:PoultrysigSSB4.png|20x50px]][[User:Poultry|<font color="red">'''Poultry'''</font>]][[File:PoultrysigSSBM.png|20x50px]]''([[User talk:Poultry#top|<font color="blue">talk</font>]])'' the Pumpkin Pie 20:17, 10 March 2016 (EST)
OK END THIS ALREADY THIS IS ALREADY TOO MUCH TIME OR HELL EVEN CANCEL SMASH ARENA ENTIRELY, I DON'T CARE, JUST END IT. [[User:Coconut2|<font color="cyan">Coconut2</font>]][[File:IsabelleHeadSSBU.png|20px]] 21:21, July 17, 2019
:First, calm down, it's not like this will go on for another millennium again. Second I will contact the admin team regarding when this will end.<span style="font-family: Algerian; font-size:12pt"> '''[[User: supatoad64|<span style="color:dodgerblue;"> Supa </span>]] [[User talk: supatoad64|<span style="color:dodgerblue;"> Toad 64 </span>]]''' </span> [[ Image: MK64ToadCSP.jpg|20px  ]] 05:43, July 19, 2019 (EDT)
When will we get a new Smash Arena? [[Special:Contributions/174.55.24.64|174.55.24.64]] 17:52, September 4, 2019 (EDT)
 
Just gonna put it here, do not comment on when we are getting another Smash Arena. The admins will get to it when they get to it, and asking again and again will get you nowhere. [[User:Cookies and Creme|<span style="font-family: Georgia;color: black;">Cookies</span>]][[File:CnC Signature.png|20px]][[User talk:Cookies and Creme|<span style="font-family: Georgia; color: black;">Creme</span>]] 18:39, September 22, 2019 (EDT)
 
Ok, so when’s the new Smash Arena coming? Genuine confusion. <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:TCBlitz|TCBlitz]] ([[User talk:TCBlitz|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/TCBlitz|contribs]]) 22:13, November 12, 2019</small>
:Read what I said above. [[User:Cookies and Creme|<span style="font-family: Georgia;color: black;">Cookies</span>]][[File:CnC Signature.png|20px]][[User talk:Cookies and Creme|<span style="font-family: Georgia; color: black;">Creme</span>]] 19:11, December 9, 2019 (EST)
Uhhh... how long has this been on? I just made my account in March and, judging by your comments, it's been like, two years. [[User:Weegeegaming|'''<span style="color: green;">Weegeegaming</span>''']]|[[User talk:Weegeegaming|'''''<span style="color: red;">talk</span>''''']] 04:37, April 11, 2020 (EDT)
 
:Smash Arena is not a priority as of right now. The admins will make a new one eventually, not yet just. [[Image:001Toad.jpg|20px]] <span style="font-family:Algerian">'''[[User:OmegaToad64|<font color="blue">OmegαToαd</font> <font color="aqua">the Toαd Wαrrior</font>]] [[User talk:OmegaToad64|<font color="springgreen">(BUP)</font></span>]]''' 04:40, April 11, 2020 (EDT)
::If you want, you can join our Discord. We have an active Smash Arena there. [[User:Cookies and Creme|<span style="font-family: Georgia;color: black;">Cookies</span>]][[File:CnC Signature.png|20px]][[User talk:Cookies and Creme|<span style="font-family: Georgia; color: black;">Creme</span>]] 17:49, April 13, 2020 (EDT)
 
Huh, I guess that's the end of Smash Arena. I stopped following it a few years back. RIP. --[[User:Meester Tweester|Meester Tweester]] ([[User talk:Meester Tweester|talk]]) 00:15, April 16, 2020 (EDT)
::Smash Arena is on Discord now, the SA tab links to its page. [[:User:ZeldaStarfoxfan2164{{#if:|_({{{3}}})}}|ZeldaStarfoxfan2164]] ([[User talk:ZeldaStarfoxfan2164|talk]]) is a never lover boy  23:21, April 23, 2020 (EDT)
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==Round 256: [[Sheik]] vs. [[Greninja]]==
==Round 237: [[Battleship Halberd]] vs. [[Isle of the Ancients]]==
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|colspan="2" style="background:#dfdfdf; text-align:center" valign="top"|<font size=5>'''Winner!!'''</font><br><font size=3>'''''Greninja'''''</font><br>[[Image:Greninja SSB4.png|225x225px|center]]<br><font size=3>''11 to 12''</font><br>
|colspan="2" style="background:#dfdfdf; text-align:center" valign="top"|<font size=5>'''Winner!!'''</font><br><font size=3>'''''Battleship Halberd'''''</font><br>[[Image:Halberdsse.jpg|225x225px|center]]<br><font size=3>''41 to 17.5''</font><br>
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|style="width:100%; background:#dfdfdf; padding:5px" colspan="6"|Both taken over and later destroyed by the Subspace Army, these two high-tech high-powered fortresses are now in another battle. Does the swordsman's airship or the robots' homeland come out on top?
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===Votes for ''Sheik''===
===Votes for ''Battleship Halberd''===
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#Its got Zelda and Falco in it. Also Subspace Bomb Factory Part II gets really annoying on harder difficulties. [[:User:ZeldaStarfoxfan2164|ZeldaStarfoxfan2164]] ([[User talk:ZeldaStarfoxfan2164|talk]]) is bad for me  23:40, 18 April 2015 (EDT)
#As cool as floating islands are, Revenge of Meta Knight is just too awesome to let this pass un-voted. [[User:FirstaLasto|<font color="pink">♡</font>'''Firsta'''Lasto<font color="pink">♥</font>]] 00:20, 19 April 2015 (EDT)
#I like this area in the actual Kirby games. [[User:MarioIsTheBest|MarioIsTheBest]] ([[User talk:MarioIsTheBest|talk]]) 08:44, 19 April 2015 (EDT)
#I'm not very fond of original Smash Bros locations. <span style="color: lime">'''Nyargle'''</span><span style="color: orange">'''blargle'''</span> ([[User talk:Nyargleblargle|Talk]]) 11:50, 19 April 2015 (EDT)
#Don't get me wrong, I really enjoyed the SSE. However, the main problem I had with it was the huge emphasis on original areas and enemies, (seriously, this is a crossover, why not focus more on places and enemies from the various universes?). Thus, I pick Halberd, since it's not an original Smash location, and it's also one of my favorite stages in ''Brawl''. '''[[User:MeatBall104|MeatBall104;]]''' [[User talk:MeatBall104|You Will Know]] [[Special:Contributions/MeatBall104|My Name!]] 12:31, 19 April 2015 (EDT)
#I like Kirby series and I have no idea what the other is.[[Special:Contributions/68.109.72.5|68.109.72.5]] 13:20, 19 April 2015 (EDT)
#[[User:Dots|<font color="red">'''D'''</font><font color="green">'''o'''</font><font color="blue">'''t'''</font><font color="purple">'''s'''</font>]] ([[User talk:Dots|talk]]) [[File:Mega Man X SNES sprite.png|19px]] The Metal Gear REX 13:43, 19 April 2015 (EDT)
#[[Special:Contributions/180.149.192.139|180.149.192.139]] 17:16, 19 April 2015 (EDT)
# I am afraid of brawl. go to my userpage to find out why:  i'm [[:User:Valehd|Valehd]] the smashbro pro!([[User talk:Valehd|talk]])tawlk 2 teh catholic pokemon master 18:28, 21 April 2015 (EDT)
#I liked this stage in Subspace more anyways, and I love Kirby more than Sonic. [[User:F0rZ3r0F0r|F0rZ3r0F0r]] ([[User talk:F0rZ3r0F0r|talk]]) 22:26, 21 April 2015 (EDT)
#[[Special:Contributions/1.152.97.84|1.152.97.84]] 22:40, 21 April 2015 (EDT)
#Halberd is amazing. --[[User:Timson622222|Timson622222]] ([[User talk:Timson622222|talk]]) 22:42, 21 April 2015 (EDT)
#[[User:SonicfanXD|SonicfanXD]] ([[User talk:SonicfanXD|talk]]) 12:42, 22 April 2015 (EDT)
#The Halberd always seemed like an overwrought mess, especially for a Kirby game. Seemed like it needed half the population of Pop Star to even run, and yet, they still couldn't hold off one pink puffball. That's precisely why I love it so. --[[User:Fubaka|Fubaka]] ([[User talk:Fubaka|talk]]) 12:24, 23 April 2015 (EDT)
#[[Special:Contributions/121.223.164.229|121.223.164.229]] 06:12, 24 April 2015 (EDT)
#Favorite Brawl stage [[User:73MPL4R|'''<span style="color:#857363">73MPL4R</span>''']][[User talk:73MPL4R|'''<span style="color:#505050"> Only the dead have seen the end of war</span>''']] 15:32, 25 April 2015 (EDT)
# Best Stage EVER also the other stage is dumb halberd is cool kirbys are cute this poem makes no sense...Microwave [[User:Hyper Nintendo|Hyper Nintendo]] ([[User talk:Hyper Nintendo|talk]]) 07:30, 27 April 2015 (EDT)
# A great Brawl stage indeed! Kirby fights there in various Kirby games so, I agree! [[User:Dragonfirebreath25|Dragonfirebreath25]] ([[User talk:Dragonfirebreath25|talk]]) 11:12, 28 April 2015 (EDT)
#The only spaceship I know to wear a mask. [[User:Dashiell|Dashiell]] ([[User talk:Dashiell|talk]]) 22:21, 29 April 2015 (EDT)
#I was extremly happy to crush people as Sheik on the battleship, so it has one more vote from me! This is also my first edit, so let me know if I did something wrong. [[User:LittleMacmain97|LittleMacmain97]] ([[User talk:LittleMacmain97|talk]]) 18:45, 30 April 2015 (EDT)
#Hurray for Kirby. --[[Special:Contributions/75.130.201.118|75.130.201.118]] 21:06, 4 May 2015 (EDT)
# [[File:353.png]] [[User:Mesuxelf|<font color="deeppink">'''Mes'''</font>]][[User talk:Mesuxelf|<font color="yellow">'''ux'''</font><font color="darkblue">'''elf'''</font>]] 13:43, 6 May 2015 (EDT)
#Patiently waiting for a Halberd kart in Mario Kart 8. <span style="font-family:AR JULIAN; font-size:12pt">[[User:ChuckNorris24|<span style="color:brown">Chuck</span>]][[User talk:ChuckNorris24|<span style="color:brown">Norris</span>]]</span>[[File:24.png|23px]]  14:25, 9 May 2015 (EDT)
#Because Kirby. [[User:Nintenzilla|Nintenzilla]] ([[User talk:Nintenzilla|talk]]) 13:22, 17 May 2015 (EDT)
# Because Mk is my main and I don't like the Sonic the Hedgehog series [[User:Blizzard-Star|Blizzard-Star]] ([[User talk:Blizzard-Star|talk]]) 16:03, 3 June 2015 (EDT)[[User:Blizzard-Star|Blizzard-Star]]
#Let's see. Halberd has turrets, a cannon, a...weird arm thing(?), energy bombs and a badass look. Isle of Ancients...well... [[User:Serpent_King|<span style="color:#008833; text-shadow:-1px -1px #00bb77;">'''Serpent King'''</span>]] [[User talk:Serpent_King|(<span style="color: blue;">talk</span>)]] 21:50, 9 June 2015 (EDT)
#Despite having the Halberd being crushed, it still has a great defense to it, like those cannons there. The Isle of Ancients is nice, but the Halberd is highly more efficient[[User:EmiliaTheHyperSniper|EmiliaTheHyperSniper]] ([[User talk:EmiliaTheHyperSniper|talk]]) 22:25, 24 June 2015 (EDT)  [[:User:EmiliaTheHyperSniper|EmiliaTheHyperSniper]] ([[User talk:EmiliaTheHYperSniper|talk]])
#When theres Meta Knight, get REKT! [[User:SparkyPikachu|SparkyPikachu]] ([[User Talk:SparkyPikachu|talk]])
#The Kirby Series is awesome; therefore, Battleship Halberd is awesome! [[User:AmoongussForLife|AmoongussForLife]] ([[User talk:AmoongussForLife|talk]]) 12:20, 18 July 2015 (EDT)
#Not too familiar with the Isle of the Ancients. [[User:RevengeOfMetaKnight |RevengeOfMetaKnight]] ([[User talk:RevengeOfMetaKnight|talk]]) 12:22, 21 July 2015 (EDT)
#Besides just being a kirby fan, I really like this location better, because the isle if ancients was never pleasing or memorable to me in any way. The halberd is cooler imo, and I actually remember playing it. [[User:TheAtomicFire|<span style="color:orange">TheAtomic</span>]][[User talk:TheAtomicFire|<span style="color:red">Fire</span>]] [[File:BluePichu.png|20x20px]] 18:15, 26 July 2015 (EDT)
#I think I'll go with the Halberd on this one. It's an actual weapon, isn't a big, rocky, defenseless target in the middle of nowhere, and isn't derivative. Isle of the Ancients? ''Sonic 3 & Knuckles'' wants its island back. [[User:Hawk 21|<font color="maroon">'''Hawk'''</font> <font color="orange">'''21'''</font>]][[File:PSIWolf sig 1.png|20px]][[User talk:Hawk 21|''<span style="color: red;">'''Talk'''</span>'']]  03:33, 8 August 2015 (EDT)
#A badass battleship against an island? Yeah, pretty obvious. Plus I don't like the Sonic franchise at all. [[User:WiserThanYou|WiserThanYou]] ([[User talk:WiserThanYou|talk]]) 04:23, 8 August 2015 (EDT)
#Battleship halberd is a manacing battleship, whereas Isle of the Ancients is... An island inhabited by R.O.B.s? Easy choice here... Halberd gets my vote! [[User:INoMed|INoMed]], <span style="color:orange">King of</span> <span style="color:red">Demons</span> 10:12, 29 August 2015 (EDT)
#Per INoMed. [[User:Ganonmew|Ganonmew]] ([[User talk:Ganonmew|talk]]) 12:27, 6 September 2015 (EDT)
#I like Kirby-verse so ye --[[User:Myth|<font color="orange">'''Myth'''</font>]] [[File:Myth Kirby.png|19px|link=User talk:Myth]] 09:05, 30 September 2015 (EDT)
#It's a dark and misterious stage, but it's a super stage and all loves [[User:SmashAri|SmashAri]] 20:42, 15 October 2015 (EDT)
#because meta knight. [[User:Elitemagikarp|Elitemagikarp]] ([[User talk:Elitemagikarp|talk]]) 15:50, 20 October 2015 (EDT)
#All I can say is Meta Knight is awesome. Who doesn't like Meta Knight? [[User:ThePikaPlayer]] 10:02, 29 October 2015 (EDT)
#I guess I'll finally vote. Halberd is one of the only stages in ''Project M'' I didn't replace music for. Why is that? Because Gourmet Race is one of the best songs ever added to Smash Bros. Besides that, I think the Halberd is the cooler contestant here. <b>[[User:john3637881|<span style="color: black;">John</span>]]</b> [[File:John3637881 Signature.png|20px]] <b>[[User talk:John3637881|<span style="color: red;">PK SMAAAASH!!</span>]]</b> 13:29, 4 November 2015 (EST)
#There isn't much to know about the Isle besides the fact that there is now a ROB factory on it (unless there's some hidden lore I don't know about). [[User:AquaShield11097|<span style="color: blue;">Aqua Shield</span>]] ([[User talk:AquaShield11097|''<span style="color: darkblue;">talk</span>'']]) [[File:AquaShield.png|20px]] 19:01, 9 November 2015 (EST)
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#Hmm some weird frog thing or a ninja of royalty? <span style="font-family:Algerian;font-size:10pt;background:#000;border:outset #083 2px;padding:1px">'''[[User:Serpent King|<span style="color:#083">Serpent</span>]] [[File:SKSig.png|12px|link=]] [[User talk:Serpent King|<span style="color:#ed0">King</span>]]'''</span> 00:44, 16 December 2017 (EST)
===Votes for ''Isle of the Ancients''===
#Yeah Sheik is 10x more fun to play at high level, and way more interesting to watch than Greninja most of the time. <span style="color:Green;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px skyblue">'''--'''</span>[[User:Penro|<span style="color:Red; text-shadow: 0px 0px 3px red">'''Pen'''</span>]][[User talk:Penro|<span style="color:Black; text-shadow: 0px 0px 3px black">'''ro'''</span>]] 08:41, 19 December 2017 (EST)
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#Fun fact: when I was in primary school, I once wore a similar disguise and was known as Sheik for that day. <span style="font-family:Mario Party 2/3 Textbox">[[User:RickTommy|<span style="color:red">Rick</span>]][[User talk:RickTommy|<span style="color:green">Tommy</span>]]</span> 22:27, 11 January 2018 (EST)
#[[User:ZatannaCobblepot|ZatannaCobblepot]] ([[User talk:ZatannaCobblepot|talk]]) 02:50, 19 April 2015 (EDT)
#Sheik has a grenade, martial arts training, needles, and exploding walnuts. Greninja has a long-ass tongue, a log, and a crappy doll. Who would you choose? [[User:Iron Gladiator|Iron Reggie, Master of Memes]] ([[User talk:Iron Gladiator|talk]]) 02:04, 28 January 2018 (EST)
#Because I'm a Sonic fan and the Isle of the Ancients looks mysteriously like [http://sonic.wikia.com/wiki/Angel_Island Angel Island]. [[File:Aidanzapunksignature.png|20px]][[User:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''Aidan'''</span>]], [[User talk:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''Master of Speed and Aura'''</span>]][[File:AidanzapunkSignaturesmall.PNG]] 13:41, 19 April 2015 (EDT)
#I like both of them but I like Sheik more cuz top tier [[User:SmileFtw123|SmileFtw123]] ([[User talk:SmileFtw123|talk]]) 03:05, 30 January 2018 (EST)
#Subspace Bomb Factory Part 2 is my favorite stage in the Subspace Emissary. [[Special:Contributions/71.108.116.104|71.108.116.104]] 14:28, 19 April 2015 (EDT)
#I think I prefer Sheik a little bit more, so I guess I'll place my vote here.--[[Special:Contributions/192.197.128.21|192.197.128.21]] 13:16, 2 February 2018 (EST)
#This is where R.O.B.s are made. R.O.B. is in Mario Kart DS. I like Mario Kart games. I like chocolate. Chocolate is food. Food is tasty. R.O.B. is not. It all loops around. [[Special:Contributions/72.105.4.229|72.105.4.229]] 15:47, 19 April 2015 (EDT)
#I prefer Sheik's aesthetic design, and Greninja isn't a very good starter in my opinion. Neither is great to me, but I prefer Sheik. --[[User:UnbeatableSith|UnbeatableSith]] ([[User talk:UnbeatableSith|talk]]) 21:41, 16 March 2018 (EDT)
#[[Special:Contributions/147.41.128.34|147.41.128.34]] 02:12, 21 April 2015 (EDT)
# [[Special:Contributions/174.53.1.71|174.53.1.71]] 10:57, 5 February 2018 (EST)
#AUDI FAMAM ILLIUS [[User:Awesomelink234|Awes]]o[[User_talk:Awesomelink234|melink234]] PK FLASHBOMB! 14:48, 24 April 2015 (EDT)
#She has a chain. [[User:Pokebub|Pokebub]] ([[User talk:Pokebub|talk]]) 22:43, 16 March 2018 (EDT)
#The Isle Of The Ancients had at one point been a rich society of happiness and fortune, but that all ended when the events of the Subspace Emissary began. After this adventure mode, R. O. B. becomes the last of his kind, not to mention (spoiler alert) that he was a driving force in killing off his own brethren when he posed as the Ancient Minister. The story of R. O. B. and the Isle Of The Ancients is one of tragic pain and eternal sadness, while the Battleship Halberd went through virtually neither trial nor tribulation. Unlike R. O. B.'s home, it saw pretty much no suffering; unlike R. O. B.'s home, it's history was not nullified; and unlike R. O. B.'s home, the race that prospered, danced, and thrived on it was not wiped out, with the exception of a lone survivor, who became forced to bear the heavy weight of the death of his species, including his family and friends. More than that, because one could posit that robots are technically immortal (since they had no natural life to begin with), R. O. B. must carry these nightmares over his shoulder literally forever, without any beautiful, merciful end. [[User:Everyman Or Nobody?|Everyman Or Nobody?]] ([[User talk:Everyman Or Nobody?|talk]]) 00:27, 25 April 2015 (EDT)
#I can't stand fighting against Greninja, and Sheik was one of my mains in Brawl. Also, I feel like she has a higher chance of making it into Smash 5. [[User:TheNuttyOne|TheNuttyOne]] 15:58, 11 April 2018 (EDT)
#It has Captain Falcon, therefruit is an instant win [[User:Kenniky|Kenniky]] [[File:SMASHROSTERSMALL.png|20px|link=User_talk:Kenniky]] 13:22, 25 April 2015 (EDT)
#It's like [Hyrule] Temple chopped in half. And Temple could do to be chopped in half. [[User:ToastUltimatum|<font color="ff8c00">'''Toast'''</font>]] [[File:Wii U Logo Transparent.png|17px]][[User talk:ToastUltimatum|<font color="01a3c4">'''ltimatum'''</font>]] 14:27, 25 April 2015 (EDT)
#Reasons. '''[[User:Littlesquirtle|<span style="color:#821212;">Littlesquirtle</span>]]'''! '''''[[User talk:Littlesquirtle|<span style="color:#U1C1C1;">I choose you!</span>]]'''''[[File:LittleSquirtleSig.png|25px]] 09:47, 28 April 2015 (EDT)
#It wasn't used to take over [[wikirby:Dream Land|a country]]. {{s|user|PikaSamus}} ([[User talk:PikaSamus|talk]]) [[File:PikaSamusSig.png|12px|link=Special:Contributions/PikaSamus|PikaSamus]] 11:27, 28 April 2015 (EDT)
#The first reasons listed, plus having the only Mario Kart driver in its series to be MKDS-exclusive. --[[User:MandL27|MandL27]] ([[User talk:MandL27|talk]]) 13:09, 1 May 2015 (EDT)
#Same reason as everyman or nobody. Plus it looks eerily similar to a sonic location... [[Special:Contributions/2.202.236.11|2.202.236.11]] 15:02, 3 June 2015 (EDT)
#Floating islands ftw. [[User:Takava|Takava]] ([[User talk:Takava|talk]]) 19:35, 22 July 2015 (EDT)
#<span style="font-family:Mario Party 2/3 Textbox">[[User:RickTommy|<span style="color:red">Rick</span>]][[User talk:RickTommy|<span style="color:green">Tommy</span>]]</span> 21:59, 22 July 2015 (EDT)
#[[User:Pitoo|Pitoo]] ([[User talk:Pitoo|talk]]) 21:21, 29 July 2015 (EDT)
# just... R.O.B thats all i got to say [[User:Nintendofan1653|Nintendofan1653]] ([[User talk:Nintendofan1653|talk]]) 17:04, 1 December 2015 (EST)


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#Shiek is better <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:24.234.62.218 |24.234.62.218 ]] ([[User talk:24.234.62.218 |talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/24.234.62.218 |contribs]]) 23:22, 11 December 2017 (EST)</small>
#Its story is so cool! [[User:Likeaboss4$maSh|Likeaboss4$maSh]] ([[User talk:Likeaboss4$maSh|talk]])
#very good at aerial combos# <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:73.222.194.39|73.222.194.39]] ([[User talk:73.222.194.39|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/73.222.194.39|contribs]]) 03:46, 9 January 2018</small>
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===Votes for ''Greninja''===
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#I find Sheik's playstyle in SSB4 to be quite aggravating to play as or against. Greninja's not so frustrating. [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Verdana;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 01:32, 11 December 2017 (EST)
#Us Pokémon gotta stick together I guess. ''[[User:Alex Parpotta|<span style="color: blue;">'''Alex Parpotta'''</span>]] the [[User talk:Alex Parpotta|<span style="color: red;">'''flying lobster!'''</span>]]'' 04:54, 11 December 2017 (EST)
#I like ''Pokémon'' more, Greninja has appeared in more than just one canon game (discounting remakes), and its playstyle in ''Smash'' is far more interesting to watch. [[File:034.png|20px]] '''<span style="font-family:Algerian">[[User:DracoRexKing|<font color="red">DracoRex,]]</font> [[User talk:DracoRexKing|<font color="olive">Creator of the Land]]</font></span>''' 07:45, 11 December 2017 (EST)
#Greninja is a great Pokémon and he did appear in Sun and Moon as a present. Greninja's playstyle in ''Smash 4'' is... awesome! [[User:Dragonfirebreath25|Dragonfirebreath25]] ([[User talk:Dragonfirebreath25|talk]]) 09:33, 13 December 2017 (EST)
#R.I.P Sheik after Melee. The Smash 4 Sheik combo game is nothing like its predecessor. also I love the hydro pump jank [[User:Lasagna|lasagna B)]] ([[User talk:Lasagna|talk]]) 10:27, 13 December 2017 (EST)
#In Smash 5 Greninja's Final Smash should be Ash-Greninja. [[Special:Contributions/24.52.19.237|24.52.19.237]] 19:50, 15 December 2017 (EST)
#Better nerf Greninja <span style="font-family:AR JULIAN; font-size:12pt">[[User:ChuckNorris24|<span style="color:red">Chuck</span>]][[User talk:ChuckNorris24|<span style="color:green">Norris</span>]]</span>[[File:24.png|23px]]  23:10, 15 December 2017 (EST)
#{{Sm|iStudying}}. Nuff said. [[User:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: red;">'''Aidan'''</span>]], [[User talk:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: green;">'''the Festive Rurouni'''</span>]] 20:52, 18 December 2017 (EST)
#--[[Special:Contributions/23.17.208.28|23.17.208.28]] 01:46, 24 January 2018 (EST)
#Greninja is just the character I think is cooler (although ANY ninja gets cool points). I do hope they change his final smash, however, if he's gonna be in Smash 5 [[User:Crazy456Rhino|Crazy456Rhino]] ([[User talk:Crazy456Rhino|talk]]) 12:02, 9 March 2018 (EST)
#I love Greninja so much. He's the best of my four mains, and I hope he's in Smash 5! [[User:Capnap64|Capnap64]] ([[User talk:Capnap64|talk]]) 09:33, 4 April 2018 (EDT)
#Greninja is fun. Sheik is not. Sheik is aggravating, both to play as and against. Greninja is not. Greninja is a hecking awesome ninja that can literally make shurikens out of water! Sheik just throws needles at people and plays a harp. Enough said. [[Special:Contributions/72.133.91.93|72.133.91.93]] 08:05, 10 May 2018 (EDT) Blueflame105
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Shouldn't this match have been decided, like, several weeks ago? [[User:Iron Warrior|<span style="color: red;">'''Iron Reggie,'''</span>]] [[User talk:Iron Warrior|<span style="color: cyan;">'''Master of Memes'''</span>]] 10:31, 26 February 2018 (EST)
Okay, #4 Isle of Ancients... what even...
Also, Everyman, why are your votes always so DEEP?!
Everyman you should shorten your votes and also sign your comments the guy above me use the ~ key 3 times [[User:Hyper Nintendo|Hyper Nintendo]] ([[User talk:Hyper Nintendo|talk]]) 07:32, 27 April 2015 (EDT)
:Nope; four ~ are needed. Three gives just the signature without the timestamp. [[User:Berrenta|Berrenta]] ([[User talk:Berrenta|talk]]) 12:19, 22 June 2015 (EDT)
 
I've noticed that a lot of people think that Isle of Ancients is from Sonic. I think this is because if Aidan's comment, but I'm not sure. [[User:LittleMacmain97|LittleMacmain97, lord of the punch.]] ([[User talk:LittleMacmain97|talk]]) 22:21, 6 June 2015 (EDT)
:It's not actually a Sonic stage since he doesn't appear until the very end of the Subspace Emissary. Besides, the SA Box features a R.O.B. symbol, not a Sonic symbol. [[:User:ZeldaStarfoxfan2164|ZeldaStarfoxfan2164]] ([[User talk:ZeldaStarfoxfan2164|talk]]) is made in America  23:01, 6 June 2015 (EDT)
 
This fight has been up for over 2 months. When we are going to get a new one? [[User:Awesomelink234|Awes]]o[[User_talk:Awesomelink234|melink234]] PK FLASHBOMB! 09:40, 22 June 2015 (EDT)
:With events so big like E3, we might not even get a new match until the end of summer or even November (Yes, there was a 6 month hiatus before). [[User:Dots|<font color="red">'''D'''</font><font color="green">'''o'''</font><font color="blue">'''t'''</font><font color="purple">'''s'''</font>]] ([[User talk:Dots|talk]]) [[File:Mega Man X SNES sprite.png|19px]] The Zero 10:30, 22 June 2015 (EDT)
::True, but there was nothing Smash-related really big at E3 this year. [[User:Awesomelink234|Awes]]o[[User_talk:Awesomelink234|melink234]] PK FLASHBOMB! 21:48, 22 June 2015 (EDT) 
Everyman should just off the smash arena also,smash arena updates when the wiki is NOT on yellow <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:‎Hyper Nintendo|‎Hyper Nintendo]] ([[User talk:‎Hyper Nintendo|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/‎Hyper Nintendo|contribs]]) 00:32, 30 June 2015 (EDT)</small>
:The Smash Arena progressed on a yellow status before. It was on a hiatus when the wiki was on a red status. Also, next time, sign your posts with <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>. [[:User:ZeldaStarfoxfan2164|ZeldaStarfoxfan2164]] ([[User talk:ZeldaStarfoxfan2164|talk]]) is bad for me  01:10, 30 June 2015 (EDT)
::#I said it reminded me of Angel Island. I didn't say it was.
::#I think it's about time this thing got changed as well.
::[[File:Aidanzapunksignature.png|20px]][[User:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''Aidan'''</span>]], [[User talk:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''Master of Speed and Aura'''</span>]][[File:AidanzapunkSignaturesmall.PNG]] 09:07, 10 August 2015 (EDT)
 
I'm ready for a new Smash Arena, there are a lot of good suggestions for you to choose from, so I think it needs a change. Even though the winner of this one's pretty obvious. [[Special:Contributions/75.141.44.151|75.141.44.151]] 17:40, 13 August 2015 (EDT)


This js still going? Currently Sheik 11, Greninja 12. [[User:SmileFtw123]] [[User talk:SmileFtw123]]
The first vote dates back to April 18th, and it is now September 3rd. I think it's time for a new one. [[File:Aidanzapunksignature.png|20px]][[User:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''Aidan'''</span>]], [[User talk:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''Master of Speed and Aura'''</span>]][[File:AidanzapunkSignaturesmall.PNG]] 09:16, 3 September 2015 (EDT)
Smileftw the tier list dose not matter im a dedede and jiggly main
:The sad thing is that we are still on the status of a ton of business to do. Smash Arena has very low priority as of right now but I would agree that it has been a year since Smash 4. Compared to that date to our current state, its not as bad, but unless if we try finishing up all that is to get caught up on quickly, Smash Arena is going nowhere for another 6 months or so. [[User:Dots|<font color="red">'''D'''</font><font color="green">'''o'''</font><font color="blue">'''t'''</font><font color="purple">'''s'''</font>]] ([[User talk:Dots|talk]]) [[File:Mega Man X SNES sprite.png|19px]] The Kamehameha 21:35, 14 September 2015 (EDT)
::I agree there's still work to be done, but I think updating this thing soon couldn't hurt the progress being done that much... I'm gonna go update the Floor Attack page now. (Almost had it done last week, and then my internet crashed and my progress wasn't saved...) [[User:AmoongussForLife|AmoongussForLife]] ([[User talk:AmoongussForLife|talk]]) 17:02, 29 September 2015 (EDT)
::: Aidan is right. I think. I hope. This is getting '''OLD'''. [[User:ThePikaPlayer|Pika, Poyo Poyo Poyo]] ([[User talk:ThePikaPlayer|talk]]) 14:16, 3 November 2015 (EST)
:::Btw, 75.141.44.151, it is obvious. [[File:PikachuMS.png]] [[User:ThePikaPlayer|<span style="color: yellow;">'''Pika,'''</span>]] [[User:ThePikaPlayer|<span style="color: brown;">'''Wild Turkey appeared!'''</span>]] [[User talk:ThePikaPlayer|''<span style="color: cyan;">Talkz</span>'']] 19:28, 3 November 2015 (EST)


Seriously, this should have happened months ago! Who's in charge of Smash Arena anyway? Blueflame105
Still waiting.... [[Special:Contributions/76.5.56.188|76.5.56.188]] 19:00, 27 September 2015 (EDT)


Ay, they did change his final smash for Smash 5. Nice. [[User:Crazy456Rhino|Crazy456Rhino]] ([[User talk:Crazy456Rhino|talk]]) 15:18, November 5, 2019 (EST)
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HuABhumm6fY This is me waiting for a new Smash Arena] [[File:Aidanzapunksignature.png|20px]][[User:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: black;">'''Aidan'''</span>]], [[User talk:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: orange">'''Master of Speed and Aura'''</span>]][[File:AidanzapunkSignaturesmall.PNG]] 10:21, 12 October 2015 (EDT)
 
:Be my guest. Tick, tock, tick, tock, tick, tock... '''''When will it end?!?!?!?''''' [[User:ThePikaPlayer|ThePikaPlayer]] ([[User talk:ThePikaPlayer|talk]]) 08:25, 31 October 2015 (EDT)
::The same way I feel like when the SmashWiki IRC channel is still linked on the main page despite nobody going there anymore. :/ [[User:Dots|<font color="red">'''D'''</font><font color="green">'''o'''</font><font color="blue">'''t'''</font><font color="purple">'''s'''</font>]] ([[User talk:Dots|talk]]) [[File:Mega Man X SNES sprite.png|19px]] The Ball 19:35, 3 November 2015 (EST)
:::You mean '''''nobody at all''''' goes there? I thought it was just me(JK). [[File:PikachuMS.png|20px]][[User:ThePikaPlayer|<span style="color: gold;">'''Pika,'''</span>]] [[User:ThePikaPlayer|<span style="color: brown;">'''Wild Turkey appeared!'''</span>]] [[User talk:ThePikaPlayer|''<span style="color: cyan;">Talk</span>'']] 15:54, 6 November 2015 (EST)
 
I honestly don't expect there to ever be a new Smash Arena [[Special:Contributions/75.141.57.33|75.141.57.33]] 16:08, 17 November 2015 (EST)
 
Let's face it. It's safe to say Smash Arena has been abandoned. <small>[[Special:Contributions/76.5.56.188|76.5.56.188]]</small> 19:08, 1 December 2015 (EST)
:Sign with four (AND ONLY FOUR) tildes (~) please. <small>---Preceding unsigned comment added by [[Special:MyPage|<font color="red">SANTY</font> <font color="green">CLAWS</font>]]! Or maybe [[User:DatNuttyKid|DatNuttyKid]].</small>  17:26, 28 November 2015 (EST)
::Says the person who didn't sign. [[Special:Contributions/76.5.56.188|76.5.56.188]] 19:08, 1 December 2015 (EST)
:::That is their signature... {{User:Nyargleblargle/Sig}} 19:10, 1 December 2015 (EST)
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