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Ladies and gentlemen, welcome, editors and users, to the '''[[SmashWiki:Smash Arena|Smash Arena]]'''! Each week (or two weeks, if the [[SW:SSS|wiki's status]] is high Green or above) this forum hosts a tussle between two characters, items, stages or anything else from the [[Super Smash Bros. (series)|''Super Smash Bros.'' series]]! The winner gets, well, nothing. It's more of a poll but functionally, this is a popularity contest. You may vote for your favorite or who you think would win in an competition between the two combatants that round. No, you don't have to vote for the character with strength & power, or the stage considered more "fair", or the combatant with the most fans - just vote if you are a total fanboy of the participant. So what are you waiting for? Get voting!

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==Round 228: [[Stone]] vs. [[Thunder]]==
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===Votes for ''Stone''===
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#Simply because of all the forms it can take. '''[[User:JamesHeart123|<font color="blue">James</font>]]'''[[File:JH-Heartless.png|15px|link=Special:Contributions/JamesHeart123]]'''[[User talk:JamesHeart123|<font color="orange">Heart</font>]]''' 12:11, 17 May 2014 (EDT)
#As a Kirby mainer, I know how to use Stone effectively. It's very effective when used sparringly, as it will then often catch a chasing opponent off guard and finish them off before they can react. It's also pretty good for edgeguarding in a similar manner. JUST DON'T BE A STONER, KEI? [[User:FirstaLasto|<font color="pink">♡</font>'''Firsta'''Lasto<font color="pink">♥</font>]] 12:18, 17 May 2014 (EDT)
#Am I just paranoid, or am I stoned? <span style="font-family:AR JULIAN; font-size:12pt">[[User:ChuckNorris24|<span style="color:brown">Chuck</span>]][[User talk:ChuckNorris24|<span style="color:brown">Norris</span>]]</span>[[File:24.png|23px]] 12:23, 17 May 2014 (EDT)
# Upward Smash, Perfect Foil - as long as you don't meet the blast line first. Score[[Special:Contributions/ScoreCounter|C]]o[[User:ScoreCounter|u]]n[[User Talk:ScoreCounter|t]]er 13:21, 17 May 2014 (EDT)
# Thunder is the more effective attack, but I like that Kirby has different forms upon using this move. <font face="LuzSans-Book" size="3">[[User:Blue Ninjakoopa|<span style="color:#00008B">blue</span>]] [[User talk:Blue Ninjakoopa|<span style="color:#00008B">ninjakoopa</span>]]</font> 13:58, 17 May 2014 (EDT)
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===Votes for ''Thunder''===
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#[[Thunderspiking|THUNDERSPIKING]]!!!!!! Also, don't think Thunder is useless in Pokemon just because its inaccurate and Thunderbolt is the completely better option, its a underrated move and you need the extra power in Ubers and this thing is 100% accurate when rain comes in. [[User:Dots|<font color="red">'''D'''</font><font color="green">'''o'''</font><font color="blue">'''t'''</font><font color="purple">'''s'''</font>]] ([[User talk:Dots|talk]]) [[File:Link OoT Dots.PNG|16px]] The Windows 12:07, 17 May 2014 (EDT)
#↑ [[User:Scr7|<span style="color:#0000FF"">S</span><span style="color:#7F7FFF">c</span><span style="color:#00FFFF">r</span><span style="color:#FF7F00">7</span>]][[File:Scr7 sig.png|link=]]([[User talk:Scr7|talk]] · [[Special:Contributions/Scr7|contribs]]) 12:11, 17 May 2014 (EDT)
#Stone is meh in both Kirby and Smash, while Thunder is decent in both Pokemon and Smash. [[Special:Contributions/71.116.252.65|71.116.252.65]] 14:13, 17 May 2014 (EDT)
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==Round 227: [[Planet Zebes]] vs. [[Brinstar]] vs. [[Norfair]]==
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|colspan="6" style="background: #dfdfdf; text-align: center" valign="top"|<font size=5>'''Winner!!'''</font><br><font size=3>'''''Norfair'''''</font><br>[[Image:Norfair1.jpg|225x225px|center]]<br><font size=3>''8 to 10 to 20''</font><br>
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===Votes for ''Planet Zebes''===
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#I like the music [[User:Scr7|<span style="color:#0000FF"">S</span><span style="color:#7F7FFF">c</span><span style="color:#00FFFF">r</span><span style="color:#FF7F00">7</span>]][[File:Scr7 sig.png|link=]]([[User talk:Scr7|talk]] · [[Special:Contributions/Scr7|contribs]]) 13:17, 3 May 2014 (EDT)
#^^^ {{s|user|Red}} ([[User talk:Red|talk]]) [[File:RedSig.png|12px|link=Special:Contributions/Red|Special:Contributions/Red]] 14:03, 3 May 2014 (EDT)
#Space? Space?!?! SPAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACE!!!!!!! [[User:Laikue|Laikue]] ([[User talk:Laikue|talk]]) 16:57, 3 May 2014 (EDT)
#Pity vote. [[Special:Contributions/86.172.59.236|86.172.59.236]] 08:24, 4 May 2014 (EDT)
#[[Special:Contributions/180.149.192.133|180.149.192.133]] 19:36, 4 May 2014 (EDT)
#Temporary tie with Brinstar. [[Special:Contributions/75.156.151.217|75.156.151.217]] 02:30, 5 May 2014 (EDT)
#It's the most nostalgic one. Also, what Scr7 said. <span style="font-family:Mario Party 2/3 Textbox">[[User:RickTommy|<span style="color:red">Rick</span>]][[User talk:RickTommy|<span style="color:green">Tommy</span>]]</span> 07:50, 5 May 2014 (EDT)
#I have to agree with Rick it's nostalgic to me.[[User:GoldCoreKid|<span style="color:yellow">GoldCoreKid]] 05:32, 7 May 2014 (EDT)
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===Votes for ''Brinstar''===
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# Lots of fond memories playing this stage [[Special:Contributions/147.69.161.124|147.69.161.124]] 12:33, 3 May 2014 (EDT)
# It has the least annoying hazards. Also, destructable terrain that changes the layout always gives a stage a tactical feel. [[User:FirstaLasto|<font color="pink">♡</font>'''Firsta'''Lasto<font color="pink">♥</font>]] 14:01, 3 May 2014 (EDT)
#I hate all of these stages with a ''burning'' passion, but this is probably the least annoying of the three. <span style="font-family:AR JULIAN; font-size:12pt">[[User:ChuckNorris24|<span style="color:brown">Chuck</span>]][[User talk:ChuckNorris24|<span style="color:brown">Norris</span>]]</span>[[File:24.png|23px]] 14:10, 3 May 2014 (EDT)
#Dat music. Also looks better.[[User:Tepig|Tepig]] ([[User talk:Tepig|talk]]) 15:11, 3 May 2014 (EDT)
#Zebes feels generic and Norfair has too many hazards. So hooray for Brinstar. [[User:Nymbare|<span style="color:#00BFFF">Nymbare</span>]] [[User talk:Nymbare|<span style="color:#00BFFF">and his talk</span>]] 16:15, 3 May 2014 (EDT)
#Cuz iss Melee an Melee iss bessst 4eva /s. <span style="font-family:RAGE ITALIC">[[User:Terrible|<font color="grey">Terrible</font>]] [[User talk:Terrible|<font color="green">is</font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Terrible|<font color="grey">Terrible</font>]]</span> 20:29, 4 May 2014 (EDT)
#Norfair is definitely a great stage, but Brinstar is one of my favourites. It's small with a good placement of platforms, I enjoy jumping through the bottom of the stage, and the acid is not only easy to avoid, but it changes the flow of the game by moving everyone closer together. [[User:ToastUltimatum|<font color="ff8c00">'''Toast'''</font>]] [[File:Wii U Logo Transparent.png|17px]][[User talk:ToastUltimatum|<font color="01a3c4">'''ltimatum'''</font>]] 07:32, 5 May 2014 (EDT)
#I don't have the Nintendo 64 Super Smash Bros., so Planet Zebes is out, since I am less familiar with it. I guess that I like Brinstar and Norfair equally, so I'll have to pick Brinstar because of nostalgia towards Super Smash Bros. Melee. Signed by Mr. Mewtwo. [[Special:Contributions/75.4.226.87|75.4.226.87]] 19:04, 5 May 2014 (EDT)
#--[[User:Myth|<font color="yellow">'''Myth'''</font>]] [[File:Myth Kirby.png|19px|link=User talk:Myth]] 09:21, 9 May 2014 (EDT)
#I liked playing on this stage, and I loved the nostalgic music. [[User:NessFTW2000|Ness da best!]] ([[User talk:NessFTW2000|talk]]) 23:43, 10 May 2014 (EDT)
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===Votes for ''Norfair''===
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#What do you call a Metroid that cheats? '''''[[User:Dr. Pain 99|<font color=navy>D<font color=#190080>o<font color=#310080>c<font color=#490080>t<font color=#620080>o<font color=purple>rP</font>a</font>i</font>n</font>9</font>9</font>]]''''' 13:15, 3 May 2014 (EDT)
#[[User:Dots|<font color="red">'''D'''</font><font color="green">'''o'''</font><font color="blue">'''t'''</font><font color="purple">'''s'''</font>]] ([[User talk:Dots|talk]]) [[File:Link OoT Dots.PNG|16px]] The Metal Gear 14:34, 3 May 2014 (EDT)
#Never played smash 64 and computers act very annoying on Brinstar.[[Special:Contributions/71.106.222.114|71.106.222.114]] 16:34, 3 May 2014 (EDT)
#This is where I saw a Marth player used their Final Smash to charge headfirst into a lava wall. Also lava is fun. --[[Special:Contributions/97.82.197.63|97.82.197.63]] 16:54, 3 May 2014 (EDT)
#I really like how they executed this stage. The other two don't really impress me that much. But that's just me. [[User:Berrenta|Berrenta]] ([[User talk:Berrenta|talk]]) 22:11, 3 May 2014 (EDT)
#I hate playing on the other two stages. Yeah, I'm aware Brinstar is the most "neutral" out of these three. But Norfair is relatively fun for me. Brinstar isn't. --[[User:Timson622222|Timson622222]] ([[User talk:Timson622222|talk]]) 22:31, 3 May 2014 (EDT)
#It has capsules and according to ''Spy Kids 3'' it's molten magma.[[:User:ZeldaStarfoxfan2164|ZeldaStarfoxfan2164]] ([[User talk:ZeldaStarfoxfan2164|talk]]) is bad for me  22:44, 3 May 2014 (EDT)
#Lava > acid. <font face="LuzSans-Book" size="3">[[User:Blue Ninjakoopa|<span style="color:#00008B">blue</span>]] [[User talk:Blue Ninjakoopa|<span style="color:#00008B">ninjakoopa</span>]]</font> 22:48, 3 May 2014 (EDT)
#What ninjakoopa said.[[Special:Contributions/75.85.64.155|75.85.64.155]] 00:39, 4 May 2014 (EDT)
#Because lava. [[Special:Contributions/107.211.34.20|107.211.34.20]] 11:22, 4 May 2014 (EDT)
#It's Norfair. Ridley lives in the depths of Norfair. I like Ridley. So Norfair. [[Special:Contributions/72.106.150.120|72.106.150.120]] 13:43, 4 May 2014 (EDT)
#Norfair is an amazingly fun stage, where its hazards are easily avoided if you know you're doing and you can easily use them to your advantage. I also love taking people who keep picking FD or SV over and over to here, and then watching them fumble around with no idea of what to do. Plus, it's actually a great stage for many lower tier characters, especially Ganon and Bowser, while countering many higher tier characters, especially Snake and ICs. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[Image: TyranitarMS.png ]] 21:23, 4 May 2014 (EDT)
#I agree with Omega. [[User:Bug Man Stan|I will spray bugs lol]] ([[User talk:Bug Man Stan|talk]]) 14:15, 5 May 2014 (EDT)
#there is a giant lava wave going towards people who don't like this stage [[User:Xyle|Xyle]] ([[User talk:Xyle|talk]]) 22:12, 5 May 2014 (EDT)[[User:Xyle]]
#The most creative of them.[[User:TheAtomicFire|<span style="color:orange">TheAtomic</span>]][[User talk:TheAtomicFire|<span style="color:red">Fire</span>]] [[File:BluePichu.png|20x20px]] 16:44, 8 May 2014 (EDT)
#By far the most fun and interesting of them.[[User:Xanthus|Xanthus]] ([[User talk:Xanthus|talk]]) 05:48, 10 May 2014 (EDT)
# 1) It's in Brawl, the best SSB. 2) LAVA!!! 3) YOLO 4) Safety capsules. These are my reasons for voting for this awesome stage. [[User:Harro|Harro]] ([[User talk:Harro|talk]]) 02:53, 11 May 2014 (EDT)
#Lava Lava[[User:MetaMewtwoSoul|<span style="color:#009966">MetaMew</span>]]'''[[User talk:MetaMewtwoSoul|<span style="color:teal">twoSoul</span>]]'''[[File:600px-Yveltal.png|x20px]]' 15:47, 14 May 2014 (EDT)
#Grew up with Brinstar, but I'm a lot better at Norfair. Plus lava>acid [[User:Kenniky|Kenniky]] ([[User talk:Kenniky|talk]]) 21:24, 14 May 2014 (EDT)
#I like how the lava rises and then you have to open the "shelter" (whatever it's called). <span style="font-family:Corbel; font-size:12pt">[[User:Smash Master|<span style="color:darkblue">'''Smash''']] [[User talk:Smash Master|<span style="color:darkgreen">'''Master'''</span>]]</span></span> 11:59, 17 May 2014 (EDT)
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===Comments===
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This really should of been a four-way battle with Planet Zebes vs. Brinstar vs. Norfair vs. Pyrosphere, just saiyan [[User:SamisFusion|SamisFusion]] ([[User talk:SamisFusion|talk]]) 20:15, 3 May 2014 (EDT)
:Well we don't allow any ''Smash 4'' aspects in the Smash Arena until the game is released. [[:User:ZeldaStarfoxfan2164|ZeldaStarfoxfan2164]] ([[User talk:ZeldaStarfoxfan2164|talk]]) is a never lover boy  22:41, 3 May 2014 (EDT)
::Technically that's up to Toomai. (as we've had Megaman vs. WFT vs. Villager) [[User:Laikue|Laikue]] ([[User talk:Laikue|talk]]) 23:27, 3 May 2014 (EDT)
:::That was an exceptional case. Pyrosphere probably wouldn't apply anyway, as there's currently no evidence it has rising lava like the other combatants (the main draw of this fight). [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[Image:Toomai.png|20px|link=User:Toomai/Bin|???]] The Honcho 23:44, 3 May 2014 (EDT)
::::I know, I was just pointing it out. I knew it was a special occasion. [[User:Laikue|Laikue]] ([[User talk:Laikue|talk]]) 00:14, 4 May 2014 (EDT)
Oh dear. Someone seems to have screwed up the Brinstar section. [[User:Nymbare|<span style="color:#00BFFF">Nymbare</span>]] [[User talk:Nymbare|<span style="color:#00BFFF">and his talk</span>]] 10:08, 7 May 2014 (EDT)
:Fixed. {{s|user|Red}} ([[User talk:Red|talk]]) [[File:RedSig.png|12px|link=Special:Contributions/Red|Special:Contributions/Red]] 10:09, 7 May 2014 (EDT)
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