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Ladies and gentlemen, welcome, editors and users, to the '''[[SmashWiki:Smash Arena|Smash Arena]]'''! Each week this forum hosts a tussle between two characters, items, stages or anything else from the [[Super Smash Bros. (series)|''Super Smash Bros.'' series]]! The winner gets, well, nothing. It's more of a poll but functionally, this is a popularity contest. You may vote for your favorite or who you think would win in an competition between the two combatants that round. No, you don't have to vote for the character with strength & power, or the stage considered more "fair", or the combatant with the most fans - just vote if you are a total fanboy of the participant. So what are you waiting for? Get voting! Remember, you don't have to have an account to vote! Though new requests for fights can no longer be made, voting on already existing requests can be done [[Forum:Smash Arena Suggestions|here]].

==The Rules==
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If your vote is not added correctly - specifically, it breaks rules 3, 4, or 5 - you have a short amount of time to fix it (typically between fifteen minutes to an hour). After this time, it may be corrected and moved by any user to the Half-Votes section (adding the [[Template:Unsigned|unsigned template]] if necessary), and it will count as half a vote. Other users should not fix such broken votes without also making them half-votes. Your vote will also be considered a half-vote if your edit causes someone else's valid vote to break one of these rules. Attempting to move your vote out of the Half-Votes section may result in it being worth zero (and subsequently deleted) at an operator's discretion.

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==Round 212: [[Bowser]] vs. [[Petey Piranha]]==
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===Votes for ''Bowser''===
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#[[User:Dots|<font color="red">'''D'''</font><font color="darkorange">'''o'''</font><font color="blue">'''t'''</font><font color="purple">'''s'''</font>]] ([[User talk:Dots|talk]]) [[File:MewtwoMS.png]] The Penguin 13:09, 16 November 2013 (EST)
#MMMMM! God, this is close but I gotta pick the Koopa King. He destroys Mario Kart, has that awesome clown car, and is seriously a powerful guy. Apples to oranges this round, but Bowser prevails. [[User:Oasidu|Oasidu]] ([[User talk:Oasidu|talk]]) 15:34, 16 November 2013 (EST)
#Going for broke here. [[User:Requiem of Ice|Requiem of Ice]] ([[User talk:Requiem of Ice|talk]]) 20:25, 16 November 2013 (EST)
#meh [[Special:Contributions/75.156.151.217|75.156.151.217]] 20:59, 16 November 2013 (EST)
#Cant play as Petey! --[[User:Dinoboy411|Dinoboy411]] ([[User talk:Dinoboy411|talk]]) 00:20, 17 November 2013 (EST)
#This was a close one but Bowser is a classic. [[User:FireMario1534|FireMario1534]] ([[User talk:FireMario1534|talk]]) 00:36, 17 November 2013 (EST)
#Bowser is awesome and I'm more familiar with him[[Special:Contributions/37.106.189.98|37.106.189.98]] 10:48, 17 November 2013 (EST)
#Bowser is a beast. [[User:Sartron|Sartron]] ([[User talk:Sartron|talk]]) 12:44, 17 November 2013 (EST)
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===Votes for ''Petey Piranha''===
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#[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nS7eahAw0oI p] [[User:Scr7|<span style="color:#0000FF"">S</span><span style="color:#7F7FFF">c</span><span style="color:#00FFFF">r</span><span style="color:#FF7F00">7</span>]][[File:Scr7 sig.png|link=]]([[User talk:Scr7|talk]] · [[Special:Contributions/Scr7|contribs]]) 13:13, 16 November 2013 (EST)
#Bowser has no tech skill because he is {{sm|DJ Nintendo}}. (yeah I've really never liked Bowser) --[[User:Timson622222|Timson622222]] ([[User talk:Timson622222|talk]]) 13:23, 16 November 2013 (EST)
#Super Mario Sunshine. nuf' said. [[Special:Contributions/107.211.34.20|107.211.34.20]] 16:33, 16 November 2013 (EST)
#Petey Piranha and King Boo are an awesome duo. [[User:Boo Buddy|<span style="color:#00FF00">Boo</span>]] [[User talk:Boo Buddy|<span style="color:#6ba500">Buddy</span>]] [[File:MeganiumMS.png|x20px|link=]]  16:43, 16 November 2013 (EST) 
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===Comments===
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Bowser is more powerful than Petey!
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==Round 211: [[Dr. Mario]] vs. [[Young Link]]==
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===Votes for ''Dr. Mario''===
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#Always liked him more. He's "better" anyway. c: [[User:Scr7|<span style="color:#0000FF"">S</span><span style="color:#7F7FFF">c</span><span style="color:#00FFFF">r</span><span style="color:#FF7F00">7</span>]][[File:Scr7 sig.png|link=]]([[User talk:Scr7|talk]] · [[Special:Contributions/Scr7|contribs]]) 09:56, 2 November 2013 (EDT)
#The fist. Also, {{Sm|Shroomed}}. Also, I find Dr. Mario to be much much more interesting to watch at high level play, while Armada v.s. Hungrybox as Young Link is campy as hell. I also like playing as Doc better, so why not? --[[User:Timson622222|Timson622222]] ([[User talk:Timson622222|talk]]) 15:54, 2 November 2013 (EDT)
#I'm sick and need a doctor. And how is Young Link different from Link? [[User:SeanWheeler|SeanWheeler]] ([[User talk:SeanWheeler|talk]]) 16:34, 2 November 2013 (EDT)
#Dr. Mario is actually my favorite melee character. I always unlock him first.--[[User:Pichu+Pichu|Pichu+Pichu]] ([[User talk:Pichu+Pichu|talk]]) 17:17, 2 November 2013 (EDT)
#I have no idea how Young Link is higher tiered than Link.[[Special:Contributions/71.118.248.217|71.118.248.217]] 18:02, 2 November 2013 (EDT)
#Because: [[Event 35: Time for a Checkup|Nurse Peach]], [[Megavitamins]], high [[tier list|tier placement]], the series' only reverse [[sex kick]], awesome headgear, a swaggin'-ass [[Taunt]], and that sweet, sweet Fist... :3 [[User:Oasidu|Oasidu]] ([[User talk:Oasidu|talk]]) 23:51, 2 November 2013 (EDT)
#And both are clones of my mains. Dr. Mario is closer to Mario than Young Link is to Toon Link, so I guess I'm voting this way. [[User:ToastUltimatum|<font color="ff8c00">'''Toast'''</font>]] [[File:Wii U Logo Transparent.png|17px]][[User talk:ToastUltimatum|<font color="01a3c4">'''ltimatum'''</font>]] 16:38, 4 November 2013 (EST)
#Meh. I just prefer Doc. [[User:MarioGalaxy|MarioGalaxy]] ([[User talk:MarioGalaxy|talk]]) 13:56, 5 November 2013 (EST)
#For some reason, seems less of a clone to me.[[User:TheAtomicFire|<span style="color:orange">TheAtomic</span>]][[User talk:TheAtomicFire|<span style="color:red">Fire</span>]] [[File:BluePichu.png|20x20px]] 17:51, 6 November 2013 (EST)
#Young Link is the character I play the worst as in Melee. [[Special:Contributions/86.153.101.92|86.153.101.92]] 04:50, 8 November 2013 (EST)
#Dr. Mario was so good they had to take him out of Brawl, whereas Young Link got cloned again! [[User:Jellybeanman|Jellybeanman]] ([[User talk:Jellybeanman|talk]]) 17:37, 8 November 2013 (EST) 
#Dr. Mario and Link are similar; they are (obviously) better than Mario and Young Link, respectively (and they can both juggle better, LOL). Go Dr. Mario! [[User:Requiem fo Ice|Requiem fo Ice]] ([[User talk:Requiem fo Ice|talk]]) 20:15, 8 November 2013 (EST)
#Dr. Mario is higher tier. Plus, I've always been more familiar with the Mario series. So, Dr. M gets my vote.[[Special:Contributions/108.203.57.231|108.203.57.231]] 23:21, 9 November 2013 (EST)
#I like the Mario universe better than the Link universe. [[Special:Contributions/24.55.13.140|24.55.13.140]] 19:52, 10 November 2013 (EST)
#Time for your daily medication! [[Special:Contributions/76.19.111.57|76.19.111.57]] 17:46, 11 November 2013 (EST)
#Dr. Mario kicks, like, multiple asses. [[User:Vuela 44|<span style="color: blue;">'''Vuela Vuela, baby'''</span>]] [[User talk:Vuela 44|''<span style="color: black;">talk</span>'']]  21:26, 11 November 2013 (EST)
#He's my main, the games are great, and Dr. Mario is just a funny concept. --[[File:MMAI.png|link=|19px]][[User:MeMyselfAndI|<span style="color:#FF0000">Me</span>]][[User talk:MeMyselfAndI|Myself]][[Special:Contributions/MeMyselfAndI|<span style="color:#FF00FF">AndI</span>]] 11:47, 14 November 2013 (EST)
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===Votes for ''Young Link''===
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#The Hero of Time is overpowered in speedruns, he can even beat Ganon with a pointed stick. :P [[User:Dots|<font color="red">Do</font>]][[User talk:Dots|<font color="blue">t</font><font color="purple">s</font>]] [[File:MewtwoMS.png]] The G-Man 10:19, 2 November 2013 (EDT)
#[[Special:Contributions/75.156.151.217|75.156.151.217]] 12:34, 2 November 2013 (EDT)
#Dr. Mario The Plumber is not my main on melee, young link the elf is. --[[User:Igor The Mii|Igor The Mii]] ([[User talk:Igor The Mii|talk]]) 19:30, 2 November 2013 (EDT)
#He's way more important in Nintendo's history than Doc. [[User:Sloth|Sloth]] <small>(I am NOT [[Smasher:Sloth|Sloth]])</small> 20:23, 2 November 2013 (EDT)
#Pity vote. [[Special:Contributions/192.197.128.18|192.197.128.18]] 10:41, 4 November 2013 (EST)
#Cute[[Special:Contributions/94.98.240.14|94.98.240.14]] 12:31, 4 November 2013 (EST)
#never played ssbm,but link is better{This message is brought to you by [[User:MetaMewtwoSoul|<span style="color:#009966">MetaMew</span>]]'''[[User talk:MetaMewtwoSoul|<span style="color:teal">twoSoul</span>]]} 16:35, 4 November 2013 (EST)
#Link, no matter what. [[Special:Contributions/107.211.34.20|107.211.34.20]] 20:51, 5 November 2013 (EST)
#[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nHiYTYkqWCE This song is so soothing.] <span style="font-family:AR JULIAN; font-size:12pt">[[User:ChuckNorris24|<span style="color:brown">Chuck</span>]][[User talk:ChuckNorris24|<span style="color:brown">Norris</span>]]</span>[[File:24.png|23px]] 21:03, 5 November 2013 (EST)
#Fire arrows! --[[User:Dinoboy411|Dinoboy411]] ([[User talk:Dinoboy411|talk]]) 21:25, 10 November 2013 (EST)
#Young Link does not seem much of a clone with his fire attacks. [[Special:Contributions/169.204.239.26|169.204.239.26]] 13:56, 12 November 2013 (EST)
#Majora's Mask. Plain and simple. '''[[User:JamesHeart123|<font color="blue">James</font>]]'''[[File:JH-Heartless.png|15px|link=Special:Contributions/JamesHeart123]]'''[[User talk:JamesHeart123|<font color="orange">Heart</font>]]''' 23:48, 13 November 2013 (EST)
#Young Link is an underrated character, I'll vote for him! [[Special:Contributions/75.165.14.119|75.165.14.119]] 04:15, 16 November 2013 (EST)
#Grew up playing as Young Link in Ocarina. [[User:Multus Valde|Multus Valde]] ([[User talk:Multus Valde|talk]]) 09:21, 16 November 2013 (EST)
# [[User:ZeldaStarfoxfan2164|ZeldaStarfoxfan2164]] ([[User talk:ZeldaStarfoxfan2164|talk]]) 11:42, 16 November 2013 (EST)
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Young Link and Dr.Mario are both SUPER clones. But (this time,) I prefer speed over strength.[[User:EpicLuigiDude|EpicLuigiDude]] ([[User talk:EpicLuigiDude|talk]]) 07:40, 3 November 2013 (EST)

There's a decent chance I won't be capable of uploading a new round this week, just so you know. [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[Image:Toomai.png|20px|link=User:Toomai/Bin|???]] The Awesome 08:36, 8 November 2013 (EST)

Dr. Mario is quite the challenge when playing against someone. [[User:Requiem fo Ice|Requiem fo Ice]] ([[User talk:Requiem fo Ice|talk]]) 20:20, 8 November 2013 (EST)
:The comments section is probably not the place to post your opinions. Creating another forum about it is probably the better place. [[User:Dots|<font color="red">'''D'''</font><font color="darkorange">'''o'''</font><font color="blue">'''t'''</font><font color="purple">'''s'''</font>]] ([[User talk:Dots|talk]]) [[File:MewtwoMS.png]] The Kirby 20:24, 8 November 2013 (EST)
::Ah, okay. I will actually change it, then. Thanks for informing me. [[User:Requiem fo Ice|Requiem fo Ice]] ([[User talk:Requiem fo Ice|talk]]) 20:28, 8 November 2013 (EST)

@Requiem of Ice: Young Link is actually ranked higher than Link on the tier list... [[User:Scr7|<span style="color:#0000FF"">S</span><span style="color:#7F7FFF">c</span><span style="color:#00FFFF">r</span><span style="color:#FF7F00">7</span>]][[File:Scr7 sig.png|link=]]([[User talk:Scr7|talk]] · [[Special:Contributions/Scr7|contribs]]) 06:03, 9 November 2013 (EST)
:That was a terrible mistake. I see NOTHING that could make Young Link better than Link. Sure, Young Link may be faster and smaller, but that's just it, nothing else from my POV. [[User:Requiem fo Ice|Requiem fo Ice]] ([[User talk:Requiem fo Ice|talk]]) 12:47, 9 November 2013 (EST)
::I see that it's your opinion though. By the way, Smash Arena isn't for arguments, so we shouldn't continue this. I was just pointing it out [[User:Scr7|<span style="color:#0000FF"">S</span><span style="color:#7F7FFF">c</span><span style="color:#00FFFF">r</span><span style="color:#FF7F00">7</span>]][[File:Scr7 sig.png|link=]]([[User talk:Scr7|talk]] · [[Special:Contributions/Scr7|contribs]]) 12:49, 9 November 2013 (EST)
:::Of course; I did get a bit carried away. [[User:Requiem fo Ice|Requiem fo Ice]] ([[User talk:Requiem fo Ice|talk]]) 13:07, 9 November 2013 (EST)
::::imo I think that YL is higher because of Armada and Axe mostly, not much else (lack of representation is what brings Link down) --[[User:Timson622222|Timson622222]] ([[User talk:Timson622222|talk]]) 16:52, 9 November 2013 (EST)
:::::Well, lack of representation shouldn't really be what makes a character good or bad; it should/always is how people play the characters. Also, have you heard of CCDJMC (crouch cancelled double jump momentum cancel) or anything like that?[[User:Requiem fo Ice|Requiem fo Ice]] ([[User talk:Requiem fo Ice|talk]]) 19:38, 9 November 2013 (EST)

Not to be offensive or anything but I noticed that there are five votes to Young Link that appear quite similar to each other. I can tell because those five users all wrote down "Young Link <insert compliment>." and they all didn't space their signature from their comment text where usually users do space them. Whether it is to inflate the votes to Young Link's side or something, it's suspicious. [[User:Dots|<font color="red">'''D'''</font><font color="darkorange">'''o'''</font><font color="blue">'''t'''</font><font color="purple">'''s'''</font>]] ([[User talk:Dots|talk]]) [[File:MewtwoMS.png]] The Metal Gear REX 19:01, 11 November 2013 (EST)
:Not to mention, all the usernames appear to be one-word red links. [[User:ZeldaStarfoxfan2164|ZeldaStarfoxfan2164]] ([[User talk:ZeldaStarfoxfan2164|talk]]) 22:16, 11 November 2013 (EST)
<s>Whoever casted votes 12, 13, 14, 16, and 17 for Young Link, please read [[SW:SOCK]]. Thanks. [[User:ZeldaStarfoxfan2164|ZeldaStarfoxfan2164]] ([[User talk:ZeldaStarfoxfan2164|talk]]) 22:12, 11 November 2013 (EST)</s> 

Would've been better to report suspected sockpuppetry on the admin noticeboard. [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[Image:Toomai.png|20px|link=User:Toomai/Bin|???]] The Brass 22:19, 11 November 2013 (EST)

When is the new battle coming up? It's already Monday night! [[User:FireMario1534|FireMario1534]] ([[User talk:FireMario1534|talk]]) 07:45, 11 November 2013 (EST)
:Calm down dude. Didn't you just see the post that Toomai said that there is a chance that he won't be be uploading a new round this week? People sometimes need a break from things they always do. [[User:Dots|<font color="red">'''D'''</font><font color="darkorange">'''o'''</font><font color="blue">'''t'''</font><font color="purple">'''s'''</font>]] ([[User talk:Dots|talk]]) [[File:MewtwoMS.png]] The Justice 22:51, 11 November 2013 (EST)
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==Past fights==
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