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Ladies and gentlemen, welcome, editors and users, to the '''[[SmashWiki:Smash Arena|Smash Arena]]'''! Each week (or possibly less often, if the [[SW:SSS|wiki's status]] is high or there's not much voter traffic) this forum hosts a tussle between two (or  sometimes three!) characters, items, stages or anything else from the [[Super Smash Bros. (series)|''Super Smash Bros.'' series]]! The winner gets, well, nothing. It's more of a poll but functionally, this is a popularity contest. You may vote for your favorite or who you think would win in a competition between the two combatants that round. No, you don't have to vote for the character with strength & power, or the stage considered more "fair", or the combatant with the most fans - just vote if you are a total fanboy of the participant. So what are you waiting for? Get voting!
Ladies and gentlemen, welcome, editors and users, to the '''[[SmashWiki:Smash Arena|Smash Arena]]'''! Each week this forum hosts a tussle between two characters, items, stages or anything else from the [[Super Smash Bros. (series)|''Super Smash Bros.'' series]]! The winner gets, well, nothing. It's more of a poll but functionally, this is a popularity contest. You may vote for your favorite or who you think would win in an competition between the two combatants that round. No, you don't have to vote for the character with strength & power, or the stage considered more "fair", or the combatant with the most fans - just vote if you are a total fanboy of the participant. So what are you waiting for? Get voting! Remember, you don't have to have an account to vote! Though new requests for fights can no longer be made, voting on already existing requests can be done [[Forum:Smash Arena Suggestions|here]].


==The Rules==
==The Rules==
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#**Similarly, avoid writing votes that may invite an argument. Stating your opinion is fine, but don't make it easy for others to see it as goading.
#**Similarly, avoid writing votes that may invite an argument. Stating your opinion is fine, but don't make it easy for others to see it as goading.


If your vote is not added correctly - specifically, it breaks rules 3, 4, or 5 - you have a short amount of time to fix it (typically between fifteen minutes to an hour). After this time, it may be corrected and moved by any user to the Half-Votes section (adding the [[Template:Unsigned|unsigned template]] if necessary), and it will count as half a vote. Other users should not fix such broken votes without also making them half-votes. Your vote will also be considered a half-vote if your edit causes someone else's valid vote to break one of these rules. Attempting to move your vote out of the Half-Votes section may result in it being worth zero (and subsequently deleted) at an operator's discretion.
If your vote is not added correctly - specifically, it breaks rules 3, 4, or 5 - you have a short amount of time to fix it (typically between fifteen minutes to an hour). After this time, it may be corrected and moved by any user to the Half-Votes section (adding the [[Template:Unsigned|unsigned template]] if necessary), and it will count as half a vote. Users should not fix such broken votes without making them half-votes. Your vote will also be considered a half-vote if your edit causes someone else's valid vote to break one of these rules. Attempting to move your vote out of the Half-Votes section may result in it being worth zero at an operator's discretion.


Multiple votes in a round are not allowed; attempts to circumvent this with [[sockpuppet]]s will result in all your votes being deleted, and is a blockable offense. Probated users who attempt to circumvent their probation with sockpuppets are also committing a blockable offense and will have their vote discounted. Remember that admins have access to CheckUser to check the IPs of any user, and will use it when sockpuppetry is suspected.
Multiple votes are not allowed; attempts to circumvent this with [[sockpuppet]]s will result in your vote being discounted entirely, and is a blockable offense. Probated users who attempt to circumvent their probation with sockpuppets are also committing a blockable offense and will have their vote discounted. Remember that admins have access to CheckUser to check the IPs of any user, and will use it when sockpuppetry is suspected.


Intentional half-votes undermine the intent of the half-vote system as a way to punish voters for voting incorrectly. It is legal to want a vote to be worth half, but it is very heavily discouraged, and you must state in your vote you want it to be worth half. If you put your vote in the half-votes section without stating reasons why you want it there, it is worth zero and may be deleted by any user. You may replace it later should you do it correctly.
Intentional half-votes undermine the intent of the half-vote system as a way to punish voters for voting incorrectly. It is legal to want a vote to be worth half, but it is very heavily discouraged, and you must state in your vote you want it to be worth half. If you put your vote in the half-votes section without stating reasons why you want it there, it is worth zero and may be deleted by any user. You may replace it later should you do it correctly.
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Above all, remember that '''voting in the Smash Arena is a privilege, not a right'''. In the vein of [[SW:NOT|what SmashWiki is not]], you are expected to at least attempt reasonable contributions to the wiki if you wish to retain your privilege to participate.
Above all, remember that '''voting in the Smash Arena is a privilege, not a right'''. In the vein of [[SW:NOT|what SmashWiki is not]], you are expected to at least attempt reasonable contributions to the wiki if you wish to retain your privilege to participate.


==Round 257: [[Mushroom Kingdom II]] vs. [[Magicant]]==
=Round 200: Multi-Perennial Bicentennial=
==[[Ganondorf]] vs. [[Mewtwo]]==
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|style="width:100%; background:#dfdfdf; padding:5px" colspan="6"|One, the King of the Gerudos, the one man in a century that will do anything to get his people out of the desolate desert. The other, a manmade freak of nature, a wandering one-of-a-kind species with no sense of purpose. Both commanding supernatural forces and willing to call upon the dark side of it when necessary - who wins this multifaceted throwdown?
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===Votes for ''Ganondorf''===
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#I like Ganon. <span style="font-family:Triforce, sans-serif;">'''[[User:Dr. Pain 99|<font color=#008000>D<font color=#008019>o<font color=#008031>c<font color=#008049>t<font color=#008062>o<font color=#008080>rP</font>a</font>i</font>n</font>9</font>9</font>]]'''</span> 23:21, 16 August 2013 (EDT)
#He's so great, he can beat anybody in ''Melee'', the best character of all, and I enjoy him and is better than the rest. <span style="font-family: Sonic XBd BT; font-size: 12pt"> [[User:Conny|<font color="black">Con</font>]][[User talk:Conny|<font color="gray">ny</font>]] [[File:Airconny Snake Sig.png|20px]] </span> 23:27, 16 August 2013 (EDT)
#[[Special:Contributions/75.156.151.217|75.156.151.217]] 00:18, 17 August 2013 (EDT)
#[[User:Chuck the Duck|Chuck the Duck]] ([[User talk:Chuck the Duck|talk]]) 00:52, 17 August 2013 (EDT)
#Ganonbrawl is one of the most fun characters to play as in the history of Smash. [[User:ToastUltimatum|{{Color|#ff8c00|'''Toast'''}}]] [[File:Wii U Logo Transparent.png|17px|link=Special:Contributions/ToastUltimatum]][[User talk:ToastUltimatum|{{Color|#01a3c4|'''ltimatum'''}}]][[File:Transparent Swadloon.png|26px]] 10:26, 18 August 2013 (EDT)
# Never was a big fan of Pokemon [[User:Multus Valde|Multus Valde]] ([[User talk:Multus Valde|talk]]) 18:54, 20 August 2013 (EDT)
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===Votes for ''Mewtwo''===
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#Mewtwo was the first character I ever played in ''Smash Bros.'', so there's a lot of sentimental value there. --[[User:Timson622222|Timson622222]] ([[User talk:Timson622222|talk]]) 23:33, 16 August 2013 (EDT)
#Because of my sig icon. [[User:Dots|<font color="red">Do</font>]][[User talk:Dots|<font color="blue">t</font><font color="purple">s</font>]] [[File:MewtwoMS.png]] The Gangnum Style 23:38, 16 August 2013 (EDT)
#Mewtwo is among my favorite fictional characters of all time. Also, I want to let others know I cleared The Showdown as Mewtwo. Not kidding![[Special:Contributions/71.105.121.171|71.105.121.171]] 00:06, 17 August 2013 (EDT)
#Although not great in-game, I want him back in Smash. --<span style="background-color: black; border:3px solid blue; border-radius:10px 30px 30px 10px;">[[User:Lasifer|ﾚ∆ㄅ]]</span> <span style="background-color: #000000; box-shadow: 0px 0px 10px #461B7E; border-radius:10px;"> [[File:MaskedManSignatureSprite.PNG|link=User talk:Lasifer]]</span> 00:35, 17 August 2013 (EDT)
#Growing up, I would constantly go to my friend's house to play Melee. My friend lacked a memory card for his GameCube, and thus it was impossible to save any unlocked characters. A visit to my cousin one day enlightened me to the full extent of the Melee cast. Imagine my surprise to see Mewtwo! I COULD PLAY AS MEWTWO! I still remember my first encounter with Mewtwo in my first Pokemon game. Even though he wasn't that great, the fact of the matter is that this was a much simpler time; No tier list, no competition, just simple and friendly games, where I could play as one of my favorite Pokemon. Sold. '''''[[User:HavocReaper48|<span style="color:GOLDENROD; font-family:envirod;">--HavocReaper</span>]][[User talk:HavocReaper48|<span style="color:GOLD; font-family:envirod;">48</span>]]''''' 01:01, 17 August 2013 (EDT)
#Mewtwo is certainly a very fun character to play as. [[User:Boo Buddy|<font style="color:black">Boo</font>]] [[User talk:Boo Buddy|<font style="color:black">Buddy</font>]][[File:Haunter MS.png|19px]] 03:35, 17 August 2013 (EDT)
#Quite simply my favourite Pokémon of all-time. [[Special:Contributions/86.160.20.78|86.160.20.78]] 06:56, 17 August 2013 (EDT)
#I never really use ganondorf.[[User:TheAtomicFire|<span style="color:orange">TheAtomic</span>]][[User talk:TheAtomicFire|<span style="color:red">Fire</span>]] [[File:BluePichu.png|20x20px]] 08:36, 17 August 2013 (EDT)
#Because I spent countless hours trying to unlock him. <span style="font-family:AR JULIAN; font-size:12pt">[[User:ChuckNorris24|<span style="color:brown">Chuck</span>]][[User talk:ChuckNorris24|<span style="color:brown">Norris</span>]]</span>[[File:24.png|23px]]  09:43, 17 August 2013 (EDT)
#I love the movie with Mew-two in it.Plus he's a good fighter in Melee. [[Special:Contributions/75.156.151.215|75.156.151.215]] 10:16 17 August 2013
#I always loved playing as Mewtwo. He was a completely different type of character in Melee while Ganondorf is a clone of Captain Falcon.[[Special:Contributions/24.45.189.29|24.45.189.29]] 10:49, 17 August 2013 (EDT)
#I like Mewtwo more. [[User:Scr7|<font style="color:#0000FF">S</font>]][[User talk:Scr7|<font style="color:#7F7FFF">c</font>]][[Special:Contributions/Scr7|<font style="color:#00FFFF">r</font>]][[Special:Editcount/Scr7|<font style="color:#FF7F00">7</font>]][[File:Wolfsig.png|19px|link=Special:PrefixIndex/User:Scr7]] 12:02, 17 August 2013 (EDT)
#Mewtwo has got to be the best character in my opinion in Melee personality wise. I hate a majority of his special moves, but his recovery, forward aerial, and neutral special are all just so versatile. [[User:Washi|<font style="color:#FF0000">Wa</font>]][[User talk:Washi|<font style="color:#00FF00">shi</font>]][[File:Washi signature.png|19px]] 13:46, 17 August 2013 (EDT)
#For me, this all comes down to who I like more in Smash King...and Mew-senpai is actually significantly less of an ass.<span style="font-family:Sketch1">[[User:MegiBeelzebub|<span style="color:green">Megi</span>]][[User talk:MegiBeelzebub|<span style="color:black">Beelzebub</span>]]</span> [[File:MegiBeelzebub.png|19px]] 13:54, 17 August 2013 (EDT)
#Underestimated, underappreciated... Bring him back! <span style="font-family: AR DARLING; font-size: 12pt"> [[User:DarkFox01|{{Color|black|Dark}}]][[User talk:DarkFox01|{{Color|darkred|Fox}}]][[Special:Contributions/DarkFox01|{{Color|red|01}}]]</span>[[File:DF01Sig.png|19px]]Choose your character! 13:57, 17 August 2013 (EDT)
#Because ''Pokémon'', plain and simple. '''[[User:JamesHeart123|<font color="blue">James</font>]]'''[[File:JH-Heartless.png|15px|link=Special:Contributions/JamesHeart123]]'''[[User talk:JamesHeart123|<font color="orange">Heart</font>]]''' 14:04, 17 August 2013 (EDT)
#I hate his new form but the old one is boss. <span style="font-family:RAGE ITALIC">[[User:Terrible|<span style="color:grey">Terrible</span>]] [[User talk:Terrible|<span style="color:green">is</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Terrible|<span style="color:grey">Terrible</span>]]</span> 15:05, 17 August 2013 (EDT)
#Favorite legendary.[[Special:Contributions/75.31.4.16|75.31.4.16]] 00:33, 18 August 2013 (EDT)
#Ganondorf SUCKS. --[[User:LavaKirby|<span style="color: red;">'''Lava'''</span>]][[User talk:LavaKirby|<span style="color: orange;">'''Kirby'''</span>]] 16:57, 18 August 2013 (EDT)
#Pokemon.  End of story. [[User:Bulbaking|Bulbaking]] ([[User talk:Bulbaking|talk]]) 14:32, 19 August 2013 (EDT)
#Dat Up Throw. <font style="font-family:arial narrow">[[User:LightningBlue|<font style="color:royalblue">'''Lightning'''</font>]][[User talk:LightningBlue|<font style="color:darkblue">'''Blue'''</font>]]</font>[[File:405MS.png|link=Special:Contributions/LightningBlue]] 23:03, 19 August 2013 (EDT)
#I use him on my Ubers team. [[User:Mr. Anon|<font color="grey">'''Mr. '''</font><font color="midnightblue">'''Anon'''</font>]][[File:Anon.png|23px|link=Special:Random]] [[User talk:Mr. Anon|''<span style="color: black;">talk</span>'']]  22:15, 21 August 2013 (EDT)
#I haven't played Mewtwo or melee, but ganondorf is just.. meh. [[User:Cobravictim|Cobravictim]] ([[User talk:Cobravictim|talk]]) 11:43, 22 August 2013 (EDT)
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The brown background for Ganondorf makes it really hard to see :/ [[User:Ac2k|<span style="color: red;">'''Awesome'''</span>]] [[User talk:Ac2k|<span style="color: red;">'''Cardinal'''</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Ac2k|<span style="color: red;">'''2000'''</span>]] 21:48, 18 August 2013 (EDT)
:Just highlight the text :P [[User:Scr7|<font style="color:#0000FF">S</font>]][[User talk:Scr7|<font style="color:#7F7FFF">c</font>]][[Special:Contributions/Scr7|<font style="color:#00FFFF">r</font>]][[Special:Editcount/Scr7|<font style="color:#FF7F00">7</font>]][[File:Wolfsig.png|19px|link=Special:PrefixIndex/User:Scr7]] 15:06, 19 August 2013 (EDT)
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==[[Corneria]] vs. [[Venom]]==
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|colspan="2" style="background:#dfdfdf; text-align:center" valign="top"|<font size=5>'''Winner!!'''</font><br><font size=3>'''''Magicant'''''</font><br>[[Image:SSB4 Magicant.jpg|225x225px|center]]<br><font size=3>''45 to 48''</font><br>
|colspan="2" style="background:#dfdfdf; text-align:center" valign="top"|<font size=5>'''Winner!!'''</font><br><font size=3>'''''undecided'''''</font><br><br><font size=3>''~ to ~''</font><br>
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===Votes for ''Mushroom Kingdom II''===
===Votes for ''Corneria''===
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:<s>1. Wow, who'd have thought that I would ever vote for a Melee stage over a Smash 4 stage? Unfortunately for Magicant, I just find the stage to be ugly and weird looking. It probably doesn't help that it runs on the 3DS but it doesn't look appealing to me in the slightest. On the other hand who can't love the design of a stage inspired by the classic Super Mario Bros. NES series itself? ''[[User:Trainer Alex|<span style="color: blue;">'''Alex'''</span>]] the [[User talk:Trainer Alex|<span style="color: red;">'''Jigglypuff trainer'''</span>]]'' 10:48, 2 June 2018 (EDT)</s>
#I like Corneria. <span style="font-family:Triforce, sans-serif;">'''[[User:Dr. Pain 99|<font color=#008000>D<font color=#008019>o<font color=#008031>c<font color=#008049>t<font color=#008062>o<font color=#008080>rP</font>a</font>i</font>n</font>9</font>9</font>]]'''</span> 23:21, 16 August 2013 (EDT)
#I ''hate'' Magicant with a passion. Going with the obvious better option. A classic too. [[User:KirbysCrazyAppetite|Kirby's Crazy Appetite]] ~ [[File:KirbysCrazyAppetiteSig.png|50x20px]] 12:48, 2 June 2018 (EDT)
#Corneria isn't the most balanced of stages, but at least it's fun to play on, especially for free-for-all four-player smashing. Venom is small and feels cramped while still being imbalanced. --[[User:Timson622222|Timson622222]] ([[User talk:Timson622222|talk]]) 23:33, 16 August 2013 (EDT)
#Mushroom Kingdom II = ''Super Mario Bros. 2''! [[User:Dragonfirebreath25|Dragonfirebreath25]] ([[User talk:Dragonfirebreath25|talk]]) 12:52, 2 June 2018 (EDT)
#SNES Corneria music. [[User:Dots|<font color="red">Do</font>]][[User talk:Dots|<font color="blue">t</font><font color="purple">s</font>]] [[File:MewtwoMS.png]] The Gangnum Style 23:38, 16 August 2013 (EDT)
#[[:User:ZeldaStarfoxfan2164|ZeldaStarfoxfan2164]] ([[User talk:ZeldaStarfoxfan2164|talk]]) is a never lover boy  20:56, 2 June 2018 (EDT)
#More running space.[[Special:Contributions/71.105.121.171|71.105.121.171]] 00:06, 17 August 2013 (EDT)
#The only correct answer is Mushroom Kingdom II. [[User:Pokebub|Pokebub]] ([[User talk:Pokebub|talk]]) 01:36, 4 June 2018 (EDT)
#Great stage. --<span style="background-color: black; border:3px solid blue; border-radius:10px 30px 30px 10px;">[[User:Lasifer|ﾚ∆ㄅ]]</span> <span style="background-color: #000000; box-shadow: 0px 0px 10px #461B7E; border-radius:10px;"> [[File:MaskedManSignatureSprite.PNG|link=User talk:Lasifer]]</span> 00:34, 17 August 2013 (EDT)
#Magicant is just weird. [[User:Awesomelink234|<span style="font-size:10pt;background:#00FF20;border:outset #083 2px;padding:1px 3px;color:#050DF7">Awesomelink234, the Super Cool Sonic Fan</span>]] [[User talk:Awesomelink234|Leave a message if needed]] 08:41, 4 June 2018 (EDT)
#More blandaced. [[User:Chuck the Duck|Chuck the Duck]] ([[User talk:Chuck the Duck|talk]]) 00:52, 17 August 2013 (EDT)
#This one's pretty close because I like trolling people with Flying Man, but this was my favorite Melee stage so nostalgia beats trolling. [[User:TheNuttyOne|TheNuttyOne]] 14:41, 7 June 2018 (EDT)
#Corneria's the better planet...and stage. [[Special:Contributions/86.160.20.78|86.160.20.78]] 06:56, 17 August 2013 (EDT)
#Magicent's a cool stage, but I have no real relation with the ''Earthbound'' series. ''Super Mario Bros. 2'' is a good game. But speaking in terms of stages, Mushroom Kingdom II has more room to move around, no assist characters that will gang up on you (Birdo's only slightly annoying), and I like the Pidget. [[User:Alex95|Alex95]] ([[User talk:Alex95|talk]]) 21:07, 8 June 2018 (EDT)
#This stage is actually pretty unique compared to the other one. Also I find it more enjoyable. ----- [[User:Conanshinichi|Conan]][[User talk:Conanshinichi|shinichi]]  08:32, 17 August 2013 (EDT)
#I'm a sucker for nostalgia, plus I like this stage better anyway, so... yeah. <span style="font-family:Corbel; font-size:12pt">[[User:Smash Master|<span style="color:darkblue">'''Smash''']] [[User talk:Smash Master|<span style="color:darkgreen">'''Master'''</span>]]</span></span> 15:22, 9 June 2018 (EDT)
#I don't like the design of sector z.[[User:TheAtomicFire|<span style="color:orange">TheAtomic</span>]][[User talk:TheAtomicFire|<span style="color:red">Fire</span>]] [[File:BluePichu.png|20x20px]]
#I like Melee... and Mario... [[Special:Contributions/54.175.143.180|54.175.143.180]] 21:39, 30 June 2018 (EDT)
#DO A BARREL ROLL! <span style="font-family:AR JULIAN; font-size:12pt">[[User:ChuckNorris24|<span style="color:brown">Chuck</span>]][[User talk:ChuckNorris24|<span style="color:brown">Norris</span>]]</span>[[File:24.png|23px]] 09:43, 17 August 2013 (EDT)
#It's very close for me,  but I gotta go with MKII. it's such a throwback, I gotta go for it. Sorry Magicant. [[User:Dakota.952|Dakota.952]] [[User talk:Dakota.952]] 17:00, 8 July 2018 (EDT)
#This one is sooo much more enjoyable! [[Special:Contributions/75.156.151.215|75.156.151.215]] 10:13 17 August 2013
#For me it's either a game I have never played or a series I don't care about. That and I'm a big Mario fan. [[User:CaptainGamer|Captain Gamer]] ([[User talk:CaptainGamer|talk]]) 13:06, 16 July 2018 (EDT)
#More fun to play on IMO. [[User:Scr7|<font style="color:#0000FF">S</font>]][[User talk:Scr7|<font style="color:#7F7FFF">c</font>]][[Special:Contributions/Scr7|<font style="color:#00FFFF">r</font>]][[Special:Editcount/Scr7|<font style="color:#FF7F00">7</font>]][[File:Wolfsig.png|19px|link=Special:PrefixIndex/User:Scr7]] 12:02, 17 August 2013 (EDT)
#mario bros. 2 is my choice for best nes game and this level captures my first experiences with the game [[User:XVI|XVI]] ([[User talk:XVI|talk]]) 18:33, 20 July 2018 (EDT)
#This is my favorite starting place I like to fight most in Melee. (aside from Temple.) I really don't know why, I just love it here. [[User:Washi|<font style="color:#FF0000">Wa</font>]][[User talk:Washi|<font style="color:#00FF00">shi</font>]][[File:Washi signature.png|19px]] 13:46, 17 August 2013 (EDT)
#Even though I am a fan of Magicant because of the universe its in, Mushroom Kingdom II is just... better. In every way. [[User:Kbimbatti22|Kbimbatti22]] ([[User talk:Kbimbatti22|talk]]) 13:22, 25 July 2018 (EDT)l
#My favorite banned stage in all 3 of the games so far. I love how it builds on the crappy Sector Z and makes the concept awesome. <span style="font-family: AR DARLING; font-size: 12pt"> [[User:DarkFox01|{{Color|black|Dark}}]][[User talk:DarkFox01|{{Color|darkred|Fox}}]][[Special:Contributions/DarkFox01|{{Color|red|01}}]]</span>[[File:DF01Sig.png|19px]]Choose your character! 13:57, 17 August 2013 (EDT)
#I like Magicant because it seems weird, BUT in this matchup Mushroom Kingdom II is better. It's more refined, stable and easier to play. Long live Ultimate. [[User:Sparkwave|Sparkwave]] ([[User talk:Sparkwave|talk]]) 12:06, 17 August 2018 (EDT)
#I actually like how this stage is as fun to play on as it is to look at. Plus, it isn't a Doom map look-a-like.<span style="font-family:Sketch1">[[User:MegiBeelzebub|<span style="color:green">Megi</span>]][[User talk:MegiBeelzebub|<span style="color:black">Beelzebub</span>]]</span> [[File:MegiBeelzebub.png|19px]] 14:00, 17 August 2013 (EDT)
#I don't know what to say [[User:Sammybambam11|Sammybambam11]] ([[User talk:Sammybambam11|talk]]) 14:25, 10 August 2018 (EDT)
#It was the first stage I ever played on in Melee and it has epic music. Definitely voting for Corneria. [[Special:Contributions/110.174.90.69|110.174.90.69]] 22:59, 17 August 2013 (EDT)
#Playing on Mario stages in Smash for me is an absolute treat, plus the retro-sounding music gives off so much nostalgia. Sorry Magicant, you're cool, but not as good as one of Mr. Video Game's home stages! [[File:SSB4DarkSonicHead.png|17px|link=User:SonicSpeed48]][[User talk:SonicSpeed48|<font color="navyblue">''Speed'''''48'''</font>]] 20:40, 20 August 2018 (EDT)
#Backed into a corner, I finally voted for Venom. Its music that is. Corneria wins because of the background and its presence in Brawl. [[User:ToastUltimatum|{{Color|#ff8c00|'''Toast'''}}]] [[File:Wii U Logo Transparent.png|17px|link=Special:Contributions/ToastUltimatum]][[User talk:ToastUltimatum|{{Color|#01a3c4|'''ltimatum'''}}]][[File:Transparent Swadloon.png|26px]] 10:26, 18 August 2013 (EDT)
#I think Mushroom Kingdom II is a much bigger throwback to the classics. Sorry Magicant! [[User talk:RetroPika|<font color="yellow">RetroPika</font>]][[File:PikachuHeadSSB.png|17px]] 03:29, 8 September 2018 (EDT)
#I hate Corneria, but I hate Venom more. --[[User:LavaKirby|<span style="color: red;">'''Lava'''</span>]][[User talk:LavaKirby|<span style="color: orange;">'''Kirby'''</span>]] 16:56, 18 August 2013 (EDT)
#Mushroom kingdom is superior. Sorry, earthbound fans! [[User:NicoNiconii|NicoNiconii]] ([[User talk:NicoNiconii|talk]]) 11:16, 2 November 2018 (EDT) NicoNiconii, November 2, 2018, 11:16 AM EST
#I've played on Corneria more.  I know it better. [[User:Bulbaking|Bulbaking]] ([[User talk:Bulbaking|talk]]) 14:34, 19 August 2013 (EDT)  
#I've never played Earthbound so I'll cast my vote here. --[[Special:Contributions/203.128.94.27|203.128.94.27]] 10:29, 3 November 2018 (EDT)
#Corneria returned in SSBB and I played that game before SSBM so I didn't play in Venom until I got the gamecube emulator so I played Corneria more[[Special:Contributions/31.9.47.115|31.9.47.115]] 11:39, 22 August 2013 (EDT)
#I am a HUGE Mario fan, and Magicant is very... odd. Go Mushroom Kingdom! Also, the music rocks:)[[User:Super Eli|Super Eli]] ([[User talk:Super Eli|talk]]) 04:51, 6 November 2018 (EST)
#I like getting on top of the flying shooting jets :P [[User:Cobravictim|Cobravictim]] ([[User talk:Cobravictim|talk]]) 11:44, 22 August 2013 (EDT)
#--[[Special:Contributions/14.199.84.205|14.199.84.205]] 09:47, 10 November 2018 (EST)
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#Here I am. [[User:UltimateWoomy|UltimateWoomy]] ([[User talk:UltimateWoomy|talk]]) 22:55, 11 November 2018 (EST)
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#[[Super Mario Bros. 2]] is quite underrated so this stage is pretty cool for representing  that game, plus it’s coming back to Ultimate.[[Magicant]]’s a pretty good stage too [[Special:Contributions/174.55.24.64|174.55.24.64]] 13:44, 15 November 2018 (EST)
#I MADE UP MY MIND! [[User:BESTIDIOTEVER|BESTIDIOTEVER]] ([[User talk: BESTIDIOTEVER|talk]]) 22:43, 25 November 2018 (EST)
#Magican't win! [[User:RK50||RK50]] ([[User talk: RK50|talk]]) 21:16, 15 December 2018 (EST)
#It's the obvious choice to go with the face of gaming's sequel! Johnson T. Shy Guy 17:36, 19 December (EDT)
#The song has been stuck in my head all day, so I can't not vote this. [[Special:Contributions/63.224.129.183|63.224.129.183]] 15:34, 23 January 2019 (EST)
#The hazards and stuff are much more creative. Are there even any in Magicant? [[Special:Contributions/KingKRool26|KingKRool26]] 8:00, 14 February 2019 (EST)
#I vote for Mushroom Kingdom II becuase overall I think it looks better as a stage then Magicant. 8:56 AM 18 February 2019 (CST)
#Mushroom Kingdom II is overall a much better stage to fight on, despite the fact it's a walk-off stage. And there's no Flying Man. 2:43 PM, 4 March 2019 (EST)
#I like Mario. And Magicant sounds too much like Magic can't. [[Special:Contributions/50.43.56.91|50.43.56.91]] 19:30, April 11, 2019 (EDT)
#''A-sla-a-sla-a-sla-tte-ry...'' When I was young, not only did I make up the aforementioned lyrics for the ''SMB2'' theme's opening notes, but I wrote an unintentional self-insert fanfic based on ''SMB2''. <span style="font-family:Mario Party 2/3 Textbox">[[User:RickTommy|<span style="color:red">Rick</span>]][[User talk:RickTommy|<span style="color:green">Tommy</span>]]</span> 01:24, April 25, 2019 (EDT)
#I love retro stages, Magicant is camping galore as well, soooooo[[User:Azantix|Azantix]] ([[User talk:Azantix|talk]]) 11:52, June 24, 2019 (EDT)
#Magicant made a level 9 Luigi look dumb.[[User:Snorlax TheGreat|Snorlax TheGreat]] ([[User talk:Snorlax TheGreat|talk]]) 08:15, July 5, 2019 (EDT)
#--[[User:Doggieboy9|Doggieboy9]] ([[User talk:Doggieboy9|talk]]) 13:08, July 5, 2019 (EDT)
#I prefer beating up Birdo over getting beat up by Chicken Man[[Special:Contributions/198.98.24.19|198.98.24.19]] 19:23, September 3, 2019 (EDT)
#I prefer Mushroom Kingdom II because I am a Mario Fan.[[User:Crocodile Dippy 2|Crocodile Dippy 2]] ([[User talk:Crocodile Dippy 2|talk]]) 14:14, September 11, 2019 (EDT)
#Jesus this hasn't been updated in a while...but yeah Magicant sucks. '''Your Senpai,''' [[User:Iron Warrior|<span style="color: red;">'''Iron'''</span>]] [[User talk:Iron Warrior|<span style="color: cyan;">'''Warrior'''</span>]] 12:13, November 20, 2019 (EST)
#everything is better than flying man lol[[User:Stelgard M|Stelgard M]] ([[User talk:Stelgard M|talk]]) 17:24, December 25, 2019 (EST)
#Clearly, Flying Man is way to OP and unfair for the others when someone grabs him. I destroyed someone much better than me using him. They should trash either him or the stage. As for Mushroom Kingdom II, I have nothing against it. [[User:Mario Kart 7 Rules|Mario Kart 7 Rules]] ([[User talk:Mario Kart 7 Rules|talk]]) 12:37, March 2, 2020 (EST)


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===Votes for ''Venom''===
#I’m just a sucker for Mario stages. Besides, who doens’t love the feeling of extreme nostalgia. <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:MarioFighter64|MarioFighter64]] ([[User talk:MarioFighter64|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/MarioFighter64|contribs]]) 20:02, 20 August 2018 (EDT)</small>
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#I feel that it looks a lot cleaner than Magicant. It looks better. <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:Cassinator|Cassinator]] ([[User talk:Cassinator|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Cassinator|contribs]]) 20:55, 10 December 2018 (EST)</small>
#More platforms mean this is by far the best stage in ''Melee'' and is the best stage I have ever seen in my life. <span style="font-family: Sonic XBd BT; font-size: 12pt"> [[User:Conny|<font color="black">Con</font>]][[User talk:Conny|<font color="gray">ny</font>]] [[File:Airconny Snake Sig.png|20px]] </span> 23:27, 16 August 2013 (EDT)
#MKII FTW! <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:180.191.158.100|180.191.158.100]] ([[User talk:180.191.158.100|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/180.191.158.100|contribs]]) 23:54, 17 December 2018 (EST)</small>
#[[Special:Contributions/75.156.151.217|75.156.151.217]] 00:18, 17 August 2013 (EDT)
# Birdo is a better trophy than Flying Man in my opinion. <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:BowserIsBroken|BowserIsBroken]] ([[User talk:BowserIsBroken|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/BowserIsBroken]]) 18:58, 21 February 2019 (EST) </small>
#I was disappointed to not see this stage return for Brawl. '''''[[User:HavocReaper48|<span style="color:GOLDENROD; font-family:envirod;">--HavocReaper</span>]][[User talk:HavocReaper48|<span style="color:GOLD; font-family:envirod;">48</span>]]''''' 01:01, 17 August 2013 (EDT)
#i love this stage, I think it's a very interesting idea, but mostly, I just don't like the flying man from magicant.[[User:SpiritSquirtle|SpiritSquirtle]] ([[User talk:SpiritSquirtle|talk]]) 18:36, September 22, 2019 (EDT)
#I do not like either of these stages, but I pick this one because the Arwings are much less annoying. [[User:Boo Buddy|<font style="color:black">Boo</font>]] [[User talk:Boo Buddy|<font style="color:black">Buddy</font>]][[File:Haunter MS.png|19px]] 03:35, 17 August 2013 (EDT)
#MushroomKingdom Because I'ts One Of My Favorite Battle Stages, But I Have Respects To Magicant. <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:Super Kirby X|Super Kirby X]] ([[User talk:Super Kirby X|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Super Kirby X|contribs]]) 1:00 29, September 24</small>
#I'll vote based on music. '''[[User:JamesHeart123|<font color="blue">James</font>]]'''[[File:JH-Heartless.png|15px|link=Special:Contributions/JamesHeart123]]'''[[User talk:JamesHeart123|<font color="orange">Heart</font>]]''' 14:04, 17 August 2013 (EDT)
#Mario is my childhood. I also have never heard of magicant. <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:64.90.137.2|64.90.137.2]] ([[User talk:64.90.137.2|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/64.90.137.2|contribs]]) 14:26, October 30, 2019</small>
#The music is stuck in my head! <span style="font-family:RAGE ITALIC">[[User:Terrible|<span style="color:grey">Terrible</span>]] [[User talk:Terrible|<span style="color:green">is</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Terrible|<span style="color:grey">Terrible</span>]]</span> 15:05, 17 August 2013 (EDT)
#Couldn't care less about the other one. --[[User:lucina-is-better-than-marth]] <!--Not signed properly-->
#[[Special:Contributions/75.31.4.16|75.31.4.16]] 00:34, 18 August 2013 (EDT)
#I like melee better, so Mushroom Kingdom 2 for me. [[Special:Contributions/80.155.164.74|80.155.164.74]] 04:50, September 24, 2019 (EDT) <!--Improper formatting (no #'s)-->
#Somewhat unique. [[User:Mr. Anon|<font color="grey">'''Mr. '''</font><font color="midnightblue">'''Anon'''</font>]][[File:Anon.png|23px|link=Special:Random]][[User talk:Mr. Anon|''<span style="color: black;">talk</span>'']]  22:15, 21 August 2013 (EDT)
#I don't like this stage that much but I REALLY don't like Magicant so this one gets my vote. -[[User:Chiruria|'''''Chiruria!''''']] 12:52, February 21, 2020 (EST)
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===Votes for ''Magicant''===
==[[Samus (SSB)]] vs. [[Pichu (SSBM)]] vs. [[Ganondorf (SSBB)]]==
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#Better music, better environment, and a better stage to fight on, honestly. [[User:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''Aidan'''</span>]], [[User talk:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''the College-Bound Rurouni'''</span>]] 11:58, 2 June 2018 (EDT)
#So much potential that hasn't even been seen, she is arguably the best out of the three and can beat anyone. She's so cool and Samus is awesome. Whoo! <span style="font-family: Sonic XBd BT; font-size: 12pt"> [[User:Conny|<font color="black">Con</font>]][[User talk:Conny|<font color="gray">ny</font>]] [[File:Airconny Snake Sig.png|20px]] </span> 23:29, 16 August 2013 (EDT)
#[[Special:Contributions/23.17.208.28|23.17.208.28]] 00:59, 4 June 2018 (EDT)
#Samus is the best character out of all three, and the least worst in-game. --<span style="background-color: black; border:3px solid blue; border-radius:10px 30px 30px 10px;">[[User:Lasifer|ﾚ∆ㄅ]]</span> <span style="background-color: #000000; box-shadow: 0px 0px 10px #461B7E; border-radius:10px;"> [[File:MaskedManSignatureSprite.PNG|link=User talk:Lasifer]]</span> 00:34, 17 August 2013 (EDT)
#Magicant is beautiful and way better looking --[[User:Myth|<font color="orange">'''Myth'''</font>]] [[File:Myth Kirby.png|19px|link=User talk:Myth]] 13:53, 24 June 2018 (EDT)
#[[User:Chuck the Duck|Chuck the Duck]] ([[User talk:Chuck the Duck|talk]]) 00:52, 17 August 2013 (EDT)
#I hate Magicant because whoever gets the Flying Man is pretty much guaranteed a win unless they SD several times. However I'm giving it a vote out of Pity, because I like Earthbound, and because I absolutely despise Mushroom Kingdom II. [[Special:Contributions/72.133.91.93|72.133.91.93]] 09:32, 6 June 2018 (EDT)YoshisaurusThe9th
#She might have not been good in this game, but she was a good character in Melee and Brawl. Pichu was horribly bad and Ganondorf was always a slower and almost unusable version of Captain Falcon. But it's just my opinion[[Special:Contributions/24.45.189.29|24.45.189.29]] 10:53, 17 August 2013 (EDT)
#The heck is wrong with y'all. MK2 is beat out in pretty much every department by Magicant. [[File:RagnarokSignature.png|20px|link=]] [[User:Ragnarok320|<span style="color: red;">'''Ragnarok320, The Toa of Fire''']]</span> [[User talk:Ragnarok320|<span style="color: black;">'''(talk)'''</span>]] 18:48, 5 July 2018 (EDT)
#I like Samus the most out of these three. '''[[User:JamesHeart123|<font color="blue">James</font>]]'''[[File:JH-Heartless.png|15px|link=Special:Contributions/JamesHeart123]]'''[[User talk:JamesHeart123|<font color="orange">Heart</font>]]''' 14:04, 17 August 2013 (EDT)
#Magicant looks great, and will likely look even better in Ultimate. MKII is fine, but not nearly as good or interesting as Magicant. [[User:Kirbitzein|Kirbitzein]] ([[User talk:Kirbitzein|talk]]) 01:41, 8 July 2018 (EDT)
#The only non-clone, no contest. Now if Manandorf evolves into Ganondorf in Smash 4, that would be a whole different story. [[User:TheBakonBitz|TheBakonBitz]] ([[User talk:TheBakonBitz|talk]])
#Flying Man is more helpful when it comes to KOing opponents than Birdo's eggs. [[User:Warriorking98|Warriorking98]] 22:26, 14 July 2019 (EDT)
#I like this stage a lot. --[[Special:Contributions/142.229.115.125|142.229.115.125]] 16:41, 23 July 2018 (EDT)
#I've never been a huge fan of retro stages. However, I am a huge fan of taking old, retro settings from games and remaking them in higher quality, and Magicant is a perfect candidate for this. It is aesthetically unique compared to almost every stage in smash with it's heavy amount of pink, and I love all of the Earthbound references. I like most of the hazards on this stage, but I understand that the flying men can be quite annoying. I can't wait to play on this stage in Ultimate, it's already looking stunning. [[User:Mudmag|Mudmag]] ([[User talk:Mudmag|talk]])
#It is so beautiful, this has good music and it is so enjoyable, and this is very rememorable to me, but the most fun part of this stage is the Flying Men. [[User:Andreepika11233|Andreepika11233]] ([[User talk:Andreepika11233|talk]]) 19:32, 9 August 2018 (EDT)
#A second, in my opinion poor attempt at constructing a good Mushroom Kingdom stage vs a beautiful, nostalgic stage from an equally great game. Magicant's an easy choice for me. [[User:SugarCookie420|SugarCookie420]] ([[User talk:SugarCookie420|talk]]) 08:43, 23 August 2018 (EDT)
#Honestly, I haven't played on the SMB2 stage before. However, I HAVE played on this stage multiple times and I love the brightly colored, wacky style of it and the nice calm music that plays. Plus, the Flying Men sprites are cool! [[User:Crazy456Rhino|Crazy456Rhino]] ([[User talk:Crazy456Rhino|talk]]) 12:13, 7 September 2018 (EDT)
#I've never actually played on Mushroom Kingdom II, but Magicant is a much better looking stage, I like its series much more, and the music is phenomenal. <b>[[User:john3637881|<span style="color: black;">John</span>]]</b> [[File:John3637881 Signature.png|20px]] <b>[[User talk:John3637881|<span style="color: red;">HUAH!</span>]]</b> 12:54, 7 September 2018 (EDT)
#Magicant wins for me hands down due to all the awesome references on this stage. Seeing the Dungeon Man and other parts of Mother 1+2 recreated in 3d is a real treat. [[User:RisingFalcon|RisingFalcon]] ([[User talk:RisingFalcon|talk]]) 19:26, 7 September 2018 (EDT)
#Prettier and chock full of cool references. [[User:TheDavsto|TheDavsto]] ([[User talk:TheDavsto|talk]]) 10:13, 11 September 2018 (EDT)
#Since I played for 3ds way more, I definitely would prefer this beautiful stage. [[User:Super A|Super A]] ([[User talk:Super A|talk]]) 19:37, 24 September 2018 (EDT)
#It has a better layout, great music, and gorgeous visuals (especially in Ultimate). The Flying Men may be annoying and I love the retro aesthetic of MK2 and similar stages, but Magicant's creative design makes it more memorable to me. [[User:AquaShield11097|<span style="color: blue;">Aqua Shield</span>]] ([[User talk:AquaShield11097|''<span style="color: darkblue;">talk</span>'']]) [[File:AquaShield.png|20px]] 22:43, 2 October 2018 (EDT)
#Gorgeous map. Nice design. Will be even better in Ultimate with the option to take out the flying man. :P [[User:OctopusSandwich|OctopusSandwich]] 20:24, 14 October 2018 (EDT)
#--[[Special:Contributions/180.249.127.254|180.249.127.254]] 04:36, 4 November 2018 (EST)
#[[User:KoreanPJs|KoreanPJs]] ([[User talk:KoreanPJs|talk]]) 03:10, 7 November 2018 (EST)
#RPGs > Platformers. --[[Special:Contributions/113.212.233.12|113.212.233.12]] 06:18, 10 November 2018 (EST)
#I only have Smash for 3ds and will be getting ultimate, and I know flying man ruins the stage, but with stage hazards off, this'll be a great stage. [[User:MimoMQ|MimoMQ]] ([[User talk:MimoMQ|talk]]) 19:43, 25 November 2018 (EST)
#As a massive fan of the Mother series, this is a absolutely beautiful stage. Any mario stage (except for Ney Donk City Hall) is just to tell you how great the mario games are. (Fourside will always be the best mother stage). [[User:MasterDuelist_24|MasterDuelist_24]] ([[User talk:MasterDuelist_24|talk]]) 10:39, 31 January 2019 (EST)
#The Flying Man ruins the stage but with stage hazards off its no biggie. Mushroom Kingdom II is too small to fight on. [[User:Tyler730|Tyler730]] ([[User talk:Tyler730|talk]]) 13:05, 2 February 2019 (EST)
#One of my favorites. --[[Special:Contributions/24.146.71.225|24.146.71.225]] 18:22, 4 February 2019 (EST)
#it looks so cool man.[[User:Iamthedude|Iamthedude]] ([[User talk:Iamthedude|talk]]) 21:55, 24 February 2019 (EST)
#Magicant has godlike music and looks incredible. Makes me want an Earthbound Beginnings remake. --[[User:Plague von Karma|Plague von Karma]] ([[User talk:Plague von Karma|talk]]) 01:32, April 9, 2019 (EDT)
#Wow i never actually voted for this, anyway if this was exclusivly for the 3ds version of Magicant, then i'd say the other stage is better, but Magicant for ultimate looks so good to me it is almost no contest. Plus it isnt a walk-off <span style="background:#ea244a;border:outset #906 5px">'''[[User:Xtra3678|Xtra]][[File:Xtra_headpng.png|20px]][[User talk:Xtra3678|<span style="color:Lime">Talk</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Xtra3678|<span style="color: Gold">Edits</span>]]'''</span> 10:39, April 24, 2019 (EDT)
#I like the stage in its entirety, and Mario stages are boring. Plus, Magicant is very cute. I like the pink. [[Special:Contributions/75.86.147.26|75.86.147.26]] 07:15, May 26, 2019 (EDT)
#I think this stage looks cooler than the other. That's pretty much all. [[User:JRJ007|JRJ007]] ([[User talk:JRJ007|talk]]) 19:39, June 2, 2019 (EDT)
#The stage is cute. Plus, the Flying Man is great. [[User:LucasRules|LucasRules]] ([[User talk:LucasRules|talk]]) 17:34, June 5, 2019 (EDT)
#This one's far more creative than MK2, and the Flying Men aren't too annoying when you learn how they function. --[[User:MeatBall104|<span style="color: red">'''''Meat'''''</span>]][[User talk:MeatBall104|<span style="color: orange">'''''Ball'''''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/MeatBall104|<span style="color:Gold">'''''104'''''</span>]] [[File:MB104Pic2.jpg|20px]] 09:45, June 6, 2019 (EDT)
#Surprised this is still going on. I love both stages but I'm giving my vote to Magicant. Overall better looking stage and Ultimate's hazerdless option make it better to have a serious fight on in my (as I call it since I never played in real tournaments) pseudo tournaments, and generally I want to support the EarthBound franchise.[[User: supatoad64|<span style="color:blue;"> '''SupaToad64''' </span>]] [[ Image: MK64ToadCSP.jpg|20px ]] 02:09, June 10, 2019 (EDT)
# Two words: Walk-offs. Maybe that's one word. Whatever's the case, stages where you can walk into the blast zone are a bane for competitive and casual players alike, whether you're getting back-throwed into oblivion, or a combo brings you a little bit to far to the left while, frustratingly, you were close to 0%. [[User:Mogo|Mogo]] ([[User talk:Mogo|talk]]) 08:02, 6/10/2019 (EST)
#FLYING MAN!!!![[User:DarkNight|DarkNight]] ([[User talk:DarkNight|talk]]) 11:06, June 15, 2019 (EDT)
#It looks like pink cotton candy!!!![[Special:Contributions/71.9.47.77|71.9.47.77]] 11:30, June 15, 2019 (EDT)
#Let's just say this stage really appeals to me personally. --[[Special:Contributions/73.220.19.65|73.220.19.65]] 16:45, June 19, 2019 (EDT)
#It doesn't have a walk-off section. Better for gameplay imo. [[Special:Contributions/156.57.171.73|156.57.171.73]] 15:06, August 20, 2019 (EDT)RSdabeast
#Great music, great callbacks to MOTHER 1, and just a great stage in general. It was a bit better in Smash 4 because the memories looked cooler and flying man was stronger, but Ultimate made it bigger so it's fine. Magicant best stage.[[Special:Contributions/12.148.188.195|12.148.188.195]] 19:31, October 2, 2019 (EDT)
#Music is better, has nice throwbacks to an amazing RPG. Except Flying Man. Flying Man can die. <span style="font-family: SimHei;color: orange;background-color: green;">LegendEH Is Very [[User talk:LegendEH|Handsome]]~</span> 11:22, November 22, 2019 (EST)
#I hate walk offs. they make me sad. [[User:CMWAidanx|CMWAidanx? Yikes.]] ([[User talk:CMWAidanx|talk]]) 16:42, December 2, 2019 (EST) 16:41 EST, 12/2/2019
#As of the visual update in Ultimate, I am now much more fond of this stage. It's also more fun to play on now, especially because you can spike opponents through the clouds. ''[[User:Trainer Alex|<span style="color: blue;">'''Alex'''</span>]] the [[User talk:Trainer Alex|<span style="color: red;">'''Jigglypuff trainer'''</span>]]'' 10:10, December 22, 2019 (EST)
#Magicant is just better to fight on in my opinion. Flying Man is pretty annoying, but the reason I'm giving a full vote because it has better music, and platforms, just listening to Unfounded Revenge/Smashing song of praise while fighting as Ness/Lucas on Magicant is enough to make me feel better. [[User:Weegeegaming|'''<span style="color: green;">Weegeegaming</span>''']]|[[User talk:Weegeegaming|'''''<span style="color: red;">talk</span>''''']] 04:31, April 11, 2020 (EDT)


===Half votes===
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#This stage is more fun in my opinion. <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:73.204.16.209|73.204.16.209]] ([[User talk:73.204.16.209|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/73.204.16.209|contribs]]) 15:45, 11 September 2018 (EDT)</small>
#Samus has been there from the start, and she climbed up from her last space, but Ganondorf just fell and Pichu was there only at once <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:Cobravictim|Cobravictim]] ([[User talk:Cobravictim|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Cobravictim|contribs]]) 11:46, 22 August 2013 (EDT)</small>
#I prefer the music and the stage layout over Mushroom Kingdom II. <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:Epic Meme God|Epic Meme God]] ([[User talk:Epic Meme God|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Epic Meme God|contribs]]) 20:27, 5 February 2019 (EST)</small>
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#Mushroom Kingdom 2 is not in the Mushroom Kingdom, it's in Supcon!!! <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:LinkBoy|LinkBoy]] ([[User talk:LinkBoy|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/LinkBoy|contribs]]) 18:08, 8 March 2019 (EST)</small>
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#I am a massive fan of the Mother series, and plus this stage is beautiful. <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:Xay1494|Xay1494]] ([[User talk:Xay1494|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Xay1494|contribs]]) 20:28, 15 March 2019 (EDT)</small>
#Magicant also references Earthbound Zero. Its a fun stage with the Flyingmen. <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:FlaminKirb|FlaminKirb]] ([[User talk:FlaminKirb|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/FlaminKirb|contribs]]) 12:56, April 12, 2019</small>
#Magicant hazards off is pretty nice for casual doubles/free for all’s not gonna lie. <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:ThiccMan|ThiccMan]] ([[User talk:ThiccMan|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/ThiccMan|contribs]]) 08:27, 2019 April 13</small>
#I love this stage a lot! If I am not feeling like a serious 1v1, I might do a slightly more casual free-for-all on this stage. 18:33 September 24, 2019 (EST) Kalifguest22 <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:Kalifguest22|Kalifguest22]] ([[User talk:Kalifguest22|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kalifguest22|contribs]]) 18:33 September 24, 2019 (EDT)</small>
#FLYING BIRD MAN <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:69.5.117.14|69.5.117.14]] ([[User talk:69.5.117.14|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/69.5.117.14|contribs]]) 19:22, December 11, 2019</small>
#Just better <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:107.77.249.24|107.77.249.24]] ([[User talk:107.77.249.24|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/107.77.249.24|contribs]]) 16:32, December 12, 2019</small>
#As a casual smash player, this is a great stage for camping and a lot of people struggle with the bottom area.<small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:18.205.117.140|18.205.117.140]] ([[User talk:18.205.117.140|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/18.205.117.140|contribs]]) 19:24, March 19, 2020</small>


===Votes for ''Pichu (SSBM)''===
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#It's a Pokemon and it suits my playstyle the best out of the three. Also, how come Pichu's in this match instead of Kirby? Kirby lost that battle against Pichu and is now at the very bottom of the tier list.[[Special:Contributions/71.105.121.171|71.105.121.171]] 00:06, 17 August 2013 (EDT)
#Cute. [[Special:Contributions/75.156.151.217|75.156.151.217]] 00:18, 17 August 2013 (EDT)
#Used to play Pichu all the time. Not familiar with the other 2. Oh and Ganondorf sucks so bad so he won't get it. ----- [[User:Conanshinichi|Conan]][[User talk:Conanshinichi|shinichi]]  08:30, 17 August 2013 (EDT)
# I can't stand to play as those characters in those games, but I still have good memories of playing    as pichu when I was a kid.[[User:TheAtomicFire|<span style="color:orange">TheAtomic</span>]][[User talk:TheAtomicFire|<span style="color:red">Fire</span>]] [[File:BluePichu.png|20x20px]] 08:58, 17 August 2013 (EDT)
#Because the Pichu Bros. in the anime made me smile. <span style="font-family:AR JULIAN; font-size:12pt">[[User:ChuckNorris24|<span style="color:brown">Chuck</span>]][[User talk:ChuckNorris24|<span style="color:brown">Norris</span>]]</span>[[File:24.png|23px]]  09:43, 17 August 2013 (EDT)
#One vote for the cute electric suicide mouse!--[[User:Cakeizgud|Cakeizgud]] ([[User talk:Cakeizgud|talk]]) 10:00, 17 August 2013 (EDT)
#I love Pichu sooo much! [[Special:Contributions/75.156.151.217|75.156.151.217]] 10:11 17 August 2013
#[[User:Scr7|<font style="color:#0000FF">S</font>]][[User talk:Scr7|<font style="color:#7F7FFF">c</font>]][[Special:Contributions/Scr7|<font style="color:#00FFFF">r</font>]][[Special:Editcount/Scr7|<font style="color:#FF7F00">7</font>]][[File:Wolfsig.png|19px|link=Special:PrefixIndex/User:Scr7]] 12:02, 17 August 2013 (EDT)
#Pichu actually has some good power behind his attacks, and in my opinion, the '''best''' recovery in the game. [[User:Washi|<font style="color:#FF0000">Wa</font>]][[User talk:Washi|<font style="color:#00FF00">shi</font>]][[File:Washi signature.png|19px]] 13:46, 17 August 2013 (EDT)
#He's cute, fun to play as, and a very interesting addition to ''Melee''. And he is '''so manly''' that he hurts himself. <span style="font-family: AR DARLING; font-size: 12pt"> [[User:DarkFox01|{{Color|black|Dark}}]][[User talk:DarkFox01|{{Color|darkred|Fox}}]][[Special:Contributions/DarkFox01|{{Color|red|01}}]]</span>[[File:DF01Sig.png|19px]]Choose your character! 13:57, 17 August 2013 (EDT)
#I just got a Pichu in ''Pokemon Pearl''. <span style="font-family:RAGE ITALIC">[[User:Terrible|<span style="color:grey">Terrible</span>]] [[User talk:Terrible|<span style="color:green">is</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Terrible|<span style="color:grey">Terrible</span>]]</span> 15:05, 17 August 2013 (EDT)
#Pichu is just a weak Pikachu, and Pikachu is awesome.--[[User:LavaKirby|<span style="color: red;">'''Lava'''</span>]][[User talk:LavaKirby|<span style="color: orange;">'''Kirby'''</span>]] 16:53, 18 August 2013 (EDT)
# Pichu can be a powerhouse if raised right.  [[User:Bulbaking|Bulbaking]] ([[User talk:Bulbaking|talk]]) 14:37, 19 August 2013 (EDT)
# Pichu is one of my favourite Pokemon and I love Pokemon and he/she is just so cute[[Special:Contributions/31.9.47.115|31.9.47.115]] 11:36, 22 August 2013 (EDT)
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#I like Ganon. <span style="font-family:Triforce, sans-serif;">'''[[User:Dr. Pain 99|<font color=#008000>D<font color=#008019>o<font color=#008031>c<font color=#008049>t<font color=#008062>o<font color=#008080>rP</font>a</font>i</font>n</font>9</font>9</font>]]'''</span> 23:21, 16 August 2013 (EDT)
#Out of all the low tier characters listed in the voting, ''Brawl'' Ganon is the most fun to play for me. --[[User:Timson622222|Timson622222]] ([[User talk:Timson622222|talk]]) 23:33, 16 August 2013 (EDT)
#Dair. [[User:Dots|<font color="red">Do</font>]][[User talk:Dots|<font color="blue">t</font><font color="purple">s</font>]] [[File:MewtwoMS.png]] The Gangnum Style 23:38, 16 August 2013 (EDT)
#Down Aerial. '''''[[User:HavocReaper48|<span style="color:GOLDENROD; font-family:envirod;">--HavocReaper</span>]][[User talk:HavocReaper48|<span style="color:GOLD; font-family:envirod;">48</span>]]''''' 01:01, 17 August 2013 (EDT)
#More fun to play than the other two. [[User:Boo Buddy|<font style="color:black">Boo</font>]] [[User talk:Boo Buddy|<font style="color:black">Buddy</font>]][[File:Haunter MS.png|19px]] 03:35, 17 August 2013 (EDT)
#[[Special:Contributions/75.31.4.16|75.31.4.16]] 00:34, 18 August 2013 (EDT)
#Well this went out of date quickly. Poor Kirby. I like Pichu best as a character, but Ganondorf is definitely the most fun to play as. I feel as if I've typed this before. [[User:ToastUltimatum|{{Color|#ff8c00|'''Toast'''}}]] [[File:Wii U Logo Transparent.png|17px|link=Special:Contributions/ToastUltimatum]][[User talk:ToastUltimatum|{{Color|#01a3c4|'''ltimatum'''}}]][[File:Transparent Swadloon.png|26px]] 10:26, 18 August 2013 (EDT)
#Zelda series ftw! [[User:Mr. Anon|<font color="grey">'''Mr. '''</font><font color="midnightblue">'''Anon'''</font>]][[File:Anon.png|23px|link=Special:Random]][[User talk:Mr. Anon|''<span style="color: black;">talk</span>'']]  22:14, 21 August 2013 (EDT)
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The reason I love Mushroom Kingdom II is because of the music from ''{{s|mariowiki|Super Mario Bros 2}}''. First, you have the overworld theme during a match and when time is running out and in [[Sudden Death]], it changes to the boss battle theme! Great stage! [[User:Dragonfirebreath25|Dragonfirebreath25]] ([[User talk:Dragonfirebreath25|talk]]) 17:19, 2 June 2018 (EDT)
Kirby's last on the Melee tier list now.... [[User:Ac2k|<span style="color: red;">'''Awesome'''</span>]] [[User talk:Ac2k|<span style="color: red;">'''Cardinal'''</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Ac2k|<span style="color: red;">'''2000'''</span>]] 21:51, 18 August 2013 (EDT)
:Actually, Suzaku Castle in Smash 4 will do the same thing, although it has to be a specific track of music.[[Special:Contributions/72.133.91.93|72.133.91.93]] 08:09, 7 June 2018 (EDT)Blueflame105
::I agree. Since Melee Kirby lost to Melee Pichu, I actually expected Kirby to be on this round instead, in addition to since he is said became last on the tier list shortly after that round. But since Pichu also has a long history of being struggled in the bottom tier and since he also doesn't appear in many SA matches as well, I'll give it to him this time. [[User:Dots|<font color="red">Do</font>]][[User talk:Dots|<font color="blue">t</font><font color="purple">s</font>]] [[File:MewtwoMS.png]] The Kamehameha 22:03, 18 August 2013 (EDT)
Someone keeps deleting my vote! I keep voting the same thing on Magicant, but every time I come back to the page to look at new votes, my vote is gone! I'm not sockpuppeting, so why do my votes keep being taken off? [[Special:Contributions/72.133.91.93|72.133.91.93]] 12:00, 8 June 2018 (EDT)Blueflame105
:Pichu is here because he won the Kirby (SSBM) vs. Pichu (SSBM) fight; the winner from that moving on to here was determined and publicized before that tier list was released.
:Apparently someone with the same IP address has already voted. That's probably why it didn't count.[[User:SugarCookie420|SugarCookie420]] ([[User talk:SugarCookie420|talk]]) 08:40, 23 August 2018 (EDT)
:Also I kind of think that the claimed 11th tier list isn't official, because I'm pretty sure it was never announced as such. [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[Image:Toomai.png|20px|link=User:Toomai/Bin|???]] The Non-Toxic 22:59, 21 August 2013 (EDT)
:Amazing stage picks for this Smash Arena
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How is this still going [[User talk:RetroPika|<font color="yellow">RetroPika</font>]][[File:PikachuHeadSSB.png|17px]] 04:58, 8 January 2019 (EST)
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::The wiki status is still Red, so not much attention is placed onto this. [[User:SugarCookie420|<span style="font-family:Times New Roman"><span style="color: red;">SugarCookie</span></span>]] [[User talk:SugarCookie420|<span style="font-family:Impact"><span style="color: green;">420</span></span>]] 14:54, 4 March 2019 (EST)
 
:::Still, these are supposed to be weekly, and it's been about 10 months. We should probably end this round at some point. <span style="color:lightblue">'''Everone123'''</span> [[File:Everone123 Sig.png|20px]] ([[User:Everone123|u]] / [[User talk:Everone123|t]] / [[Special:Contributions/Everone123|c]]) 21:50, March 15, 2019 (EDT)
==[[Mario and Yoshi]] vs. [[Samus Unmasked]]==
::::We are in a red Wiki status which means we must focus more on main articles than the SA. We can get new rounds once the status lowers to at least a yellow. [[:User:ZeldaStarfoxfan2164{{#if:|_({{{3}}})}}|ZeldaStarfoxfan2164]] ([[User talk:ZeldaStarfoxfan2164|talk]]) is made in America  21:58, March 15, 2019 (EDT)
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::::We are now in the yellow status. It's still high, but we should probably have a new arena by the end of April. [[User:X-Biaur19|X-Biaur19]] ([[User talk:X-Biaur19|talk]]) 10:10, April 25, 2019 (EDT)X-Biaur19
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:::::We may be in yellow, but we are still in a very heavy yellow, which is honestly almost red, due to jokers reveal. It may seem like its unnecessary to have to wait this long but i dont think we should try to rush the admins right now. <span style="background:#ea244a;border:outset #906 5px">'''[[User:Xtra3678|Xtra]][[File:Xtra_headpng.png|20px]][[User talk:Xtra3678|<span style="color:Lime">Talk</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Xtra3678|<span style="color: Gold">Edits</span>]]'''</span> 12:29, April 25, 2019 (EDT)
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::::That's fair.[[User:X-Biaur19|X-Biaur19]] ([[User talk:X-Biaur19|talk]]) 10:07, April 29, 2019 (EDT)X-Biaur19
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Hasn't this match been going for more than a year now?[[User:DarkNight|DarkNight]] ([[User talk:DarkNight|talk]]) 20:55, June 16, 2019 (EDT)
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===Votes for ''Mario and Yoshi''===
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#Freakin' ''Super Mario World''! '''[[User:JamesHeart123|<font color="blue">James</font>]]'''[[File:JH-Heartless.png|15px|link=Special:Contributions/JamesHeart123]]'''[[User talk:JamesHeart123|<font color="orange">Heart</font>]]''' 23:36, 16 August 2013 (EDT)
#The good old days. [[Special:Contributions/75.156.151.217|75.156.151.217]] 00:18, 17 August 2013 (EDT)
#A good duo. [[User:Boo Buddy|<font style="color:black">Boo</font>]] [[User talk:Boo Buddy|<font style="color:black">Buddy</font>]][[File:Haunter MS.png|19px]] 03:35, 17 August 2013 (EDT)
#Yoshi's face is priceless. ----- [[User:Conanshinichi|Conan]][[User talk:Conanshinichi|shinichi]]  08:27, 17 August 2013 (EDT)
#Super Mario world![[User:TheAtomicFire|<span style="color:orange">TheAtomic</span>]][[User talk:TheAtomicFire|<span style="color:red">Fire</span>]] [[File:BluePichu.png|20x20px]] 08:41, 17 August 2013 (EDT)
#Why isn't Tamagon in this fight? <span style="font-family:AR JULIAN; font-size:12pt">[[User:ChuckNorris24|<span style="color:brown">Chuck</span>]][[User talk:ChuckNorris24|<span style="color:brown">Norris</span>]]</span>[[File:24.png|23px]]  09:43, 17 August 2013 (EDT)
#I just love Yoshi so much, how could I NOT pick this?--[[User:Cakeizgud|Cakeizgud]] ([[User talk:Cakeizgud|talk]]) 10:04, 17 August 2013 (EDT)
#I'm not gonna lie, Samus is cool, but I have to say Mario and Yoshi. [[Special:Contributions/75.156.151.217|75.156.151.217]] 10:09 17 August 2013
#It gives me more memories. [[Special:Contributions/24.45.189.29|24.45.189.29]] 10:54, 17 August 2013 (EDT)
#[[User:Scr7|<font style="color:#0000FF">S</font>]][[User talk:Scr7|<font style="color:#7F7FFF">c</font>]][[Special:Contributions/Scr7|<font style="color:#00FFFF">r</font>]][[Special:Editcount/Scr7|<font style="color:#FF7F00">7</font>]][[File:Wolfsig.png|19px|link=Special:PrefixIndex/User:Scr7]] 12:02, 17 August 2013 (EDT)
#I like Mario more than Samus. [[User:Washi|<font style="color:#FF0000">Wa</font>]][[User talk:Washi|<font style="color:#00FF00">shi</font>]][[File:Washi signature.png|19px]] 13:46, 17 August 2013 (EDT)
#I chose this one because this trophey '''DOESN'T''' have a horribly rendered face of Emma Stone on it!<span style="font-family:Sketch1">[[User:MegiBeelzebub|<span style="color:green">Megi</span>]][[User talk:MegiBeelzebub|<span style="color:black">Beelzebub</span>]]</span> [[File:MegiBeelzebub.png|19px]] 13:57, 17 August 2013 (EDT)
#''Super Mario Advance 2'' was my first ever handheld game, and I was heartbroken when our GBA SP was stolen... with ''SMA2'' in it! Either way, ''Super Mario World'' is an amazing game, and this reminds me of it when I see it. <span style="font-family: AR DARLING; font-size: 12pt"> [[User:DarkFox01|{{Color|black|Dark}}]][[User talk:DarkFox01|{{Color|darkred|Fox}}]][[Special:Contributions/DarkFox01|{{Color|red|01}}]]</span>[[File:DF01Sig.png|19px]]is a BitF fan 14:02, 17 August 2013 (EDT)
#[[SMW|This game]] does it. <span style="font-family:RAGE ITALIC">[[User:Terrible|<span style="color:grey">Terrible</span>]] [[User talk:Terrible|<span style="color:green">is</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Terrible|<span style="color:grey">Terrible</span>]]</span> 15:05, 17 August 2013 (EDT)
#[[Special:Contributions/75.31.4.16|75.31.4.16]] 00:35, 18 August 2013 (EDT)
#Samus sucks, Mario and Yoshi are both awesome.--[[User:LavaKirby|<span style="color: red;">'''Lava'''</span>]][[User talk:LavaKirby|<span style="color: orange;">'''Kirby'''</span>]] 16:50, 18 August 2013 (EDT)
#Yeah I psyched about voting for Samus in the first place. This trophy is cool because of Yoshi. [[User:Dots|<font color="red">Do</font>]][[User talk:Dots|<font color="blue">t</font><font color="purple">s</font>]] [[File:MewtwoMS.png]] The Arwing 19:42, 18 August 2013 (EDT)
#The pose is better. I don't care about trophies, though. --[[User:Timson622222|Timson622222]] ([[User talk:Timson622222|talk]]) 21:32, 18 August 2013 (EDT)
#Better looking. [[User:ZeldaStarfoxfan2164|ZeldaStarfoxfan2164]] ([[User talk:ZeldaStarfoxfan2164|talk]]) 11:32, 19 August 2013 (EDT)
#Yoshi Yoshi! [[User:Bulbaking|Bulbaking]] ([[User talk:Bulbaking|talk]]) 14:38, 19 August 2013 (EDT)
#They are the old buddies plus I love Yoshi[[Special:Contributions/31.9.47.115|31.9.47.115]] 11:33, 22 August 2013 (EDT)
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===Votes for ''Samus Unmasked''===
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#I like Samus Unmasked. <span style="font-family:Triforce, sans-serif;">'''[[User:Dr. Pain 99|<font color=#008000>D<font color=#008019>o<font color=#008031>c<font color=#008049>t<font color=#008062>o<font color=#008080>rP</font>a</font>i</font>n</font>9</font>9</font>]]'''</span> 23:21, 16 August 2013 (EDT)
#Best trophy in the game, and is the best of them all. No other is cooler. <span style="font-family: Sonic XBd BT; font-size: 12pt"> [[User:Conny|<font color="black">Con</font>]][[User talk:Conny|<font color="gray">ny</font>]] [[File:Airconny Snake Sig.png|20px]] </span> 23:27, 16 August 2013 (EDT)
#This trophy reveals more than the other one. Yeah, we all know who Mario and Yoshi are, but this one gives away Samus's gender, something that was quite a mystery back in the day.[[Special:Contributions/71.105.121.171|71.105.121.171]] 00:06, 17 August 2013 (EDT)
#[[User:Chuck the Duck|Chuck the Duck]] ([[User talk:Chuck the Duck|talk]]) 00:52, 17 August 2013 (EDT)
#Yoshi will eat Samus regardless of how much armor she is wearing. '''''[[User:HavocReaper48|<span style="color:GOLDENROD; font-family:envirod;">--HavocReaper</span>]][[User talk:HavocReaper48|<span style="color:GOLD; font-family:envirod;">48</span>]]''''' 01:01, 17 August 2013 (EDT)
#Even if Justin Bailey couldn't be of real help, I still vote for this. [[User:RoyboyX|<font color="red">'''Roy'''</font><font color="gray">'''boy'''</font><font color="darkred">'''X'''</font>]] [[User talk:RoyboyX|''<span style="color:brown;">'''Talk'''</span>'']] 15:24, 21 August 2013 (EDT)
#That is a BEAUTIFUL face! --[[Special:Contributions/187.153.169.209|187.153.169.209]] 21:56, 21 August 2013 (EDT)
#Reveals info otherwise not accesable in the game, which is interesting. [[User:Mr. Anon|<font color="grey">'''Mr. '''</font><font color="midnightblue">'''Anon'''</font>]][[File:Anon.png|23px|link=Special:Random]][[User talk:Mr. Anon|''<span style="color: black;">talk</span>'']] 22:14, 21 August 2013 (EDT)


I think both stages are about equal in functionality when weighing strengths and weaknesses, but Magicant wins out for me not only because it's absolutely breathtaking, especially in Ultimate, but because of the rampant references to Mother 1 and 2. As anyone who has followed my edits knows (which I expect to be a grand total of zero), origins really really matter to me, so to see a stage crafted with such love for the source material just amazes me. Mushroom Kingdom II is no slouch either, but I'd argue it's slightly worse since almost all of its assets are just straight-up taken from All-Stars while Magicant uses mostly original models and animations. Sure it also takes things directly from both of the Mother games it appears in, but uses them sparingly and mostly just for a few cool call-backs in the background. I think it says a lot when I've never been a huge Mother fan and yet the love for the series put into this stage blows me away. [[Special:Contributions/73.220.19.65|73.220.19.65]] 16:45, June 19, 2019 (EDT)
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# Mario and Yoshi.. yaaawn.. samus unmasked is more special than 2 characters EVERYONE knows.. [[User:Cobravictim|Cobravictim]] ([[User talk:Cobravictim|talk]]) 11:49, 22 August 2013 (EDT)
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...This is going to end soon right?<span style="font-family: Algerian; font-size:12pt"> '''[[User: supatoad64|<span style="color:dodgerblue;"> Supa </span>]] [[User talk: supatoad64|<span style="color:dodgerblue;"> Toad 64 </span>]]''' </span> [[ Image: MK64ToadCSP.jpg|20px  ]] 02:17, June 22, 2019 (EDT)
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OK I think this one has had its run and we should stop it now. We may be in red but my god this just dragged on and on and on and on... [[User:Coconut2|<font color="cyan">Coconut2</font>]][[File:IsabelleHeadSSBU.png|20px]] 10:08, June 25, 2019
==[[Villager]] vs. [[Wii Fit Trainer]] vs. [[Mega Man]]==
:If smash arena is supposed to have a new match weekly, this is exatly 1 year, 3 weeks, and 1 day overdue.<span style="font-family: Algerian; font-size:12pt"> '''[[User: supatoad64|<span style="color:dodgerblue;"> Supa </span>]] [[User talk: supatoad64|<span style="color:dodgerblue;"> Toad 64 </span>]]''' </span> [[ Image: MK64ToadCSP.jpg|20px  ]] 20:35, July 1, 2019 (EDT)
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OK END THIS ALREADY THIS IS ALREADY TOO MUCH TIME OR HELL EVEN CANCEL SMASH ARENA ENTIRELY, I DON'T CARE, JUST END IT. [[User:Coconut2|<font color="cyan">Coconut2</font>]][[File:IsabelleHeadSSBU.png|20px]] 21:21, July 17, 2019
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:First, calm down, it's not like this will go on for another millennium again. Second I will contact the admin team regarding when this will end.<span style="font-family: Algerian; font-size:12pt"> '''[[User: supatoad64|<span style="color:dodgerblue;"> Supa </span>]] [[User talk: supatoad64|<span style="color:dodgerblue;"> Toad 64 </span>]]''' </span> [[ Image: MK64ToadCSP.jpg|20px  ]] 05:43, July 19, 2019 (EDT)
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When will we get a new Smash Arena? [[Special:Contributions/174.55.24.64|174.55.24.64]] 17:52, September 4, 2019 (EDT)
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Just gonna put it here, do not comment on when we are getting another Smash Arena. The admins will get to it when they get to it, and asking again and again will get you nowhere. [[User:Cookies and Creme|<span style="font-family: Georgia;color: black;">Cookies</span>]][[File:CnC Signature.png|20px]][[User talk:Cookies and Creme|<span style="font-family: Georgia; color: black;">Creme</span>]] 18:39, September 22, 2019 (EDT)
===Votes for ''Villager''===
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#[[Special:Contributions/75.156.151.217|75.156.151.217]] 00:18, 17 August 2013 (EDT)
# Although I like all the newcomrs so far, I'll probably be playing the Villager the most when the game comes out. --<span style="background-color: black; border:3px solid blue; border-radius:10px 30px 30px 10px;">[[User:Lasifer|ﾚ∆ㄅ]]</span> <span style="background-color: #000000; box-shadow: 0px 0px 10px #461B7E; border-radius:10px;"> [[File:MaskedManSignatureSprite.PNG|link=User talk:Lasifer]]</span> 00:34, 17 August 2013 (EDT)
#He fights with an axe. TIMBER! [[User:Boo Buddy|<font style="color:black">Boo</font>]] [[User talk:Boo Buddy|<font style="color:black">Buddy</font>]][[File:Haunter MS.png|19px]] 03:35, 17 August 2013 (EDT)
#I'll always like Animal Crossing. Plus the description says kleptomaniac!  [[Special:Contributions/75.156.151.217|75.156.151.217]] 10:05, 17 August 2013
#Does this look like the face of mercy? '''[[User:JamesHeart123|<font color="blue">James</font>]]'''[[File:JH-Heartless.png|15px|link=Special:Contributions/JamesHeart123]]'''[[User talk:JamesHeart123|<font color="orange">Heart</font>]]''' 14:04, 17 August 2013 (EDT)
#Villager looks really interesting to play as and his memes are hilarious. [[Special:Contributions/110.174.90.69|110.174.90.69]] 22:57, 17 August 2013 (EDT)
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#He's the only character that can pick up anything without the help of items. He's OP when played correctly.
#Tough, because Wii Fit Trainer was the most unexpected by far, Mega Man looks the most fun because of his projectile meteor smash, and Villager is a middle ground between them. I didn't predict Villager being in the game, and his moveset is very interesting. That middle ground is what puts it in Villager's favour. [[User:ToastUltimatum|{{Color|#ff8c00|'''Toast'''}}]] [[File:Wii U Logo Transparent.png|17px|link=Special:Contributions/ToastUltimatum]][[User talk:ToastUltimatum|{{Color|#01a3c4|'''ltimatum'''}}]][[File:Transparent Swadloon.png|26px]] 10:26, 18 August 2013 (EDT)
#Luxray shall go against his fur color and choose the red character over the other blue characters. <font style="font-family:arial narrow">[[User:LightningBlue|<font style="color:royalblue">'''Lightning'''</font>]][[User talk:LightningBlue|<font style="color:darkblue">'''Blue'''</font>]]</font>[[File:405MS.png|link=Special:Contributions/LightningBlue]] 23:20, 21 August 2013 (EDT)
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Ok, so when’s the new Smash Arena coming? Genuine confusion. <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:TCBlitz|TCBlitz]] ([[User talk:TCBlitz|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/TCBlitz|contribs]]) 22:13, November 12, 2019</small>
===Votes for ''Wii Fit Trainer''===
:Read what I said above. [[User:Cookies and Creme|<span style="font-family: Georgia;color: black;">Cookies</span>]][[File:CnC Signature.png|20px]][[User talk:Cookies and Creme|<span style="font-family: Georgia; color: black;">Creme</span>]] 19:11, December 9, 2019 (EST)
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Uhhh... how long has this been on? I just made my account in March and, judging by your comments, it's been like, two years. [[User:Weegeegaming|'''<span style="color: green;">Weegeegaming</span>''']]|[[User talk:Weegeegaming|'''''<span style="color: red;">talk</span>''''']] 04:37, April 11, 2020 (EDT)
#Best character for Brawl 4. <span style="font-family: Sonic XBd BT; font-size: 12pt"> [[User:Conny|<font color="black">Con</font>]][[User talk:Conny|<font color="gray">ny</font>]] [[File:Airconny Snake Sig.png|20px]] </span> 23:27, 16 August 2013 (EDT)
#My SSB4 main already.[[User:Chuck the Duck|Chuck the Duck]] ([[User talk:Chuck the Duck|talk]]) 00:52, 17 August 2013 (EDT)
#The fact that absolutely no one wanted her in makes her that much more awesome. '''''[[User:HavocReaper48|<span style="color:GOLDENROD; font-family:envirod;">--HavocReaper</span>]][[User talk:HavocReaper48|<span style="color:GOLD; font-family:envirod;">48</span>]]''''' 01:01, 17 August 2013 (EDT)
#Killing everything with the Wii Fit trainer? Yes please!--[[User:Cakeizgud|Cakeizgud]] ([[User talk:Cakeizgud|talk]]) 09:57, 17 August 2013 (EDT)
#Mega Man? The most hyped third party character after Sonic, who had his turn in Brawl. Villager? Still a relatively easily predicted newcomer. But Wii Fit Trainer? Totally out of left field. [[User:infernape612|<span style="color:orange">infernape]][[User talk:infernape612|<span style="color:orange">612</span>]]</span> 11:50, 17 August 2013 (EDT)
# Everybody is hating her for some reason, so i'm gonna show some sympathy and vote for her. [[User:Multus Valde|Multus Valde]] ([[User talk:Multus Valde|talk]]) 08:46, 20 August 2013 (EDT)
#She isn't just a character, she's also a sort of symbol. If Sakurai just adds character X and Y few others who wield swords, guns or have a special ability again and bla bla bla new stages and bla bla bla new modes, there is going to be a serious Apollo 13 effect. The intrest is going to drop heavily unless something special happens. But can something so special happen, and in a good way? Wii Fit Trainer shows that Sakurai isn't going to give up, and is full of ideas. She shows that, even after fourteen years of Smash, the WHOLE community can join together and say: "What!?" instead of: "Oh, I was expecting that." She shows that Sakurai can not only talk the talk, but walk the walk. ...I dunno about you, but I have high hopes. :) --[[Special:Contributions/187.153.169.209|187.153.169.209]] 21:48, 21 August 2013 (EDT)
#That was so unexpected, to add somebody non-playable in ssb4. So my vote goes to her, because of the surprise! [[User:Cobravictim|Cobravictim]] ([[User talk:Cobravictim|talk]]) 11:53, 22 August 2013 (EDT)
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:Smash Arena is not a priority as of right now. The admins will make a new one eventually, not yet just. [[Image:001Toad.jpg|20px]] <span style="font-family:Algerian">'''[[User:OmegaToad64|<font color="blue">OmegαToαd</font> <font color="aqua">the Toαd Wαrrior</font>]] [[User talk:OmegaToad64|<font color="springgreen">(BUP)</font></span>]]''' 04:40, April 11, 2020 (EDT)
===Votes for ''Mega Man''===
::If you want, you can join our Discord. We have an active Smash Arena there. [[User:Cookies and Creme|<span style="font-family: Georgia;color: black;">Cookies</span>]][[File:CnC Signature.png|20px]][[User talk:Cookies and Creme|<span style="font-family: Georgia; color: black;">Creme</span>]] 17:49, April 13, 2020 (EDT)
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#I like Mega Man. <span style="font-family:Triforce, sans-serif;">'''[[User:Dr. Pain 99|<font color=#008000>D<font color=#008019>o<font color=#008031>c<font color=#008049>t<font color=#008062>o<font color=#008080>rP</font>a</font>i</font>n</font>9</font>9</font>]]'''</span> 23:21, 16 August 2013 (EDT)
#Mega Man makes the most sense to be appearing in a ''Smash'' game. --[[User:Timson622222|Timson622222]] ([[User talk:Timson622222|talk]]) 23:33, 16 August 2013 (EDT)
#Mega Man X is an awesome game. [[User:Dots|<font color="red">Do</font>]][[User talk:Dots|<font color="blue">t</font><font color="purple">s</font>]] [[File:MewtwoMS.png]] The Gangnum Style 23:38, 16 August 2013 (EDT)
#I'm one of those people who got really excited when I found out Mega Man is in the next Smash game. I really enjoy his franchise and look forward to playing as him in Smash. Besides, I have yet to play Animal Crossing or Wii Fit.[[Special:Contributions/71.105.121.171|71.105.121.171]] 00:06, 17 August 2013 (EDT)
#Super Fighting Robot - Megaman! [[Special:Contributions/86.160.20.78|86.160.20.78]] 06:56, 17 August 2013 (EDT)
#My favorite video game character. Nuff Said.[[User:TheAtomicFire|<span style="color:orange">TheAtomic</span>]][[User talk:TheAtomicFire|<span style="color:red">Fire</span>]] [[File:BluePichu.png|20x20px]] 09:00, 17 August 2013 (EDT)
#Now I really want to get an NES Mega Man game. <span style="font-family:AR JULIAN; font-size:12pt">[[User:ChuckNorris24|<span style="color:brown">Chuck</span>]][[User talk:ChuckNorris24|<span style="color:brown">Norris</span>]]</span>[[File:24.png|23px]]  09:43, 17 August 2013 (EDT)
#Robots are cool. [[User:Scr7|<font style="color:#0000FF">S</font>]][[User talk:Scr7|<font style="color:#7F7FFF">c</font>]][[Special:Contributions/Scr7|<font style="color:#00FFFF">r</font>]][[Special:Editcount/Scr7|<font style="color:#FF7F00">7</font>]][[File:Wolfsig.png|19px|link=Special:PrefixIndex/User:Scr7]] 12:02, 17 August 2013 (EDT)
#'''MEGA. UPPER.''' [[User:Washi|<font style="color:#FF0000">Wa</font>]][[User talk:Washi|<font style="color:#00FF00">shi</font>]][[File:Washi signature.png|19px]] 13:46, 17 August 2013 (EDT)
#Took long enough, Sakurai! I'm going to play as him as soon as I can! <span style="font-family: AR DARLING; font-size: 12pt"> [[User:DarkFox01|{{Color|black|Dark}}]][[User talk:DarkFox01|{{Color|darkred|Fox}}]][[Special:Contributions/DarkFox01|{{Color|red|01}}]]</span>[[File:DF01Sig.png|19px]]BILL! 14:00, 17 August 2013 (EDT)
#Villager is creepy, WFT is in the bottom of my SSB4 tier list, but Mega Man is god. <span style="font-family:RAGE ITALIC">[[User:Terrible|<span style="color:grey">Terrible</span>]] [[User talk:Terrible|<span style="color:green">is</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Terrible|<span style="color:grey">Terrible</span>]]</span> 15:05, 17 August 2013 (EDT)
#[[Special:Contributions/75.31.4.16|75.31.4.16]] 00:36, 18 August 2013 (EDT)
#i love mega man. He haves so many moves that i can use in super smash bros 4, he is a great fighter[[User:Smash x 5432|Smash X 5432]] ([[User talk:Smash x 5432|talk]]) 11:49, 18 August 2013 (EDT)
#Mega Man is going to be awesome. He is a unique character without any punches or kicks, and his move set is based off of Mega Man 2, the best Mega Man of them all (in my opinion). He's going to be the first character I will play as when I get the game.--[[User:Iguy2002|Iguy2002]] ([[User talk:Iguy2002|talk]]) 13:07, 18 August 2013 (EDT)
#I can always count on Mega Man. Even though I hate third-party characters, I'm cool with him. I just hope he's not an unlockable character.--[[User:LavaKirby|<span style="color: red;">'''Lava'''</span>]][[User talk:LavaKirby|<span style="color: orange;">'''Kirby'''</span>]] 16:49, 18 August 2013 (EDT)
#Just look at my nickname. JUST LOOK AT IT !!!  [[User:ToonMegaman|ToonMegaman]] ([[User talk:ToonMegaman|talk]]) 23:20, 18 August 2013 (EDT) 23:20, 18 august 2013
# Robots destroy all! [[User:Bulbaking|Bulbaking]] ([[User talk:Bulbaking|talk]]) 14:39, 19 August 2013 (EDT)
#Char I most predicted. My hopes for an AC char were quashed when Sakurai had said no to putting them in Smash, and Wii Fit Trainer made me go WTF. [[User:RoyboyX|<font color="red">'''Roy'''</font><font color="gray">'''boy'''</font><font color="darkred">'''X'''</font>]] [[User talk:RoyboyX|''<span style="color:brown;">'''Talk'''</span>'']] 15:25, 21 August 2013 (EDT)
#Coolest imo. [[User:Mr. Anon|<font color="grey">'''Mr. '''</font><font color="midnightblue">'''Anon'''</font>]][[File:Anon.png|23px|link=Special:Random]][[User talk:Mr. Anon|''<span style="color: black;">talk</span>'']] 22:13, 21 August 2013 (EDT)
#Megaman will win because of his popularity so I might as well vote for him[[Special:Contributions/31.9.47.115|31.9.47.115]] 11:30, 22 August 2013 (EDT)
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Huh, I guess that's the end of Smash Arena. I stopped following it a few years back. RIP. --[[User:Meester Tweester|Meester Tweester]] ([[User talk:Meester Tweester|talk]]) 00:15, April 16, 2020 (EDT)
===Comments===
::Smash Arena is on Discord now, the SA tab links to its page. [[:User:ZeldaStarfoxfan2164{{#if:|_({{{3}}})}}|ZeldaStarfoxfan2164]] ([[User talk:ZeldaStarfoxfan2164|talk]]) is a never lover boy  23:21, April 23, 2020 (EDT)
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==Round 256: [[Sheik]] vs. [[Greninja]]==
==Round 199: [[Samus]] vs. [[Ridley]]==
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#I hate Ridley because everyone wants him in SSB4 and that can't work! <span style="font-family:RAGE ITALIC">[[User:Terrible|<span style="color:grey">Terrible</span>]] [[User talk:Terrible|<span style="color:green">is</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Terrible|<span style="color:grey">Terrible</span>]]</span> 11:01, 10 August 2013 (EDT)
#Samus has killed Ridley multiple times. The reverse isn't true. [[User:Mr. Anon|<font color="grey">'''Mr. '''</font><font color="midnightblue">'''Anon'''</font>]][[File:Anon.png|23px|link=Special:Random]][[User talk:Mr. Anon|''<span style="color: black;">talk</span>'']]  11:31, 10 August 2013 (EDT)
#He has an awkward figure that wouldn't really transition well into smash. Keep him as a boss. <span style="font-family:Triforce, sans-serif;">'''[[User:Dr. Pain 99|<font color=#008000>D<font color=#008019>o<font color=#008031>c<font color=#008049>t<font color=#008062>o<font color=#008080>rP</font>a</font>i</font>n</font>9</font>9</font>]]'''</span> 16:17, 10 August 2013 (EDT)
#Super Metroid, anyone? <span style="font-family: Sonic XBd BT; font-size: 12pt"> [[User:Conny|<font color="black">Con</font>]][[User talk:Conny|<font color="gray">ny</font>]] [[File:Airconny Snake Sig.png|20px]] </span> 16:42, 10 August 2013 (EDT)
#[[Special:Contributions/198.53.20.219|198.53.20.219]] 20:32, 10 August 2013 (EDT)
#Ridley is just creeping me out.. because.. that face... and besides does ppl really think that Ridley should be in ssb4? Pfft.. [[User:Cobravictim|Cobravictim]] ([[User talk:Cobravictim|talk]])
#Samus has killed Ridley a ton of times, making her dominant. Also, I don't think that Ridley shoud be in SSB4, in my opinion it's just ridiculous. No matter what, it's not going to happen.--[[User:Iguy2002|Iguy2002]] ([[User talk:Iguy2002|talk]]) 17:33, 12 August 2013 (EDT)
#I happen to like Samus's design more and think her attacks are all around better then Ridley's attacks shown off in the Metroid series. --[[User:Yoponot|Water, Earth, Fire, Air]] ([[User talk:Yoponot|talk]]) 12:11, 13 August 2013 (EDT)
#Better character design imo. <font style="font-family:arial narrow">[[User:LightningBlue|<font style="color:royalblue">'''Lightning'''</font>]][[User talk:LightningBlue|<font style="color:darkblue">'''Blue'''</font>]]</font>[[File:405MS.png|link=Special:Contributions/LightningBlue]] 13:10, 13 August 2013 (EDT)
#Regardless of whether or not Ridley would work for SSB4, Samus still kicks his ass.--[[User:Starman125|Starman125]] ([[User talk:Starman125|talk]]) 15:28, 13 August 2013 (EDT)
#Actually, I decided I like Samus more. ZSS is fun, I like her backstory, and I've generally not liked bosses as characters, even if they're designed cool like Ridley. --[[User:Timson622222|Timson622222]] ([[User talk:Timson622222|talk]]) 18:27, 13 August 2013 (EDT)
#Samus' artwork in SSB4 has her in the "Ezio" pose. Sold. '''''[[User:HavocReaper48|<span style="color:GOLDENROD; font-family:envirod;">--HavocReaper</span>]][[User talk:HavocReaper48|<span style="color:GOLD; font-family:envirod;">48</span>]]''''' 23:58, 13 August 2013 (EDT)
#[[User:Bandit|<span style="background:#800080;border-top:solid red 2px;border-right:solid blue 2px;border-bottom:solid blue 2px;border-left:solid red 2px;color:magenta">'''''Bandit'''''</span>]] 19:41, 14 August 2013 (EDT)
#I like Samus a lot especially how she sometime takes her suit off[[Special:Contributions/5.0.43.159|5.0.43.159]] 17:12, 15 August 2013 (EDT)
#I like her attacks and design more,so Samus for the win!--[[User:Cakeizgud|Cakeizgud]] ([[User talk:Cakeizgud|talk]]) 19:10, 15 August 2013 (EDT)
#ZERO SUIT SAMUS! Final Smash! Female. Hot. Enough said. Oh, I'm voting for Power Suit Samus? Eh, same person. [[User:SeanWheeler|SeanWheeler]] ([[User talk:SeanWheeler|talk]]) 12:14, 16 August 2013 (EDT)


#Hmm some weird frog thing or a ninja of royalty? <span style="font-family:Algerian;font-size:10pt;background:#000;border:outset #083 2px;padding:1px">'''[[User:Serpent King|<span style="color:#083">Serpent</span>]] [[File:SKSig.png|12px|link=]] [[User talk:Serpent King|<span style="color:#ed0">King</span>]]'''</span> 00:44, 16 December 2017 (EST)
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#Yeah Sheik is 10x more fun to play at high level, and way more interesting to watch than Greninja most of the time. <span style="color:Green;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px skyblue">'''--'''</span>[[User:Penro|<span style="color:Red; text-shadow: 0px 0px 3px red">'''Pen'''</span>]][[User talk:Penro|<span style="color:Black; text-shadow: 0px 0px 3px black">'''ro'''</span>]] 08:41, 19 December 2017 (EST)
#I don't wanna argue with those who think that Ridley could work in SSB4, so I'll just insert my vote and go away.[[User:ToonMegaman|ToonMegaman]] ([[User talk:ToonMegaman|talk]]) 16:54, 10 August 2013 (EDT)
#Fun fact: when I was in primary school, I once wore a similar disguise and was known as Sheik for that day. <span style="font-family:Mario Party 2/3 Textbox">[[User:RickTommy|<span style="color:red">Rick</span>]][[User talk:RickTommy|<span style="color:green">Tommy</span>]]</span> 22:27, 11 January 2018 (EST)
#Well....I prefer Ridley but I guess I'll vote for Samus cause she always beats the crud out of Ridley. <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:107.211.34.20|107.211.34.20]] ([[User talk:107.211.34.20|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/107.211.34.20|contribs]]) 17:36, 10 August 2013 (EDT)</small>
#Sheik has a grenade, martial arts training, needles, and exploding walnuts. Greninja has a long-ass tongue, a log, and a crappy doll. Who would you choose? [[User:Iron Gladiator|Iron Reggie, Master of Memes]] ([[User talk:Iron Gladiator|talk]]) 02:04, 28 January 2018 (EST)
#I like both of them but I like Sheik more cuz top tier [[User:SmileFtw123|SmileFtw123]] ([[User talk:SmileFtw123|talk]]) 03:05, 30 January 2018 (EST)
#I think I prefer Sheik a little bit more, so I guess I'll place my vote here.--[[Special:Contributions/192.197.128.21|192.197.128.21]] 13:16, 2 February 2018 (EST)
#I prefer Sheik's aesthetic design, and Greninja isn't a very good starter in my opinion. Neither is great to me, but I prefer Sheik. --[[User:UnbeatableSith|UnbeatableSith]] ([[User talk:UnbeatableSith|talk]]) 21:41, 16 March 2018 (EDT)
# [[Special:Contributions/174.53.1.71|174.53.1.71]] 10:57, 5 February 2018 (EST)
#She has a chain. [[User:Pokebub|Pokebub]] ([[User talk:Pokebub|talk]]) 22:43, 16 March 2018 (EDT)
#I can't stand fighting against Greninja, and Sheik was one of my mains in Brawl. Also, I feel like she has a higher chance of making it into Smash 5. [[User:TheNuttyOne|TheNuttyOne]] 15:58, 11 April 2018 (EDT)
 
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#Shiek is better <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:24.234.62.218 |24.234.62.218 ]] ([[User talk:24.234.62.218 |talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/24.234.62.218 |contribs]]) 23:22, 11 December 2017 (EST)</small>
#very good at aerial combos# <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:73.222.194.39|73.222.194.39]] ([[User talk:73.222.194.39|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/73.222.194.39|contribs]]) 03:46, 9 January 2018</small>
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===Votes for ''Greninja''===
===Votes for ''Ridley''===
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#I find Sheik's playstyle in SSB4 to be quite aggravating to play as or against. Greninja's not so frustrating. [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Verdana;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 01:32, 11 December 2017 (EST)
#I like Ridley. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[Image: TyranitarMS.png ]] 11:10, 10 August 2013 (EDT)
#Us Pokémon gotta stick together I guess. ''[[User:Alex Parpotta|<span style="color: blue;">'''Alex Parpotta'''</span>]] the [[User talk:Alex Parpotta|<span style="color: red;">'''flying lobster!'''</span>]]'' 04:54, 11 December 2017 (EST)
#Space dragons are cool. [[User:Scr7|<font style="color:#0000FF">S</font>]][[User talk:Scr7|<font style="color:#7F7FFF">c</font>]][[Special:Contributions/Scr7|<font style="color:#00FFFF">r</font>]][[Special:Editcount/Scr7|<font style="color:#FF7F00">7</font>]][[File:Wolfsig.png|19px|link=Special:PrefixIndex/User:Scr7]] 11:29, 10 August 2013 (EDT)
#I like ''Pokémon'' more, Greninja has appeared in more than just one canon game (discounting remakes), and its playstyle in ''Smash'' is far more interesting to watch. [[File:034.png|20px]] '''<span style="font-family:Algerian">[[User:DracoRexKing|<font color="red">DracoRex,]]</font> [[User talk:DracoRexKing|<font color="olive">Creator of the Land]]</font></span>''' 07:45, 11 December 2017 (EST)
#'Cause I don't want the outcome to be obvious, what with the hero always prevailing in the end kind of thing. Also, at least we always see Ridley's face, unlike Samus. [[Special:Contributions/71.105.121.171|71.105.121.171]] 11:43, 10 August 2013 (EDT)
#Greninja is a great Pokémon and he did appear in Sun and Moon as a present. Greninja's playstyle in ''Smash 4'' is... awesome! [[User:Dragonfirebreath25|Dragonfirebreath25]] ([[User talk:Dragonfirebreath25|talk]]) 09:33, 13 December 2017 (EST)
#Ridley is cool. [[User:Boo Buddy|<font style="color:black">Boo</font>]] [[User talk:Boo Buddy|<font style="color:black">Buddy</font>]][[File:Haunter MS.png|19px]] 12:46, 10 August 2013 (EDT)
#R.I.P Sheik after Melee. The Smash 4 Sheik combo game is nothing like its predecessor. also I love the hydro pump jank [[User:Lasagna|lasagna B)]] ([[User talk:Lasagna|talk]]) 10:27, 13 December 2017 (EST)
#I'm voting for Ridley just because of how stupid Terrible's reason is. [[User:ToastUltimatum|{{Color|#ff8c00|'''Toast'''}}]] [[File:Wii U Logo Transparent.png|17px|link=Special:Contributions/ToastUltimatum]][[User talk:ToastUltimatum|{{Color|#01a3c4|'''ltimatum'''}}]][[File:Transparent Swadloon.png|26px]] 12:57, 10 August 2013 (EDT)
#In Smash 5 Greninja's Final Smash should be Ash-Greninja. [[Special:Contributions/24.52.19.237|24.52.19.237]] 19:50, 15 December 2017 (EST)
#Oh man, this one is close. I never really liked Samus as a fighter, so my vote is for the Pterodactyl-Dinosaur-Space-Monster-Thingy. [[User:Washi|<font style="color:#FF0000">Wa</font>]][[User talk:Washi|<font style="color:#00FF00">shi</font>]][[File:Washi signature.png|19px]] 13:03, 10 August 2013 (EDT)
#Better nerf Greninja <span style="font-family:AR JULIAN; font-size:12pt">[[User:ChuckNorris24|<span style="color:red">Chuck</span>]][[User talk:ChuckNorris24|<span style="color:green">Norris</span>]]</span>[[File:24.png|23px]]  23:10, 15 December 2017 (EST)
#[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_b_w7j8QjAg This is enough of a reason alone.] <span style="font-family: AR DARLING; font-size: 12pt"> [[User:DarkFox01|{{Color|black|Dark}}]][[User talk:DarkFox01|{{Color|darkred|Fox}}]][[Special:Contributions/DarkFox01|{{Color|red|01}}]]</span>[[File:DF01Sig.png|19px]]I see them up ahead. Let’s rock and roll! 19:05, 10 August 2013 (EDT)
#{{Sm|iStudying}}. Nuff said. [[User:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: red;">'''Aidan'''</span>]], [[User talk:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: green;">'''the Festive Rurouni'''</span>]] 20:52, 18 December 2017 (EST)
#Who doesn't like big and cool space dragons?[[User:TheAtomicFire|<span style="color:orange">TheAtomic</span>]][[User talk:TheAtomicFire|<span style="color:red">Fire</span>]] [[File:BluePichu.png]] 10:16, 11 August 2013 (EDT)
#--[[Special:Contributions/23.17.208.28|23.17.208.28]] 01:46, 24 January 2018 (EST)
#Because Ridley is awesome. [[User:Superstarxalien169|Superstarxalien169&#39;s smashbox.]] ([[User talk:Superstarxalien169|talk]]) 22:47, 11 August 2013 (EDT)
#Greninja is just the character I think is cooler (although ANY ninja gets cool points). I do hope they change his final smash, however, if he's gonna be in Smash 5 [[User:Crazy456Rhino|Crazy456Rhino]] ([[User talk:Crazy456Rhino|talk]]) 12:02, 9 March 2018 (EST)
#I would laugh so hard if he's a character in SSB4. [[User:Dots|<font color="red">Do</font>]][[User talk:Dots|<font color="blue">t</font><font color="purple">s</font>]] [[File:MewtwoMS.png]] The Bold 00:33, 12 August 2013 (EDT)
#I love Greninja so much. He's the best of my four mains, and I hope he's in Smash 5! [[User:Capnap64|Capnap64]] ([[User talk:Capnap64|talk]]) 09:33, 4 April 2018 (EDT)
#Ridley might be too big to be playable in SSB4, but Ridley's so awesome, he has a chance. But Samus is nothing compared to Ridley. --[[User:LavaKirby|<span style="color: red;">'''Lava'''</span>]][[User talk:LavaKirby|<span style="color: orange;">'''Kirby'''</span>]] 12:12, 12 August 2013 (EDT)
#Greninja is fun. Sheik is not. Sheik is aggravating, both to play as and against. Greninja is not. Greninja is a hecking awesome ninja that can literally make shurikens out of water! Sheik just throws needles at people and plays a harp. Enough said. [[Special:Contributions/72.133.91.93|72.133.91.93]] 08:05, 10 May 2018 (EDT) Blueflame105
#Ridley is just awesome. [[User:Awesomelink234|Awesomelink234]] ([[User talk:Awesomelink234|talk]]) 21:13, 12 August 2013 (EDT)
#herp a derp ridley's too big to be a character in smash bros <span style="font-family:AR JULIAN; font-size:12pt">[[User:ChuckNorris24|<span style="color:brown">Chuck</span>]][[User talk:ChuckNorris24|<span style="color:brown">Norris</span>]]</span>[[File:24.png|23px]] 10:27, 13 August 2013 (EDT)
#RIPLEY SCOTT!!!!!!....oh wait.....XENOMORPH!!!!I mean.......dammit.<span style="font-family:Sketch1">[[User:MegiBeelzebub|<span style="color:green">Megi</span>]][[User talk:MegiBeelzebub|<span style="color:black">Beelzebub</span>]]</span> [[File:MegiBeelzebub.png|19px]] 19:26, 13 August 2013 (EDT)
#He is the char I want most for Smash 4. Well, next to Lara Croft... [[User:RoyboyX|<font color="red">'''Roy'''</font><font color="gray">'''boy'''</font><font color="darkred">'''X'''</font>]] [[User talk:RoyboyX|''<span style="color:brown;">'''Talk'''</span>'']] 19:44, 13 August 2013 (EDT)
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# I would vote for Samus, but Ridley needs some attentionn. He needs to be in Smash bros.! <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:124.169.38.128|124.169.38.128]] ([[User talk:124.169.38.128|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/124.169.38.128|contribs]]) 04:49, 15 August 2013‎ </small>
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Shouldn't this match have been decided, like, several weeks ago? [[User:Iron Warrior|<span style="color: red;">'''Iron Reggie,'''</span>]] [[User talk:Iron Warrior|<span style="color: cyan;">'''Master of Memes'''</span>]] 10:31, 26 February 2018 (EST)
Terrible, that's kind of a stupid reason to not vote for Ridley. Besides, It can work for him to be in SSB4.[[User:TheAtomicFire|<span style="color:orange">TheAtomic</span>]][[User talk:TheAtomicFire|<span style="color:red">Fire</span>]] [[File:BluePichu.png]] 10:12, 11 August 2013 (EDT)
:''Any comments about the fight should be left in the comments section. The following kinds of comments are not allowed:
:*Comments about other users' opinions. You can point out that a user may have gotten a fact wrong, but you can't say things such as "That's not a good reason" or "But the other guy is better because X". Users can vote for any reason they want; trying to argue with someone's opinion generally has no positive outcome, in addition to simply inflating the comments section of an already large page.''
 
:Don't try to argue with another user on Smash Arena. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[Image: TyranitarMS.png ]] 10:35, 11 August 2013 (EDT)


This js still going? Currently Sheik 11, Greninja 12. [[User:SmileFtw123]] [[User talk:SmileFtw123]]
:This is also aimed at DP99 and Toast, don't address other users' reasoning or call their reasoning dumb, don't start arguments on Smash Arena. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[Image: TyranitarMS.png ]] 10:37, 11 August 2013 (EDT)
Smileftw the tier list dose not matter im a dedede and jiggly main


Seriously, this should have happened months ago! Who's in charge of Smash Arena anyway? Blueflame105
I just realized that IP 198.53.20.219 has already voted. If that's the exact same person, the extra vote should be removed.[[Special:Contributions/71.105.121.171|71.105.121.171]] 22:40, 11 August 2013 (EDT)


Ay, they did change his final smash for Smash 5. Nice. [[User:Crazy456Rhino|Crazy456Rhino]] ([[User talk:Crazy456Rhino|talk]]) 15:18, November 5, 2019 (EST)
Really people, Smash Arena is not for arguing and this isn't about arguing if Ridley should be in Smash 4 or not. Stop making votes arguing about it. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[Image: TyranitarMS.png ]] 13:05, 13 August 2013 (EDT)
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