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==Round 159: [[No KO]] vs. [[CD Factory]]==
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===Votes for ''No KO''===
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#No one can escape my clutches of evil.[[User:Shanicpower|<font color="cadetblue">Shanic</font>]][[User talk:Shanicpower|<font color="red">'''power'''</font>]][[File:Shanicpower.png|19px]] [[Special:Contributions/Shanicpower|Make it rain!]] 10:42, 13 October 2012 (EDT)
#You can't run, and you can't hide![[Special:Contributions/174.20.251.84|174.20.251.84]] 11:27, 13 October 2012 (EDT)
#I always disapproved of farming for collectibles the way of the CD Factory, I'd rather it be done the slow and fun way, whereas No KO, I often see used well in machinimas, as a sort of jail cell, mostly using drop blocks in the place of spikes. That gives it the edge to me. [[User:ToastUltimatum|<font color="ff8c00">'''Toast'''</font>]] [[File:Wii U Logo Transparent.png|17px|link=Special:Contributions/ToastUltimatum]][[User talk:ToastUltimatum|<font color="01a3c4">'''ltimatum'''</font>]][[File:Transparent Swadloon.png|26px]] 11:38, 13 October 2012 (EDT)
#Great for Stamina battles. [[User:Bandit|<span style="background:rgba(255, 128, 0, 0.25);font-family:myriad pro;font-size:13pt;color:hsl(175,100%,50%)">Bandit</span>]] 11:40, 13 October 2012 (EDT)
#The very first article I ever wrote is finally on the Smash Arena. [[User:Mr. Anon|<font color="grey">'''Mr. '''</font><font color="midnightblue">'''Anon'''</font>]][[File:Anon.png|23px|link=Special:Random]][[User talk:Mr. Anon|''<span style="color: black;">talk</span>'']]  11:53, 13 October 2012 (EDT)
#What I do is for this stage is the last person who gets to 999% wins. [[User:Terrible|<font color="grey">Terrible</font>]] [[User talk:Terrible|<font color="green">is</font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Terrible|<font color="orange">Halloween</font>]] 11:58, 13 October 2012 (EDT)
#Elimination Chamber, this is. Except no one's eliminated by KO. [[Special:Contributions/71.199.133.103|71.199.133.103]] 12:08, 13 October 2012 (EDT)
#The best thing is nobody dies!! [[User:The Awesome|<font color="Blue">'''''The'''''</font>]] [[User talk:The Awesome|<font color="Blue">'''''Awesome'''''</font>]]  12:09, 13 October 2012 (EDT)
#Then nobody gets hurt.... [[User:Dots|Dots]] [[User talk:Dots|The]] [[Special:Contributions/Dots|Cute Asian]] [[File:NintenNESsprite.png|19px]] 12:36, 13 October 2012 (EDT)
#A lot of damage challenge. <font face="Arial">[[User:ShupaRoeh|<font color="red">Shu</font><font color="green">pa]][[User Talk:ShupaRoeh|</font><font color="blue">Roeh</font></font>]][[File:TypicalGuy.png|19px|link=Special:Contributions/ShupaRoeh]] 14:01, 13 October 2012 (EDT)
#CD Factory's cheap. <span style="font-family:AR DESTINE">[[User:Air Conditioner|<span style="color:#1EA6D4">Air</span>]] [[User talk:Air Conditioner|<span style="color:#18C4C1">Conditioner</span>]]</span> [[File:AC.png|19px]] 25 or 6 to 4!!! 19:12, 13 October 2012 (EDT)
#No trick so cheap as a CD Factory for me! [[Special:Contributions/24.168.91.249|24.168.91.249]] 20:58, 13 October 2012 (EDT)
#999 Damage! <span style="font-family:AR JULIAN; font-size:12pt">[[User:ChuckNorris24|<span style="color:brown">Chuck</span>]][[User talk:ChuckNorris24|<span style="color:brown">Norris</span>]]</span>[[File:24.png|23px]]  12:14, 14 October 2012 (EDT)
#--[[Special:Contributions/64.130.179.5|64.130.179.5]] 15:35, 14 October 2012 (EDT)
#Lets you cause so much '''pain'''! BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!![[User:The Cheese|<font color="FFD700">'''''The'''''</font>]] [[User talk:The Cheese|<font color="FFD700">'''''Cheese'''''</font>]] [[File:The Cheese.png|19px]] 16:46, 14 October 2012 (EDT)
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===Votes for ''CD Factory''===
#Very helpful, especially when trying to get those last few stickers, which can be a pain to gather. The gimmick of No KO also tends to get boring after a little while, whereas CD Factory always has its use (and multiplayer ones can be an interesting custom stage to fight on). <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[Image: TyranitarMS.png ]] 11:56, 13 October 2012 (EDT)
#Helped me get those last few CDs without any obstacles getting in the way. [[Special:Contributions/204.191.143.100|204.191.143.100]] 12:36, 13 October 2012 (EDT)
# <span style="font-family:Estrangelo Edessa; font-size:12pt">[[User:FishPlay|<span style="color:cyan">Fish</span>]][[User talk:FishPlay|<span style="color:forestgreen">Play</span>]]</span> [[File:Spiked Pichu.png|19px]] 13:09, 13 October 2012 (EDT)
#This was incredibly useful for collecting the last few stickers, there was only so long I could tolerate playing through the Subspace Emissary levels to hunt for stickers. [[Special:Contributions/110.174.90.69|110.174.90.69]] 03:13, 14 October 2012 (EDT)

====Half-votes====
#What's the point of a stage where you can't kill people? And please don't answer that, it was rhetorical. [[User:Davsto|Davsto]] ([[User talk:Davsto|talk]]) 11:14, 13 October 2012 (EDT)
#I have never once used either of these stages; CDs, trophies and such always appeared easily for me, and No KO just seems like a five second thrill, if even that. But I'll give a slight benefit to the CD Factory for at least having a practical use. --- <font face="American Typewriter">''[[User:ReiDemon|Rei]][[User_talk:ReiDemon|Demon]], Author Extraordinaire''</font>, 12:49, 13 October 2012 (EDT)
#This would be really helpful if I could just get it to work. But it's stillfun to fight on. The No KO just looks stupid. It's way more fun if you get rid of the highest block on the left. Making it an Almost No KO. {{unsigned|Supersmash4|13:21, 2012 October 13‎}}
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==Round 158: [[Screw Attack (item)|Screw Attack]] (SSBM) vs. [[Screw Attack (item)|Screw Attack]] (SSBB)==
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size=5>'''Winner!!'''</font><br><font size=3>'''''Tie'''''</font><br>[[Image:SmashArenaTie.png|200px|center]]<br><font size=3>''16 to 16''</font><br>
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===<font color="#ffffff">Votes for ''Screw Attack (SSBM)''</font>===
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#More strategy involved. --- <font face="American Typewriter">''[[User:ReiDemon|Rei]][[User_talk:ReiDemon|Demon]], Author Extraordinaire''</font>, 23:58, 5 October 2012 (EDT)
#You can hold it forever, while the badge doesn't permanently stay. <font face="Arial">[[User:ShupaRoeh|<font color="red">Shu</font><font color="green">pa]][[User Talk:ShupaRoeh|</font><font color="blue">Roeh</font></font>]][[File:TypicalGuy.png|19px|link=Special:Contributions/ShupaRoeh]] 01:44, 6 October 2012 (EDT)
#It's more useful. You can hold onto it forever to use its primary effect, or you can throw at someone for high damage while launching them into the air in a helpless state (the only kind of attack in any Smash game that can do that). Plus, being able to hold it made it invaluable in the Multiman modes. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[Image: TyranitarMS.png ]] 06:06, 6 October 2012 (EDT)
#You can throw it to someone who's trying to recover and make them fall helplessly to their doom >:D [[User:Bandit|<span style="background:rgba(255, 128, 0, 0.25);font-family:myriad pro;font-size:13pt;color:hsl(119.25,100%,50%)">Bandit</span>]] 07:50, 6 October 2012 (EDT)
#Same as 2 and 3. [[User:Terrible|<font color="grey">Terrible</font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Terrible|<font color="green">is</font>]] [[User talk:Terrible|<font color="orange">Halloween</font>]] 08:55, 6 October 2012 (EDT)
#I find having to carry the item an inconvenience, as it will overwrite your A button attacks, and I've never yet used it to KO, but then I thought ''screw'' it, because it does seem fun to ''attack'' with. [[User:ToastUltimatum|<font color="ff8c00">'''Toast'''</font>]] [[File:Wii U Logo Transparent.png|17px|link=Special:Contributions/ToastUltimatum]][[User talk:ToastUltimatum|<font color="01a3c4">'''ltimatum'''</font>]][[File:Transparent Swadloon.png|26px]] 09:33, 6 October 2012 (EDT)
#The Brawl one looks cooler, but this one can be thrown at opponets. Being able to Screw Attack is good in Metroid, not Smash Bros. That's why whenever I got a Screw Attack in Melee, the first thing I'd do is throw it at an opponet. You can't do that in Brawl, so obviously the Melee version is the better one. [[User:Supersmash4|Supersmash4]] ([[User talk:Supersmash4|talk]]) 10:54, 6 October 2012 (EDT)
#This one is more useful, you can throw it as opposed to the ''Brawl'' one, when thrown at an opponent and hits them, you can punish them. <span style="font-family:Corbel; font-size:12pt">[[User:Smash Master|<span style="color:darkblue">'''Smash''']] [[User talk:Smash Master|<span style="color:darkgreen">'''Master'''</span>]]</span></span> 12:12, 6 October 2012 (EDT)
#I vote melee--[[User:Ikebandwaggon1|Ikebandwaggon1]] ([[User talk:Ikebandwaggon1|talk]]) 13:12, 6 October 2012 (EDT)
#The sound the comes when you hit someone with it is so awsome![[User:The Cheese|<font color="FFD700">'''''The'''''</font>]] [[User talk:The Cheese|<font color="FFD700">'''''Cheese'''''</font>]] [[File:The Cheese.png|19px]] 17:58, 7 October 2012 (EDT)
#The Brawl one feels like punishment to get because it hinders your jumping abilities..[[Special:Contributions/68.115.61.130|68.115.61.130]] 13:08, 9 October 2012 (EDT)
#In Melee, if you throw it at someone, they become helpless after Screw Attacking. I've had a few matches where a simple toss of a Screw Attack dispatches the opponent. Melee it is! [[User:Takava|Takava]] ([[User talk:Takava|talk]]) 18:14, 9 October 2012 (EDT)
#I had no idea what I should vote for. So I'm voting for this because I like navy better than that pink... purple... color... thing. <span style="font-family:AR DESTINE">[[User:Air Conditioner|<span style="color:#1EA6D4">Air</span>]] [[User talk:Air Conditioner|<span style="color:#18C4C1">Conditioner</span>]]</span> [[File:AC.png|19px]], a real nowhere man 20:31, 10 October 2012 (EDT)
#I never liked the Screw Attack but I feel like I should vote for this one. It has a nice retro feel to it. <span style="font-family:AR JULIAN; font-size:12pt">[[User:ChuckNorris24|<span style="color:brown">Chuck</span>]][[User talk:ChuckNorris24|<span style="color:brown">Norris</span>]]</span>[[File:24.png|23px]]  17:11, 11 October 2012 (EDT)
#For almost every reason mentioned above. [[User:Shanderu|<font color="purple">'''Shan'''</font>]][[User talk:Shanderu|<font style="color:darkorange;">'''deru'''</font>]] [[File:MiniGhost.png|16px]]  20:36, 11 October 2012 (EDT)
# <span style="font-family:Estrangelo Edessa; font-size:12pt">[[User:FishPlay|<span style="color:cyan">Fish</span>]][[User talk:FishPlay|<span style="color:forestgreen">Play</span>]]</span> [[File:Spiked Pichu.png|19px]] 21:05, 12 October 2012 (EDT)
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===Votes for ''Screw Attack (SSBB)''===
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#Does not put you into helpless state. [[User:Mr. Anon|<font color="grey">'''Mr. '''</font><font color="midnightblue">'''Anon'''</font>]][[File:Anon.png|23px|link=Special:Random]][[User talk:Mr. Anon|''<span style="color: black;">talk</span>'']]  23:57, 5 October 2012 (EDT)
#Flashy.[[Special:Contributions/204.191.143.100|204.191.143.100]] 00:00, 6 October 2012 (EDT)
#[[User:Dots|Dots]] [[User talk:Dots|The]] [[Special:Contributions/Dots|Cute Asian]] [[File:NintenNESsprite.png|19px]] 00:05, 6 October 2012 (EDT)
#Brawl's better than Melee! [[User:The Awesome|<font color="Blue">'''''The'''''</font>]] [[User talk:The Awesome|<font color="Blue">'''''Awesome'''''</font>]]  09:25, 6 October 2012 (EDT)
#I played Brawl, and I want to be able to see my vote. [[Special:Contributions/24.168.110.196|24.168.110.196]] 11:19, 6 October 2012 (EDT)
#This one's better 'cause one can attack aerially without throwing it and making your opponent spin jump to damage you. [[Special:Contributions/71.199.149.250|71.199.149.250]] 11:31, 6 October 2012 (EDT)
#Giving your opponent a new way to attack you is just stupid, even if throw damage is given. [[User:Toadat9021doh|Toadat9021doh]] ([[User talk:Toadat9021doh|talk]]) 11:49, 6 October 2012 (EDT)
#Not a finicky throwing item. ''[[User:JamesHeart123|<font color="blue">James</font>]][[User talk:JamesHeart123|<font color="orange">Heart</font>]][[Special:Contributions/JamesHeart123|<font color="black">123</font>]]'' 13:48, 7 October 2012 (EDT)
#Kinda indifferent on the execution by both, but this one's got a more slick design. [[User:Krazy4Krash|Krazy4Krash]] ([[User talk:Krazy4Krash|talk]]) 00:45, 8 October 2012 (EDT)
#[[User:SSBBNess|<span style="color: blue;">'''SSBBNess'''</span>]] ([[User talk:SSBBNess|<span style="color: orange;">talk</span>]]) [[File:SSBBNess sig image.png]] 13:27, 8 October 2012 (EDT)
#Because Brawl, that's why. Again... [[Special:Contributions/217.44.196.30|217.44.196.30]] 03:22, 9 October 2012 (EDT)
#Because this screw attack is better. [[User:The Cool|<font color="Red">'''''The'''''</font>]] [[User talk:The Cool|<font color="Red">'''''Cool'''''</font>]] 08:31, 9 October 2012 (EDT)
#My brother and I called this the 'cool jump' before we found out what it was. [[User:DragonMistress|DragonMistress]] ([[User talk:DragonMistress|talk]]) 12:24, 10 October 2012 (EDT)
#[[Special:Contributions/129.128.29.73|129.128.29.73]] 10:07, 11 October 2012 (EDT)
# I like the black coloration used for the ''Melee'' Screw Attack item variant, but I like the implementation ''Brawl'' variant better. I'd rather have the item as a Badge than as a singular item (which prevents me from using other attacks or holding other items) despite the shortened usage time in ''Brawl''; the Screw Attack item also seems cooler being used as a "Badge".  Also, see Screw Attack (''SSB Brawl'') Votes #6 and #7. [[User:Fenyx4|Fenyx4]] ([[User talk:Fenyx4|talk]]) 20:12, 12 October 2012 (EDT)
# To make things a little interesting. [[User:Brawls of fury|Brawls of fury]] ([[User talk:Brawls of fury|talk]]) 01:46, 13 October 2012 (EDT)
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Black text against a navy background is a horrible, horrible idea. [[Special:Contributions/24.168.110.196|24.168.110.196]] 11:18, 6 October 2012 (EDT)
:I agree with this sentiment, I have to highlight the text to read it. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[Image: TyranitarMS.png ]] 11:21, 6 October 2012 (EDT)
::The colour is 15 units above the automatic white-text level, but since you complained I'll bump it in. [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[Image:Toomai.png|20px|link=User:Toomai/Bin|???]] The Frivolous 11:23, 6 October 2012 (EDT)
LOL at ToastUltimatum's Screw Attack pun (Screw Attack (''SSB Melee'') Vote #6). XD  Also, I love this match's description; it also rolls nicely off the tongue when said aloud. [[User:Fenyx4|Fenyx4]] ([[User talk:Fenyx4|talk]]) 20:12, 12 October 2012 (EDT)
:Pun opposes your point of holding an item "screwing" the item. <font face="Arial">[[User:ShupaRoeh|<font color="red">Shu</font><font color="green">pa]][[User Talk:ShupaRoeh|</font><font color="blue">Roeh</font></font>]][[File:TypicalGuy.png|19px|link=Special:Contributions/ShupaRoeh]] 20:55, 12 October 2012 (EDT)
When will this be over!? [[User:Terrible|<font color="grey">Terrible</font>]] [[User talk:Terrible/Terrible|<font color="green">is</font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Terrible|<font color="orange">Halloween</font>]] 09:41, 13 October 2012 (EDT)
:The matches usually last until Friday/Saturday, so a new match should be up sometime today. ''[[User:JamesHeart123|<font color="blue">James</font>]][[User talk:JamesHeart123|<font color="orange">Heart</font>]][[Special:Contributions/JamesHeart123|<font color="black">123</font>]]'' 09:56, 13 October 2012 (EDT)
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