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Ladies and gentlemen, welcome, editors and users, to the '''[[SmashWiki:Smash Arena|Smash Arena]]'''! Each week (or possibly less often, if the [[SW:SSS|wiki's status]] is high or there's not much voter traffic) this forum hosts a tussle between two (or  sometimes three!) characters, items, stages or anything else from the [[Super Smash Bros. (series)|''Super Smash Bros.'' series]]! The winner gets, well, nothing. It's more of a poll but functionally, this is a popularity contest. You may vote for your favorite or who you think would win in a competition between the two combatants that round. No, you don't have to vote for the character with strength & power, or the stage considered more "fair", or the combatant with the most fans - just vote if you are a total fanboy of the participant. So what are you waiting for? Get voting!
Ladies and Gentlemen, welcome, editors and users, to the '''Smash Arena'''! Each week this forum hosts a tussle between two characters, items, stages or anything else from the [[Super Smash Bros. (series)|''Super Smash Bros.'' series]]! The winner gets, well, nothing. It's more of a poll but functionally, this is a popularity contest. You may vote for your favorite or who you think would win in an competition between the two combatants that round. No, you don't have to vote for the character with strength & power, or the stage considered more "fair", just vote if you are a total fanboy of the participant. So what are you waiting for? Get voting! Remember, you don't have to have an account to vote! If you have any requests for future fights, please feel free to leave a message [[Forum:Suggestions|here]].


==The Rules==
==The Rules==
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#There is a line in each section consisting of "DO NOT ADD COMMENTS OR EDIT ANYTHING BELOW THIS LINE". You are to follow this rule; do not just type your vote at the bottom of the editing window. Not following this rule results in your vote being displayed in the wrong place.
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#You may vote only in the current fight; all previous fights are closed.
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#If there are multiple fights in a single round, try to make all your votes in a single edit.
#If there are multiple fights in a single round, try to make all your votes in a single edit.
#Any comments about the fight should be left in the comments section. The following kinds of comments are not allowed:
#Any comments about the fight should be left in the comments section. The following kinds of comments are not allowed:
#*Comments relating to how close or one-sided a matchup is.
#*Comments relating to how close or one-sided a matchup is.
#*Comments about other users' opinions. You can point out that a user may have gotten a fact wrong, but you can't say things such as "That's not a good reason" or "But the other guy is better because X". Users can vote for any reason they want; trying to argue with someone's opinion generally has no positive outcome, in addition to simply inflating the comments section of an already large page.
#*Comments about other users' opinions. You can point out that a user may have gotten a fact wrong, but you can't say things along the lines of "That's not a good reason" or "But the other guy is better because X". Users can vote for any reason they want; trying to argue with someone's opinion generally has no positive outcome, in addition to simply inflating the comments section of an already rather long page.
#**Similarly, avoid writing votes that may invite an argument. Stating your opinion is fine, but don't make it easy for others to see it as goading.
 
If your vote is not added correctly - specifically, it breaks rules 3, 4, or 5 - you have a short amount of time to fix it (typically between fifteen minutes to an hour). After this time, it may be corrected and moved by any user to the Half-Votes section (adding the [[Template:Unsigned|unsigned template]] if necessary), and it will count as half a vote. Attempting to move your vote out of the Half-Votes section may result in it being worth zero at an operator's discretion.
 
Intentional half-votes undermine the intent of the half-vote system as a way to punish voters for voting incorrectly. It is legal to want a vote to be worth half, but it is very heavily discouraged, and you must state in your vote you want it to be worth half.
 
=Round 125: The Five-By-Five-By-Five Special=


If your vote is not added correctly - specifically, it breaks rules 3, 4, or 5 - you have a short amount of time to fix it (typically between fifteen minutes to an hour). After this time, it may be corrected and moved by any user to the Half-Votes section (adding the [[Template:Unsigned|unsigned template]] if necessary), and it will count as half a vote. Other users should not fix such broken votes without also making them half-votes. Your vote will also be considered a half-vote if your edit causes someone else's valid vote to break one of these rules. Attempting to move your vote out of the Half-Votes section may result in it being worth zero (and subsequently deleted) at an operator's discretion.
==[[Mewtwo]] vs. [[Lucario]]==
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Multiple votes in a round are not allowed; attempts to circumvent this with [[sockpuppet]]s will result in all your votes being deleted, and is a blockable offense. Probated users who attempt to circumvent their probation with sockpuppets are also committing a blockable offense and will have their vote discounted. Remember that admins have access to CheckUser to check the IPs of any user, and will use it when sockpuppetry is suspected.
===Votes for ''Mewtwo''===
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#It's been 115 rounds, and I still regret him not being in Brawl. I put him on my SSB4 roster, and I think he should be alongside Lucario in ''Brawl'' right now. [[User:MeleeMarth01|MeleeMarth01]] ([[User talk:MeleeMarth01|talk]]) 20:09, 10 February 2012 (EST)
#Mewtwo was ''the'' Pokémon to have, and you had to spend ages fighting it multiple times to finally capture it, having to restart the Game Boy so many times. Lucario comes out of an egg. How exciting. --- <font face="American Typewriter">''[[User:ReiDemon|Rei]][[User_talk:ReiDemon|Demon]], Author Extraordinaire''</font>, 20:15, 10 February 2012 (EST)
#Third favorite pokemon and I agree with MeleeMarth01 and ReiDemon. [[User:.....|.....]] [[User talk:.....|Bein']] [[Special:Contributions/.....|Friends]] 20:22, 10 February 2012 (EST)
# Wish they would of put him in brawl...[[User:Yoshirocks341|<font color="green">'''Yoshi'''</font><font color="darkbrown">'''rocks'''</font>]][[User talk:Yoshirocks341|<font color="gold">'''341'''</font>]] [[Image:YoshiHeadSSBB.png|19px]] 21:13, 10 February 2012 (EST)
# Mewtwo is one of my favorites. First, his down special in Melee is really useful. Second, he is a genetically recreation of [[Mew]], an awesome pokemon. Finally, his fame actually came when he was replaced by [[Lucario]] (I get it you all want him in SSB4). [[User:LightningBlue|<font style="color:midnightblue;font-family:arial black">'''LightningBlue:</font>]] [[User talk:LightningBlue|<font style="color:turquoise;font-family:arial black">'''Electric!</font>]] 23:19, 10 February 2012 (EST)
# SSBM secondary. [[User:Mr. Anon|<font color="grey">'''Mr. '''</font><font color="midnightblue">'''Anon'''</font>]][[File:Anon.png|23px|link=Special:Random]][[User talk:Mr. Anon|''<span style="color: black;">talk</span>'']]  23:24, 10 February 2012 (EST)
# Good Lord is Frieza a Pokèmon?!?! Then Lucario is Goku.....lay him out Space Lizard :3[[User:Drakon64|<font color="forestgreen">'''Drakon'''</font><font color="seablue">'''6'''</font>]][[User talk:Drakon64|<font color="gold">'''4'''</font>]]  [[File:CharizardHeadSSBB.png|19px]]|
#In a Gen. III game. ''[[Special:Contributions/JamesHeart123|<font color="green">123</font>]][[User:JamesHeart123|<font color="blue">James</font>]][[User talk:JamesHeart123|<font color="purple">Heart</font>]]'' [[file:PatheticStickFigure.jpg|20px|link=Special:Random]] 00:34, 11 February 2012 (EST)
#Lucario=Mewtwo clone. 'Nuff said. [[User:Bowzerdude|<font color="green">'''Bowzer'''</font><font color="yellow">'''dude'''</font>]][[User talk:Bowzerdude|<font color="red">'''- Pure Epicness!'''</font>]] [[File:BowserHeadSSBM.png|BowserHeadSSBM.png|19px]]  04:18, 11 February 2012 (EST)
#Mewtwo rocks, even if he doesn't. '''''[[User:HavocReaper48|<span style="color:maroon;">--Havoc</span>]][[User talk:HavocReaper48|<span style="color:brown;">48</span>]]<span style="color:navy;"> >:D!!!</span>''''' 11:55, 11 February 2012 (EST)
#I can't get a good feel for Lucario. [[Special:Contributions/107.7.54.122|107.7.54.122]] 13:41, 11 February 2012 (EST)
#My Melee main. [[User:Unknown the Hedgehog|<font color="#FF0000">Unknown </font>]] [[User talk:Unknown the Hedgehog|<font color="#780000">the </font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Unknown the Hedgehog|<font color="#000000">Hedgehog</font>]] 13:51, 11 February 2012 (EST)
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#Well, since Mewtwo is from Melee, which is much better than Brawl in my opinion... [[User:RickTommy|RickTommy]] ([[User talk:RickTommy|talk]]) 18:00, 11 February 2012 (EST)


Intentional half-votes undermine the intent of the half-vote system as a way to punish voters for voting incorrectly. It is legal to want a vote to be worth half, but it is very heavily discouraged, and you must state in your vote you want it to be worth half. If you put your vote in the half-votes section without stating reasons why you want it there, it is worth zero and may be deleted by any user. You may replace it later should you do it correctly.
===Votes for ''Lucario''===
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#Never got a chance to ever be Mewtwo and still I like Mew better so I think I like Lucario more even though Mewtwo will get more votes. o_0--<span style="font-family:Corbel; font-size:12pt">[[User:YoshiEggs|<span style="color:forestgreen">'''Yoshi'''</span>]][[User talk:YoshiEggs|<span style="color:forestgreen">'''Eggs'''</span>]]</span> [[File:YoshiEggsSig.gif|19px]]  19:31, 10 February 2012 (EST)
#Never liked Mewtwo that much, always found him to be slightly overrated, Lucario on the other hand I've always liked. [[Special:Contributions/110.174.90.69|110.174.90.69]] 01:35, 11 February 2012 (EST)
#I've always preferred Lucario over Mewtwo in the main games. ☆<span style="font-family:Algerian">[[User:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:green">The</span> <span style="color:red">Solar</span> <span style="color:blue">Dragon</span>]] <sup>([[User talk:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:gold">Talk</span>]] - [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon|Contribs.]])</sup></span>☆ 04:28, 11 February 2012 (EST)
#As a fighter, I prefer Mewtwo, but as a Pokémon, I prefer Lucario. To think this was once a tie... [[User:ToastUltimatum|<font color="ff8c00">'''Toast'''</font>]] [[File:Wii U Logo Transparent.png|17px|link=Special:Contributions/ToastUltimatum]][[User talk:ToastUltimatum|<font color="01a3c4">'''ltimatum'''</font>]][[File:Transparent Swadloon.png|26px]] 06:17, 11 February 2012 (EST)
#Mewtwo has no final smash! Awkward, but Lucario uses an epic final smash! U would have wanted Mewtwo to have a final smash, right?[[Special:Contributions/72.136.208.84|72.136.208.84]] 09:34, 11 February 2012 (EST)
#Mew is a clone of Mew.[[Special:Contributions/24.23.157.0|24.23.157.0]] 10:53, 11 February 2012 (EST)
#[[Special:Contributions/204.191.136.150|204.191.136.150]] 11:18, 11 February 2012 (EST)
#<span style="font-family:Agency FB; font-size:12pt">[[User:BlindColours|<font color="black">'''Blind'''</font>]]</span><span style="font-family: Berlin Sans FB; font-size:12pt">[[User talk:BlindColours|<font color="red">C</font><font color="purple">ol</font>]][[ Special:Contributions/BlindColours|<font color="green">ou</font><font color="seablue">rs</font>]]</span> [[File:Boing.png|50px]] 11:25, 11 February 2012 (EST)
#Mewtwo is so awkward to play as -_-'''<font face="Algerian">[[User:Avengingbandit|<font color="#00FFFF">THE</font>]][[User talk:Avengingbandit|<font color="#FF00FF">AVENGING</font>]][[Special:Contributions/Avengingbandit|<font color="#FFFF00">BANDIT</font>]]</font>''' 11:26, 11 February 2012 (EST)
#FEEL THE POWER OF AURA!!![[Special:Contributions/174.20.242.17|174.20.242.17]] 15:46, 11 February 2012 (EST)
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Above all, remember that '''voting in the Smash Arena is a privilege, not a right'''. In the vein of [[SW:NOT|what SmashWiki is not]], you are expected to at least attempt reasonable contributions to the wiki if you wish to retain your privilege to participate.
===Comments===
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Just a general comment, why are there still people who believe Lucario is a clone? [[User:Mr. Anon|<font color="grey">'''Mr. '''</font><font color="midnightblue">'''Anon'''</font>]][[File:Anon.png|23px|link=Special:Random]][[User talk:Mr. Anon|''<span style="color: black;">talk</span>'']] 18:54, 11 February 2012 (EST)
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==Round 257: [[Mushroom Kingdom II]] vs. [[Magicant]]==
==[[Battleship Halberd]] vs. [[Great Fox]]==
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|colspan="2" style="background:#dfdfdf; text-align:center" valign="top"|<font size=5>'''Winner!!'''</font><br><font size=3>'''''Magicant'''''</font><br>[[Image:SSB4 Magicant.jpg|225x225px|center]]<br><font size=3>''45 to 48''</font><br>
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===Votes for ''Mushroom Kingdom II''===
 
===Votes for ''Battleship Halberd''===
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# I've always loved the kirby series. The Halberd was a main icon of the game Kirby Super Star. [[User:LightningBlue|<font style="color:midnightblue;font-family:arial black">'''LightningBlue:</font>]] [[User talk:LightningBlue|<font style="color:turquoise;font-family:arial black">'''Electric!</font>]] 19:34, 10 February 2012 (EST)
# Ok I Vote Halberd!--<span style="font-family:Corbel; font-size:12pt">[[User:YoshiEggs|<span style="color:forestgreen">'''Yoshi'''</span>]][[User talk:YoshiEggs|<span style="color:forestgreen">'''Eggs'''</span>]]</span> [[File:YoshiEggsSig.gif|19px]]  19:37, 10 February 2012 (EST)
#A counterpick stage, and a place where one of the funniest fights I've ever played happened. Check out the comments. [[User:MeleeMarth01|MeleeMarth01]] ([[User talk:MeleeMarth01|talk]]) 20:09, 10 February 2012 (EST)
#Dat music, man... --- <font face="American Typewriter">''[[User:ReiDemon|Rei]][[User_talk:ReiDemon|Demon]], Author Extraordinaire''</font>, 20:15, 10 February 2012 (EST)
#I like the music and the Halberd could really do good if it was a unit in StarCraft ll. XD [[User:.....|.....]] [[User talk:.....|Bein']] [[Special:Contributions/.....|Friends]] 20:22, 10 February 2012 (EST)
# It's a little more eventful here then there.[[User:Yoshirocks341|<font color="green">'''Yoshi'''</font><font color="darkbrown">'''rocks'''</font>]][[User talk:Yoshirocks341|<font color="gold">'''341'''</font>]] [[Image:YoshiHeadSSBB.png|19px]] 21:14, 10 February 2012 (EST)
# A ship used for both good and evil; an undefeatable vessel that must always be destroyed; a home to the greatest warrior in the galaxy whose true identity remains unknown. [[User:Mr. Anon|<font color="grey">'''Mr. '''</font><font color="midnightblue">'''Anon'''</font>]][[File:Anon.png|23px|link=Special:Random]][[User talk:Mr. Anon|''<span style="color: black;">talk</span>'']]  23:26, 10 February 2012 (EST)
#As much as I love Starfox, I think the Halberd would win here. [[Special:Contributions/110.174.90.69|110.174.90.69]] 01:40, 11 February 2012 (EST)
#It looks awesome. ☆<span style="font-family:Algerian">[[User:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:green">The</span> <span style="color:red">Solar</span> <span style="color:blue">Dragon</span>]] <sup>([[User talk:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:gold">Talk</span>]] - [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon|Contribs.]])</sup></span>☆ 04:28, 11 February 2012 (EST)
#Um, HELLO? The elements in the battle stage are the same weapons Kirby fights in Super Star Ultra![[Special:Contributions/72.136.208.84|72.136.208.84]] 09:38, 11 February 2012 (EST)
#Those Arwings and their lasers are hard to watch out for. The Halberd hazards can be avoided easily, but not so much with that got-dang claw. [[Special:Contributions/107.7.54.122|107.7.54.122]] 13:43, 11 February 2012 (EST)
#Meta Knight's revenge music KICKS ASS!!1! '''<font face="Algerian">[[User:Avengingbandit|<font color="#00FFFF">THE</font>]][[User talk:Avengingbandit|<font color="#FF00FF">AVENGING</font>]][[Special:Contributions/Avengingbandit|<font color="#FFFF00">BANDIT</font>]]</font>''' 13:42, 11 February 2012 (EST)
#[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=85iCEGHLILk] [[User:Unknown the Hedgehog|<font color="#FF0000">Unknown </font>]] [[User talk:Unknown the Hedgehog|<font color="#780000">the </font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Unknown the Hedgehog|<font color="#000000">Hedgehog</font>]] 13:51, 11 February 2012 (EST)
#I think thing's related to Meta Knight need some love. As in, he lost to King Dedede.[[Special:Contributions/174.20.242.17|174.20.242.17]] 15:44, 11 February 2012 (EST)
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===Votes for ''Great Fox''===
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:<s>1. Wow, who'd have thought that I would ever vote for a Melee stage over a Smash 4 stage? Unfortunately for Magicant, I just find the stage to be ugly and weird looking. It probably doesn't help that it runs on the 3DS but it doesn't look appealing to me in the slightest. On the other hand who can't love the design of a stage inspired by the classic Super Mario Bros. NES series itself? ''[[User:Trainer Alex|<span style="color: blue;">'''Alex'''</span>]] the [[User talk:Trainer Alex|<span style="color: red;">'''Jigglypuff trainer'''</span>]]'' 10:48, 2 June 2018 (EDT)</s>
#''You can't beat me! I've got a better ship!'' -- Pigma Dengar [[User:ToastUltimatum|<font color="ff8c00">'''Toast'''</font>]] [[File:Wii U Logo Transparent.png|17px|link=Special:Contributions/ToastUltimatum]][[User talk:ToastUltimatum|<font color="01a3c4">'''ltimatum'''</font>]][[File:Transparent Swadloon.png|26px]] 20:12, 10 February 2012 (EST)
#I ''hate'' Magicant with a passion. Going with the obvious better option. A classic too. [[User:KirbysCrazyAppetite|Kirby's Crazy Appetite]] ~ [[File:KirbysCrazyAppetiteSig.png|50x20px]] 12:48, 2 June 2018 (EDT)
#Star Fox. ''[[Special:Contributions/JamesHeart123|<font color="green">123</font>]][[User:JamesHeart123|<font color="blue">James</font>]][[User talk:JamesHeart123|<font color="purple">Heart</font>]]'' [[file:PatheticStickFigure.jpg|20px|link=Special:Random]] 00:34, 11 February 2012 (EST)  
#Mushroom Kingdom II = ''Super Mario Bros. 2''! [[User:Dragonfirebreath25|Dragonfirebreath25]] ([[User talk:Dragonfirebreath25|talk]]) 12:52, 2 June 2018 (EDT)
#Just so... great. [[User:Pokémonultimate|<font color="red">'''Pokémon'''</font>]][[User Talk:Pokémonultimate|<font color="gray">''Ultimate''</font>]]  [[File:PokUltSigPic.JPG|20px]] 02:53, 11 February 2012 (EST)
#[[:User:ZeldaStarfoxfan2164|ZeldaStarfoxfan2164]] ([[User talk:ZeldaStarfoxfan2164|talk]]) is a never lover boy  20:56, 2 June 2018 (EDT)
#''"Do a barrel roll!"'' -- Peppy Hare. Ah, memories. [[User:Bowzerdude|<font color="green">'''Bowzer'''</font><font color="yellow">'''dude'''</font>]][[User talk:Bowzerdude|<font color="red">'''- Pure Epicness!'''</font>]] [[File:BowserHeadSSBM.png|BowserHeadSSBM.png|19px]] 04:34, 11 February 2012 (EST)
#The only correct answer is Mushroom Kingdom II. [[User:Pokebub|Pokebub]] ([[User talk:Pokebub|talk]]) 01:36, 4 June 2018 (EDT)
#[[Special:Contributions/204.191.136.150|204.191.136.150]] 11:18, 11 February 2012 (EST)
#Magicant is just weird. [[User:Awesomelink234|<span style="font-size:10pt;background:#00FF20;border:outset #083 2px;padding:1px 3px;color:#050DF7">Awesomelink234, the Super Cool Sonic Fan</span>]] [[User talk:Awesomelink234|Leave a message if needed]] 08:41, 4 June 2018 (EDT)
#<span style="font-family:Agency FB; font-size:12pt">[[User:BlindColours|<font color="black">'''Blind'''</font>]]</span><span style="font-family: Berlin Sans FB; font-size:12pt">[[User talk:BlindColours|<font color="red">C</font><font color="purple">ol</font>]][[ Special:Contributions/BlindColours|<font color="green">ou</font><font color="seablue">rs</font>]]</span> [[File:Boing.png|50px]] 11:25, 11 February 2012 (EST)
#This one's pretty close because I like trolling people with Flying Man, but this was my favorite Melee stage so nostalgia beats trolling. [[User:TheNuttyOne|TheNuttyOne]] 14:41, 7 June 2018 (EDT)
#I can't stand Halberd sometimes. '''''[[User:HavocReaper48|<span style="color:maroon;">--Havoc</span>]][[User talk:HavocReaper48|<span style="color:brown;">48</span>]]<span style="color:navy;"> >:D!!!</span>''''' 11:55, 11 February 2012 (EST)
#Magicent's a cool stage, but I have no real relation with the ''Earthbound'' series. ''Super Mario Bros. 2'' is a good game. But speaking in terms of stages, Mushroom Kingdom II has more room to move around, no assist characters that will gang up on you (Birdo's only slightly annoying), and I like the Pidget. [[User:Alex95|Alex95]] ([[User talk:Alex95|talk]]) 21:07, 8 June 2018 (EDT)
#Well, it was the largest stage in SSB64 (not counting Mushroom Kingdom). [[User:RickTommy|RickTommy]] ([[User talk:RickTommy|talk]]) 18:00, 11 February 2012 (EST)
#I'm a sucker for nostalgia, plus I like this stage better anyway, so... yeah. <span style="font-family:Corbel; font-size:12pt">[[User:Smash Master|<span style="color:darkblue">'''Smash''']] [[User talk:Smash Master|<span style="color:darkgreen">'''Master'''</span>]]</span></span> 15:22, 9 June 2018 (EDT)
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#I like Melee... and Mario... [[Special:Contributions/54.175.143.180|54.175.143.180]] 21:39, 30 June 2018 (EDT)
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#It's very close for me, but I gotta go with MKII. it's such a throwback, I gotta go for it. Sorry Magicant. [[User:Dakota.952|Dakota.952]] [[User talk:Dakota.952]] 17:00, 8 July 2018 (EDT)
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#For me it's either a game I have never played or a series I don't care about. That and I'm a big Mario fan. [[User:CaptainGamer|Captain Gamer]] ([[User talk:CaptainGamer|talk]]) 13:06, 16 July 2018 (EDT)
#mario bros. 2 is my choice for best nes game and this level captures my first experiences with the game [[User:XVI|XVI]] ([[User talk:XVI|talk]]) 18:33, 20 July 2018 (EDT)
#Even though I am a fan of Magicant because of the universe its in, Mushroom Kingdom II is just... better. In every way. [[User:Kbimbatti22|Kbimbatti22]] ([[User talk:Kbimbatti22|talk]]) 13:22, 25 July 2018 (EDT)l
#I like Magicant because it seems weird, BUT in this matchup Mushroom Kingdom II is better. It's more refined, stable and easier to play. Long live Ultimate. [[User:Sparkwave|Sparkwave]] ([[User talk:Sparkwave|talk]]) 12:06, 17 August 2018 (EDT)
#I don't know what to say [[User:Sammybambam11|Sammybambam11]] ([[User talk:Sammybambam11|talk]]) 14:25, 10 August 2018 (EDT)
#Playing on Mario stages in Smash for me is an absolute treat, plus the retro-sounding music gives off so much nostalgia. Sorry Magicant, you're cool, but not as good as one of Mr. Video Game's home stages! [[File:SSB4DarkSonicHead.png|17px|link=User:SonicSpeed48]][[User talk:SonicSpeed48|<font color="navyblue">''Speed'''''48'''</font>]] 20:40, 20 August 2018 (EDT)
#I think Mushroom Kingdom II is a much bigger throwback to the classics. Sorry Magicant! [[User talk:RetroPika|<font color="yellow">RetroPika</font>]][[File:PikachuHeadSSB.png|17px]] 03:29, 8 September 2018 (EDT)
#Mushroom kingdom is superior. Sorry, earthbound fans! [[User:NicoNiconii|NicoNiconii]] ([[User talk:NicoNiconii|talk]]) 11:16, 2 November 2018 (EDT) NicoNiconii, November 2, 2018, 11:16 AM EST
#I've never played Earthbound so I'll cast my vote here. --[[Special:Contributions/203.128.94.27|203.128.94.27]] 10:29, 3 November 2018 (EDT)
#I am a HUGE Mario fan, and Magicant is very... odd. Go Mushroom Kingdom! Also, the music rocks:)[[User:Super Eli|Super Eli]] ([[User talk:Super Eli|talk]]) 04:51, 6 November 2018 (EST)
#--[[Special:Contributions/14.199.84.205|14.199.84.205]] 09:47, 10 November 2018 (EST)
#Here I am. [[User:UltimateWoomy|UltimateWoomy]] ([[User talk:UltimateWoomy|talk]]) 22:55, 11 November 2018 (EST)
#[[Super Mario Bros. 2]] is quite underrated so this stage is pretty cool for representing  that game, plus it’s coming back to Ultimate.[[Magicant]]’s a pretty good stage too [[Special:Contributions/174.55.24.64|174.55.24.64]] 13:44, 15 November 2018 (EST)
#I MADE UP MY MIND! [[User:BESTIDIOTEVER|BESTIDIOTEVER]] ([[User talk: BESTIDIOTEVER|talk]]) 22:43, 25 November 2018 (EST)
#Magican't win! [[User:RK50||RK50]] ([[User talk: RK50|talk]]) 21:16, 15 December 2018 (EST)
#It's the obvious choice to go with the face of gaming's sequel! Johnson T. Shy Guy 17:36, 19 December (EDT)
#The song has been stuck in my head all day, so I can't not vote this. [[Special:Contributions/63.224.129.183|63.224.129.183]] 15:34, 23 January 2019 (EST)
#The hazards and stuff are much more creative. Are there even any in Magicant? [[Special:Contributions/KingKRool26|KingKRool26]] 8:00, 14 February 2019 (EST)
#I vote for Mushroom Kingdom II becuase overall I think it looks better as a stage then Magicant. 8:56 AM 18 February 2019 (CST)
#Mushroom Kingdom II is overall a much better stage to fight on, despite the fact it's a walk-off stage. And there's no Flying Man. 2:43 PM, 4 March 2019 (EST)
#I like Mario. And Magicant sounds too much like Magic can't. [[Special:Contributions/50.43.56.91|50.43.56.91]] 19:30, April 11, 2019 (EDT)
#''A-sla-a-sla-a-sla-tte-ry...'' When I was young, not only did I make up the aforementioned lyrics for the ''SMB2'' theme's opening notes, but I wrote an unintentional self-insert fanfic based on ''SMB2''. <span style="font-family:Mario Party 2/3 Textbox">[[User:RickTommy|<span style="color:red">Rick</span>]][[User talk:RickTommy|<span style="color:green">Tommy</span>]]</span> 01:24, April 25, 2019 (EDT)
#I love retro stages, Magicant is camping galore as well, soooooo[[User:Azantix|Azantix]] ([[User talk:Azantix|talk]]) 11:52, June 24, 2019 (EDT)
#Magicant made a level 9 Luigi look dumb.[[User:Snorlax TheGreat|Snorlax TheGreat]] ([[User talk:Snorlax TheGreat|talk]]) 08:15, July 5, 2019 (EDT)
#--[[User:Doggieboy9|Doggieboy9]] ([[User talk:Doggieboy9|talk]]) 13:08, July 5, 2019 (EDT)
#I prefer beating up Birdo over getting beat up by Chicken Man[[Special:Contributions/198.98.24.19|198.98.24.19]] 19:23, September 3, 2019 (EDT)
#I prefer Mushroom Kingdom II because I am a Mario Fan.[[User:Crocodile Dippy 2|Crocodile Dippy 2]] ([[User talk:Crocodile Dippy 2|talk]]) 14:14, September 11, 2019 (EDT)
#Jesus this hasn't been updated in a while...but yeah Magicant sucks. '''Your Senpai,''' [[User:Iron Warrior|<span style="color: red;">'''Iron'''</span>]] [[User talk:Iron Warrior|<span style="color: cyan;">'''Warrior'''</span>]] 12:13, November 20, 2019 (EST)
#everything is better than flying man lol[[User:Stelgard M|Stelgard M]] ([[User talk:Stelgard M|talk]]) 17:24, December 25, 2019 (EST)
#Clearly, Flying Man is way to OP and unfair for the others when someone grabs him. I destroyed someone much better than me using him. They should trash either him or the stage. As for Mushroom Kingdom II, I have nothing against it. [[User:Mario Kart 7 Rules|Mario Kart 7 Rules]] ([[User talk:Mario Kart 7 Rules|talk]]) 12:37, March 2, 2020 (EST)


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#I’m just a sucker for Mario stages. Besides, who doens’t love the feeling of extreme nostalgia. <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:MarioFighter64|MarioFighter64]] ([[User talk:MarioFighter64|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/MarioFighter64|contribs]]) 20:02, 20 August 2018 (EDT)</small>
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#I feel that it looks a lot cleaner than Magicant. It looks better. <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:Cassinator|Cassinator]] ([[User talk:Cassinator|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Cassinator|contribs]]) 20:55, 10 December 2018 (EST)</small>
Uh, why can't I vote for Great Fox? <span style="font-family:Agency FB; font-size:12pt">[[User:BlindColours|<font color="black">'''Blind'''</font>]]</span><span style="font-family: Berlin Sans FB; font-size:12pt">[[User talk:BlindColours|<font color="red">C</font><font color="purple">ol</font>]][[ Special:Contributions/BlindColours|<font color="green">ou</font><font color="seablue">rs</font>]]</span> [[File:Boing.png|50px]] 19:49, 10 February 2012 (EST)
#MKII FTW! <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:180.191.158.100|180.191.158.100]] ([[User talk:180.191.158.100|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/180.191.158.100|contribs]]) 23:54, 17 December 2018 (EST)</small>
:Someone added an extra "!" to a "don't edit anything below here" line. [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[Image:Toomai.png|20px|link=User:Toomai/Bin|???]] The Pan-Galactic 19:59, 10 February 2012 (EST)
# Birdo is a better trophy than Flying Man in my opinion. <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:BowserIsBroken|BowserIsBroken]] ([[User talk:BowserIsBroken|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/BowserIsBroken]]) 18:58, 21 February 2019 (EST) </small>
My fight (see vote #3) happened like this: A Level 1 blue Zelda was against me, a Fox. At the start of the fight, I used Illusion off the side of the stage, thinking that I'd spawn on the other side. About ten seconds later, I won; I knocked Zelda off the side of the main platform a second before it went up into the air. Good times... [[User:MeleeMarth01|MeleeMarth01]] ([[User talk:MeleeMarth01|talk]]) 20:09, 10 February 2012 (EST)
#i love this stage, I think it's a very interesting idea, but mostly, I just don't like the flying man from magicant.[[User:SpiritSquirtle|SpiritSquirtle]] ([[User talk:SpiritSquirtle|talk]]) 18:36, September 22, 2019 (EDT)
#MushroomKingdom Because I'ts One Of My Favorite Battle Stages, But I Have Respects To Magicant. <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:Super Kirby X|Super Kirby X]] ([[User talk:Super Kirby X|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Super Kirby X|contribs]]) 1:00 29, September 24</small>
#Mario is my childhood. I also have never heard of magicant. <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:64.90.137.2|64.90.137.2]] ([[User talk:64.90.137.2|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/64.90.137.2|contribs]]) 14:26, October 30, 2019</small>
#Couldn't care less about the other one. --[[User:lucina-is-better-than-marth]] <!--Not signed properly-->
#I like melee better, so Mushroom Kingdom 2 for me. [[Special:Contributions/80.155.164.74|80.155.164.74]] 04:50, September 24, 2019 (EDT) <!--Improper formatting (no #'s)-->
#I don't like this stage that much but I REALLY don't like Magicant so this one gets my vote. -[[User:Chiruria|'''''Chiruria!''''']] 12:52, February 21, 2020 (EST)
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==[[Mushroomy Kingdom]] vs. [[Green Hill Zone]]==
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#Better music, better environment, and a better stage to fight on, honestly. [[User:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''Aidan'''</span>]], [[User talk:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''the College-Bound Rurouni'''</span>]] 11:58, 2 June 2018 (EDT)
# First vote again. GO MUSHROOOMY KINGDOM p.s. I DON'T LIKE SONIC!!! --<span style="font-family:Corbel; font-size:12pt">[[User:YoshiEggs|<span style="color:forestgreen">'''Yoshi'''</span>]][[User talk:YoshiEggs|<span style="color:forestgreen">'''Eggs'''</span>]]</span> [[File:YoshiEggsSig.gif|19px]] 19:24, 10 February 2012 (EST)
#[[Special:Contributions/23.17.208.28|23.17.208.28]] 00:59, 4 June 2018 (EDT)
#Although I '''hate''' 1-2, 1-1 is enough for me to vote for this scrolling stage. [[User:MeleeMarth01|MeleeMarth01]] ([[User talk:MeleeMarth01|talk]]) 20:09, 10 February 2012 (EST)
#Magicant is beautiful and way better looking --[[User:Myth|<font color="orange">'''Myth'''</font>]] [[File:Myth Kirby.png|19px|link=User talk:Myth]] 13:53, 24 June 2018 (EDT)
#Classic. [[User:.....|.....]] [[User talk:.....|Bein']] [[Special:Contributions/.....|Friends]] 20:22, 10 February 2012 (EST)
#I hate Magicant because whoever gets the Flying Man is pretty much guaranteed a win unless they SD several times. However I'm giving it a vote out of Pity, because I like Earthbound, and because I absolutely despise Mushroom Kingdom II. [[Special:Contributions/72.133.91.93|72.133.91.93]] 09:32, 6 June 2018 (EDT)YoshisaurusThe9th
# I kick ass as Luigi here. That gives this stage an advantage. Anyways, it has the most epic music (like Underground Theme from Super Mario Land). [[User:LightningBlue|<font style="color:midnightblue;font-family:arial black">'''LightningBlue:</font>]] [[User talk:LightningBlue|<font style="color:turquoise;font-family:arial black">'''Electric!</font>]] 23:21, 10 February 2012 (EST)
#The heck is wrong with y'all. MK2 is beat out in pretty much every department by Magicant. [[File:RagnarokSignature.png|20px|link=]] [[User:Ragnarok320|<span style="color: red;">'''Ragnarok320, The Toa of Fire''']]</span> [[User talk:Ragnarok320|<span style="color: black;">'''(talk)'''</span>]] 18:48, 5 July 2018 (EDT)
#Mario. ''[[Special:Contributions/JamesHeart123|<font color="green">123</font>]][[User:JamesHeart123|<font color="blue">James</font>]][[User talk:JamesHeart123|<font color="purple">Heart</font>]]'' [[file:PatheticStickFigure.jpg|20px|link=Special:Random]] 00:34, 11 February 2012 (EST)
#Magicant looks great, and will likely look even better in Ultimate. MKII is fine, but not nearly as good or interesting as Magicant. [[User:Kirbitzein|Kirbitzein]] ([[User talk:Kirbitzein|talk]]) 01:41, 8 July 2018 (EDT)
#The nostalgia of this stage is awesome. ☆<span style="font-family:Algerian">[[User:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:green">The</span> <span style="color:red">Solar</span> <span style="color:blue">Dragon</span>]] <sup>([[User talk:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:gold">Talk</span>]] - [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon|Contribs.]])</sup></span>☆ 04:28, 11 February 2012 (EST)
#Flying Man is more helpful when it comes to KOing opponents than Birdo's eggs. [[User:Warriorking98|Warriorking98]] 22:26, 14 July 2019 (EDT)
#Congrats to the new World Record holder for Super Mario Bros.! [[User:ToastUltimatum|<font color="ff8c00">'''Toast'''</font>]] [[File:Wii U Logo Transparent.png|17px|link=Special:Contributions/ToastUltimatum]][[User talk:ToastUltimatum|<font color="01a3c4">'''ltimatum'''</font>]][[File:Transparent Swadloon.png|26px]] 06:17, 11 February 2012 (EST)
#I like this stage a lot. --[[Special:Contributions/142.229.115.125|142.229.115.125]] 16:41, 23 July 2018 (EDT)
#The ? blocks give you epic good items as they do in the NES version! Don't forget the hidden block after the 4th pipe![[Special:Contributions/72.136.208.84|72.136.208.84]] 09:40, 11 February 2012 (EST)
#I've never been a huge fan of retro stages. However, I am a huge fan of taking old, retro settings from games and remaking them in higher quality, and Magicant is a perfect candidate for this. It is aesthetically unique compared to almost every stage in smash with it's heavy amount of pink, and I love all of the Earthbound references. I like most of the hazards on this stage, but I understand that the flying men can be quite annoying. I can't wait to play on this stage in Ultimate, it's already looking stunning. [[User:Mudmag|Mudmag]] ([[User talk:Mudmag|talk]])
#<span style="font-family:Agency FB; font-size:12pt">[[User:BlindColours|<font color="black">'''Blind'''</font>]]</span><span style="font-family: Berlin Sans FB; font-size:12pt">[[User talk:BlindColours|<font color="red">C</font><font color="purple">ol</font>]][[ Special:Contributions/BlindColours|<font color="green">ou</font><font color="seablue">rs</font>]]</span> [[File:Boing.png|50px]] 11:25, 11 February 2012 (EST)
#It is so beautiful, this has good music and it is so enjoyable, and this is very rememorable to me, but the most fun part of this stage is the Flying Men. [[User:Andreepika11233|Andreepika11233]] ([[User talk:Andreepika11233|talk]]) 19:32, 9 August 2018 (EDT)
#Mario FTW/PLG! [[User:RickTommy|RickTommy]] ([[User talk:RickTommy|talk]]) 18:00, 11 February 2012 (EST)
#A second, in my opinion poor attempt at constructing a good Mushroom Kingdom stage vs a beautiful, nostalgic stage from an equally great game. Magicant's an easy choice for me. [[User:SugarCookie420|SugarCookie420]] ([[User talk:SugarCookie420|talk]]) 08:43, 23 August 2018 (EDT)
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#Honestly, I haven't played on the SMB2 stage before. However, I HAVE played on this stage multiple times and I love the brightly colored, wacky style of it and the nice calm music that plays. Plus, the Flying Men sprites are cool! [[User:Crazy456Rhino|Crazy456Rhino]] ([[User talk:Crazy456Rhino|talk]]) 12:13, 7 September 2018 (EDT)
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#I've never actually played on Mushroom Kingdom II, but Magicant is a much better looking stage, I like its series much more, and the music is phenomenal. <b>[[User:john3637881|<span style="color: black;">John</span>]]</b> [[File:John3637881 Signature.png|20px]] <b>[[User talk:John3637881|<span style="color: red;">HUAH!</span>]]</b> 12:54, 7 September 2018 (EDT)
#Magicant wins for me hands down due to all the awesome references on this stage. Seeing the Dungeon Man and other parts of Mother 1+2 recreated in 3d is a real treat. [[User:RisingFalcon|RisingFalcon]] ([[User talk:RisingFalcon|talk]]) 19:26, 7 September 2018 (EDT)
#Prettier and chock full of cool references. [[User:TheDavsto|TheDavsto]] ([[User talk:TheDavsto|talk]]) 10:13, 11 September 2018 (EDT)
#Since I played for 3ds way more, I definitely would prefer this beautiful stage. [[User:Super A|Super A]] ([[User talk:Super A|talk]]) 19:37, 24 September 2018 (EDT)
#It has a better layout, great music, and gorgeous visuals (especially in Ultimate). The Flying Men may be annoying and I love the retro aesthetic of MK2 and similar stages, but Magicant's creative design makes it more memorable to me. [[User:AquaShield11097|<span style="color: blue;">Aqua Shield</span>]] ([[User talk:AquaShield11097|''<span style="color: darkblue;">talk</span>'']]) [[File:AquaShield.png|20px]] 22:43, 2 October 2018 (EDT)
#Gorgeous map. Nice design. Will be even better in Ultimate with the option to take out the flying man. :P [[User:OctopusSandwich|OctopusSandwich]] 20:24, 14 October 2018 (EDT)
#--[[Special:Contributions/180.249.127.254|180.249.127.254]] 04:36, 4 November 2018 (EST)
#[[User:KoreanPJs|KoreanPJs]] ([[User talk:KoreanPJs|talk]]) 03:10, 7 November 2018 (EST)
#RPGs > Platformers. --[[Special:Contributions/113.212.233.12|113.212.233.12]] 06:18, 10 November 2018 (EST)
#I only have Smash for 3ds and will be getting ultimate, and I know flying man ruins the stage, but with stage hazards off, this'll be a great stage. [[User:MimoMQ|MimoMQ]] ([[User talk:MimoMQ|talk]]) 19:43, 25 November 2018 (EST)
#As a massive fan of the Mother series, this is a absolutely beautiful stage. Any mario stage (except for Ney Donk City Hall) is just to tell you how great the mario games are. (Fourside will always be the best mother stage). [[User:MasterDuelist_24|MasterDuelist_24]] ([[User talk:MasterDuelist_24|talk]]) 10:39, 31 January 2019 (EST)
#The Flying Man ruins the stage but with stage hazards off its no biggie. Mushroom Kingdom II is too small to fight on. [[User:Tyler730|Tyler730]] ([[User talk:Tyler730|talk]]) 13:05, 2 February 2019 (EST)
#One of my favorites. --[[Special:Contributions/24.146.71.225|24.146.71.225]] 18:22, 4 February 2019 (EST)
#it looks so cool man.[[User:Iamthedude|Iamthedude]] ([[User talk:Iamthedude|talk]]) 21:55, 24 February 2019 (EST)
#Magicant has godlike music and looks incredible. Makes me want an Earthbound Beginnings remake. --[[User:Plague von Karma|Plague von Karma]] ([[User talk:Plague von Karma|talk]]) 01:32, April 9, 2019 (EDT)
#Wow i never actually voted for this, anyway if this was exclusivly for the 3ds version of Magicant, then i'd say the other stage is better, but Magicant for ultimate looks so good to me it is almost no contest. Plus it isnt a walk-off <span style="background:#ea244a;border:outset #906 5px">'''[[User:Xtra3678|Xtra]][[File:Xtra_headpng.png|20px]][[User talk:Xtra3678|<span style="color:Lime">Talk</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Xtra3678|<span style="color: Gold">Edits</span>]]'''</span> 10:39, April 24, 2019 (EDT)
#I like the stage in its entirety, and Mario stages are boring. Plus, Magicant is very cute. I like the pink. [[Special:Contributions/75.86.147.26|75.86.147.26]] 07:15, May 26, 2019 (EDT)
#I think this stage looks cooler than the other. That's pretty much all. [[User:JRJ007|JRJ007]] ([[User talk:JRJ007|talk]]) 19:39, June 2, 2019 (EDT)
#The stage is cute. Plus, the Flying Man is great. [[User:LucasRules|LucasRules]] ([[User talk:LucasRules|talk]]) 17:34, June 5, 2019 (EDT)
#This one's far more creative than MK2, and the Flying Men aren't too annoying when you learn how they function. --[[User:MeatBall104|<span style="color: red">'''''Meat'''''</span>]][[User talk:MeatBall104|<span style="color: orange">'''''Ball'''''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/MeatBall104|<span style="color:Gold">'''''104'''''</span>]] [[File:MB104Pic2.jpg|20px]] 09:45, June 6, 2019 (EDT)
#Surprised this is still going on. I love both stages but I'm giving my vote to Magicant. Overall better looking stage and Ultimate's hazerdless option make it better to have a serious fight on in my (as I call it since I never played in real tournaments) pseudo tournaments, and generally I want to support the EarthBound franchise.[[User: supatoad64|<span style="color:blue;"> '''SupaToad64''' </span>]] [[ Image: MK64ToadCSP.jpg|20px ]] 02:09, June 10, 2019 (EDT)
# Two words: Walk-offs. Maybe that's one word. Whatever's the case, stages where you can walk into the blast zone are a bane for competitive and casual players alike, whether you're getting back-throwed into oblivion, or a combo brings you a little bit to far to the left while, frustratingly, you were close to 0%. [[User:Mogo|Mogo]] ([[User talk:Mogo|talk]]) 08:02, 6/10/2019 (EST)
#FLYING MAN!!!![[User:DarkNight|DarkNight]] ([[User talk:DarkNight|talk]]) 11:06, June 15, 2019 (EDT)
#It looks like pink cotton candy!!!![[Special:Contributions/71.9.47.77|71.9.47.77]] 11:30, June 15, 2019 (EDT)
#Let's just say this stage really appeals to me personally. --[[Special:Contributions/73.220.19.65|73.220.19.65]] 16:45, June 19, 2019 (EDT)
#It doesn't have a walk-off section. Better for gameplay imo. [[Special:Contributions/156.57.171.73|156.57.171.73]] 15:06, August 20, 2019 (EDT)RSdabeast
#Great music, great callbacks to MOTHER 1, and just a great stage in general. It was a bit better in Smash 4 because the memories looked cooler and flying man was stronger, but Ultimate made it bigger so it's fine. Magicant best stage.[[Special:Contributions/12.148.188.195|12.148.188.195]] 19:31, October 2, 2019 (EDT)
#Music is better, has nice throwbacks to an amazing RPG. Except Flying Man. Flying Man can die. <span style="font-family: SimHei;color: orange;background-color: green;">LegendEH Is Very [[User talk:LegendEH|Handsome]]~</span> 11:22, November 22, 2019 (EST)
#I hate walk offs. they make me sad. [[User:CMWAidanx|CMWAidanx? Yikes.]] ([[User talk:CMWAidanx|talk]]) 16:42, December 2, 2019 (EST) 16:41 EST, 12/2/2019
#As of the visual update in Ultimate, I am now much more fond of this stage. It's also more fun to play on now, especially because you can spike opponents through the clouds. ''[[User:Trainer Alex|<span style="color: blue;">'''Alex'''</span>]] the [[User talk:Trainer Alex|<span style="color: red;">'''Jigglypuff trainer'''</span>]]'' 10:10, December 22, 2019 (EST)
#Magicant is just better to fight on in my opinion. Flying Man is pretty annoying, but the reason I'm giving a full vote because it has better music, and platforms, just listening to Unfounded Revenge/Smashing song of praise while fighting as Ness/Lucas on Magicant is enough to make me feel better. [[User:Weegeegaming|'''<span style="color: green;">Weegeegaming</span>''']]|[[User talk:Weegeegaming|'''''<span style="color: red;">talk</span>''''']] 04:31, April 11, 2020 (EDT)
 
===Half votes===
#This stage is more fun in my opinion. <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:73.204.16.209|73.204.16.209]] ([[User talk:73.204.16.209|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/73.204.16.209|contribs]]) 15:45, 11 September 2018 (EDT)</small>
#I prefer the music and the stage layout over Mushroom Kingdom II. <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:Epic Meme God|Epic Meme God]] ([[User talk:Epic Meme God|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Epic Meme God|contribs]]) 20:27, 5 February 2019 (EST)</small>
#Mushroom Kingdom 2 is not in the Mushroom Kingdom, it's in Supcon!!! <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:LinkBoy|LinkBoy]] ([[User talk:LinkBoy|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/LinkBoy|contribs]]) 18:08, 8 March 2019 (EST)</small>
#I am a massive fan of the Mother series, and plus this stage is beautiful. <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:Xay1494|Xay1494]] ([[User talk:Xay1494|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Xay1494|contribs]]) 20:28, 15 March 2019 (EDT)</small>
#Magicant also references Earthbound Zero. Its a fun stage with the Flyingmen. <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:FlaminKirb|FlaminKirb]] ([[User talk:FlaminKirb|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/FlaminKirb|contribs]]) 12:56, April 12, 2019</small>
#Magicant hazards off is pretty nice for casual doubles/free for all’s not gonna lie. <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:ThiccMan|ThiccMan]] ([[User talk:ThiccMan|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/ThiccMan|contribs]]) 08:27, 2019 April 13</small>
#I love this stage a lot! If I am not feeling like a serious 1v1, I might do a slightly more casual free-for-all on this stage. 18:33 September 24, 2019 (EST) Kalifguest22 <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:Kalifguest22|Kalifguest22]] ([[User talk:Kalifguest22|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kalifguest22|contribs]]) 18:33 September 24, 2019 (EDT)</small>
#FLYING BIRD MAN <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:69.5.117.14|69.5.117.14]] ([[User talk:69.5.117.14|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/69.5.117.14|contribs]]) 19:22, December 11, 2019</small>
#Just better <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:107.77.249.24|107.77.249.24]] ([[User talk:107.77.249.24|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/107.77.249.24|contribs]]) 16:32, December 12, 2019</small>
#As a casual smash player, this is a great stage for camping and a lot of people struggle with the bottom area.<small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:18.205.117.140|18.205.117.140]] ([[User talk:18.205.117.140|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/18.205.117.140|contribs]]) 19:24, March 19, 2020</small>


===Votes for ''Green Hill Zone''===
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#I played the 2D Sonic games long before I played Super Mario Bros. Also, that music is awesome. Also, 1-2 Mushroomy Kingdom remains my pick for absolute worst Smash Bros. stage ever. --- <font face="American Typewriter">''[[User:ReiDemon|Rei]][[User_talk:ReiDemon|Demon]], Author Extraordinaire''</font>, 20:15, 10 February 2012 (EST)
# I've had too much fun with the checkpoint thingy not to vote for this.[[User:Yoshirocks341|<font color="green">'''Yoshi'''</font><font color="darkbrown">'''rocks'''</font>]][[User talk:Yoshirocks341|<font color="gold">'''341'''</font>]] [[Image:YoshiHeadSSBB.png|19px]] 21:15, 10 February 2012 (EST)
# Mushroomy Kingdom is a fun stage with good music, but nothing can trump the amazing soundtrack of Green Hill Zone (at least nothing that Mushroomy Kingdom has). [[User:Mr. Anon|<font color="grey">'''Mr. '''</font><font color="midnightblue">'''Anon'''</font>]][[File:Anon.png|23px|link=Special:Random]][[User talk:Mr. Anon|''<span style="color: black;">talk</span>'']]  23:28, 10 February 2012 (EST)
#Mushroomy Kingdom is just irritating to fight on, Green Hill Zone is better in my opinion. [[Special:Contributions/110.174.90.69|110.174.90.69]] 01:40, 11 February 2012 (EST)
#[[Special:Contributions/204.191.136.150|204.191.136.150]] 11:18, 11 February 2012 (EST)
#If I had to choose between them? This one doesn't move. '''''[[User:HavocReaper48|<span style="color:maroon;">--Havoc</span>]][[User talk:HavocReaper48|<span style="color:brown;">48</span>]]<span style="color:navy;"> >:D!!!</span>''''' 11:55, 11 February 2012 (EST)
#I don't like moving stages. [[Special:Contributions/107.7.54.122|107.7.54.122]] 13:44, 11 February 2012 (EST)
#^ '''<font face="Algerian">[[User:Avengingbandit|<font color="#00FFFF">THE</font>]][[User talk:Avengingbandit|<font color="#FF00FF">AVENGING</font>]][[Special:Contributions/Avengingbandit|<font color="#FFFF00">BANDIT</font>]]</font>''' 13:45, 11 February 2012 (EST)
#Tbh, I'm actually disappointed in Mushroomy Kingdom. I don't like the idea of World 1-1 being an abandoned wasteland, but I think it should have instead been lush and colorful like in Super Mario Bros. Now it just looks boring and drab. [[User:Unknown the Hedgehog|<font color="#FF0000">Unknown </font>]] [[User talk:Unknown the Hedgehog|<font color="#780000">the </font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Unknown the Hedgehog|<font color="#000000">Hedgehog</font>]] 13:51, 11 February 2012 (EST)
#Sonic.(Fast fact, one of the characters who runs through that shuttle loop is Silver, who doesn't appear in the games very often.)[[Special:Contributions/174.20.242.17|174.20.242.17]] 15:42, 11 February 2012 (EST)
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The reason I love Mushroom Kingdom II is because of the music from ''{{s|mariowiki|Super Mario Bros 2}}''. First, you have the overworld theme during a match and when time is running out and in [[Sudden Death]], it changes to the boss battle theme! Great stage! [[User:Dragonfirebreath25|Dragonfirebreath25]] ([[User talk:Dragonfirebreath25|talk]]) 17:19, 2 June 2018 (EDT)
Wow... This fight was my idea... But now I can't decide who to vote for even though this idea is mine! T_T [[User:Bowzerdude|<font color="green">'''Bowzer'''</font><font color="yellow">'''dude'''</font>]][[User talk:Bowzerdude|<font color="red">'''- Pure Epicness!'''</font>]] [[File:BowserHeadSSBM.png|BowserHeadSSBM.png|19px]]  04:16, 11 February 2012 (EST)  
:Actually, Suzaku Castle in Smash 4 will do the same thing, although it has to be a specific track of music.[[Special:Contributions/72.133.91.93|72.133.91.93]] 08:09, 7 June 2018 (EDT)Blueflame105
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Someone keeps deleting my vote! I keep voting the same thing on Magicant, but every time I come back to the page to look at new votes, my vote is gone! I'm not sockpuppeting, so why do my votes keep being taken off? [[Special:Contributions/72.133.91.93|72.133.91.93]] 12:00, 8 June 2018 (EDT)Blueflame105
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:Apparently someone with the same IP address has already voted. That's probably why it didn't count.[[User:SugarCookie420|SugarCookie420]] ([[User talk:SugarCookie420|talk]]) 08:40, 23 August 2018 (EDT)
:Amazing stage picks for this Smash Arena
How is this still going [[User talk:RetroPika|<font color="yellow">RetroPika</font>]][[File:PikachuHeadSSB.png|17px]] 04:58, 8 January 2019 (EST)
::The wiki status is still Red, so not much attention is placed onto this. [[User:SugarCookie420|<span style="font-family:Times New Roman"><span style="color: red;">SugarCookie</span></span>]] [[User talk:SugarCookie420|<span style="font-family:Impact"><span style="color: green;">420</span></span>]] 14:54, 4 March 2019 (EST)
:::Still, these are supposed to be weekly, and it's been about 10 months. We should probably end this round at some point. <span style="color:lightblue">'''Everone123'''</span> [[File:Everone123 Sig.png|20px]] ([[User:Everone123|u]] / [[User talk:Everone123|t]] / [[Special:Contributions/Everone123|c]]) 21:50, March 15, 2019 (EDT)
::::We are in a red Wiki status which means we must focus more on main articles than the SA. We can get new rounds once the status lowers to at least a yellow. [[:User:ZeldaStarfoxfan2164{{#if:|_({{{3}}})}}|ZeldaStarfoxfan2164]] ([[User talk:ZeldaStarfoxfan2164|talk]]) is made in America 21:58, March 15, 2019 (EDT)
::::We are now in the yellow status. It's still high, but we should probably have a new arena by the end of April. [[User:X-Biaur19|X-Biaur19]] ([[User talk:X-Biaur19|talk]]) 10:10, April 25, 2019 (EDT)X-Biaur19
:::::We may be in yellow, but we are still in a very heavy yellow, which is honestly almost red, due to jokers reveal. It may seem like its unnecessary to have to wait this long but i dont think we should try to rush the admins right now. <span style="background:#ea244a;border:outset #906 5px">'''[[User:Xtra3678|Xtra]][[File:Xtra_headpng.png|20px]][[User talk:Xtra3678|<span style="color:Lime">Talk</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Xtra3678|<span style="color: Gold">Edits</span>]]'''</span> 12:29, April 25, 2019 (EDT)
::::That's fair.[[User:X-Biaur19|X-Biaur19]] ([[User talk:X-Biaur19|talk]]) 10:07, April 29, 2019 (EDT)X-Biaur19
Hasn't this match been going for more than a year now?[[User:DarkNight|DarkNight]] ([[User talk:DarkNight|talk]]) 20:55, June 16, 2019 (EDT)


I think both stages are about equal in functionality when weighing strengths and weaknesses, but Magicant wins out for me not only because it's absolutely breathtaking, especially in Ultimate, but because of the rampant references to Mother 1 and 2. As anyone who has followed my edits knows (which I expect to be a grand total of zero), origins really really matter to me, so to see a stage crafted with such love for the source material just amazes me. Mushroom Kingdom II is no slouch either, but I'd argue it's slightly worse since almost all of its assets are just straight-up taken from All-Stars while Magicant uses mostly original models and animations. Sure it also takes things directly from both of the Mother games it appears in, but uses them sparingly and mostly just for a few cool call-backs in the background. I think it says a lot when I've never been a huge Mother fan and yet the love for the series put into this stage blows me away. [[Special:Contributions/73.220.19.65|73.220.19.65]] 16:45, June 19, 2019 (EDT)
==[[Final Destination (SSB)]] vs. [[Final Destination (SSBM)]] vs. [[Final Destination (SSBB)]]==
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...This is going to end soon right?<span style="font-family: Algerian; font-size:12pt"> '''[[User: supatoad64|<span style="color:dodgerblue;"> Supa </span>]] [[User talk: supatoad64|<span style="color:dodgerblue;"> Toad 64 </span>]]''' </span> [[ Image: MK64ToadCSP.jpg|20px  ]] 02:17, June 22, 2019 (EDT)
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#Damn, it's not like me to prevent a unanimous fight. Well, it wouldn't be unanimous anyway, as there's two competitors with votes. Regardless, Master Hand should stop playing with these toys. They keep killing him. [[User:ToastUltimatum|<font color="ff8c00">'''Toast'''</font>]] [[File:Wii U Logo Transparent.png|17px|link=Special:Contributions/ToastUltimatum]][[User talk:ToastUltimatum|<font color="01a3c4">'''ltimatum'''</font>]][[File:Transparent Swadloon.png|26px]] 06:17, 11 February 2012 (EST)
#<span style="font-family:Agency FB; font-size:12pt">[[User:BlindColours|<font color="black">'''Blind'''</font>]]</span><span style="font-family: Berlin Sans FB; font-size:12pt">[[User talk:BlindColours|<font color="red">C</font><font color="purple">ol</font>]][[ Special:Contributions/BlindColours|<font color="green">ou</font><font color="seablue">rs</font>]]</span> [[File:Boing.png|50px]] 11:25, 11 February 2012 (EST)
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OK I think this one has had its run and we should stop it now. We may be in red but my god this just dragged on and on and on and on... [[User:Coconut2|<font color="cyan">Coconut2</font>]][[File:IsabelleHeadSSBU.png|20px]] 10:08, June 25, 2019
===Votes for ''Final Destination (SSBM)''===
:If smash arena is supposed to have a new match weekly, this is exatly 1 year, 3 weeks, and 1 day overdue.<span style="font-family: Algerian; font-size:12pt"> '''[[User: supatoad64|<span style="color:dodgerblue;"> Supa </span>]] [[User talk: supatoad64|<span style="color:dodgerblue;"> Toad 64 </span>]]''' </span> [[ Image: MK64ToadCSP.jpg|20px ]] 20:35, July 1, 2019 (EDT)
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OK END THIS ALREADY THIS IS ALREADY TOO MUCH TIME OR HELL EVEN CANCEL SMASH ARENA ENTIRELY, I DON'T CARE, JUST END IT. [[User:Coconut2|<font color="cyan">Coconut2</font>]][[File:IsabelleHeadSSBU.png|20px]] 21:21, July 17, 2019
#In the end, it's the nostalgia factor. Meeting Master Hand for the first time is one of those moments where shit got real for the eight year old me. --- <font face="American Typewriter">''[[User:ReiDemon|Rei]][[User_talk:ReiDemon|Demon]], Author Extraordinaire''</font>, 20:15, 10 February 2012 (EST)
:First, calm down, it's not like this will go on for another millennium again. Second I will contact the admin team regarding when this will end.<span style="font-family: Algerian; font-size:12pt"> '''[[User: supatoad64|<span style="color:dodgerblue;"> Supa </span>]] [[User talk: supatoad64|<span style="color:dodgerblue;"> Toad 64 </span>]]''' </span> [[ Image: MK64ToadCSP.jpg|20px  ]] 05:43, July 19, 2019 (EDT)
# Melee's Final Destination just looks cool, almost as if it's some interstellar landing platform. See comments for analysis of each game's final stage. [[User:Mr. Anon|<font color="grey">'''Mr. '''</font><font color="midnightblue">'''Anon'''</font>]][[File:Anon.png|23px|link=Special:Random]][[User talk:Mr. Anon|''<span style="color: black;">talk</span>'']]  23:29, 10 February 2012 (EST)
When will we get a new Smash Arena? [[Special:Contributions/174.55.24.64|174.55.24.64]] 17:52, September 4, 2019 (EDT)
#Octagon. ''[[Special:Contributions/JamesHeart123|<font color="green">123</font>]][[User:JamesHeart123|<font color="blue">James</font>]][[User talk:JamesHeart123|<font color="purple">Heart</font>]]'' [[file:PatheticStickFigure.jpg|20px|link=Special:Random]] 00:34, 11 February 2012 (EST)
#This one spawned the NO ITEMS FOX ONLY FINAL DESTINATION meme; Your argument is invalid.[[User:Pokémonultimate|<font color="red">'''Pokémon'''</font>]][[User Talk:Pokémonultimate|<font color="gray">''Ultimate''</font>]]  [[File:PokUltSigPic.JPG|20px]] 02:53, 11 February 2012 (EST)
#[[Special:Contributions/204.191.136.150|204.191.136.150]] 11:18, 11 February 2012 (EST)
#I love the shooting stars :D '''<font face="Algerian">[[User:Avengingbandit|<font color="#00FFFF">THE</font>]][[User talk:Avengingbandit|<font color="#FF00FF">AVENGING</font>]][[Special:Contributions/Avengingbandit|<font color="#FFFF00">BANDIT</font>]]</font>''' 13:46, 11 February 2012 (EST)
#Can't stand Brawl's redesign with the new edge. -_- Plus getting Final Destination in Melee is a lot more rewarding than already having it unlocked and getting literally nothing for the final event in Brawl. [[User:Unknown the Hedgehog|<font color="#FF0000">Unknown </font>]] [[User talk:Unknown the Hedgehog|<font color="#780000">the </font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Unknown the Hedgehog|<font color="#000000">Hedgehog</font>]] 13:51, 11 February 2012 (EST)
#Apart from being the largest of the three, it is also the one from my favourite of the Smash Bros games. [[User:RickTommy|RickTommy]] ([[User talk:RickTommy|talk]]) 18:00, 11 February 2012 (EST)
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#This is definitely the most well done. Plus, it is the only starter stage of the three. [[User:LightningBlue|<font style="color:midnightblue;font-family:arial black">'''LightningBlue:</font>]] [[User talk:LightningBlue|<font style="color:turquoise;font-family:arial black">'''Electric!</font>]] 19:29, 10 February 2012 (EST)
#Final Destination,Final Destination,Final Destination. Three in a row. Don't vote SSB Final Destination, don't vote SSBM Final Destination, Vote SSBB!--<span style="font-family:Corbel; font-size:12pt">[[User:YoshiEggs|<span style="color:forestgreen">'''Yoshi'''</span>]][[User talk:YoshiEggs|<span style="color:forestgreen">'''Eggs'''</span>]]</span> [[File:YoshiEggsSig.gif|19px]] 19:48, 10 February 2012 (EST)
#I almost voted for 64's because it was the original one, but it's a bit too small for me, and Melee's is a bit too large. SSBB Final Destination is my kind of stage, especially because I main Fox and can get across the stage fast, as well as spamming Blaster. [[User:MeleeMarth01|MeleeMarth01]] ([[User talk:MeleeMarth01|talk]]) 20:09, 10 February 2012 (EST)
#The stage seems epic. [[User:.....|.....]] [[User talk:.....|Bein']] [[Special:Contributions/.....|Friends]] 20:22, 10 February 2012 (EST)
# I've had bad memories with the melee version and never played on the original.[[User:Yoshirocks341|<font color="green">'''Yoshi'''</font><font color="darkbrown">'''rocks'''</font>]][[User talk:Yoshirocks341|<font color="gold">'''341'''</font>]] [[Image:YoshiHeadSSBB.png|19px]] 21:18, 10 February 2012 (EST)
#The music is incredible and the backgrounds are amazing. As much as I like the other two, this one definitely beats them. [[Special:Contributions/110.174.90.69|110.174.90.69]] 01:41, 11 February 2012 (EST)
#Per above. [[User:Bowzerdude|<font color="green">'''Bowzer'''</font><font color="yellow">'''dude'''</font>]][[User talk:Bowzerdude|<font color="red">'''- Pure Epicness!'''</font>]] [[File:BowserHeadSSBM.png|BowserHeadSSBM.png|19px]]  04:14, 11 February 2012 (EST)
#I've always liked the music from this stage. ☆<span style="font-family:Algerian">[[User:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:green">The</span> <span style="color:red">Solar</span> <span style="color:blue">Dragon</span>]] <sup>([[User talk:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:gold">Talk</span>]] - [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon|Contribs.]])</sup></span>☆ 04:28, 11 February 2012 (EST)
#This has some epic ground! The first time I brawled here, I thought you had to hit the crystal center! What a laugh it was when i killed myself trying...[[Special:Contributions/72.136.208.84|72.136.208.84]] 09:44, 11 February 2012 (EST)
#Epic memories. '''''[[User:HavocReaper48|<span style="color:maroon;">--Havoc</span>]][[User talk:HavocReaper48|<span style="color:brown;">48</span>]]<span style="color:navy;"> >:D!!!</span>''''' 11:55, 11 February 2012 (EST)
#This stage doesn't have to be unlocked. In Melee, it was such a headache to unlock. In SSB, there's no way to access it. [[Special:Contributions/107.7.54.122|107.7.54.122]] 13:56, 11 February 2012 (EST)
#This just looks epic.[[Special:Contributions/174.20.242.17|174.20.242.17]] 15:39, 11 February 2012 (EST)


Just gonna put it here, do not comment on when we are getting another Smash Arena. The admins will get to it when they get to it, and asking again and again will get you nowhere. [[User:Cookies and Creme|<span style="font-family: Georgia;color: black;">Cookies</span>]][[File:CnC Signature.png|20px]][[User talk:Cookies and Creme|<span style="font-family: Georgia; color: black;">Creme</span>]] 18:39, September 22, 2019 (EDT)
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#This stage is one of my favorites. Because that were master hand fight in classic mode. <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:Smash x 5432|Smash x 5432]] ([[User talk:Smash x 5432|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Smash x 5432|contribs]]) 21:28, 10 February 2012</small>
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Ok, so when’s the new Smash Arena coming? Genuine confusion. <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:TCBlitz|TCBlitz]] ([[User talk:TCBlitz|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/TCBlitz|contribs]]) 22:13, November 12, 2019</small>
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:Read what I said above. [[User:Cookies and Creme|<span style="font-family: Georgia;color: black;">Cookies</span>]][[File:CnC Signature.png|20px]][[User talk:Cookies and Creme|<span style="font-family: Georgia; color: black;">Creme</span>]] 19:11, December 9, 2019 (EST)
SSB64's Final Destination fits with a mind of Mayan theme, being less "sci-fi" in appearance and looking more like some ancient technology being brought back. This is similar to the Bryonian war mechs in Metroid Prime 3. Melee's final destination, as I described in my vote, is the most "sci-fi" appearance, with it's strange markings that speak out to the idea of an alien landing platform. On the other hand, Brawl seems to have a mix of the two, and it's difficult to tell whether Brawl's FD is made out of rock or metal. Brawl's FD appears to float using a crystal placed underneath, similar to its Battlefield, indicating a kind of ancient technology similar to SSB64. This is furthered by the fact that Brawl features a race of beings living in another floating island who are actually called "ancients".
Uhhh... how long has this been on? I just made my account in March and, judging by your comments, it's been like, two years. [[User:Weegeegaming|'''<span style="color: green;">Weegeegaming</span>''']]|[[User talk:Weegeegaming|'''''<span style="color: red;">talk</span>''''']] 04:37, April 11, 2020 (EDT)


:Smash Arena is not a priority as of right now. The admins will make a new one eventually, not yet just. [[Image:001Toad.jpg|20px]] <span style="font-family:Algerian">'''[[User:OmegaToad64|<font color="blue">OmegαToαd</font> <font color="aqua">the Toαd Wαrrior</font>]] [[User talk:OmegaToad64|<font color="springgreen">(BUP)</font></span>]]''' 04:40, April 11, 2020 (EDT)
How does Master Hand tie into this? In SSB64, where Master Hand is a child, Final Destination seems to most alien of all stages. All other stages appear to just be sets that are constructed by him, as seen by the intro. FD is outright in space, however. The seemingly ancient appearance of the platform is also puzzling, as Master Hand lives in a modern world. In Melee, Master Hand's apparent powers have been greatly expanded, as he has now created an entire world. Nonetheless, FD still has an air of mystery surrounding it. If it is a landing platform, who is it for? Master Hand and Crazy Hand certainly don't need one. Brawl's FD is then the only one whose origin is accounted for, as it appears to be built by the Ancients. Master Hand therefore does not need to justify his use of it as a battle stage.
::If you want, you can join our Discord. We have an active Smash Arena there. [[User:Cookies and Creme|<span style="font-family: Georgia;color: black;">Cookies</span>]][[File:CnC Signature.png|20px]][[User talk:Cookies and Creme|<span style="font-family: Georgia; color: black;">Creme</span>]] 17:49, April 13, 2020 (EDT)


Huh, I guess that's the end of Smash Arena. I stopped following it a few years back. RIP. --[[User:Meester Tweester|Meester Tweester]] ([[User talk:Meester Tweester|talk]]) 00:15, April 16, 2020 (EDT)
So there you have it. Just some observations I've made about each Final Destination and its role in its game. [[User:Mr. Anon|<font color="grey">'''Mr. '''</font><font color="midnightblue">'''Anon'''</font>]][[File:Anon.png|23px|link=Special:Random]][[User talk:Mr. Anon|''<span style="color: black;">talk</span>'']]  23:46, 10 February 2012 (EST)
::Smash Arena is on Discord now, the SA tab links to its page. [[:User:ZeldaStarfoxfan2164{{#if:|_({{{3}}})}}|ZeldaStarfoxfan2164]] ([[User talk:ZeldaStarfoxfan2164|talk]]) is a never lover boy 23:21, April 23, 2020 (EDT)
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==Round 256: [[Sheik]] vs. [[Greninja]]==
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# Go red Team they are going to win[[User:Smash x 5432|Smash X 5432]] ([[User talk:Smash x 5432|talk]]) 21:33, 10 February 2012 (EST)<!-- DO NOT ADD COMMENTS OR EDIT ANYTHING BELOW THIS LINE!!! -->
#There's no "pink" team unfortunately, but this color is the closest to being manly. '''''[[User:HavocReaper48|<span style="color:maroon;">--Havoc</span>]][[User talk:HavocReaper48|<span style="color:brown;">48</span>]]<span style="color:navy;"> >:D!!!</span>''''' 11:55, 11 February 2012 (EST)
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#Hmm some weird frog thing or a ninja of royalty? <span style="font-family:Algerian;font-size:10pt;background:#000;border:outset #083 2px;padding:1px">'''[[User:Serpent King|<span style="color:#083">Serpent</span>]] [[File:SKSig.png|12px|link=]] [[User talk:Serpent King|<span style="color:#ed0">King</span>]]'''</span> 00:44, 16 December 2017 (EST)
===Votes for ''Blue Team''===
#Yeah Sheik is 10x more fun to play at high level, and way more interesting to watch than Greninja most of the time. <span style="color:Green;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px skyblue">'''--'''</span>[[User:Penro|<span style="color:Red; text-shadow: 0px 0px 3px red">'''Pen'''</span>]][[User talk:Penro|<span style="color:Black; text-shadow: 0px 0px 3px black">'''ro'''</span>]] 08:41, 19 December 2017 (EST)
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#Fun fact: when I was in primary school, I once wore a similar disguise and was known as Sheik for that day. <span style="font-family:Mario Party 2/3 Textbox">[[User:RickTommy|<span style="color:red">Rick</span>]][[User talk:RickTommy|<span style="color:green">Tommy</span>]]</span> 22:27, 11 January 2018 (EST)
#I like the color schemes for most characters. [[User:LightningBlue|<font style="color:midnightblue;font-family:arial black">'''LightningBlue:</font>]] [[User talk:LightningBlue|<font style="color:turquoise;font-family:arial black">'''Electric!</font>]] 19:27, 10 February 2012 (EST)
#Sheik has a grenade, martial arts training, needles, and exploding walnuts. Greninja has a long-ass tongue, a log, and a crappy doll. Who would you choose? [[User:Iron Gladiator|Iron Reggie, Master of Memes]] ([[User talk:Iron Gladiator|talk]]) 02:04, 28 January 2018 (EST)
#Blue gets Blucas, Bluigi and Blucario. As King Dedede doesn't have a Rededede palette swap, I give this vote to the blue team. [[User:ToastUltimatum|<font color="ff8c00">'''Toast'''</font>]] [[File:Wii U Logo Transparent.png|17px|link=Special:Contributions/ToastUltimatum]][[User talk:ToastUltimatum|<font color="01a3c4">'''ltimatum'''</font>]][[File:Transparent Swadloon.png|26px]] 19:46, 10 February 2012 (EST)
#I like both of them but I like Sheik more cuz top tier [[User:SmileFtw123|SmileFtw123]] ([[User talk:SmileFtw123|talk]]) 03:05, 30 January 2018 (EST)
#Overall, the blue palette swaps are my favorite alternates (i.e. Lucas, Luigi, Samus, Wolf, Ike, C. Falcon, Diddy Kong, Dedede, Kirby, Link, Toon Link, G&W, Pit, Ness, et cetera). [[User:MeleeMarth01|MeleeMarth01]] ([[User talk:MeleeMarth01|talk]]) 20:09, 10 February 2012 (EST)
#I think I prefer Sheik a little bit more, so I guess I'll place my vote here.--[[Special:Contributions/192.197.128.21|192.197.128.21]] 13:16, 2 February 2018 (EST)
#Not my favourite colour, but I prefer the costumes characters get in Blue than the other ones. [[Special:Contributions/110.174.90.69|110.174.90.69]] 01:43, 11 February 2012 (EST)
#I prefer Sheik's aesthetic design, and Greninja isn't a very good starter in my opinion. Neither is great to me, but I prefer Sheik. --[[User:UnbeatableSith|UnbeatableSith]] ([[User talk:UnbeatableSith|talk]]) 21:41, 16 March 2018 (EDT)
#Much as I love luigi, I'm starting an LP of Pokemon Blue. (Vid 1 will be up on my userpage when it comes out, later today or maybe tomorrow)[[User:Pokémonultimate|<font color="red">'''Pokémon'''</font>]][[User Talk:Pokémonultimate|<font color="gray">''Ultimate''</font>]]  [[File:PokUltSigPic.JPG|20px]] 02:53, 11 February 2012 (EST)
# [[Special:Contributions/174.53.1.71|174.53.1.71]] 10:57, 5 February 2018 (EST)
#Blue's mah fave color, Sonic and Marth (2 of my 3 faves) are normally blue by default, and Per ToastUltimatum. [[User:Bowzerdude|<font color="green">'''Bowzer'''</font><font color="yellow">'''dude'''</font>]][[User talk:Bowzerdude|<font color="red">'''- Pure Epicness!'''</font>]] [[File:BowserHeadSSBM.png|BowserHeadSSBM.png|19px]]  04:11, 11 February 2012 (EST)
#She has a chain. [[User:Pokebub|Pokebub]] ([[User talk:Pokebub|talk]]) 22:43, 16 March 2018 (EDT)
#They have Lucario :P ☆<span style="font-family:Algerian">[[User:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:green">The</span> <span style="color:red">Solar</span> <span style="color:blue">Dragon</span>]] <sup>([[User talk:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:gold">Talk</span>]] - [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon|Contribs.]])</sup></span>☆ 04:28, 11 February 2012 (EST)
#I can't stand fighting against Greninja, and Sheik was one of my mains in Brawl. Also, I feel like she has a higher chance of making it into Smash 5. [[User:TheNuttyOne|TheNuttyOne]] 15:58, 11 April 2018 (EDT)
#Blue is my fav color and in brawl im always on blue team!(If I do a team brawl, that is!)[[Special:Contributions/72.136.208.84|72.136.208.84]] 09:36, 11 February 2012 (EST)
#[[Special:Contributions/204.191.136.150|204.191.136.150]] 11:18, 11 February 2012 (EST)
#My favorite color is blue. [[User:.....|.....]] [[User talk:.....|Bein']] [[Special:Contributions/.....|Friends]] 11:21, 11 February 2012 (EST)
#MARTH!!![[Special:Contributions/174.20.242.17|174.20.242.17]] 15:38, 11 February 2012 (EST)
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# Im lucky first vote.=3 GO GREEN!!!--<span style="font-family:Corbel; font-size:12pt">[[User:YoshiEggs|<span style="color:forestgreen">'''Yoshi'''</span>]][[User talk:YoshiEggs|<span style="color:forestgreen">'''Eggs'''</span>]]</span> [[File:YoshiEggsSig.gif|19px]] 19:21, 10 February 2012 (EST)
#My personal favourite colour. --- <font face="American Typewriter">''[[User:ReiDemon|Rei]][[User_talk:ReiDemon|Demon]], Author Extraordinaire''</font>, 20:15, 10 February 2012 (EST)
#---->[[User:Yoshirocks341|<font color="green">'''Yoshi'''</font><font color="darkbrown">'''rocks'''</font>]][[User talk:Yoshirocks341|<font color="gold">'''341'''</font>]] [[Image:YoshiHeadSSBB.png|19px]] 21:19, 10 February 2012 (EST)
#Green is my favorite color. [[User:Mr. Anon|<font color="grey">'''Mr. '''</font><font color="midnightblue">'''Anon'''</font>]][[File:Anon.png|23px|link=Special:Random]][[User talk:Mr. Anon|''<span style="color: black;">talk</span>'']] 23:30, 10 February 2012 (EST)
# The Epic 2nd Banana, Hero of Time, Awesome Dino and a FREAKIN DRAGON/TURTLE? Well so long Red vs Blue cuz Green is '''JUST TOO AMAZING'''[[User:Drakon64|<font color="forestgreen">'''Drakon'''</font><font color="seablue">'''6'''</font>]][[User talk:Drakon64|<font color="gold">'''4'''</font>]]  [[File:CharizardHeadSSBB.png|19px]] 23:50, 10 February 2012 (EST)
#<span style="font-family:Agency FB; font-size:12pt">[[User:BlindColours|<font color="black">'''Blind'''</font>]]</span><span style="font-family: Berlin Sans FB; font-size:12pt">[[User talk:BlindColours|<font color="red">C</font><font color="purple">ol</font>]][[ Special:Contributions/BlindColours|<font color="green">ou</font><font color="seablue">rs</font>]]</span> [[File:Boing.png|50px]] 11:25, 11 February 2012 (EST)
#Per Mr. Anon '''<font face="Algerian">[[User:Avengingbandit|<font color="#00FFFF">THE</font>]][[User talk:Avengingbandit|<font color="#FF00FF">AVENGING</font>]][[Special:Contributions/Avengingbandit|<font color="#FFFF00">BANDIT</font>]]</font>''' 13:47, 11 February 2012 (EST)
#Prefer green. [[User:Unknown the Hedgehog|<font color="#FF0000">Unknown </font>]] [[User talk:Unknown the Hedgehog|<font color="#780000">the </font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Unknown the Hedgehog|<font color="#000000">Hedgehog</font>]] 13:51, 11 February 2012 (EST)
#Go green! It sure is a nice color, I tell you what. [[Special:Contributions/107.7.54.122|107.7.54.122]] 13:58, 11 February 2012 (EST)
#Well, it is my favourite of the three colours. [[User:RickTommy|RickTommy]] ([[User talk:RickTommy|talk]]) 18:00, 11 February 2012 (EST)
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#Shiek is better <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:24.234.62.218 |24.234.62.218 ]] ([[User talk:24.234.62.218 |talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/24.234.62.218 |contribs]]) 23:22, 11 December 2017 (EST)</small>
This page needs more space (aka longer <code> div </code> box). [[User:LightningBlue|<font style="color:midnightblue;font-family:arial black">'''LightningBlue:</font>]] [[User talk:LightningBlue|<font style="color:turquoise;font-family:arial black">'''Electric!</font>]] 23:23, 10 February 2012 (EST)
#very good at aerial combos# <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:73.222.194.39|73.222.194.39]] ([[User talk:73.222.194.39|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/73.222.194.39|contribs]]) 03:46, 9 January 2018</small>
:Don't really know what you mean; the divs will expand to match the content inside. [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[Image:Toomai.png|20px|link=User:Toomai/Bin|???]] The Labbie 23:40, 10 February 2012 (EST)
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==Round 124: [[Bucculus]] vs. [[ReDead]]==
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#Yay, first vote! Seriously, though, pity vote. [[Special:Contributions/68.174.11.29|68.174.11.29]] 09:08, 4 February 2012 (EST)
#believe it or not, this thing actually heals me [[User:Lucasthefourth|<span style="color:red"> :o '''Lucas'''</span>]][[User talk:Lucasthefourth|'''-IV-''']] [[Special:Contributions/Lucasthefourth|'''CREEP''']] [[Image:MCLucas.png|25px]] 10:15, 4 February 2012 (EST)
#Pity Vote [[Special:Contributions/204.191.129.218|204.191.129.218]] 12:34, 4 February 2012 (EST)
# Epicly pity [[User:Sederts|Sederts]] ([[User talk:Sederts|talk]]) 18:46, 4 February 2012 (EST)
#Let's see... An enemy who hurts me, or an enemy who hurts me slightly then drops a recovery item that MORE THAN makes up for it. Sure, these are annoying, but I don't play SSE much, anyway...[[User:Pokémonultimate|<font color="red">'''Pokémon'''</font>]][[User Talk:Pokémonultimate|<font color="gray">''Ultimate''</font>]]  [[File:PokUltSigPic.JPG|20px]] 00:50, 5 February 2012 (EST)
#these guys kiss you and are kind of cute...Wa?[[Special:Contributions/207.236.90.177|207.236.90.177]] 09:01, 6 February 2012 (EST)
#This one looks scarier. >_< [[Special:Contributions/140.182.166.5|140.182.166.5]] 10:41, 6 February 2012 (EST)
#ReDeads gave me nightmares as a kid. [[Special:Contributions/199.185.67.18|199.185.67.18]] 11:25, 6 February 2012 (EST)
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#I find Sheik's playstyle in SSB4 to be quite aggravating to play as or against. Greninja's not so frustrating. [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Verdana;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 01:32, 11 December 2017 (EST)
#The other enemy is fucking annoying. [[User:Mr. Anon|<font color="grey">'''Mr. '''</font><font color="midnightblue">'''Anon'''</font>]][[File:Anon.png|23px|link=Special:Random]][[User talk:Mr. Anon|''<span style="color: black;">talk</span>'']]  23:31, 3 February 2012 (EST)
#Us Pokémon gotta stick together I guess. ''[[User:Alex Parpotta|<span style="color: blue;">'''Alex Parpotta'''</span>]] the [[User talk:Alex Parpotta|<span style="color: red;">'''flying lobster!'''</span>]]'' 04:54, 11 December 2017 (EST)
#<s>'Cause it has an image I made</s> Because Legend of Zelda, bro... --- <font face="American Typewriter">''[[User:ReiDemon|Rei]][[User_talk:ReiDemon|Demon]], Author Extraordinaire''</font>, 23:43, 3 February 2012 (EST)
#I like ''Pokémon'' more, Greninja has appeared in more than just one canon game (discounting remakes), and its playstyle in ''Smash'' is far more interesting to watch. [[File:034.png|20px]] '''<span style="font-family:Algerian">[[User:DracoRexKing|<font color="red">DracoRex,]]</font> [[User talk:DracoRexKing|<font color="olive">Creator of the Land]]</font></span>''' 07:45, 11 December 2017 (EST)
#OoT=Win '''''[[User:Dr. Pain 99|<font color=red>D<font color=#DC0000>o<font color=#A50000>c<font color=#6E0000>t<font color=#370000>o<font color=black>rP</font>a</font>i</font>n</font>9</font>9</font>]]''''' [[Special:Contributions/Dr. Pain 99|<sub>{ROLLBACKER}</sub>]] 23:54, 3 February 2012 (EST)
#Greninja is a great Pokémon and he did appear in Sun and Moon as a present. Greninja's playstyle in ''Smash 4'' is... awesome! [[User:Dragonfirebreath25|Dragonfirebreath25]] ([[User talk:Dragonfirebreath25|talk]]) 09:33, 13 December 2017 (EST)
#He's annoying, but I love the Underground Maze. --[[User:MeleeMarth01|MeleeMarth01]] ([[User talk:MeleeMarth01|talk]]) 00:12, 4 February 2012 (EST)
#R.I.P Sheik after Melee. The Smash 4 Sheik combo game is nothing like its predecessor. also I love the hydro pump jank [[User:Lasagna|lasagna B)]] ([[User talk:Lasagna|talk]]) 10:27, 13 December 2017 (EST)
#Disgusting, but I utterly loathe Fish Lips along with mostly everything pertaining to the Subspace Emissary's adventure game, OCs, and story, as ReDead comes from games that are actually, well, ''good''. Seriously, these enemies are ''dumb''. Who designed those abominations, anyway? [[User:Hawk 21|<font color="maroon">'''Hawk'''</font> <font color="orange">'''21'''</font>]][[File:FZeroSymbol.png|25px]][[User talk:Hawk 21|''<span style="color: red;">'''Talk'''</span>'']] 01:54, 4 February 2012 (EST)
#In Smash 5 Greninja's Final Smash should be Ash-Greninja. [[Special:Contributions/24.52.19.237|24.52.19.237]] 19:50, 15 December 2017 (EST)
#Wow, Bucculus looks scarier than a ReDead. ''[[Special:Contributions/JamesHeart123|<font color="green">123</font>]][[User:JamesHeart123|<font color="blue">James</font>]][[User talk:JamesHeart123|<font color="purple">Heart</font>]]'' [[file:PatheticStickFigure.jpg|20px|link=Special:Random]] 02:55, 4 February 2012 (EST)
#Better nerf Greninja <span style="font-family:AR JULIAN; font-size:12pt">[[User:ChuckNorris24|<span style="color:red">Chuck</span>]][[User talk:ChuckNorris24|<span style="color:green">Norris</span>]]</span>[[File:24.png|23px]]  23:10, 15 December 2017 (EST)
#ReDeads are WAY more formidible than Bucculus. [[Special:Contributions/110.174.90.69|110.174.90.69]] 03:54, 4 February 2012 (EST)
#{{Sm|iStudying}}. Nuff said. [[User:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: red;">'''Aidan'''</span>]], [[User talk:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: green;">'''the Festive Rurouni'''</span>]] 20:52, 18 December 2017 (EST)
#I find ReDeads rather relatable to the typical teenager. They sleep all day, walk with a droop, speak through a series of groans and grunts, latch onto anything they deem attractive, and... Yeah. [[User:ToastUltimatum|<font color="ff8c00">'''Toast'''</font>]] [[File:Wii U Logo Transparent.png|17px|link=Special:Contributions/ToastUltimatum]][[User talk:ToastUltimatum|<font color="01a3c4">'''ltimatum'''</font>]][[File:Transparent Swadloon.png|26px]]
#--[[Special:Contributions/23.17.208.28|23.17.208.28]] 01:46, 24 January 2018 (EST)
# ^ Gee, thanks. --[[Special:Contributions/174.59.4.202|174.59.4.202]] 09:58, 4 February 2012 (EST)
#Greninja is just the character I think is cooler (although ANY ninja gets cool points). I do hope they change his final smash, however, if he's gonna be in Smash 5 [[User:Crazy456Rhino|Crazy456Rhino]] ([[User talk:Crazy456Rhino|talk]]) 12:02, 9 March 2018 (EST)
#ITS A FREAKIN ZOMBIE!!!!!!![[User:Drakon64|<font color="forestgreen">'''Drakon'''</font><font color="seablue">'''6'''</font>]][[User talk:Drakon64|<font color="gold">'''4'''</font>]]  [[File:CharizardHeadSSBB.png|19px]] 10:50, 4 February 2012 (EST)
#I love Greninja so much. He's the best of my four mains, and I hope he's in Smash 5! [[User:Capnap64|Capnap64]] ([[User talk:Capnap64|talk]]) 09:33, 4 April 2018 (EDT)
#The ReDeads are very easy to get by. But the Bucculus are very annoying. [[User:.....|.....]] [[User talk:.....|The]] [[Special:Contributions/.....|Liquid]] 11:27, 4 February 2012 (EST)
#Greninja is fun. Sheik is not. Sheik is aggravating, both to play as and against. Greninja is not. Greninja is a hecking awesome ninja that can literally make shurikens out of water! Sheik just throws needles at people and plays a harp. Enough said. [[Special:Contributions/72.133.91.93|72.133.91.93]] 08:05, 10 May 2018 (EDT) Blueflame105
# Zombie vs. A thing that attacks by kissing,  I think I know what I'm voting for...[[User:Yoshirocks341|<font color="green">'''Yoshi'''</font><font color="darkbrown">'''rocks'''</font>]][[User talk:Yoshirocks341|<font color="gold">'''341'''</font>]] [[Image:YoshiHeadSSBB.png|19px]] 15:51, 4 February 2012 (EST)
#Hate them both, but if I had to pick one, it would be this one. --[[File:Fireemblemlogo.png|67px|link=User:FireEmblemFan275]][[User:FireEmblemFan275|<font color="gray">'''Fan'''</font>]][[User talk:FireEmblemFan275|<font color="gold">'''2'''</font><font color="orange">'''7'''</font><font color="maroon">'''5'''</font>]] 16:46, 4 February 2012 (EST)
#A lot less annoying than Bucculus, and a lot easier to kill. Seriously, you have to jump and use a down aerial to kill a Bucculus, and even that only works some of the time. [[User:Takava|Takava]] ([[User talk:Takava|talk]]) 23:50, 4 February 2012 (EST)
# Which is the worser of the two evils? The Bucculus (it seems everyone hates those guys). In Ocarina of Time, Redeads were even ''easier'' to defeat. Just use the Sun Song. [[User:LightningBlue|<font style="color:midnightblue;font-family:arial black">'''LightningBlue:</font>]] [[User talk:LightningBlue|<font style="color:turquoise;font-family:arial black">'''Electric!</font>]] 02:39, 5 February 2012 (EST)
# I like zombies. '''<font face="Algerian">[[User:Avengingbandit|<font color="#00FFFF">THE</font>]][[User talk:Avengingbandit|<font color="#FF00FF">AVENGING</font>]][[Special:Contributions/Avengingbandit|<font color="#FFFF00">BANDIT</font>]]</font>''' 22:56, 5 February 2012 (EST)
#ReDead's a zombie. Bucculus is a plant. Logistically? No contest. [[Special:Contributions/92.28.200.13|92.28.200.13]] 02:57, 6 February 2012 (EST)
#Bucculus doesnt do much other than slow u down. more of an annoyance than an enemy.[[Special:Contributions/184.7.168.4|184.7.168.4]] 07:40, 6 February 2012 (EST)
#The redead can kill people that dosnt know what to do but the Buccalus cant kill a thing like even a noob can escape it(by accident)--[[User:Arcwarioman|Arcwarioman]] ([[User talk:Arcwarioman|talk]]) 16:54, 6 February 2012 (EST)
#Urm... they don't try to kiss you to death! <span style="text-shadow:2px 2px 2px gold; font-family:Elephant">[[User:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:red">Solar</span> <span style="color:green">Dragon</span>]] <sup>([[User talk:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:black">Talk</span>]] <span style="color:white">'''•'''</span> [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon|<span style="color:blue">Contribs.</span>]])</sup></span> 18:02, 6 February 2012 (EST)
#More fun to kill. Even though they're already dead, so, um, more like cut into tiny bits.[[Special:Contributions/174.20.247.93|174.20.247.93]] 19:19, 6 February 2012 (EST)
#It still gives me nightmares, but they're way easier to kill by a longshot (see what i did there? +5000 internets to whoever gets the joke)--[[Special:Contributions/76.97.139.164|76.97.139.164]] 21:08, 6 February 2012 (EST)
#One of my favorite Zelda enemies. I don't really care for Bucculus. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[Image: TyranitarMS.png ]] 22:16, 6 February 2012 (EST)
#ReDeads have a cool, somewhat-atypical prefix in their name (as opposed to ''un''dead), come from the ''[[Legend of Zelda]]'' series, and aren't as freaking annoying as the kiss-of-death Bucculus/Bucculi/whatever, who remind me of a mushroom enemy from the game ''Rocket: Robot On Wheels'' that does a similar thing, although it just latches onto you without actually draining energy. And dispatching oneself of Bucculus is almost a nightmare in itself, as you can't just walk up to it and attack. [http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/DamnedBats GOSHDARN BUCCULUS], indeed. [[Special:Contributions/72.3.33.7|72.3.33.7]] 20:16, 8 February 2012 (EST)
#The guys above got the idea. '''''[[User:HavocReaper48|<span style="color:maroon;">--Havoc</span>]][[User talk:HavocReaper48|<span style="color:brown;">48</span>]]<span style="color:navy;"> >:D!!!</span>''''' 21:04, 9 February 2012 (EST)
#Fond memories of Oot.<span style="font-family:Jokerman">[[User:Vincent Tran|<span style="color:Salmon">Vincent</span>]] [[User talk:Vincent Tran|<span style="color:red">Tran</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Vincent Tran|<span style="color:#F52887">svestite O_o</span>]]</span>[[File:Kirby-1.png|30px]] 18:38, 10 February 2012 (EST)
 
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#I hate the other one sooo... I think I choose the redead cause I think there better and at first I called them zombies since I didn't know there real name.=0 <nowiki>[[YoshiEggs]]</nowiki> <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:YoshiEggs|YoshiEggs]] ([[User talk:YoshiEggs|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/YoshiEggs|contribs]]) 19:24, 4 February 2012</small>
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Shouldn't this match have been decided, like, several weeks ago? [[User:Iron Warrior|<span style="color: red;">'''Iron Reggie,'''</span>]] [[User talk:Iron Warrior|<span style="color: cyan;">'''Master of Memes'''</span>]] 10:31, 26 February 2018 (EST)
Lucas, are you referring to its item drops? [[User:Mr. Anon|<font color="grey">'''Mr. '''</font><font color="midnightblue">'''Anon'''</font>]][[File:Anon.png|23px|link=Special:Random]][[User talk:Mr. Anon|''<span style="color: black;">talk</span>'']]  11:36, 4 February 2012 (EST)
:Yes, it can drop maxim tomatoes, which can heal more then it damages [[User:Lucasthefourth|<span style="color:red"> :o '''Lucas'''</span>]][[User talk:Lucasthefourth|'''-IV-''']] [[Special:Contributions/Lucasthefourth|'''CREEP''']] [[Image:MCLucas.png|25px]] 10:47, 7 February 2012 (EST)


This js still going? Currently Sheik 11, Greninja 12. [[User:SmileFtw123]] [[User talk:SmileFtw123]]
I think he is being either ironic or true. [[User:LightningBlue|<font style="color:midnightblue;font-family:arial black">'''LightningBlue:</font>]] [[User talk:LightningBlue|<font style="color:turquoise;font-family:arial black">'''Electric!</font>]] 02:43, 5 February 2012 (EST)
Smileftw the tier list dose not matter im a dedede and jiggly main


Seriously, this should have happened months ago! Who's in charge of Smash Arena anyway? Blueflame105
Another great choice. These two are very annoying enemies in the Smash Bros. Series (both from separate games).  [[User:LightningBlue|<font style="color:midnightblue;font-family:arial black">'''LightningBlue:</font>]] [[User talk:LightningBlue|<font style="color:turquoise;font-family:arial black">'''Electric!</font>]] 02:43, 5 February 2012 (EST)


Ay, they did change his final smash for Smash 5. Nice. [[User:Crazy456Rhino|Crazy456Rhino]] ([[User talk:Crazy456Rhino|talk]]) 15:18, November 5, 2019 (EST)
Well, first vote for ReDead contains a bad word (f word)... <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:207.236.90.177|207.236.90.177]] ([[User talk:207.236.90.177|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/207.236.90.177|contribs]]) 14:04, 6 February 2012</small>
:[[SmashWiki:What SmashWiki is not#SmashWiki is not censored|Cuss words are allowed]] as long as they are not used to demean a specific person. ''[[Special:Contributions/JamesHeart123|<font color="green">123</font>]][[User:JamesHeart123|<font color="blue">James</font>]][[User talk:JamesHeart123|<font color="purple">Heart</font>]]'' [[file:PatheticStickFigure.jpg|20px|link=Special:Random]] 13:14, 6 February 2012 (EST)
 
I am disappointed in the lack of [[The Legend of Zelda]] references. [[User:LightningBlue|<font style="color:midnightblue;font-family:arial black">'''LightningBlue:</font>]] [[User talk:LightningBlue|<font style="color:turquoise;font-family:arial black">'''Electric!</font>]] 21:39, 6 February 2012 (EST)
 
James don't mislead people by changing the name of the article link. [[SmashWiki:What SmashWiki is not#SmashWiki is not censored| SmashWiki is not censored]]. [[User:LightningBlue|<font style="color:midnightblue;font-family:arial black">'''LightningBlue:</font>]] [[User talk:LightningBlue|<font style="color:turquoise;font-family:arial black">'''Electric!</font>]] 21:39, 6 February 2012 (EST)
:I fail to see how it is misleading; it brings the viewer to the appropriate area with no problems. --- <font face="American Typewriter">''[[User:ReiDemon|Rei]][[User_talk:ReiDemon|Demon]], Author Extraordinaire''</font>, 22:07, 6 February 2012 (EST)
Ok ok. Fine. [[User:LightningBlue|<font style="color:midnightblue;font-family:arial black">'''LightningBlue:</font>]] [[User talk:LightningBlue|<font style="color:turquoise;font-family:arial black">'''Electric!</font>]] 13:30, 7 February 2012 (EST)
 
Admittedly, I thought that Re-Dead Vote #8 was quite the amusing comparison. Surprisingly, I'm just now learning about the possibility of Bucculus sometimes dropping HP-restoring food, although that's probably because I don't let Bucculus stick around long enough for its poison sac to fill anyway, due to Bucculus being the embodiment of sheer annoyance. Also, the number of Google Search hits for the term "Bucculus" are a bit surprising...but it looks like that's due to there possibly being [http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Bucculus another meaning] for "bucculus"... [[Special:Contributions/72.3.33.7|72.3.33.7]] 20:16, 8 February 2012 (EST)
 
Um, do any of us think this should be over by now?--[[User:Arcwarioman|Arcwarioman]] ([[User talk:Arcwarioman|talk]]) 10:11, 9 February 2012 (EST)
:Smash Arena fights last about a week and are updated each Friday or early Saturday (in my time zone; Eastern Time in the United States). ''[[Special:Contributions/JamesHeart123|<font color="green">123</font>]][[User:JamesHeart123|<font color="blue">James</font>]][[User talk:JamesHeart123|<font color="purple">Heart</font>]]'' [[file:PatheticStickFigure.jpg|20px|link=Special:Random]] 11:14, 9 February 2012 (EST)
 
@Vote 20 on Re-Dead: Um, they don't kiss you, but they look like they're trying to mouth-rape anything they see.[[User:Drakon64|<font color="forestgreen">'''Drakon'''</font><font color="seablue">'''6'''</font>]][[User talk:Drakon64|<font color="gold">'''4'''</font>]] [[File:CharizardHeadSSBB.png|19px]] 17:55, 9 February 2012 (EST)
 
Drakon they are just grabbing you. They may have ''actually'' raped eveything they see in Ocarina of Time (or absorbed you). If youyou have played they game it ''really'' looks like that.[[User:LightningBlue|<font style="color:midnightblue;font-family:arial black">'''LightningBlue:</font>]] [[User talk:LightningBlue|<font style="color:turquoise;font-family:arial black">'''Electric!</font>]] 18:45, 9 February 2012 (EST)
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