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Ladies and gentlemen, welcome, editors and users, to the '''[[SmashWiki:Smash Arena|Smash Arena]]'''! Each week (or possibly less often, if the [[SW:SSS|wiki's status]] is high or there's not much voter traffic) this forum hosts a tussle between two (or  sometimes three!) characters, items, stages or anything else from the [[Super Smash Bros. (series)|''Super Smash Bros.'' series]]! The winner gets, well, nothing. It's more of a poll but functionally, this is a popularity contest. You may vote for your favorite or who you think would win in a competition between the two combatants that round. No, you don't have to vote for the character with strength & power, or the stage considered more "fair", or the combatant with the most fans - just vote if you are a total fanboy of the participant. So what are you waiting for? Get voting!
Ladies and Gentlemen, welcome, editors and users, to the '''Smash Arena'''! Each week this forum hosts a tussle between two characters, items, stages or anything else from the ''[[Super Smash Bros. (series)|Super Smash Bros.]]'' series! The winner gets, well, nothing. It's more of a poll but functionally, this is a popularity contest. You may vote for your favorite or who you think would win in an competition between the two combatants that round. No, you don't have to vote for the character with strength & power, just vote if you are a total fanboy of the character. So what are you waiting for? Get voting! Remember, you can remain anonymous! If you have any requests for future fights, please feel free to leave a message [[Forum:Suggestions|here]].


==The Rules==
==The Rules==
#When voting, you can give a brief comment on why you voted the way you did, or you can just leave your signature. Long explanations for your vote are discouraged, as they are unnecessary (a vote is worth the same regardless of its reasoning), and they inflate the size of an already large page.
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#Type <code><nowiki>~~~~</nowiki></code> after your vote to [[SW:SIGN|sign]] it, whether you are logged in or not. Using the wrong number of "~"s counts as not signing - your signature must have both your signature itself and the time.
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#There is a line in each section consisting of "DO NOT ADD COMMENTS OR EDIT ANYTHING BELOW THIS LINE". You are to follow this rule; do not just type your vote at the bottom of the editing window. Not following this rule results in your vote being displayed in the wrong place.
#There is a line in each section consisting of "DO NOT ADD COMMENTS OR EDIT ANYTHING BELOW THIS LINE". You are to do so; do not just type your vote at the bottom of the editing window. Not following this rule results in your vote being displayed in the wrong place.
#Put your vote below other votes; that is, so the votes are in chronological order.
#Put your vote below other votes; that is, so the votes are in chronological order.
#You may change or remove your vote at any time. To do this you must remove your old vote in its entirety; this is an exception to the "never remove comments" rule.
#Any comments about the fight should be left in the comment section. However, you are not to post argumentative, accusative, or any sort of comment with the intention of starting an argument with someone on the opposing side. The Smash Arena is a popularity contest, there's no need to argue with the other side on why your choice is superior, or why they are wrong with their reasoning for picking their choice. You are also not to post comments that are just pointing out/complaining how close/one sided a matchup is. These sorts of comments are worthless, and do nothing but make an already large page larger.
#You may vote only in the current fight; all previous fights are closed.
#You may only vote in the current fight; all previous fights are closed.
#Do not leave a space between your comment and the ones above it (and/or below it). Extra spacing results in the list numbers becoming disjointed.
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#While previewing an edit of a single section, you will see loose formatting marks (such as a trailing <code>|}</code>). Do not alter or delete them; they are important to the page's construction and take effect only when the entire round is viewed.
#If there are multiple fights in a single round, try to make all your votes in a single edit.
#If there are multiple fights in a single round, try to make all your votes in a single edit.
#Any comments about the fight should be left in the comments section. The following kinds of comments are not allowed:
#*Comments relating to how close or one-sided a matchup is.
#*Comments about other users' opinions. You can point out that a user may have gotten a fact wrong, but you can't say things such as "That's not a good reason" or "But the other guy is better because X". Users can vote for any reason they want; trying to argue with someone's opinion generally has no positive outcome, in addition to simply inflating the comments section of an already large page.
#**Similarly, avoid writing votes that may invite an argument. Stating your opinion is fine, but don't make it easy for others to see it as goading.


If your vote is not added correctly - specifically, it breaks rules 3, 4, or 5 - you have a short amount of time to fix it (typically between fifteen minutes to an hour). After this time, it may be corrected and moved by any user to the Half-Votes section (adding the [[Template:Unsigned|unsigned template]] if necessary), and it will count as half a vote. Other users should not fix such broken votes without also making them half-votes. Your vote will also be considered a half-vote if your edit causes someone else's valid vote to break one of these rules. Attempting to move your vote out of the Half-Votes section may result in it being worth zero (and subsequently deleted) at an operator's discretion.
If your vote is not added correctly - that is, it breaks rules 3, 4, or 5 - you have one hour to fix it. After this time, it may be moved by any user to the Half-Votes section (adding the [[Template:Unsigned|unsigned template]] if necessary), and it will count as half a vote. Attempting to move your vote out of the Half-Votes section may result in it being worth zero at an operator's discretion. In addition, if your votes-to-rulebreaks ratio climbs too high, your votes may count for zero until the ratio drops to an acceptable level.
 
Intentional half-votes undermine the intent of the half-vote system as a way to punish voters for voting incorrectly. It is legal to want a vote to be worth half, but it is very heavily discouraged, and you must state in your vote you want it to be worth half.
 
=Round 100: The Super-Centennial=
==[[Luigi]] vs. [[Captain Falcon]]==
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===Votes for ''Luigi''===
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#Gotta love Bluigi. [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 21:40, 19 August 2011 (EDT)
#Luigi is a favorable character. <font face="Eurostile" size="3">[[User:Blue Ninjakoopa|<span style="color:#00008B">Blue Ninjakoopa</span>]]</font><sup>([[User talk:Blue Ninjakoopa|Talk]])</sup> 21:52, 19 August 2011 (EDT)
#The underdog. [[User:Unknown the Hedgehog|<font color="#FF0000">Unknown </font>]] [[User talk:Unknown the Hedgehog|<font color="#780000">the </font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Unknown the Hedgehog|<font color="#000000">Hedgehog</font>]] 22:22, 19 August 2011 (EDT)
#Go Weegee! [[Special:Contributions/66.222.171.225|66.222.171.225]] 22:32, 19 August 2011 (EDT)
#That's mama Luigi to you, Captain Falcon! [[User:Squishyfrog|<span style="color: lightseagreen;">'''Squishyfrog'''</span>]] [[User talk:Squishyfrog|''<span style="color: lightseagreen;">Chat</span>'']] 22:37, 19 August 2011 (EDT)
#YESH WEEGEE!!<font face="Forte">[[User:BlindColours|<font color="#FFA500">Blin</font>]][[User talk:BlindColours|<font color="#00FFFF">dcol</font>]][[Special:Contributions/BlindColours|<font color="#00FF00">ours</font>]]</font> Game Boy[[File:Weegee_Sprite.gif|7px]] 23:24, 19 August 2011 (EDT)
#Luigi = Cowardly yet heroic hero and uses a go kart. C. Falcon = Makes left turns in a go-kart. <font face="Lucida Fax">[[User:PikminBrawler|<font color="Red">Pikmin</font>]][[User talk:PikminBrawler|<font color="Blue">Brawl</font>]][[Special:Contributions/PikminBrawler|<font color="Yellow">er</font>]]</font>[[File:OlimarHeadSSBB.png|20px]] Hop! 23:32, 19 August 2011 (EDT)
#Sorry CF, but Luigi's my 2nd fave. Not even Falcon Punch can swing my vote. --[[Special:Contributions/107.5.57.137|107.5.57.137]] 07:25, 20 August 2011 (EDT)
#Luigi is my main. You aren't my main, CF. You're just a sack of old sacks. :p -[[User:Ivy73|<span style="color:forestgreen">Ivy</span>]][[User talk:Ivy73|<span style="color:blue">73</span>]][[File:002MS.png]] 12:13, 20 August 2011 (EDT)
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Multiple votes in a round are not allowed; attempts to circumvent this with [[sockpuppet]]s will result in all your votes being deleted, and is a blockable offense. Probated users who attempt to circumvent their probation with sockpuppets are also committing a blockable offense and will have their vote discounted. Remember that admins have access to CheckUser to check the IPs of any user, and will use it when sockpuppetry is suspected.
===Votes for ''Captain Falcon''===
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#Do I need a reason? [[User:Mr. Anon|Mr. Anon]] ([[User talk:Mr. Anon|talk]]) 20:43, 19 August 2011 (EDT)
#Falcon Punch! [[User:.....|.....]] [[User talk:.....|Smash454]] [[File:PikachuHeadSSBB.png|19px]] [[Special:Contributions/.....|My life for Aiur!]] 20:45, 19 August 2011 (EDT)
#FALCON PAWNCHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!! <span style="font-family:Forte">[[User:Megatron1|<span style="color:maroon">Mega</span>]][[User talk:Megatron1|<span style="color:silver">Tron1</span>]][[User:Megatron1/Laughology|<span style="color:blue">XD</span>]]</span>[[File:Decepticon.png|19px|:p]] 20:53, 19 August 2011 (EDT)
#YESZ!~[[User:ReiDemon|Rei]]''[[User_talk:ReiDemon|Demon]] 20:58, 19 August 2011 (EDT)
#Predicted he would show up. '''''[[User:HavocReaper48|<span style="color:aqua;">Havoc</span>]][[User talk:HavocReaper48|<span style="color:midnightblue;">Reaper</span>]]''''' 21:09, 19 August 2011 (EDT)
#Duh, FALCON PUNCH!! And Luigi's side special looks like he's taking a number 2... [[User:Tjahyadi|Tjahyadi]] ([[User talk:Tjahyadi|talk]]) 21:29, 19 August 2011 (EDT)
#FALCOWN... Dude, Falcon vs. Luigi, this is a joke. I like Luigi, but there's no conte-PAWNCH!!!! [[User:25timmy16|<font color="aquamarine">25T16</font>]] [[File:MarioHeadSSBB.png|20px]] [[User talk:25timmy16|''<span style="color: crimson;">It's-a me!</span>'']] 22:08, 19 August 2011 (EDT)
#Has always been far better with Captain Falcon and he's one of my mains. [[Special:Contributions/110.174.90.69|110.174.90.69]] 23:09, 19 August 2011 (EDT)
#Because he's Captain Falcon. [[User:Hawk 21|Hawk 21]] ([[User talk:Hawk 21|talk]]) 23:18, 19 August 2011 (EDT)
# '''''[[User:Dr. Pain 99|<font color=navy>D<font color=#190080>o<font color=#310080>c<font color=#490080>t<font color=#620080>o<font color=purple>rP</font>a</font>i</font>n</font>9</font>9</font>]]''''' <small>[[Special:Contributions/Dr. Pain 99|{ROLLBACKER}]]</small> 01:10, 20 August 2011 (EDT)
# It really can't be said too many times. FALCON PAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWNCH!!! [[User:Fuddlebob|Fuddlebob]] ([[User talk:Fuddlebob|talk]]) 01:26, 20 August 2011 (EDT)
# I've listed 16 reasons on my userpage. <sup>Smiddle&nbsp;</sup>[[User:Smiddle|君怒る]][[user talk:Smiddle|?]] 02:48, 20 August 2011 (EDT)
#The Knee is superior to some weak little tap. Sorry, Karate Chop. [[User:ToastUltimatum|<font color="darkorange">Toast</font><font color="darkbrown">Ultimatum</font>]] [[File:Swadloon Sprite.jpg|30px]][[User talk:ToastUltimatum|''<span style="color: silver;">Complaints Box</span>'']] 04:32, 20 August 2011 (EDT)
#I really hate Luigi in Brawl. ☆<span style="font-family:Algerian">[[User:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:green">The</span>]] [[User talk:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:red">Solar</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon|<span style="color:blue">Dragon</span>]]</span>☆ 04:36, 20 August 2011 (EDT)
#Sorry the Captain voted so late in the match, but Falcon is my absolute best :P (Duh) [[User:Captain Falcon|<font color="#00008b">'''Captain Falcon'''</font>]] [[User talk:Captain Falcon|<font color="#00008b">(''Falcon Edit!'')</font>]] [[File:CFalconHeadSSBB.png|19px]] 06:20, 20 August 2011 (EDT).
#All of his special moves are awesome!--'''''[[User:PSIWolf|<font color=#6E0000>P</font><font color=#A50000>S</font><font color=#DC0000>I</font><font color=#FF0000>W</font><font color=#FF3700>o</font><font color=#FF6E00>lf</font>]]''''' ([[User talk:PSIWolf|<font color=#0000ff>T</font>]] • [[Special:Contributions/PSIWolf|<font color=#0000ff>C</font>]] • [[Special:Editcount/PSIWolf|<font color=#0000ff>E</font>]]) 07:22, 20 August 2011 (EDT)
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Intentional half-votes undermine the intent of the half-vote system as a way to punish voters for voting incorrectly. It is legal to want a vote to be worth half, but it is very heavily discouraged, and you must state in your vote you want it to be worth half. If you put your vote in the half-votes section without stating reasons why you want it there, it is worth zero and may be deleted by any user. You may replace it later should you do it correctly.
===Comments===
And both of them are famous or popular <s>on the internet</s>. [[User:.....|.....]] [[User talk:.....|Smash454]] [[File:PikachuHeadSSBB.png|19px]] [[Special:Contributions/.....|My life for Aiur!]] 20:41, 19 August 2011 (EDT)
:True, but FALCON PAAAAUNCH is more memorable than Weegee. ''[[User:ReiDemon|Rei]]'''''[[User_talk:ReiDemon|Demon]]''' 21:15, 19 August 2011 (EDT)


Above all, remember that '''voting in the Smash Arena is a privilege, not a right'''. In the vein of [[SW:NOT|what SmashWiki is not]], you are expected to at least attempt reasonable contributions to the wiki if you wish to retain your privilege to participate.
@Miles I've always said Bluigi as well. In addition to Blucas and Blucario. [[User:ToastUltimatum|<font color="darkorange">Toast</font><font color="darkbrown">Ultimatum</font>]] [[File:Swadloon Sprite.jpg|30px]][[User talk:ToastUltimatum|''<span style="color: silver;">Complaints Box</span>'']] 04:35, 20 August 2011 (EDT)
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==Round 257: [[Mushroom Kingdom II]] vs. [[Magicant]]==
==[[Pictochat]] vs. [[Hanenbow]]==
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===Votes for ''Mushroom Kingdom II''===
 
===Votes for ''Pictochat''===
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:<s>1. Wow, who'd have thought that I would ever vote for a Melee stage over a Smash 4 stage? Unfortunately for Magicant, I just find the stage to be ugly and weird looking. It probably doesn't help that it runs on the 3DS but it doesn't look appealing to me in the slightest. On the other hand who can't love the design of a stage inspired by the classic Super Mario Bros. NES series itself? ''[[User:Trainer Alex|<span style="color: blue;">'''Alex'''</span>]] the [[User talk:Trainer Alex|<span style="color: red;">'''Jigglypuff trainer'''</span>]]'' 10:48, 2 June 2018 (EDT)</s>
#This is actually a good stage. [[User:Mr. Anon|Mr. Anon]] ([[User talk:Mr. Anon|talk]]) 20:43, 19 August 2011 (EDT)
#I ''hate'' Magicant with a passion. Going with the obvious better option. A classic too. [[User:KirbysCrazyAppetite|Kirby's Crazy Appetite]] ~ [[File:KirbysCrazyAppetiteSig.png|50x20px]] 12:48, 2 June 2018 (EDT)
#easier to fight on. [[User:.....|.....]] [[User talk:.....|Smash454]] [[File:PikachuHeadSSBB.png|19px]] [[Special:Contributions/.....|My life for Aiur!]] 20:48, 19 August 2011 (EDT)
#Mushroom Kingdom II = ''Super Mario Bros. 2''! [[User:Dragonfirebreath25|Dragonfirebreath25]] ([[User talk:Dragonfirebreath25|talk]]) 12:52, 2 June 2018 (EDT)
#Hanenbow is just... stupid. <span style="font-family:Forte">[[User:Megatron1|<span style="color:maroon">Mega</span>]][[User talk:Megatron1|<span style="color:silver">Tron1</span>]][[User:Megatron1/Laughology|<span style="color:blue">XD</span>]]</span>[[File:Decepticon.png|19px|:p]] 20:53, 19 August 2011 (EDT)
#[[:User:ZeldaStarfoxfan2164|ZeldaStarfoxfan2164]] ([[User talk:ZeldaStarfoxfan2164|talk]]) is a never lover boy  20:56, 2 June 2018 (EDT)
#Relatively more fast-paced for Brawl. Also, the songs of Dr. Mario (Melee) and PictoChat. [[User:ReiDemon|Rei]]''[[User_talk:ReiDemon|Demon]] 21:00, 19 August 2011 (EDT)
#The only correct answer is Mushroom Kingdom II. [[User:Pokebub|Pokebub]] ([[User talk:Pokebub|talk]]) 01:36, 4 June 2018 (EDT)
#So much more fun. One of the most underrated stages in brawl. Love how it changes.[[User:Tjahyadi|Tjahyadi]] ([[User talk:Tjahyadi|talk]]) 21:30, 19 August 2011 (EDT)
#Magicant is just weird. [[User:Awesomelink234|<span style="font-size:10pt;background:#00FF20;border:outset #083 2px;padding:1px 3px;color:#050DF7">Awesomelink234, the Super Cool Sonic Fan</span>]] [[User talk:Awesomelink234|Leave a message if needed]] 08:41, 4 June 2018 (EDT)
#The Earthquake Glitch is quite fun. [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 21:40, 19 August 2011 (EDT)
#This one's pretty close because I like trolling people with Flying Man, but this was my favorite Melee stage so nostalgia beats trolling. [[User:TheNuttyOne|TheNuttyOne]] 14:41, 7 June 2018 (EDT)
#Pictochat is the more fun stage to play on. <font face="Eurostile" size="3">[[User:Blue Ninjakoopa|<span style="color:#00008B">Blue Ninjakoopa</span>]]</font><sup>([[User talk:Blue Ninjakoopa|Talk]])</sup> 21:52, 19 August 2011 (EDT)
#Magicent's a cool stage, but I have no real relation with the ''Earthbound'' series. ''Super Mario Bros. 2'' is a good game. But speaking in terms of stages, Mushroom Kingdom II has more room to move around, no assist characters that will gang up on you (Birdo's only slightly annoying), and I like the Pidget. [[User:Alex95|Alex95]] ([[User talk:Alex95|talk]]) 21:07, 8 June 2018 (EDT)
#The same music plays EVERY SINGLE TIME on Hanebow, plus the fake water. [[User:25timmy16|<font color="aquamarine">25T16</font>]] [[File:MarioHeadSSBB.png|20px]] [[User talk:25timmy16|''<span style="color: crimson;">It's-a me!</span>'']] 22:10, 19 August 2011 (EDT)
#I'm a sucker for nostalgia, plus I like this stage better anyway, so... yeah. <span style="font-family:Corbel; font-size:12pt">[[User:Smash Master|<span style="color:darkblue">'''Smash''']] [[User talk:Smash Master|<span style="color:darkgreen">'''Master'''</span>]]</span></span> 15:22, 9 June 2018 (EDT)
#Hanebow...... = Failure. [[User:Zeldasmash|Zeldasmash]] ([[User talk:Zeldasmash|talk]]) 22:12, 19 August 2011 (EDT)
#I like Melee... and Mario... [[Special:Contributions/54.175.143.180|54.175.143.180]] 21:39, 30 June 2018 (EDT)
#I question why Hanenbow was even included as a stage. [[User:Unknown the Hedgehog|<font color="#FF0000">Unknown </font>]] [[User talk:Unknown the Hedgehog|<font color="#780000">the </font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Unknown the Hedgehog|<font color="#000000">Hedgehog</font>]] 22:22, 19 August 2011 (EDT)
#It's very close for me,  but I gotta go with MKII. it's such a throwback, I gotta go for it. Sorry Magicant. [[User:Dakota.952|Dakota.952]] [[User talk:Dakota.952]] 17:00, 8 July 2018 (EDT)
#I actually think that Hannenbow is the only useless stage is Smash history. Scold me as you wish. [[User:Squishyfrog|<span style="color: lightseagreen;">'''Squishyfrog'''</span>]] [[User talk:Squishyfrog|''<span style="color: lightseagreen;">Chat</span>'']] 22:39, 19 August 2011 (EDT)
#For me it's either a game I have never played or a series I don't care about. That and I'm a big Mario fan. [[User:CaptainGamer|Captain Gamer]] ([[User talk:CaptainGamer|talk]]) 13:06, 16 July 2018 (EDT)
#Hanenbow is quite possibly the worst stage to ever be in a Super Smash Bros. game. [[Special:Contributions/110.174.90.69|110.174.90.69]] 23:08, 19 August 2011 (EDT)
#mario bros. 2 is my choice for best nes game and this level captures my first experiences with the game [[User:XVI|XVI]] ([[User talk:XVI|talk]]) 18:33, 20 July 2018 (EDT)
# I vote Pictochat because it's a stage, unlike, y'know, that ''other'' thing. [[User:Hawk 21|Hawk 21]] ([[User talk:Hawk 21|talk]]) 23:20, 19 August 2011 (EDT)
#Even though I am a fan of Magicant because of the universe its in, Mushroom Kingdom II is just... better. In every way. [[User:Kbimbatti22|Kbimbatti22]] ([[User talk:Kbimbatti22|talk]]) 13:22, 25 July 2018 (EDT)l
# '''''[[User:Dr. Pain 99|<font color=navy>D<font color=#190080>o<font color=#310080>c<font color=#490080>t<font color=#620080>o<font color=purple>rP</font>a</font>i</font>n</font>9</font>9</font>]]''''' <small>[[Special:Contributions/Dr. Pain 99|{ROLLBACKER}]]</small> 01:10, 20 August 2011 (EDT)
#I like Magicant because it seems weird, BUT in this matchup Mushroom Kingdom II is better. It's more refined, stable and easier to play. Long live Ultimate. [[User:Sparkwave|Sparkwave]] ([[User talk:Sparkwave|talk]]) 12:06, 17 August 2018 (EDT)
#Hanenbow is just REALLY hard to play on. It has water, but YOU CAN'T SWIM!! [[User:Fuddlebob|Fuddlebob]] ([[User talk:Fuddlebob|talk]]) 01:26, 20 August 2011 (EDT)
#I don't know what to say [[User:Sammybambam11|Sammybambam11]] ([[User talk:Sammybambam11|talk]]) 14:25, 10 August 2018 (EDT)
# <sup>Smiddle&nbsp;</sup>[[User:Smiddle|君怒る]][[user talk:Smiddle|?]] 02:54, 20 August 2011 (EDT)
#Playing on Mario stages in Smash for me is an absolute treat, plus the retro-sounding music gives off so much nostalgia. Sorry Magicant, you're cool, but not as good as one of Mr. Video Game's home stages! [[File:SSB4DarkSonicHead.png|17px|link=User:SonicSpeed48]][[User talk:SonicSpeed48|<font color="navyblue">''Speed'''''48'''</font>]] 20:40, 20 August 2018 (EDT)
#Love this stage. ☆<span style="font-family:Algerian">[[User:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:green">The</span>]] [[User talk:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:red">Solar</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon|<span style="color:blue">Dragon</span>]]</span>☆ 04:36, 20 August 2011 (EDT)
#I think Mushroom Kingdom II is a much bigger throwback to the classics. Sorry Magicant! [[User talk:RetroPika|<font color="yellow">RetroPika</font>]][[File:PikachuHeadSSB.png|17px]] 03:29, 8 September 2018 (EDT)
#Although there are reasons to vote for this stage, Pictochat has one thing Hanenbow can only dream of: Dr. Mario music. [[User:Captain Falcon|<font color="#00008b">'''Captain Falcon'''</font>]] [[User talk:Captain Falcon|<font color="#00008b">(''Falcon Edit!'')</font>]] [[File:CFalconHeadSSBB.png|19px]] 06:38, 20 August 2011 (EDT)
#Mushroom kingdom is superior. Sorry, earthbound fans! [[User:NicoNiconii|NicoNiconii]] ([[User talk:NicoNiconii|talk]]) 11:16, 2 November 2018 (EDT) NicoNiconii, November 2, 2018, 11:16 AM EST
#I like drawing. LOL.--'''''[[User:PSIWolf|<font color=#6E0000>P</font><font color=#A50000>S</font><font color=#DC0000>I</font><font color=#FF0000>W</font><font color=#FF3700>o</font><font color=#FF6E00>lf</font>]]''''' ([[User talk:PSIWolf|<font color=#0000ff>T</font>]] • [[Special:Contributions/PSIWolf|<font color=#0000ff>C</font>]] • [[Special:Editcount/PSIWolf|<font color=#0000ff>E</font>]]) 07:22, 20 August 2011 (EDT)
#I've never played Earthbound so I'll cast my vote here. --[[Special:Contributions/203.128.94.27|203.128.94.27]] 10:29, 3 November 2018 (EDT)
#I loved ''Charge!'' from Wii Play. That music + Wii Sports' Main Menu Theme on this stage = WIN. --[[Special:Contributions/107.5.57.137|107.5.57.137]] 07:27, 20 August 2011 (EDT)
#I am a HUGE Mario fan, and Magicant is very... odd. Go Mushroom Kingdom! Also, the music rocks:)[[User:Super Eli|Super Eli]] ([[User talk:Super Eli|talk]]) 04:51, 6 November 2018 (EST)
#At least Pictochat isn't an eye sore, unlike Hanenbow. --[[Special:Contributions/81.155.90.230|81.155.90.230]] 10:09, 20 August 2011 (EDT)
#--[[Special:Contributions/14.199.84.205|14.199.84.205]] 09:47, 10 November 2018 (EST)
#In Hanenbow, you get distracted by trying to make the leaves red. -[[User:Ivy73|<span style="color:forestgreen">Ivy</span>]][[User talk:Ivy73|<span style="color:blue">73</span>]][[File:002MS.png]] 12:17, 20 August 2011 (EDT)
#Here I am. [[User:UltimateWoomy|UltimateWoomy]] ([[User talk:UltimateWoomy|talk]]) 22:55, 11 November 2018 (EST)
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#[[Super Mario Bros. 2]] is quite underrated so this stage is pretty cool for representing  that game, plus it’s coming back to Ultimate.[[Magicant]]’s a pretty good stage too [[Special:Contributions/174.55.24.64|174.55.24.64]] 13:44, 15 November 2018 (EST)
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#I MADE UP MY MIND! [[User:BESTIDIOTEVER|BESTIDIOTEVER]] ([[User talk: BESTIDIOTEVER|talk]]) 22:43, 25 November 2018 (EST)
#Magican't win! [[User:RK50||RK50]] ([[User talk: RK50|talk]]) 21:16, 15 December 2018 (EST)
#It's the obvious choice to go with the face of gaming's sequel! Johnson T. Shy Guy 17:36, 19 December (EDT)
#The song has been stuck in my head all day, so I can't not vote this. [[Special:Contributions/63.224.129.183|63.224.129.183]] 15:34, 23 January 2019 (EST)
#The hazards and stuff are much more creative. Are there even any in Magicant? [[Special:Contributions/KingKRool26|KingKRool26]] 8:00, 14 February 2019 (EST)
#I vote for Mushroom Kingdom II becuase overall I think it looks better as a stage then Magicant. 8:56 AM 18 February 2019 (CST)
#Mushroom Kingdom II is overall a much better stage to fight on, despite the fact it's a walk-off stage. And there's no Flying Man. 2:43 PM, 4 March 2019 (EST)
#I like Mario. And Magicant sounds too much like Magic can't. [[Special:Contributions/50.43.56.91|50.43.56.91]] 19:30, April 11, 2019 (EDT)
#''A-sla-a-sla-a-sla-tte-ry...'' When I was young, not only did I make up the aforementioned lyrics for the ''SMB2'' theme's opening notes, but I wrote an unintentional self-insert fanfic based on ''SMB2''. <span style="font-family:Mario Party 2/3 Textbox">[[User:RickTommy|<span style="color:red">Rick</span>]][[User talk:RickTommy|<span style="color:green">Tommy</span>]]</span> 01:24, April 25, 2019 (EDT)
#I love retro stages, Magicant is camping galore as well, soooooo[[User:Azantix|Azantix]] ([[User talk:Azantix|talk]]) 11:52, June 24, 2019 (EDT)
#Magicant made a level 9 Luigi look dumb.[[User:Snorlax TheGreat|Snorlax TheGreat]] ([[User talk:Snorlax TheGreat|talk]]) 08:15, July 5, 2019 (EDT)
#--[[User:Doggieboy9|Doggieboy9]] ([[User talk:Doggieboy9|talk]]) 13:08, July 5, 2019 (EDT)
#I prefer beating up Birdo over getting beat up by Chicken Man[[Special:Contributions/198.98.24.19|198.98.24.19]] 19:23, September 3, 2019 (EDT)
#I prefer Mushroom Kingdom II because I am a Mario Fan.[[User:Crocodile Dippy 2|Crocodile Dippy 2]] ([[User talk:Crocodile Dippy 2|talk]]) 14:14, September 11, 2019 (EDT)
#Jesus this hasn't been updated in a while...but yeah Magicant sucks. '''Your Senpai,''' [[User:Iron Warrior|<span style="color: red;">'''Iron'''</span>]] [[User talk:Iron Warrior|<span style="color: cyan;">'''Warrior'''</span>]] 12:13, November 20, 2019 (EST)
#everything is better than flying man lol[[User:Stelgard M|Stelgard M]] ([[User talk:Stelgard M|talk]]) 17:24, December 25, 2019 (EST)
#Clearly, Flying Man is way to OP and unfair for the others when someone grabs him. I destroyed someone much better than me using him. They should trash either him or the stage. As for Mushroom Kingdom II, I have nothing against it. [[User:Mario Kart 7 Rules|Mario Kart 7 Rules]] ([[User talk:Mario Kart 7 Rules|talk]]) 12:37, March 2, 2020 (EST)


===Half votes===
===Votes for ''Hanenbow''===
#I’m just a sucker for Mario stages. Besides, who doens’t love the feeling of extreme nostalgia. <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:MarioFighter64|MarioFighter64]] ([[User talk:MarioFighter64|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/MarioFighter64|contribs]]) 20:02, 20 August 2018 (EDT)</small>
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#I feel that it looks a lot cleaner than Magicant. It looks better. <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:Cassinator|Cassinator]] ([[User talk:Cassinator|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Cassinator|contribs]]) 20:55, 10 December 2018 (EST)</small>
#So calm here. As opposed to having spikes ravage the stage? '''''[[User:HavocReaper48|<span style="color:aqua;">Havoc</span>]][[User talk:HavocReaper48|<span style="color:midnightblue;">Reaper</span>]]''''' 21:09, 19 August 2011 (EDT)
#MKII FTW! <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:180.191.158.100|180.191.158.100]] ([[User talk:180.191.158.100|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/180.191.158.100|contribs]]) 23:54, 17 December 2018 (EST)</small>
#I'll give this one a sympathy vote. [[Special:Contributions/66.222.171.225|66.222.171.225]] 22:36, 19 August 2011 (EDT)
# Birdo is a better trophy than Flying Man in my opinion. <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:BowserIsBroken|BowserIsBroken]] ([[User talk:BowserIsBroken|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/BowserIsBroken]]) 18:58, 21 February 2019 (EST) </small>
#More visually appealing. <font face="Forte">[[User:BlindColours|<font color="#FFA500">Blin</font>]][[User talk:BlindColours|<font color="#00FFFF">dcol</font>]][[Special:Contributions/BlindColours|<font color="#00FF00">ours</font>]]</font> Game Boy[[File:Weegee_Sprite.gif|7px]] 23:25, 19 August 2011 (EDT)
#i love this stage, I think it's a very interesting idea, but mostly, I just don't like the flying man from magicant.[[User:SpiritSquirtle|SpiritSquirtle]] ([[User talk:SpiritSquirtle|talk]]) 18:36, September 22, 2019 (EDT)
#That sound effect at the beginning is some of the most joyous 12 seconds you can ever have. Plus, Hanenbow looks lovely, and I generally have a soft spot for it, being obscure, and the whole name confusion when it was first seen. Also, seeing a Lv. 9 Mario use Super Jump Punch underneath the bottom leaf, and push it upwards with the attack so he can't recover, resulting in a victory for the Lv. 1 Toon Link was a marvellous event for me. So generally, I quite like this stage, then. [[User:ToastUltimatum|<font color="darkorange">Toast</font><font color="darkbrown">Ultimatum</font>]] [[File:Swadloon Sprite.jpg|30px]][[User talk:ToastUltimatum|''<span style="color: silver;">Complaints Box</span>'']]
#MushroomKingdom Because I'ts One Of My Favorite Battle Stages, But I Have Respects To Magicant. <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:Super Kirby X|Super Kirby X]] ([[User talk:Super Kirby X|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Super Kirby X|contribs]]) 1:00 29, September 24</small>
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#Mario is my childhood. I also have never heard of magicant. <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:64.90.137.2|64.90.137.2]] ([[User talk:64.90.137.2|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/64.90.137.2|contribs]]) 14:26, October 30, 2019</small>
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#I like melee better, so Mushroom Kingdom 2 for me. [[Special:Contributions/80.155.164.74|80.155.164.74]] 04:50, September 24, 2019 (EDT) <!--Improper formatting (no #'s)-->
 
#I don't like this stage that much but I REALLY don't like Magicant so this one gets my vote. -[[User:Chiruria|'''''Chiruria!''''']] 12:52, February 21, 2020 (EST)
===Comments===
Whoa, what's with all the Hanenbow hate? It's inferior to PictoChat, sure, but it's not completely useless. If anything, its far more entertaining that Mushroomy Kingdom 1-2 or Rumble Falls. ''[[User:ReiDemon|Rei]]'''''[[User_talk:ReiDemon|Demon]]''' 22:46, 19 August 2011 (EDT)
:Dude, I'd never even HEARD of Hanenbow until Brawl. Although I do have to agree with liking it over Rumble Falls. [[User:25timmy16|<font color="aquamarine">25T16</font>]] [[File:MarioHeadSSBB.png|20px]] [[User talk:25timmy16|''<span style="color: crimson;">It's-a me!</span>'']] 23:36, 19 August 2011 (EDT)
::Also, if we're including all games, I'd still take Hanenbow over Big Blue and Brinstar Depths. And maybe Temple. ''[[User:ReiDemon|Rei]]'''''[[User_talk:ReiDemon|Demon]]''' 23:44, 19 August 2011 (EDT)
:::I don't know about Temple, but yeah, Big Blue and Brinstar are stupid ideas for a stage. [[User:25timmy16|<font color="aquamarine">25T16</font>]] [[File:MarioHeadSSBB.png|20px]] [[User talk:25timmy16|''<span style="color: crimson;">It's-a me!</span>'']] 00:24, 20 August 2011 (EDT)
:::Read rule #7 ReiDemon, you are not to argue with other users on their choices and reasoning. [[Special:Contributions/74.70.104.138|74.70.104.138]] 02:23, 20 August 2011 (EDT)
::::There's nothing that explicitly forbids him to. <sup>Smiddle&nbsp;</sup>[[User:Smiddle|君怒る]][[user talk:Smiddle|?]] 02:54, 20 August 2011 (EDT)
:::::I'm not really arguing, I'm just questioning why people hate Hanenbow so much. >_>;;; ''[[User:ReiDemon|Rei]]'''''[[User_talk:ReiDemon|Demon]]''' 10:49, 20 August 2011 (EDT)
::::::Your comment is still an argumentative comment at the opposing side. And yes it does Smiddle, there's no need for this page to be enlarged by an unneeded argument. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[Image: TyranitarMS.png ]] 10:52, 20 August 2011 (EDT)
:::::::No. When I commented it only "recommended" users not to. Secondly, I was just stating the fact that it wasn't forbidden at that time; that does not mean that I think that this page ''should'' drown in useless debates. <sup>Smiddle&nbsp;</sup>[[User:Smiddle|君怒る]][[user talk:Smiddle|?]] 11:12, 20 August 2011 (EDT)
::::::::Regardless of wording, the intent was still the same, which was to forbid users from starting arguments in the comments. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[Image: TyranitarMS.png ]] 11:16, 20 August 2011 (EDT)
:::::::::Well, if the wording and the intent do not correspond, perception of the exact intent simply is hard. <sup>Smiddle&nbsp;</sup>[[User:Smiddle|君怒る]][[user talk:Smiddle|?]] 11:26, 20 August 2011 (EDT)
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===Votes for ''Fan''===
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#I have never seen Mr. Saturn do anything before. The Fan is able to rack up 300% of damage. <span style="font-family:Forte">[[User:Megatron1|<span style="color:maroon">Mega</span>]][[User talk:Megatron1|<span style="color:silver">Tron1</span>]][[User:Megatron1/Laughology|<span style="color:blue">XD</span>]]</span>[[File:Decepticon.png|19px|:p]] 20:53, 19 August 2011 (EDT)
#Super Sudden Death, with fans only, on a flat stage with low blast lines. Total pandemonium. [[User:ReiDemon|Rei]]''[[User_talk:ReiDemon|Demon]] 20:56, 19 August 2011 (EDT)
#Fan is better. Probably because I always get it and its fun spamming the melee button!! YAY!! Mr Saturn is lame.[[User:Tjahyadi|Tjahyadi]] ([[User talk:Tjahyadi|talk]]) 21:33, 19 August 2011 (EDT)
#The fan doesn't make an annoying noise, and can actually kill. <font face="Eurostile" size="3">[[User:Blue Ninjakoopa|<span style="color:#00008B">Blue Ninjakoopa</span>]]</font><sup>([[User talk:Blue Ninjakoopa|Talk]])</sup> 21:52, 19 August 2011 (EDT)
#Never heard of a "Mr. Saturn trap." [[User:25timmy16|<font color="aquamarine">25T16</font>]] [[File:MarioHeadSSBB.png|20px]] [[User talk:25timmy16|''<span style="color: crimson;">It's-a me!</span>'']] 22:11, 19 August 2011 (EDT)
#This thing is a deadly trap! [[Special:Contributions/66.222.171.225|66.222.171.225]] 22:36, 19 August 2011 (EDT)
#The fan can actually be deadly. [[Special:Contributions/110.174.90.69|110.174.90.69]] 23:07, 19 August 2011 (EDT)
#The Fan is cheap and annoying as all heck, but at least it's useful. [[User:Hawk 21|Hawk 21]] ([[User talk:Hawk 21|talk]]) 23:22, 19 August 2011 (EDT)  
#"HA! I'm slapping you with a folded bit of paper and THERE IS NOTHING YOU CAN DO ABOUT IT!" Well, there probably is, but that's not the point. [[User:Fuddlebob|Fuddlebob]] ([[User talk:Fuddlebob|talk]]) 01:28, 20 August 2011 (EDT)
#Mr. Saturn seems useless to me. ☆<span style="font-family:Algerian">[[User:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:green">The</span>]] [[User talk:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:red">Solar</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon|<span style="color:blue">Dragon</span>]]</span>☆ 04:36, 20 August 2011 (EDT)
#I have a fan. FEAR ME. -[[User:Ivy73|<span style="color:forestgreen">Ivy</span>]][[User talk:Ivy73|<span style="color:blue">73</span>]][[File:002MS.png]] 12:17, 20 August 2011 (EDT)
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#Better music, better environment, and a better stage to fight on, honestly. [[User:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''Aidan'''</span>]], [[User talk:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''the College-Bound Rurouni'''</span>]] 11:58, 2 June 2018 (EDT)
#I feel like drinking coffee now. [[User:Mr. Anon|Mr. Anon]] ([[User talk:Mr. Anon|talk]]) 20:44, 19 August 2011 (EDT)
#[[Special:Contributions/23.17.208.28|23.17.208.28]] 00:59, 4 June 2018 (EDT)
#[[User:.....|.....]] [[User talk:.....|Smash454]] [[File:PikachuHeadSSBB.png|19px]] [[Special:Contributions/.....|My life for Aiur!]] 20:49, 19 August 2011 (EDT)
#Magicant is beautiful and way better looking --[[User:Myth|<font color="orange">'''Myth'''</font>]] [[File:Myth Kirby.png|19px|link=User talk:Myth]] 13:53, 24 June 2018 (EDT)
#Not as annoying. '''''[[User:HavocReaper48|<span style="color:aqua;">Havoc</span>]][[User talk:HavocReaper48|<span style="color:midnightblue;">Reaper</span>]]''''' 21:09, 19 August 2011 (EDT)
#I hate Magicant because whoever gets the Flying Man is pretty much guaranteed a win unless they SD several times. However I'm giving it a vote out of Pity, because I like Earthbound, and because I absolutely despise Mushroom Kingdom II. [[Special:Contributions/72.133.91.93|72.133.91.93]] 09:32, 6 June 2018 (EDT)YoshisaurusThe9th
#Am iTeM. ZoOm. [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 21:40, 19 August 2011 (EDT)
#The heck is wrong with y'all. MK2 is beat out in pretty much every department by Magicant. [[File:RagnarokSignature.png|20px|link=]] [[User:Ragnarok320|<span style="color: red;">'''Ragnarok320, The Toa of Fire''']]</span> [[User talk:Ragnarok320|<span style="color: black;">'''(talk)'''</span>]] 18:48, 5 July 2018 (EDT)
#2 words: FUZZY PICKLES! <font face="Lucida Fax">[[User:PikminBrawler|<font color="Red">Pikmin</font>]][[User talk:PikminBrawler|<font color="Blue">Brawl</font>]][[Special:Contributions/PikminBrawler|<font color="Yellow">er</font>]]</font>[[File:OlimarHeadSSBB.png|20px]] Hop! 22:15, 19 August 2011 (EDT)
#Magicant looks great, and will likely look even better in Ultimate. MKII is fine, but not nearly as good or interesting as Magicant. [[User:Kirbitzein|Kirbitzein]] ([[User talk:Kirbitzein|talk]]) 01:41, 8 July 2018 (EDT)
#DaKOta! [[User:Unknown the Hedgehog|<font color="#FF0000">Unknown </font>]] [[User talk:Unknown the Hedgehog|<font color="#780000">the </font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Unknown the Hedgehog|<font color="#000000">Hedgehog</font>]] 22:22, 19 August 2011 (EDT)
#Flying Man is more helpful when it comes to KOing opponents than Birdo's eggs. [[User:Warriorking98|Warriorking98]] 22:26, 14 July 2019 (EDT)
#Moo. [[User:Squishyfrog|<span style="color: lightseagreen;">'''Squishyfrog'''</span>]] [[User talk:Squishyfrog|''<span style="color: lightseagreen;">Chat</span>'']] 22:40, 19 August 2011 (EDT)
#I like this stage a lot. --[[Special:Contributions/142.229.115.125|142.229.115.125]] 16:41, 23 July 2018 (EDT)
#FiShInG bIrDiEs ZoOm! <font face="Forte">[[User:BlindColours|<font color="#FFA500">Blin</font>]][[User talk:BlindColours|<font color="#00FFFF">dcol</font>]][[Special:Contributions/BlindColours|<font color="#00FF00">ours</font>]]</font> Game Boy[[File:Weegee_Sprite.gif|7px]] 23:26, 19 August 2011 (EDT)
#I've never been a huge fan of retro stages. However, I am a huge fan of taking old, retro settings from games and remaking them in higher quality, and Magicant is a perfect candidate for this. It is aesthetically unique compared to almost every stage in smash with it's heavy amount of pink, and I love all of the Earthbound references. I like most of the hazards on this stage, but I understand that the flying men can be quite annoying. I can't wait to play on this stage in Ultimate, it's already looking stunning. [[User:Mudmag|Mudmag]] ([[User talk:Mudmag|talk]])
# '''''[[User:Dr. Pain 99|<font color=navy>D<font color=#190080>o<font color=#310080>c<font color=#490080>t<font color=#620080>o<font color=purple>rP</font>a</font>i</font>n</font>9</font>9</font>]]''''' <small>[[Special:Contributions/Dr. Pain 99|{ROLLBACKER}]]</small> 01:10, 20 August 2011 (EDT)
#It is so beautiful, this has good music and it is so enjoyable, and this is very rememorable to me, but the most fun part of this stage is the Flying Men. [[User:Andreepika11233|Andreepika11233]] ([[User talk:Andreepika11233|talk]]) 19:32, 9 August 2018 (EDT)
#Fan is spammy. Mr Saturn is not. z0Om! [[User:ToastUltimatum|<font color="darkorange">Toast</font><font color="darkbrown">Ultimatum</font>]] [[File:Swadloon Sprite.jpg|30px]][[User talk:ToastUltimatum|''<span style="color: silver;">Complaints Box</span>'']] 04:32, 20 August 2011 (EDT)
#A second, in my opinion poor attempt at constructing a good Mushroom Kingdom stage vs a beautiful, nostalgic stage from an equally great game. Magicant's an easy choice for me. [[User:SugarCookie420|SugarCookie420]] ([[User talk:SugarCookie420|talk]]) 08:43, 23 August 2018 (EDT)
#The Captain does not appreciate any tipe of spam (Except for taunt spamming, ofcourse) In other words, NO fan spam. [[User:Captain Falcon|<font color="#00008b">'''Captain Falcon'''</font>]] [[User talk:Captain Falcon|<font color="#00008b">(''Falcon Edit!'')</font>]] [[File:CFalconHeadSSBB.png|19px]] 06:35, 20 August 2011 (EDT)
#Honestly, I haven't played on the SMB2 stage before. However, I HAVE played on this stage multiple times and I love the brightly colored, wacky style of it and the nice calm music that plays. Plus, the Flying Men sprites are cool! [[User:Crazy456Rhino|Crazy456Rhino]] ([[User talk:Crazy456Rhino|talk]]) 12:13, 7 September 2018 (EDT)
#[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Be6kwmDvr0I This is my reason].--'''''[[User:PSIWolf|<font color=#6E0000>P</font><font color=#A50000>S</font><font color=#DC0000>I</font><font color=#FF0000>W</font><font color=#FF3700>o</font><font color=#FF6E00>lf</font>]]''''' ([[User talk:PSIWolf|<font color=#0000ff>T</font>]] • [[Special:Contributions/PSIWolf|<font color=#0000ff>C</font>]] • [[Special:Editcount/PSIWolf|<font color=#0000ff>E</font>]]) 07:22, 20 August 2011 (EDT)
#I've never actually played on Mushroom Kingdom II, but Magicant is a much better looking stage, I like its series much more, and the music is phenomenal. <b>[[User:john3637881|<span style="color: black;">John</span>]]</b> [[File:John3637881 Signature.png|20px]] <b>[[User talk:John3637881|<span style="color: red;">HUAH!</span>]]</b> 12:54, 7 September 2018 (EDT)
#Pwahh. Pwahh. --[[Special:Contributions/107.5.57.137|107.5.57.137]] 07:28, 20 August 2011 (EDT)
#Magicant wins for me hands down due to all the awesome references on this stage. Seeing the Dungeon Man and other parts of Mother 1+2 recreated in 3d is a real treat. [[User:RisingFalcon|RisingFalcon]] ([[User talk:RisingFalcon|talk]]) 19:26, 7 September 2018 (EDT)
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#Prettier and chock full of cool references. [[User:TheDavsto|TheDavsto]] ([[User talk:TheDavsto|talk]]) 10:13, 11 September 2018 (EDT)
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#Since I played for 3ds way more, I definitely would prefer this beautiful stage. [[User:Super A|Super A]] ([[User talk:Super A|talk]]) 19:37, 24 September 2018 (EDT)
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#It has a better layout, great music, and gorgeous visuals (especially in Ultimate). The Flying Men may be annoying and I love the retro aesthetic of MK2 and similar stages, but Magicant's creative design makes it more memorable to me. [[User:AquaShield11097|<span style="color: blue;">Aqua Shield</span>]] ([[User talk:AquaShield11097|''<span style="color: darkblue;">talk</span>'']]) [[File:AquaShield.png|20px]] 22:43, 2 October 2018 (EDT)
#Gorgeous map. Nice design. Will be even better in Ultimate with the option to take out the flying man. :P [[User:OctopusSandwich|OctopusSandwich]] 20:24, 14 October 2018 (EDT)
#--[[Special:Contributions/180.249.127.254|180.249.127.254]] 04:36, 4 November 2018 (EST)
#[[User:KoreanPJs|KoreanPJs]] ([[User talk:KoreanPJs|talk]]) 03:10, 7 November 2018 (EST)
#RPGs > Platformers. --[[Special:Contributions/113.212.233.12|113.212.233.12]] 06:18, 10 November 2018 (EST)
#I only have Smash for 3ds and will be getting ultimate, and I know flying man ruins the stage, but with stage hazards off, this'll be a great stage. [[User:MimoMQ|MimoMQ]] ([[User talk:MimoMQ|talk]]) 19:43, 25 November 2018 (EST)
#As a massive fan of the Mother series, this is a absolutely beautiful stage. Any mario stage (except for Ney Donk City Hall) is just to tell you how great the mario games are. (Fourside will always be the best mother stage). [[User:MasterDuelist_24|MasterDuelist_24]] ([[User talk:MasterDuelist_24|talk]]) 10:39, 31 January 2019 (EST)
#The Flying Man ruins the stage but with stage hazards off its no biggie. Mushroom Kingdom II is too small to fight on. [[User:Tyler730|Tyler730]] ([[User talk:Tyler730|talk]]) 13:05, 2 February 2019 (EST)
#One of my favorites. --[[Special:Contributions/24.146.71.225|24.146.71.225]] 18:22, 4 February 2019 (EST)
#it looks so cool man.[[User:Iamthedude|Iamthedude]] ([[User talk:Iamthedude|talk]]) 21:55, 24 February 2019 (EST)
#Magicant has godlike music and looks incredible. Makes me want an Earthbound Beginnings remake. --[[User:Plague von Karma|Plague von Karma]] ([[User talk:Plague von Karma|talk]]) 01:32, April 9, 2019 (EDT)
#Wow i never actually voted for this, anyway if this was exclusivly for the 3ds version of Magicant, then i'd say the other stage is better, but Magicant for ultimate looks so good to me it is almost no contest. Plus it isnt a walk-off <span style="background:#ea244a;border:outset #906 5px">'''[[User:Xtra3678|Xtra]][[File:Xtra_headpng.png|20px]][[User talk:Xtra3678|<span style="color:Lime">Talk</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Xtra3678|<span style="color: Gold">Edits</span>]]'''</span> 10:39, April 24, 2019 (EDT)
#I like the stage in its entirety, and Mario stages are boring. Plus, Magicant is very cute. I like the pink. [[Special:Contributions/75.86.147.26|75.86.147.26]] 07:15, May 26, 2019 (EDT)
#I think this stage looks cooler than the other. That's pretty much all. [[User:JRJ007|JRJ007]] ([[User talk:JRJ007|talk]]) 19:39, June 2, 2019 (EDT)
#The stage is cute. Plus, the Flying Man is great. [[User:LucasRules|LucasRules]] ([[User talk:LucasRules|talk]]) 17:34, June 5, 2019 (EDT)
#This one's far more creative than MK2, and the Flying Men aren't too annoying when you learn how they function. --[[User:MeatBall104|<span style="color: red">'''''Meat'''''</span>]][[User talk:MeatBall104|<span style="color: orange">'''''Ball'''''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/MeatBall104|<span style="color:Gold">'''''104'''''</span>]] [[File:MB104Pic2.jpg|20px]] 09:45, June 6, 2019 (EDT)
#Surprised this is still going on. I love both stages but I'm giving my vote to Magicant. Overall better looking stage and Ultimate's hazerdless option make it better to have a serious fight on in my (as I call it since I never played in real tournaments) pseudo tournaments, and generally I want to support the EarthBound franchise.[[User: supatoad64|<span style="color:blue;"> '''SupaToad64''' </span>]] [[ Image: MK64ToadCSP.jpg|20px ]] 02:09, June 10, 2019 (EDT)
# Two words: Walk-offs. Maybe that's one word. Whatever's the case, stages where you can walk into the blast zone are a bane for competitive and casual players alike, whether you're getting back-throwed into oblivion, or a combo brings you a little bit to far to the left while, frustratingly, you were close to 0%. [[User:Mogo|Mogo]] ([[User talk:Mogo|talk]]) 08:02, 6/10/2019 (EST)
#FLYING MAN!!!![[User:DarkNight|DarkNight]] ([[User talk:DarkNight|talk]]) 11:06, June 15, 2019 (EDT)
#It looks like pink cotton candy!!!![[Special:Contributions/71.9.47.77|71.9.47.77]] 11:30, June 15, 2019 (EDT)
#Let's just say this stage really appeals to me personally. --[[Special:Contributions/73.220.19.65|73.220.19.65]] 16:45, June 19, 2019 (EDT)
#It doesn't have a walk-off section. Better for gameplay imo. [[Special:Contributions/156.57.171.73|156.57.171.73]] 15:06, August 20, 2019 (EDT)RSdabeast
#Great music, great callbacks to MOTHER 1, and just a great stage in general. It was a bit better in Smash 4 because the memories looked cooler and flying man was stronger, but Ultimate made it bigger so it's fine. Magicant best stage.[[Special:Contributions/12.148.188.195|12.148.188.195]] 19:31, October 2, 2019 (EDT)
#Music is better, has nice throwbacks to an amazing RPG. Except Flying Man. Flying Man can die. <span style="font-family: SimHei;color: orange;background-color: green;">LegendEH Is Very [[User talk:LegendEH|Handsome]]~</span> 11:22, November 22, 2019 (EST)
#I hate walk offs. they make me sad. [[User:CMWAidanx|CMWAidanx? Yikes.]] ([[User talk:CMWAidanx|talk]]) 16:42, December 2, 2019 (EST) 16:41 EST, 12/2/2019
#As of the visual update in Ultimate, I am now much more fond of this stage. It's also more fun to play on now, especially because you can spike opponents through the clouds. ''[[User:Trainer Alex|<span style="color: blue;">'''Alex'''</span>]] the [[User talk:Trainer Alex|<span style="color: red;">'''Jigglypuff trainer'''</span>]]'' 10:10, December 22, 2019 (EST)
#Magicant is just better to fight on in my opinion. Flying Man is pretty annoying, but the reason I'm giving a full vote because it has better music, and platforms, just listening to Unfounded Revenge/Smashing song of praise while fighting as Ness/Lucas on Magicant is enough to make me feel better. [[User:Weegeegaming|'''<span style="color: green;">Weegeegaming</span>''']]|[[User talk:Weegeegaming|'''''<span style="color: red;">talk</span>''''']] 04:31, April 11, 2020 (EDT)


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#This stage is more fun in my opinion. <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:73.204.16.209|73.204.16.209]] ([[User talk:73.204.16.209|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/73.204.16.209|contribs]]) 15:45, 11 September 2018 (EDT)</small>
HavokReaper: That's the point, though! [[User:ReiDemon|Rei]]''[[User_talk:ReiDemon|Demon]] 21:12, 19 August 2011 (EDT)
#I prefer the music and the stage layout over Mushroom Kingdom II. <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:Epic Meme God|Epic Meme God]] ([[User talk:Epic Meme God|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Epic Meme God|contribs]]) 20:27, 5 February 2019 (EST)</small>
:I don't like items. If I had to choose between the two I'm with Saturn. '''''[[User:HavocReaper48|<span style="color:aqua;">Havoc</span>]][[User talk:HavocReaper48|<span style="color:midnightblue;">Reaper</span>]]''''' 21:30, 19 August 2011 (EDT)
#Mushroom Kingdom 2 is not in the Mushroom Kingdom, it's in Supcon!!! <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:LinkBoy|LinkBoy]] ([[User talk:LinkBoy|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/LinkBoy|contribs]]) 18:08, 8 March 2019 (EST)</small>
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#I am a massive fan of the Mother series, and plus this stage is beautiful. <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:Xay1494|Xay1494]] ([[User talk:Xay1494|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Xay1494|contribs]]) 20:28, 15 March 2019 (EDT)</small>
 
#Magicant also references Earthbound Zero. Its a fun stage with the Flyingmen. <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:FlaminKirb|FlaminKirb]] ([[User talk:FlaminKirb|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/FlaminKirb|contribs]]) 12:56, April 12, 2019</small>
==[[Flame]] vs. [[Electric]]==
#Magicant hazards off is pretty nice for casual doubles/free for all’s not gonna lie. <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:ThiccMan|ThiccMan]] ([[User talk:ThiccMan|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/ThiccMan|contribs]]) 08:27, 2019 April 13</small>
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#I love this stage a lot! If I am not feeling like a serious 1v1, I might do a slightly more casual free-for-all on this stage. 18:33 September 24, 2019 (EST) Kalifguest22 <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:Kalifguest22|Kalifguest22]] ([[User talk:Kalifguest22|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kalifguest22|contribs]]) 18:33 September 24, 2019 (EDT)</small>
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#FLYING BIRD MAN <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:69.5.117.14|69.5.117.14]] ([[User talk:69.5.117.14|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/69.5.117.14|contribs]]) 19:22, December 11, 2019</small>
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#Just better <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:107.77.249.24|107.77.249.24]] ([[User talk:107.77.249.24|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/107.77.249.24|contribs]]) 16:32, December 12, 2019</small>
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#As a casual smash player, this is a great stage for camping and a lot of people struggle with the bottom area.<small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:18.205.117.140|18.205.117.140]] ([[User talk:18.205.117.140|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/18.205.117.140|contribs]]) 19:24, March 19, 2020</small>
size=5>'''Winner!!'''</font><br><font size=3>'''''undecided'''''</font><br><br><font size=3>''0 to 0''</font><br>
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===Votes for ''Flame''===
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#I like fire. [[User:Mr. Anon|Mr. Anon]] ([[User talk:Mr. Anon|talk]]) 20:44, 19 August 2011 (EDT)
#BURN IN THE GROUND, BURN IN THE GROUND!!! <span style="font-family:Forte">[[User:Megatron1|<span style="color:maroon">Mega</span>]][[User talk:Megatron1|<span style="color:silver">Tron1</span>]][[User:Megatron1/Laughology|<span style="color:blue">XD</span>]]</span>[[File:Decepticon.png|19px|:p]] 20:53, 19 August 2011 (EDT)
#[[User:.....|.....]] [[User talk:.....|Smash454]] [[File:PikachuHeadSSBB.png|19px]] [[Special:Contributions/.....|My life for Aiur!]] 20:54, 19 August 2011 (EDT)
#I think I'm actually of the fire and/or anima affinity in Fire Emblem 7. [[User:ReiDemon|Rei]]''[[User_talk:ReiDemon|Demon]] 21:02, 19 August 2011 (EDT)
#Sleep Now in the Fire. '''''[[User:HavocReaper48|<span style="color:aqua;">Havoc</span>]][[User talk:HavocReaper48|<span style="color:midnightblue;">Reaper</span>]]''''' 21:09, 19 August 2011 (EDT)
#Anyone feels more powerful with fire... And that's why Charizard owns any other Pokemon. (Not in Brawl) GO CHARIZARD!! And fire...[[User:Tjahyadi|Tjahyadi]] ([[User talk:Tjahyadi|talk]]) 21:36, 19 August 2011 (EDT)
#FALCOWN... That's all ther reason needed. [[User:25timmy16|<font color="aquamarine">25T16</font>]] [[File:MarioHeadSSBB.png|20px]] [[User talk:25timmy16|''<span style="color: crimson;">It's-a me!</span>'']] 22:11, 19 August 2011 (EDT)
#Damn electric fences! You electricute my pikmin! GO FIRE! <font face="Lucida Fax">[[User:PikminBrawler|<font color="Red">Pikmin</font>]][[User talk:PikminBrawler|<font color="Blue">Brawl</font>]][[Special:Contributions/PikminBrawler|<font color="Yellow">er</font>]]</font>[[File:OlimarHeadSSBB.png|20px]] Hop! 22:18, 19 August 2011 (EDT)
#Prefer fire type attacks. [[User:Unknown the Hedgehog|<font color="#FF0000">Unknown </font>]] [[User talk:Unknown the Hedgehog|<font color="#780000">the </font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Unknown the Hedgehog|<font color="#000000">Hedgehog</font>]] 22:22, 19 August 2011 (EDT)
#The fire attacks tend to have stronger killing power than the thunder attacks. [[Special:Contributions/110.174.90.69|110.174.90.69]] 23:05, 19 August 2011 (EDT)
#Roy uses fire. Therefore, fire wins. [[User:Hawk 21|Hawk 21]] ([[User talk:Hawk 21|talk]]) 23:25, 19 August 2011 (EDT)
#F-f-fire!<font face="Forte">[[User:BlindColours|<font color="#FFA500">Blin</font>]][[User talk:BlindColours|<font color="#00FFFF">dcol</font>]][[Special:Contributions/BlindColours|<font color="#00FF00">ours</font>]]</font> Game Boy[[File:Weegee_Sprite.gif|7px]] 23:28, 19 August 2011 (EDT)
# '''''[[User:Dr. Pain 99|<font color=navy>D<font color=#190080>o<font color=#310080>c<font color=#490080>t<font color=#620080>o<font color=purple>rP</font>a</font>i</font>n</font>9</font>9</font>]]''''' <small>[[Special:Contributions/Dr. Pain 99|{ROLLBACKER}]]</small> 01:10, 20 August 2011 (EDT)
#I like fire better. ☆<span style="font-family:Algerian">[[User:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:green">The</span>]] [[User talk:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:red">Solar</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon|<span style="color:blue">Dragon</span>]]</span>☆ 04:36, 20 August 2011 (EDT)
#Falcon Punch has this effect!--'''''[[User:PSIWolf|<font color=#6E0000>P</font><font color=#A50000>S</font><font color=#DC0000>I</font><font color=#FF0000>W</font><font color=#FF3700>o</font><font color=#FF6E00>lf</font>]]''''' ([[User talk:PSIWolf|<font color=#0000ff>T</font>]] • [[Special:Contributions/PSIWolf|<font color=#0000ff>C</font>]] • [[Special:Editcount/PSIWolf|<font color=#0000ff>E</font>]]) 07:22, 20 August 2011 (EDT)
#YESH! I love Fire-type Pokemon! This reminds me of them! --[[Special:Contributions/107.5.57.137|107.5.57.137]] 07:32, 20 August 2011 (EDT)
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===Votes for ''Electric''===
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#Electric types are heavily underappreciated. [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 21:40, 19 August 2011 (EDT)
#I prefer electricity over fire. The two share a lot energy-wise, but electricity is a much rarer element. <font face="Eurostile" size="3">[[User:Blue Ninjakoopa|<span style="color:#00008B">Blue Ninjakoopa</span>]]</font><sup>([[User talk:Blue Ninjakoopa|Talk]])</sup> 21:52, 19 August 2011 (EDT)
#Electricity + Timer = LOL [[Special:Contributions/66.222.171.225|66.222.171.225]] 22:36, 19 August 2011 (EDT)
#Even though Fire will most likely win(probably because everyone will be making stupid references to fire-related things >.>), electric has cooler effects to me. [[User:Squishyfrog|<span style="color: lightseagreen;">'''Squishyfrog'''</span>]] [[User talk:Squishyfrog|''<span style="color: lightseagreen;">Chat</span>'']] 22:42, 19 August 2011 (EDT)
#PIKACHUUUUUUUUUUU [[File:Pikachu006.ogg]]--[[User:Shaun's Wiji Dodo|<span style="color: green;">'''Shaun's Wiji Dodo'''</span>]] [[User talk:Shaun's Wiji Dodo|''<span style="color: green;">talk</span>'']] [[File:Untitled-1_copy.gif‎ ]] 00:33, 20 August 2011 (EDT)
# Pikachu = Main. [[User:Fuddlebob|Fuddlebob]] ([[User talk:Fuddlebob|talk]]) 01:29, 20 August 2011 (EDT)
# High voltage, rock and roll. <sup>Smiddle&nbsp;</sup>[[User:Smiddle|君怒る]][[user talk:Smiddle|?]] 02:54, 20 August 2011 (EDT)
#Opinion - Yellow Pikmin attacks are more satisfying to me than Steve's. Also, the Knee (visually), PK Thunder... [[User:ToastUltimatum|<font color="darkorange">Toast</font><font color="darkbrown">Ultimatum</font>]] [[File:Swadloon Sprite.jpg|30px]][[User talk:ToastUltimatum|''<span style="color: silver;">Complaints Box</span>'']] 04:32, 20 August 2011 (EDT)
#Electricity is the pretty much the most awesome element in gaming (Together with ice lol).
#Without it, no electrical appliance would work. -[[User:Ivy73|<span style="color:forestgreen">Ivy</span>]][[User talk:Ivy73|<span style="color:blue">73</span>]][[File:002MS.png]] 12:17, 20 August 2011 (EDT)
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#Also, THE KNEE [[User:Captain Falcon|<font color="#00008b">'''Captain Falcon'''</font>]] [[User talk:Captain Falcon|<font color="#00008b">(''Falcon Edit!'')</font>]] [[File:CFalconHeadSSBB.png|19px]] 06:33, 20 August 2011 (EDT)
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@Hawk21: That is incorrect, Roy does not use fire.
The reason I love Mushroom Kingdom II is because of the music from ''{{s|mariowiki|Super Mario Bros 2}}''. First, you have the overworld theme during a match and when time is running out and in [[Sudden Death]], it changes to the boss battle theme! Great stage! [[User:Dragonfirebreath25|Dragonfirebreath25]] ([[User talk:Dragonfirebreath25|talk]]) 17:19, 2 June 2018 (EDT)
:Actually, Suzaku Castle in Smash 4 will do the same thing, although it has to be a specific track of music.[[Special:Contributions/72.133.91.93|72.133.91.93]] 08:09, 7 June 2018 (EDT)Blueflame105
Someone keeps deleting my vote! I keep voting the same thing on Magicant, but every time I come back to the page to look at new votes, my vote is gone! I'm not sockpuppeting, so why do my votes keep being taken off? [[Special:Contributions/72.133.91.93|72.133.91.93]] 12:00, 8 June 2018 (EDT)Blueflame105
:Apparently someone with the same IP address has already voted. That's probably why it didn't count.[[User:SugarCookie420|SugarCookie420]] ([[User talk:SugarCookie420|talk]]) 08:40, 23 August 2018 (EDT)
:Amazing stage picks for this Smash Arena
How is this still going [[User talk:RetroPika|<font color="yellow">RetroPika</font>]][[File:PikachuHeadSSB.png|17px]] 04:58, 8 January 2019 (EST)
::The wiki status is still Red, so not much attention is placed onto this. [[User:SugarCookie420|<span style="font-family:Times New Roman"><span style="color: red;">SugarCookie</span></span>]] [[User talk:SugarCookie420|<span style="font-family:Impact"><span style="color: green;">420</span></span>]] 14:54, 4 March 2019 (EST)
:::Still, these are supposed to be weekly, and it's been about 10 months. We should probably end this round at some point. <span style="color:lightblue">'''Everone123'''</span> [[File:Everone123 Sig.png|20px]] ([[User:Everone123|u]] / [[User talk:Everone123|t]] / [[Special:Contributions/Everone123|c]]) 21:50, March 15, 2019 (EDT)
::::We are in a red Wiki status which means we must focus more on main articles than the SA. We can get new rounds once the status lowers to at least a yellow. [[:User:ZeldaStarfoxfan2164{{#if:|_({{{3}}})}}|ZeldaStarfoxfan2164]] ([[User talk:ZeldaStarfoxfan2164|talk]]) is made in America  21:58, March 15, 2019 (EDT)
::::We are now in the yellow status. It's still high, but we should probably have a new arena by the end of April. [[User:X-Biaur19|X-Biaur19]] ([[User talk:X-Biaur19|talk]]) 10:10, April 25, 2019 (EDT)X-Biaur19
:::::We may be in yellow, but we are still in a very heavy yellow, which is honestly almost red, due to jokers reveal. It may seem like its unnecessary to have to wait this long but i dont think we should try to rush the admins right now. <span style="background:#ea244a;border:outset #906 5px">'''[[User:Xtra3678|Xtra]][[File:Xtra_headpng.png|20px]][[User talk:Xtra3678|<span style="color:Lime">Talk</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Xtra3678|<span style="color: Gold">Edits</span>]]'''</span> 12:29, April 25, 2019 (EDT)
::::That's fair.[[User:X-Biaur19|X-Biaur19]] ([[User talk:X-Biaur19|talk]]) 10:07, April 29, 2019 (EDT)X-Biaur19
Hasn't this match been going for more than a year now?[[User:DarkNight|DarkNight]] ([[User talk:DarkNight|talk]]) 20:55, June 16, 2019 (EDT)


I think both stages are about equal in functionality when weighing strengths and weaknesses, but Magicant wins out for me not only because it's absolutely breathtaking, especially in Ultimate, but because of the rampant references to Mother 1 and 2. As anyone who has followed my edits knows (which I expect to be a grand total of zero), origins really really matter to me, so to see a stage crafted with such love for the source material just amazes me. Mushroom Kingdom II is no slouch either, but I'd argue it's slightly worse since almost all of its assets are just straight-up taken from All-Stars while Magicant uses mostly original models and animations. Sure it also takes things directly from both of the Mother games it appears in, but uses them sparingly and mostly just for a few cool call-backs in the background. I think it says a lot when I've never been a huge Mother fan and yet the love for the series put into this stage blows me away. [[Special:Contributions/73.220.19.65|73.220.19.65]] 16:45, June 19, 2019 (EDT)
He uses "T3H PH1RE!". ''[[User:ReiDemon|Rei]]'''''[[User_talk:ReiDemon|Demon]]''' 23:28, 19 August 2011 (EDT)
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...This is going to end soon right?<span style="font-family: Algerian; font-size:12pt"> '''[[User: supatoad64|<span style="color:dodgerblue;"> Supa </span>]] [[User talk: supatoad64|<span style="color:dodgerblue;"> Toad 64 </span>]]''' </span> [[ Image: MK64ToadCSP.jpg|20px  ]] 02:17, June 22, 2019 (EDT)
==[[Super Smash Bros.]] Theme vs. [[Super Smash Bros. Melee]] Theme vs. [[Super Smash Bros. Brawl]] Theme==
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OK I think this one has had its run and we should stop it now. We may be in red but my god this just dragged on and on and on and on... [[User:Coconut2|<font color="cyan">Coconut2</font>]][[File:IsabelleHeadSSBU.png|20px]] 10:08, June 25, 2019
===Votes for ''Super Smash Bros. Theme''===
:If smash arena is supposed to have a new match weekly, this is exatly 1 year, 3 weeks, and 1 day overdue.<span style="font-family: Algerian; font-size:12pt"> '''[[User: supatoad64|<span style="color:dodgerblue;"> Supa </span>]] [[User talk: supatoad64|<span style="color:dodgerblue;"> Toad 64 </span>]]''' </span> [[ Image: MK64ToadCSP.jpg|20px  ]] 20:35, July 1, 2019 (EDT)
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OK END THIS ALREADY THIS IS ALREADY TOO MUCH TIME OR HELL EVEN CANCEL SMASH ARENA ENTIRELY, I DON'T CARE, JUST END IT. [[User:Coconut2|<font color="cyan">Coconut2</font>]][[File:IsabelleHeadSSBU.png|20px]] 21:21, July 17, 2019
#Nothing beats the original! SOOPAH! SMAAAAAAAAAAAASH BRUTHUUUUUURRRRRRRRRZZZZZ!!! [[User:Anthony1996|Anthony1996]] ([[User talk:Anthony1996|talk]]) 20:45, 19 August 2011 (EDT)
:First, calm down, it's not like this will go on for another millennium again. Second I will contact the admin team regarding when this will end.<span style="font-family: Algerian; font-size:12pt"> '''[[User: supatoad64|<span style="color:dodgerblue;"> Supa </span>]] [[User talk: supatoad64|<span style="color:dodgerblue;"> Toad 64 </span>]]''' </span> [[ Image: MK64ToadCSP.jpg|20px  ]] 05:43, July 19, 2019 (EDT)
#I have all three on my iPod, but this one is a lot more intense and in turn is more enjoyable. <font face="Eurostile" size="3">[[User:Blue Ninjakoopa|<span style="color:#00008B">Blue Ninjakoopa</span>]]</font><sup>([[User talk:Blue Ninjakoopa|Talk]])</sup> 21:52, 19 August 2011 (EDT)
When will we get a new Smash Arena? [[Special:Contributions/174.55.24.64|174.55.24.64]] 17:52, September 4, 2019 (EDT)
#Classic. [[User:.....|.....]] [[User talk:.....|Smash454]] [[File:PikachuHeadSSBB.png|19px]] [[Special:Contributions/.....|My life for Aiur!]] 23:01, 19 August 2011 (EDT)
#SUPA SMMAAASSHH BBBRRROOOTTTHHHEEERRRSS!!<font face="Forte">[[User:BlindColours|<font color="#FFA500">Blin</font>]][[User talk:BlindColours|<font color="#00FFFF">dcol</font>]][[Special:Contributions/BlindColours|<font color="#00FF00">ours</font>]]</font> Game Boy[[File:Weegee_Sprite.gif|7px]] 23:29, 19 August 2011 (EDT)
#I've heard the other two one time too many. The menu should be able to have any song in the game play on it, not just main themes and variations. [[User:ToastUltimatum|<font color="darkorange">Toast</font><font color="darkbrown">Ultimatum</font>]] [[File:Swadloon Sprite.jpg|30px]][[User talk:ToastUltimatum|''<span style="color: silver;">Complaints Box</span>'']] 04:32, 20 August 2011 (EDT)
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Just gonna put it here, do not comment on when we are getting another Smash Arena. The admins will get to it when they get to it, and asking again and again will get you nowhere. [[User:Cookies and Creme|<span style="font-family: Georgia;color: black;">Cookies</span>]][[File:CnC Signature.png|20px]][[User talk:Cookies and Creme|<span style="font-family: Georgia; color: black;">Creme</span>]] 18:39, September 22, 2019 (EDT)
===Votes for ''Super Smash Bros. Melee Theme''===
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#Imagine you're a seven to eight year old kid. You turn on the GameCube for the first time, and this is the first thing you hea and see. That kid is me. ''Melee'' is still king in nostalgia for me. [[User:ReiDemon|Rei]]''[[User_talk:ReiDemon|Demon]] 20:56, 19 August 2011 (EDT)
#That solo with Sheik is timeless. '''''[[User:HavocReaper48|<span style="color:aqua;">Havoc</span>]][[User talk:HavocReaper48|<span style="color:midnightblue;">Reaper</span>]]''''' 21:09, 19 August 2011 (EDT)
#This. [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 21:40, 19 August 2011 (EDT)
#LOVE the very beginning of it, when Mario is being animated. [[User:25timmy16|<font color="aquamarine">25T16</font>]] [[File:MarioHeadSSBB.png|20px]] [[User talk:25timmy16|''<span style="color: crimson;">It's-a me!</span>'']] 22:12, 19 August 2011 (EDT)
#Kind of like what ReiDemon said, except this wasn't my first Gamecube game. [[User:Unknown the Hedgehog|<font color="#FF0000">Unknown </font>]] [[User talk:Unknown the Hedgehog|<font color="#780000">the </font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Unknown the Hedgehog|<font color="#000000">Hedgehog</font>]] 22:22, 19 August 2011 (EDT)
#Most epic theme of the three games by far. [[Special:Contributions/110.174.90.69|110.174.90.69]] 23:04, 19 August 2011 (EDT)
#yesz <sup>Smiddle&nbsp;</sup>[[User:Smiddle|君怒る]][[user talk:Smiddle|?]] 02:54, 20 August 2011 (EDT)
#Best of the 3 themes. No doubt. [[User:Captain Falcon|<font color="#00008b">'''Captain Falcon'''</font>]] [[User talk:Captain Falcon|<font color="#00008b">(''Falcon Edit!'')</font>]] [[File:CFalconHeadSSBB.png|19px]] 06:30, 20 August 2011 (EDT)
#So awesome.--'''''[[User:PSIWolf|<font color=#6E0000>P</font><font color=#A50000>S</font><font color=#DC0000>I</font><font color=#FF0000>W</font><font color=#FF3700>o</font><font color=#FF6E00>lf</font>]]''''' ([[User talk:PSIWolf|<font color=#0000ff>T</font>]] • [[Special:Contributions/PSIWolf|<font color=#0000ff>C</font>]] • [[Special:Editcount/PSIWolf|<font color=#0000ff>E</font>]]) 07:22, 20 August 2011 (EDT)
#I've never heard SSB's theme, and I like SSBM's music over Brawl's (except for the 2nd theme) --[[Special:Contributions/107.5.57.137|107.5.57.137]] 07:30, 20 August 2011 (EDT)
#Hear when I turn on Melee, hear it when I turn on Brawl, never gets old.-[[User:Ivy73|<span style="color:forestgreen">Ivy</span>]][[User talk:Ivy73|<span style="color:blue">73</span>]][[File:002MS.png]] 12:17, 20 August 2011 (EDT)
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Ok, so when’s the new Smash Arena coming? Genuine confusion. <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:TCBlitz|TCBlitz]] ([[User talk:TCBlitz|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/TCBlitz|contribs]]) 22:13, November 12, 2019</small>
===Votes for ''Super Smash Bros. Brawl Theme''===
:Read what I said above. [[User:Cookies and Creme|<span style="font-family: Georgia;color: black;">Cookies</span>]][[File:CnC Signature.png|20px]][[User talk:Cookies and Creme|<span style="font-family: Georgia; color: black;">Creme</span>]] 19:11, December 9, 2019 (EST)
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Uhhh... how long has this been on? I just made my account in March and, judging by your comments, it's been like, two years. [[User:Weegeegaming|'''<span style="color: green;">Weegeegaming</span>''']]|[[User talk:Weegeegaming|'''''<span style="color: red;">talk</span>''''']] 04:37, April 11, 2020 (EDT)
#Brawl's opening is so epic. [[User:Mr. Anon|Mr. Anon]] ([[User talk:Mr. Anon|talk]]) 20:45, 19 August 2011 (EDT)
#I just think Brawl works. The music, the attacks, the game play is better than any Wii game and SSB game. BRAWL FTW!![[User:Tjahyadi|Tjahyadi]] ([[User talk:Tjahyadi|talk]]) 21:40, 19 August 2011 (EDT)
#This song just has so much depth... It's beautiful. ;__; [[User:Squishyfrog|<span style="color: lightseagreen;">'''Squishyfrog'''</span>]] [[User talk:Squishyfrog|''<span style="color: lightseagreen;">Chat</span>'']] 22:44, 19 August 2011 (EDT)
#It's absolutely gorgeous. [[User:Hawk 21|Hawk 21]] ([[User talk:Hawk 21|talk]]) 23:27, 19 August 2011 (EDT)
#[[Special:Contributions/66.222.171.225|66.222.171.225]] 00:02, 20 August 2011 (EDT)
# '''''[[User:Dr. Pain 99|<font color=navy>D<font color=#190080>o<font color=#310080>c<font color=#490080>t<font color=#620080>o<font color=purple>rP</font>a</font>i</font>n</font>9</font>9</font>]]''''' <small>[[Special:Contributions/Dr. Pain 99|{ROLLBACKER}]]</small> 01:10, 20 August 2011 (EDT)
#LYRICS! IN LATIN!! Audi famam Illius, cucurrit queque tetegit destruens... [[User:Fuddlebob|Fuddlebob]] ([[User talk:Fuddlebob|talk]]) 01:31, 20 August 2011 (EDT)
#The song has probably became one of my favourite game theme tunes. ☆<span style="font-family:Algerian">[[User:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:green">The</span>]] [[User talk:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:red">Solar</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon|<span style="color:blue">Dragon</span>]]</span>☆ 04:36, 20 August 2011 (EDT)
#I still think having lyrics in Latin was a great idea. It's also fun to try and make-up the lyrics too. --[[Special:Contributions/81.155.90.230|81.155.90.230]] 10:14, 20 August 2011 (EDT)
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:Smash Arena is not a priority as of right now. The admins will make a new one eventually, not yet just. [[Image:001Toad.jpg|20px]] <span style="font-family:Algerian">'''[[User:OmegaToad64|<font color="blue">OmegαToαd</font> <font color="aqua">the Toαd Wαrrior</font>]] [[User talk:OmegaToad64|<font color="springgreen">(BUP)</font></span>]]''' 04:40, April 11, 2020 (EDT)
===Comments===
::If you want, you can join our Discord. We have an active Smash Arena there. [[User:Cookies and Creme|<span style="font-family: Georgia;color: black;">Cookies</span>]][[File:CnC Signature.png|20px]][[User talk:Cookies and Creme|<span style="font-family: Georgia; color: black;">Creme</span>]] 17:49, April 13, 2020 (EDT)
Is it just me, or is it really hard to read the votes for Brawl? Maybe someone should consider changing the font colour or something... [[User:Fuddlebob|Fuddlebob]] ([[User talk:Fuddlebob|talk]]) 01:32, 20 August 2011 (EDT)
 
:It's fine when I see it. --[[Special:Contributions/107.5.57.137|107.5.57.137]] 07:30, 20 August 2011 (EDT)
Huh, I guess that's the end of Smash Arena. I stopped following it a few years back. RIP. --[[User:Meester Tweester|Meester Tweester]] ([[User talk:Meester Tweester|talk]]) 00:15, April 16, 2020 (EDT)
::Smash Arena is on Discord now, the SA tab links to its page. [[:User:ZeldaStarfoxfan2164{{#if:|_({{{3}}})}}|ZeldaStarfoxfan2164]] ([[User talk:ZeldaStarfoxfan2164|talk]]) is a never lover boy  23:21, April 23, 2020 (EDT)
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==Round 256: [[Sheik]] vs. [[Greninja]]==
==Round 99: [[Marth]] vs. [[Olimar]]==
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===Votes for ''Marth''===
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#Marth, Marth, Marth! [[Special:Contributions/66.222.171.225|66.222.171.225]] 19:34, 12 August 2011 (EDT)
#DIVINE FINISH!!!--[[User:Shaun's Wiji Dodo|<span style="color: green;">'''Shaun's Wiji Dodo'''</span>]] [[User talk:Shaun's Wiji Dodo|''<span style="color: green;">talk</span>'']] [[File:Untitled-1_copy.gif‎ ]] 19:43, 12 August 2011 (EDT)
#Marth has that fair, possibly the most complete attack in Smash. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[Image: TyranitarMS.png ]] 19:47, 12 August 2011 (EDT)
# Martha doesn't toss people. '''''[[User:HavocReaper48|<span style="color:aqua;">Havoc</span>]][[User talk:HavocReaper48|<span style="color:midnightblue;">Reaper</span>]]''''' 19:48, 12 August 2011 (EDT)
# Tough call, but Marth. Partially because of [http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/5599/1209795805897yd1.jpg this image]. [[User:ReiDemon|Rei]]''[[User_talk:ReiDemon|Demon]] 19:56, 12 August 2011 (EDT)
#I feel more comfortable playing with Marth than Olimar. Then again, I never really used Olimar all that much, since I don't like his playstyle. [[User:Dornob|Dornob]] ([[User talk:Dornob|talk]]) 20:17, 12 August 2011 (EDT)
#I'll vote Martha because her recovery is better, she has that [[Counter]], and she also has a much larger army than Captain Olimar...most of which are probably rabid fangirls. [[User:Hawk 21|Hawk 21]] ([[User talk:Hawk 21|talk]]) 20:53, 12 August 2011 (EDT)
#Anyone who does not know why I voted Marth either does not know me or is retarded. '''''[[User:Dr. Pain 99|<font color=navy>D<font color=#190080>o<font color=#310080>c<font color=#490080>t<font color=#620080>o<font color=purple>rP</font>a</font>i</font>n</font>9</font>9</font>]]''''' <small>[[Special:Contributions/Dr. Pain 99|{ROLLBACKER}]]</small> 21:46, 12 August 2011 (EDT)
#Just saying in round 75. [[User:.....|.....]] [[User talk:.....|I'll take a that hot dog]] [[File:PikachuHeadSSBB.png|19px]] [[Special:Contributions/.....|Super]] 23:14, 12 August 2011 (EDT)
#Because Olimar is useless without his Pikmin. [[User:Mastersword|Mastersword]] ([[User talk:Mastersword|talk]]) 05:49, 13 August 2011 (EDT)
#Olimar throw all of his Pikmins! Marth use Dancing Blade! Marth fried the sliced Pikmins! Marth give the Fried Pikmins to Olimar. Olimar eats it and thinks this is good! Marth told Olimar that the Fried Pikmins costs $4500,00! Olimar got a heart attack! Olimar died! Marth wins! '''FATALITY''' [[Special:Contributions/206.53.148.144|206.53.148.144]] 05:55, 13 August 2011 (EDT)
#Marth is just plain awesome.--'''''<span style="font-family:Arial">[[User:PSIWolf|<span style="color:gold">P</span><span style="color:orange">S</span><span style="color:red">I</span><span style="color:#333333">Wolf</span>]]''''' ([[User talk:PSIWolf|<span style="color:blue">T</span>]] • [[Special:Contributions/PSIWolf|<span style="color:blue">C</span>]] • [[Special:Editcount/PSIWolf|<span style="color:blue">E</span>]])</span> 06:10, 13 August 2011 (EDT)
#I played Fire Emblem Shadow Dragon. I have never played Pikmin before in my life. [[Special:Contributions/68.174.11.29|68.174.11.29]] 09:35, 13 August 2011 (EDT)
# Critical hit!! Mwahahahaha!!!! --[[Special:Contributions/85.64.224.247|85.64.224.247]] 13:33, 13 August 2011 (EDT)
#A swordsman versus a tiny person who throws living vegetables. I know who is the best. ☆<span style="font-family:Algerian">[[User:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:green">The</span>]] [[User talk:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:red">Solar</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon|<span style="color:blue">Dragon</span>]]</span>☆ 03:37, 14 August 2011 (EDT)
#You know when you're manly when you can kick butt when everyone thinks you're a girl :P [[User:Captain Falcon|<font color="#00008b">'''Captain Falcon'''</font>]] [[User talk:Captain Falcon|<font color="#00008b">(''Falcon Edit!'')</font>]] [[File:CFalconHeadSSBB.png|19px]] 07:02, 15 August 2011 (EDT)
#I main Marth in Melee. [[User:Mr. Anon|Mr. Anon]] ([[User talk:Mr. Anon|talk]]) 15:31, 15 August 2011 (EDT)
#...Idk what to say, go read someone else's comments. -[[User:Ivy73|<span style="color:forestgreen">Ivy</span>]][[User talk:Ivy73|<span style="color:blue">73</span>]][[File:002MS.png]] 20:17, 15 August 2011 (EDT)
#Marth is better than olimar. + he's 1 of my best [[User:Cherrim98|Cherrim98]] ([[User talk:Cherrim98|talk]]) 20:52, 15 August 2011 (EDT)
#Marth, Marth, Marth! (clap) [[User:Jacobdf11|- Jacobdf11 Ganon ftw]] ([[User talk:Jacobdf11|talk]]) 09:03, 16 August 2011 (EDT)
#I highly respect Marth, considering how he raised his kingdom TWICE (Or so, I remember). Quite the guy.<span style="font-family:Jokerman">[[User:Vincent Tran|<span style="color:Salmon">Vincent</span>]] [[User talk:Vincent Tran|<span style="color:red">Tran</span>]] <span style="color:Orange">Get ready for school ^_^ </span> </span>[[File:Kirby-1.png|30px]] 15:19, 18 August 2011 (EDT)


#Hmm some weird frog thing or a ninja of royalty? <span style="font-family:Algerian;font-size:10pt;background:#000;border:outset #083 2px;padding:1px">'''[[User:Serpent King|<span style="color:#083">Serpent</span>]] [[File:SKSig.png|12px|link=]] [[User talk:Serpent King|<span style="color:#ed0">King</span>]]'''</span> 00:44, 16 December 2017 (EST)
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#Yeah Sheik is 10x more fun to play at high level, and way more interesting to watch than Greninja most of the time. <span style="color:Green;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px skyblue">'''--'''</span>[[User:Penro|<span style="color:Red; text-shadow: 0px 0px 3px red">'''Pen'''</span>]][[User talk:Penro|<span style="color:Black; text-shadow: 0px 0px 3px black">'''ro'''</span>]] 08:41, 19 December 2017 (EST)
#Marth  Cw11cw 06:36, 13 August 2011 (EDT) {{unsigned|Cw11cw|06:36, 13 August 2011 (EDT)}}
#Fun fact: when I was in primary school, I once wore a similar disguise and was known as Sheik for that day. <span style="font-family:Mario Party 2/3 Textbox">[[User:RickTommy|<span style="color:red">Rick</span>]][[User talk:RickTommy|<span style="color:green">Tommy</span>]]</span> 22:27, 11 January 2018 (EST)
#Sheik has a grenade, martial arts training, needles, and exploding walnuts. Greninja has a long-ass tongue, a log, and a crappy doll. Who would you choose? [[User:Iron Gladiator|Iron Reggie, Master of Memes]] ([[User talk:Iron Gladiator|talk]]) 02:04, 28 January 2018 (EST)
#I like both of them but I like Sheik more cuz top tier [[User:SmileFtw123|SmileFtw123]] ([[User talk:SmileFtw123|talk]]) 03:05, 30 January 2018 (EST)
#I think I prefer Sheik a little bit more, so I guess I'll place my vote here.--[[Special:Contributions/192.197.128.21|192.197.128.21]] 13:16, 2 February 2018 (EST)
#I prefer Sheik's aesthetic design, and Greninja isn't a very good starter in my opinion. Neither is great to me, but I prefer Sheik. --[[User:UnbeatableSith|UnbeatableSith]] ([[User talk:UnbeatableSith|talk]]) 21:41, 16 March 2018 (EDT)
# [[Special:Contributions/174.53.1.71|174.53.1.71]] 10:57, 5 February 2018 (EST)
#She has a chain. [[User:Pokebub|Pokebub]] ([[User talk:Pokebub|talk]]) 22:43, 16 March 2018 (EDT)
#I can't stand fighting against Greninja, and Sheik was one of my mains in Brawl. Also, I feel like she has a higher chance of making it into Smash 5. [[User:TheNuttyOne|TheNuttyOne]] 15:58, 11 April 2018 (EDT)


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#Shiek is better <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:24.234.62.218 |24.234.62.218 ]] ([[User talk:24.234.62.218 |talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/24.234.62.218 |contribs]]) 23:22, 11 December 2017 (EST)</small>
#very good at aerial combos# <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:73.222.194.39|73.222.194.39]] ([[User talk:73.222.194.39|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/73.222.194.39|contribs]]) 03:46, 9 January 2018</small>
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#I find Sheik's playstyle in SSB4 to be quite aggravating to play as or against. Greninja's not so frustrating. [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Verdana;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 01:32, 11 December 2017 (EST)
#Both are fun characters, but Olimar has the reliability and variety. Plus, if you can pluck 3+ Purples, there will be mayhem! [[User:ToastUltimatum|<font color="darkorange">Toast</font><font color="darkbrown">Ultimatum</font>]] [[File:OlimarHeadSSBB.png|25px]][[User talk:ToastUltimatum|''<span style="color: silver;">Complaints Box</span>'']] 19:41, 12 August 2011 (EDT)
#Us Pokémon gotta stick together I guess. ''[[User:Alex Parpotta|<span style="color: blue;">'''Alex Parpotta'''</span>]] the [[User talk:Alex Parpotta|<span style="color: red;">'''flying lobster!'''</span>]]'' 04:54, 11 December 2017 (EST)
#Marth is better, but I feel like picking the likely loser. <font face="Forte">[[User:BlindColours|<font color="#FFA500">Blin</font>]][[User talk:BlindColours|<font color="#00FFFF">dcol</font>]][[Special:Contributions/BlindColours|<font color="#00FF00">ours</font>]]</font> ''The Insomniac'' 19:53, 12 August 2011 (EDT)
#I like ''Pokémon'' more, Greninja has appeared in more than just one canon game (discounting remakes), and its playstyle in ''Smash'' is far more interesting to watch. [[File:034.png|20px]] '''<span style="font-family:Algerian">[[User:DracoRexKing|<font color="red">DracoRex,]]</font> [[User talk:DracoRexKing|<font color="olive">Creator of the Land]]</font></span>''' 07:45, 11 December 2017 (EST)
#I just hate Marth. '''Period!''' --[[Special:Contributions/107.5.57.137|107.5.57.137]] 19:57, 12 August 2011 (EDT)
#Greninja is a great Pokémon and he did appear in Sun and Moon as a present. Greninja's playstyle in ''Smash 4'' is... awesome! [[User:Dragonfirebreath25|Dragonfirebreath25]] ([[User talk:Dragonfirebreath25|talk]]) 09:33, 13 December 2017 (EST)
#While Marth is cooler and is undoubtedly a better character, I use and like Olimar much more as a character in ''Brawl'', so my vote goes to him, not her. [[User:Squishyfrog|<span style="color: lightseagreen;">'''Squishyfrog'''</span>]] [[User talk:Squishyfrog|''<span style="color: lightseagreen;">Chat</span>'']] 20:13, 12 August 2011 (EDT)
#R.I.P Sheik after Melee. The Smash 4 Sheik combo game is nothing like its predecessor. also I love the hydro pump jank [[User:Lasagna|lasagna B)]] ([[User talk:Lasagna|talk]]) 10:27, 13 December 2017 (EST)
#Silence is golden[[User:Lucasthefourth|<span style="color:red">>_>'''Lucas'''</span>]][[User talk:Lucasthefourth|'''-IV-''']] [[Special:Contributions/Lucasthefourth|'''OH MY PORK!''']][[Image:Lucas alive.PNG|25px]] 22:12, 12 August 2011 (EDT)
#In Smash 5 Greninja's Final Smash should be Ash-Greninja. [[Special:Contributions/24.52.19.237|24.52.19.237]] 19:50, 15 December 2017 (EST)
#Pikmin is an amazing game. <font face="Eurostile" size="3">[[User:Blue Ninjakoopa|<span style="color:#00008B">Blue Ninjakoopa</span>]]</font><sup>([[User talk:Blue Ninjakoopa|Talk]])</sup> 23:10, 12 August 2011 (EDT)
#Better nerf Greninja <span style="font-family:AR JULIAN; font-size:12pt">[[User:ChuckNorris24|<span style="color:red">Chuck</span>]][[User talk:ChuckNorris24|<span style="color:green">Norris</span>]]</span>[[File:24.png|23px]]  23:10, 15 December 2017 (EST)
#Marth is possibly one of my most hated characters and I prefer Pikmin over Marth's games in the Fire Emblem series. [[Special:Contributions/110.174.90.69|110.174.90.69]] 23:29, 12 August 2011 (EDT)
#{{Sm|iStudying}}. Nuff said. [[User:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: red;">'''Aidan'''</span>]], [[User talk:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: green;">'''the Festive Rurouni'''</span>]] 20:52, 18 December 2017 (EST)
#Olimar's juggling ability really helps. White Pikmin + Skill = Up to 300% DAMAGE! <font face="Lucida Fax">[[User:PikminBrawler|<font color="Red">Pikmin</font>]][[User talk:PikminBrawler|<font color="Blue">Brawl</font>]][[Special:Contributions/PikminBrawler|<font color="Yellow">er</font>]]</font>[[File:OlimarHeadSSBB.png|20px]] Hop! 00:05, 13 August 2011 (EDT)
#--[[Special:Contributions/23.17.208.28|23.17.208.28]] 01:46, 24 January 2018 (EST)
#BULBMIN!!!! WATERWRAITH!!!! Even thought they aren't in Brawl, I still like Olimar over Marth. Marth looks like a girl. [[User:25timmy16|<font color="aquamarine">25T16</font>]] [[File:MarioHeadSSBB.png|20px]] [[User talk:25timmy16|''<span style="color: crimson;">It's-a me!</span>'']] 00:12, 13 August 2011 (EDT)
#Greninja is just the character I think is cooler (although ANY ninja gets cool points). I do hope they change his final smash, however, if he's gonna be in Smash 5 [[User:Crazy456Rhino|Crazy456Rhino]] ([[User talk:Crazy456Rhino|talk]]) 12:02, 9 March 2018 (EST)
#The man that proved that vegetables can be hardcore fighters. <sup>Smiddle&nbsp;</sup>[[User:Smiddle|君怒る]][[user talk:Smiddle|?]] 06:42, 13 August 2011 (EDT)
#I love Greninja so much. He's the best of my four mains, and I hope he's in Smash 5! [[User:Capnap64|Capnap64]] ([[User talk:Capnap64|talk]]) 09:33, 4 April 2018 (EDT)
#I like Fire Emblem better then Pikmin, but I don't like Marth. So on this occasion, my vote goes to Olimar. --[[Special:Contributions/81.158.119.48|81.158.119.48]] 08:11, 13 August 2011 (EDT)
#Greninja is fun. Sheik is not. Sheik is aggravating, both to play as and against. Greninja is not. Greninja is a hecking awesome ninja that can literally make shurikens out of water! Sheik just throws needles at people and plays a harp. Enough said. [[Special:Contributions/72.133.91.93|72.133.91.93]] 08:05, 10 May 2018 (EDT) Blueflame105
#I definitely use Olimar more, mainly because of how unconventional of a fighter he is. He doesn't use a sword, he uses Pikmin. :D [[Special:Contributions/67.173.145.76|67.173.145.76]] 11:34, 13 August 2011 (EDT)
#It's such a pain to sweetspot most of Marth's attacks; when it comes to Pikmin and Olimar, I don't have to deal with this discrepancy as much. [[User:Dark Mai Valentine|Dark Mai Valentine]] ([[User talk:Dark Mai Valentine|talk]]) 14:55, 13 August 2011 (EDT)
#Purple Pikmin:"Hey, everyone. I'm wearin' a diaper!" [[User:Fib12|<font
color="yellow">Fib12</font>]] [[Image:ZekromMS.png ]] [[User:Fib12|Fib12]] ([[User talk:Fib12|talk]])
#Pikmin all the way! I love those games. --[[Special:Contributions/174.59.4.202|174.59.4.202]] 18:42, 14 August 2011 (EDT)
#[[User:JamesHeart123|James&lt;3]] ([[User talk:JamesHeart123|talk]]) 11:20, 15 August 2011 (EDT)
 
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#Since I'm not familiar with Fire Emblem, I'll go for Olimar. Plus, the games (especially Pikmin 2 - MULTIPLAYAH!) are really fun!!! [[User:Heptowak|Heptowak]][[User talk:Heptowak|(talk)]][[File:Heptowak.png|14px]] Click My Picture! 21:53, 12 August 2011 (EDT)
# Steve The Trooper is in Brawl!!! Go Olimar! <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:76.180.167.205|76.180.167.205]] ([[User talk:76.180.167.205|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/76.180.167.205|contribs]]) 22:02, 13 August 2011</small>
#I love Olimar! He's my favorite Brawl character, alongside Lucas. He's also my second favorite video game character of all time, behind Toad/Toadette. Oli FTW! <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:68.227.228.211|68.227.228.211]] ([[User talk:68.227.228.211|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/68.227.228.211|contribs]]) 13:20, 19 August 2011 (EDT)</small>
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@Havoc: Olimar doesn't toss people, he tosses [[Pikmin]]. --[[Special:Contributions/107.5.57.137|107.5.57.137]] 19:58, 12 August 2011 (EDT)
Shouldn't this match have been decided, like, several weeks ago? [[User:Iron Warrior|<span style="color: red;">'''Iron Reggie,'''</span>]] [[User talk:Iron Warrior|<span style="color: cyan;">'''Master of Memes'''</span>]] 10:31, 26 February 2018 (EST)
:Havoc may have meant his Up-Smash juggling capabilities. [[User:ToastUltimatum|<font color="darkorange">Toast</font><font color="darkbrown">Ultimatum</font>]] [[File:OlimarHeadSSBB.png|25px]][[User talk:ToastUltimatum|''<span style="color: silver;">Complaints Box</span>'']] 20:04, 12 August 2011 (EDT)
::Still, it ain't people. --[[Special:Contributions/107.5.57.137|107.5.57.137]] 15:45, 13 August 2011 (EDT)
Olimar has a good f-air too! [[User:ToastUltimatum|<font color="darkorange">Toast</font><font color="darkbrown">Ultimatum</font>]] [[File:OlimarHeadSSBB.png|25px]][[User talk:ToastUltimatum|''<span style="color: silver;">Complaints Box</span>'']] 20:04, 12 August 2011 (EDT)


This js still going? Currently Sheik 11, Greninja 12. [[User:SmileFtw123]] [[User talk:SmileFtw123]]
@Hawk 21 LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL [[User:25timmy16|<font color="aquamarine">25T16</font>]] [[File:MarioHeadSSBB.png|20px]] [[User talk:25timmy16|''<span style="color: crimson;">It's-a me!</span>'']] 00:14, 13 August 2011 (EDT)
Smileftw the tier list dose not matter im a dedede and jiggly main


Seriously, this should have happened months ago! Who's in charge of Smash Arena anyway? Blueflame105
What happened to my sig? [[User:25timmy16|<font color="aquamarine">25T16</font>]] [[File:MarioHeadSSBB.png|20px]] [[User talk:25timmy16|''<span style="color: crimson;">It's-a me!</span>'']] 17:33, 13 August 2011 (EDT)
:Someone accidentaly deleted part of it. Fixed. [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[Image:Toomai.png|20px|link=User:Toomai/Bin|???]] The Eggster 22:32, 13 August 2011 (EDT)


Ay, they did change his final smash for Smash 5. Nice. [[User:Crazy456Rhino|Crazy456Rhino]] ([[User talk:Crazy456Rhino|talk]]) 15:18, November 5, 2019 (EST)
Lol at the comments that refer to Marth as a girl. I thought he was too for a while. --[[Special:Contributions/174.59.4.202|174.59.4.202]] 18:48, 14 August 2011 (EDT)
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I'm not familiar with Marth's games, so can someone educate me on the similarities between Marth and Olimar? [[User:Mr. Anon|Mr. Anon]] ([[User talk:Mr. Anon|talk]]) 16:02, 18 August 2011 (EDT)
:The general idea for this battle is that both command large armies; in the ''Fire Emblem'' series, Marth ends up with a large army of followers whom he has recruited, and they fight alongside him, while Olimar can have tens of Pikmin following him, helping him out.
 
:That said, I highly recommend you play a ''Fire Emblem'' game. They're really deep and entertaining. [[User:ReiDemon|Rei]]''[[User_talk:ReiDemon|Demon]]'' 16:58, 18 August 2011 (EDT)
Um, someone put their vote on the top '''''AND''''' forgot their sig. Someone should put it in the half votes. <small><small><small><small><small><small>I was going to do it, but I'd better not.</small></small></small></small></small></small> --[[Special:Contributions/107.5.57.137|107.5.57.137]] 14:34, 19 August 2011 (EDT)
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