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{{Forumheader|Smash Arena}}


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Ladies and gentlemen, welcome, editors and users, to the '''[[SmashWiki:Smash Arena|Smash Arena]]'''! Each week (or possibly less often, if the [[SW:SSS|wiki's status]] is high or there's not much voter traffic) this forum hosts a tussle between two (or  sometimes three!) characters, items, stages or anything else from the [[Super Smash Bros. (series)|''Super Smash Bros.'' series]]! The winner gets, well, nothing. It's more of a poll but functionally, this is a popularity contest. You may vote for your favorite or who you think would win in a competition between the two combatants that round. No, you don't have to vote for the character with strength & power, or the stage considered more "fair", or the combatant with the most fans - just vote if you are a total fanboy of the participant. So what are you waiting for? Get voting!
Ladies and Gentlemen, welcome, editors and users, to the '''Smash Arena'''! Each week this forum hosts a tussle between two characters from the ''[[Super Smash Bros. (series)|Super Smash Bros.]]'' series! The winner gets, well, nothing. It's more of a poll but functionally, this is a popularity contest. You may vote for your favorite or who you think would win in an competition between the two combatants that round. No, you don't have to vote for the character with strength & power, just vote if you are a total fanboy of the character. So what are you waiting for? Get voting! Remember, you can remain anonymous! If you have any requests for future fights, please feel free to leave a message [[Forum:Suggestions|here]].


==The Rules==
==The Rules==
#When voting, you can give a brief comment on why you voted the way you did, or you can just leave your signature. Long explanations for your vote are discouraged, as they are unnecessary (a vote is worth the same regardless of its reasoning), and they inflate the size of an already large page.
#When voting, you can give a brief comment on why you voted the way you did, or you can just leave your signature.
#You can vote only once. Any multiple votes will be removed.
#You can only vote once. Any multiple votes will be removed.
#Put a <code>#</code> before your vote to facilitate the vote counting.
#Put a <code>#</code> before your vote to facilitate the vote counting.
#Type <code><nowiki>~~~~</nowiki></code> after your vote to [[SW:SIGN|sign]] it, whether you are logged in or not. Using the wrong number of "~"s counts as not signing - your signature must have both your signature itself and the time.
#Type <code><nowiki>~~~~</nowiki></code> after your vote to [[SW:SIGN|sign]] it, whether you are logged in or not.
#There is a line in each section consisting of "DO NOT ADD COMMENTS OR EDIT ANYTHING BELOW THIS LINE". You are to follow this rule; do not just type your vote at the bottom of the editing window. Not following this rule results in your vote being displayed in the wrong place.
#There is a line in each section consisting of "DO NOT ADD COMMENTS OR EDIT ANYTHING BELOW THIS LINE". You are to do so; do not just type your vote at the bottom of the editing window. Not following this rule results in your vote being displayed in the wrong place.
#Put your vote below other votes; that is, so the votes are in chronological order.
#Put your vote below other votes; that is, so the votes are in chronological order.
#You may change or remove your vote at any time. To do this you must remove your old vote in its entirety; this is an exception to the "never remove comments" rule.
#Any comments about the fight should be left in the comment section. It is recommended that you do not post argumentative, accusative, or any sort of comment with the intention of starting an argument with someone on the opposing side. The Smash Arena is a popularity contest, there's no need to argue with the other side on why your choice is superior, or why they are wrong with their reasoning for picking their choice.
#You may vote only in the current fight; all previous fights are closed.
#You may only vote in the current fight; all previous fights are closed.
#Do not leave a space between your comment and the ones above it (and/or below it). Extra spacing results in the list numbers becoming disjointed.
#Do not leave a space between your comment and the ones above it (and/or below it).
#While previewing an edit of a single section, you will see loose formatting marks (such as a trailing <code>|}</code>). Do not alter or delete them; they are important to the page's construction and take effect only when the entire round is viewed.
#Do not put your vote in the Half-Votes section. It is not where anonymous users vote, nor is it acceptable to want your vote to be worth half. It is basically saying "I want to be punished", and you will be treated accordingly.
#If there are multiple fights in a single round, try to make all your votes in a single edit.
#If there are multiple fights in a single round, try to make all your votes in a single edit.
#Any comments about the fight should be left in the comments section. The following kinds of comments are not allowed:
#*Comments relating to how close or one-sided a matchup is.
#*Comments about other users' opinions. You can point out that a user may have gotten a fact wrong, but you can't say things such as "That's not a good reason" or "But the other guy is better because X". Users can vote for any reason they want; trying to argue with someone's opinion generally has no positive outcome, in addition to simply inflating the comments section of an already large page.
#**Similarly, avoid writing votes that may invite an argument. Stating your opinion is fine, but don't make it easy for others to see it as goading.


If your vote is not added correctly - specifically, it breaks rules 3, 4, or 5 - you have a short amount of time to fix it (typically between fifteen minutes to an hour). After this time, it may be corrected and moved by any user to the Half-Votes section (adding the [[Template:Unsigned|unsigned template]] if necessary), and it will count as half a vote. Other users should not fix such broken votes without also making them half-votes. Your vote will also be considered a half-vote if your edit causes someone else's valid vote to break one of these rules. Attempting to move your vote out of the Half-Votes section may result in it being worth zero (and subsequently deleted) at an operator's discretion.
If your vote is not added correctly - that is, it breaks rules 3, 4, or 5 - you have one hour to fix it. After this time, it may be moved by any user to the Half-Votes section (adding the [[Template:Unsigned|unsigned template]] if necessary), and it will count as half a vote. Attempting to move your vote out of the Half-Votes section may result in it being worth zero at an operator's discretion. In addition, if your votes-to-rulebreaks ratio climbs too high, your votes may count for zero until the ratio drops to an acceptable level.


Multiple votes in a round are not allowed; attempts to circumvent this with [[sockpuppet]]s will result in all your votes being deleted, and is a blockable offense. Probated users who attempt to circumvent their probation with sockpuppets are also committing a blockable offense and will have their vote discounted. Remember that admins have access to CheckUser to check the IPs of any user, and will use it when sockpuppetry is suspected.
=Round 75 Three-Quarter Fiver=


Intentional half-votes undermine the intent of the half-vote system as a way to punish voters for voting incorrectly. It is legal to want a vote to be worth half, but it is very heavily discouraged, and you must state in your vote you want it to be worth half. If you put your vote in the half-votes section without stating reasons why you want it there, it is worth zero and may be deleted by any user. You may replace it later should you do it correctly.
==[[Mario]] vs. [[Wario]]==
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Above all, remember that '''voting in the Smash Arena is a privilege, not a right'''. In the vein of [[SW:NOT|what SmashWiki is not]], you are expected to at least attempt reasonable contributions to the wiki if you wish to retain your privilege to participate.
===Votes for ''Mario''===
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#He doesn't smell his own farts...right?-[[User:Ivy73|<span style="color:forestgreen">Ivy</span>]][[User talk:Ivy73|<span style="color:blue">73</span>]][[File:002MS.png]] 23:25, 25 February 2011 (EST)
#I don't like them both much, but i hate Wario more then Mario. --[[Special:Contributions/77.255.127.96|77.255.127.96]] 01:34, 26 February 2011 (EST)
#I can control him better than Wario [[Special:Contributions/206.53.152.108|206.53.152.108]] 02:40, 26 February 2011 (EST)
#I love Fireballs and Super Jump Punch![[User:KirbytheAmazing|<span style="color:pink">Kirbythe]] </span> [[Image:KirbyHeadSSBB.png|20px]] [[User talk:KirbytheAmazing|<span style="color:blue">'''Amazing'''</span>]]  03:13, 26 February 2011 (EST)
#The famous plumber FTW! [[User:Zero|Zero]] ([[User talk:Zero|talk]]) 03:31, 26 February 2011 (EST)
#Never really liked Wario, and while I may be better with Wario, I enjoy playing Mario more. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[Image: TyranitarMS.png ]] 05:29, 26 February 2011 (EST)
#Meh, never liked Wario. Mario is okay I guess, but if I had to choose, I'd say M>W. --[[Special:Contributions/24.11.24.139|24.11.24.139]] 07:00, 26 February 2011 (EST)
#Mario is a teritary and in my Top 10. Wario is among my worsts in Brawl. Plus, i always liked playing Mario than any other character in the ''Mario'' series (the second being Luigi). [[User:Zeldasmash|Zeldasmash]] ([[User talk:Zeldasmash|talk]]) 07:52, 26 February 2011 (EST)
#I don't like to play Mario very much, but Wario is disgusting. <font style="background: #fffffff" face="none" color="teal">[[File:Warp_Star1.jpg|20px]][[User:T.c.w7468|<span style="font-family:Sylfaen; color:#000080;">'''T.c.w'''</span>]][[User talk:T.c.w7468|<span style="font-family:Sylfaen; color:#800000;">'''74'''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/T.c.w7468|<span style="font-family:Sylfaen; color:#008000;">'''68'''</span>]]</font> 10:08, 26 February 2011 (EST)
# Mario's better as a character. --[[Special:Contributions/204.191.140.144|204.191.140.144]] 11:37, 26 February 2011 (EST)
#Mario is a real hero. Wario fails as a "villain" [he's not even that, he's an anti-hero]. '''''[[User:The White Blur|<span style="color:navyblue;">The White Blur</span>]][[User talk:The White Blur|<span style="color:darkred;">, The Whitest Thing Alive</span>]]''''
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==Round 257: [[Mushroom Kingdom II]] vs. [[Magicant]]==
===Votes for ''Wario''===
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#I hate Mario more than Wario. <span style="font-family:Forte">[[User:Megatron1|<span style="color:maroon">Mega</span>]][[User talk:Megatron1|<span style="color:silver">Tron1</span>]][[User:Megatron1/Laughology|<span style="color:blue">XD</span>]]</span>[[File:Decepticon.png|19px|:p]] 22:57, 25 February 2011 (EST)
#Wario's garlic says it all. [[User:Floor2000x|Floor2000x]] ([[User talk:Floor2000x|talk]]) 23:00, 25 February 2011 (EST)
#Fat says that he is top tier like Meta Knight is fat too. [[User:.....|.....]] ([[User talk:.....|talk]]) 23:02, 25 February 2011 (EST)
#I'm great with Wario. As simple as that. ☆<span style="font-family:Algerian">[[User:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:green">The</span>]] [[User talk:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:red">Solar</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon|<span style="color:blue">Dragon</span>]]</span>☆ 04:13, 26 February 2011 (EST)
#Way more interesting character. [[Special:Contributions/110.174.90.69|110.174.90.69]] 08:37, 26 February 2011 (EST)
#Time for Wario to break out his WIND ROCKETS! [[User:Brawlingbrian|<span style="color:green">Brawlingbrian</span>]][[Image:FalcoHead.png|20px]] [[User talk:Brawlingbrian|<span style="color:cerulean">LAND</span>]][[User:Brawlingbrian/Soundtracks|<span style="color:orange">MASTER!</span>]]  09:16, 26 February 2011 (EST)
# Since I voted, Wario's gonna lose..... <code>[[User:Mesuxelf|<font color="indianred">Mesprit</font>]], [[User talk:Mesuxelf|<font color="gold">Uxie</font>]], [[User:Mesuxelf|<font color="blue">Azelf</font>]].  Mesuxelf</code> 09:44, 26 February 2011 (EST)
#Mario's cool with me, but I'm rooting for Wario here. The Fatal Wind hits for extreme damage. This reminds me of a bear who can fart on his opponents to KO them immediately...[[Special:Contributions/98.242.123.228|98.242.123.228]] 11:58, 26 February 2011 (EST)
#Waaaay higher tier.[[Special:Contributions/198.166.220.113|198.166.220.113]] 12:41, 26 February 2011 (EST)
#Mario is only number 31 on the SSBB tier list. Wario is 5th. 'Nuff said. [[User:HTK|HTK, and you have just been knocked off the stage]] ([[User talk:HTK|talk]]) 14:54, 26 February 2011 (EST)
#He eats garlic man! That's hardcore :P<span style="font-family:Jokerman">[[User:Vincent Tran|<span style="color:salmon">Vincent</span>]] [[User talk:Vincent Tran|<span style="color:red">Tran</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Vincent Tran|Blorbs?]]</span>[[File:Kirby-1.png|30px]] 15:02, 26 February 2011 (EST)
#Killer farts own fireballz anyday! [[User:The Bioshadow|TheBioShadow]] ([[User talk:The Bioshadow|talk]]) 17:02, 26 February 2011 (EST)
 
==Half-votes==
#Wario has 12 different costumes. SWEEEEET!- i dont have an account  <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:68.197.115.28|68.197.115.28]] ([[User talk:68.197.115.28|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/68.197.115.28|contribs]]) 17:47, 26 February, 2011</small>
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===Comments===
This should clear some stuff out from that line. [[User:.....|.....]] ([[User talk:.....|talk]]) 22:57, 25 February 2011 (EST)
 
Megatron1, Floor2000 and I were the first ones to vote. [[User:.....|.....]] ([[User talk:.....|talk]]) 23:10, 25 February 2011 (EST)
:Can we please have less of these kinds of comments? The page is kind of big enough as it is. [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[Image:Toomai.png|20px|link=User:Toomai/Bin|???]] The Emissary 23:12, 25 February 2011 (EST)
::Sorry. [[User:.....|.....]] ([[User talk:.....|talk]]) 23:14, 25 February 2011 (EST)
:::Yeah. I think this match is going to be my first lost. [[User:.....|.....]] ([[User talk:.....|talk]]) 08:48, 26 February 2011 (EST)
::::Or what if I lose all of these matches. [[User:.....|.....]] ([[User talk:.....|talk]]) 08:56, 26 February 2011 (EST)
 
Guys, check the recent changes for today. You'll be surprised by what you see. [[User:Brawlingbrian|<span style="color:green">Brawlingbrian</span>]][[Image:FalcoHead.png|20px]] [[User talk:Brawlingbrian|<span style="color:cerulean">LAND</span>]][[User:Brawlingbrian/Soundtracks|<span style="color:orange">MASTER!</span>]]  11:03, 26 February 2011 (EST)
:Comments like this are unncessary. T_T <span style="font-family:Forte">[[User:Megatron1|<span style="color:maroon">Mega</span>]][[User talk:Megatron1|<span style="color:silver">Tron1</span>]][[User:Megatron1/Laughology|<span style="color:blue">XD</span>]]</span>[[File:Decepticon.png|19px|:p]] 11:35, 26 February 2011 (EST)
LOL. Someone said I don't have an account and did not sign their vote. [[User:.....|.....]] ([[User talk:.....|talk]]) 13:36, 26 February 2011 (EST)
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==[[Luigi]] vs. [[Diddy Kong]]==
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|style="width:100%; background:#dfdfdf; padding:5px" colspan="6"|Next up is a pair of second bananas, both more agile and less conventional than their more well-known counterparts. Both originating as palette swaps before being distinctified in later games, which of the two has it here?
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===Votes for ''Mushroom Kingdom II''===
 
===Votes for ''Luigi''===
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:<s>1. Wow, who'd have thought that I would ever vote for a Melee stage over a Smash 4 stage? Unfortunately for Magicant, I just find the stage to be ugly and weird looking. It probably doesn't help that it runs on the 3DS but it doesn't look appealing to me in the slightest. On the other hand who can't love the design of a stage inspired by the classic Super Mario Bros. NES series itself? ''[[User:Trainer Alex|<span style="color: blue;">'''Alex'''</span>]] the [[User talk:Trainer Alex|<span style="color: red;">'''Jigglypuff trainer'''</span>]]'' 10:48, 2 June 2018 (EDT)</s>
#YEAH! Epic Down Taunt! [[User:Floor2000x|Floor2000x]] ([[User talk:Floor2000x|talk]]) 23:00, 25 February 2011 (EST)
#I ''hate'' Magicant with a passion. Going with the obvious better option. A classic too. [[User:KirbysCrazyAppetite|Kirby's Crazy Appetite]] ~ [[File:KirbysCrazyAppetiteSig.png|50x20px]] 12:48, 2 June 2018 (EDT)
#SHORYUKEN!-[[User:Ivy73|<span style="color:forestgreen">Ivy</span>]][[User talk:Ivy73|<span style="color:blue">73</span>]][[File:002MS.png]] 23:29, 25 February 2011 (EST)
#Mushroom Kingdom II = ''Super Mario Bros. 2''! [[User:Dragonfirebreath25|Dragonfirebreath25]] ([[User talk:Dragonfirebreath25|talk]]) 12:52, 2 June 2018 (EDT)
#I prefer playing with him. --[[Special:Contributions/77.255.127.96|77.255.127.96]] 01:41, 26 February 2011 (EST)
#[[:User:ZeldaStarfoxfan2164|ZeldaStarfoxfan2164]] ([[User talk:ZeldaStarfoxfan2164|talk]]) is a never lover boy  20:56, 2 June 2018 (EDT)
#Green > Red [[User:KirbytheAmazing|<span style="color:pink">Kirbythe]] </span> [[Image:KirbyHeadSSBB.png|20px]] [[User talk:KirbytheAmazing|<span style="color:blue">'''Amazing'''</span>]] 03:16, 26 February 2011 (EST)
#The only correct answer is Mushroom Kingdom II. [[User:Pokebub|Pokebub]] ([[User talk:Pokebub|talk]]) 01:36, 4 June 2018 (EDT)
#Similar to my previous vote, I never really liked Diddy Kong, and while I'm more competent with Diddy, I'm a fan of Luigi, who I also enjoy playing more as well. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[Image: TyranitarMS.png ]] 05:29, 26 February 2011 (EST)
#Magicant is just weird. [[User:Awesomelink234|<span style="font-size:10pt;background:#00FF20;border:outset #083 2px;padding:1px 3px;color:#050DF7">Awesomelink234, the Super Cool Sonic Fan</span>]] [[User talk:Awesomelink234|Leave a message if needed]] 08:41, 4 June 2018 (EDT)
#One of the closest characters of my choice to being a secondary. Plus, Luigi can kick Diddy's ass.....pretty badly. [[User:Zeldasmash|Zeldasmash]] ([[User talk:Zeldasmash|talk]]) 07:50, 26 February 2011 (EST)
#This one's pretty close because I like trolling people with Flying Man, but this was my favorite Melee stage so nostalgia beats trolling. [[User:TheNuttyOne|TheNuttyOne]] 14:41, 7 June 2018 (EDT)
# SPAGETTI! <code>[[User:Mesuxelf|<font color="indianred">Mesprit</font>]], [[User talk:Mesuxelf|<font color="gold">Uxie</font>]], [[User:Mesuxelf|<font color="blue">Azelf</font>]].  Mesuxelf</code> 09:45, 26 February 2011 (EST)
#Magicent's a cool stage, but I have no real relation with the ''Earthbound'' series. ''Super Mario Bros. 2'' is a good game. But speaking in terms of stages, Mushroom Kingdom II has more room to move around, no assist characters that will gang up on you (Birdo's only slightly annoying), and I like the Pidget. [[User:Alex95|Alex95]] ([[User talk:Alex95|talk]]) 21:07, 8 June 2018 (EDT)
#Currently my tenth main, but Luigi's going to move up my list. [[User:Brawlingbrian|<span style="color:green">Brawlingbrian</span>]][[Image:FalcoHead.png|20px]] [[User talk:Brawlingbrian|<span style="color:cerulean">LAND</span>]][[User:Brawlingbrian/Soundtracks|<span style="color:orange">MASTER!</span>]] 11:06, 26 February 2011 (EST)
#I'm a sucker for nostalgia, plus I like this stage better anyway, so... yeah. <span style="font-family:Corbel; font-size:12pt">[[User:Smash Master|<span style="color:darkblue">'''Smash''']] [[User talk:Smash Master|<span style="color:darkgreen">'''Master'''</span>]]</span></span> 15:22, 9 June 2018 (EDT)
# Weegee needs more love. --[[Special:Contributions/204.191.140.144|204.191.140.144]] 11:38, 26 February 2011 (EST)
#I like Melee... and Mario... [[Special:Contributions/54.175.143.180|54.175.143.180]] 21:39, 30 June 2018 (EDT)
#I just love to do his Jump Punch to finish off foes! Hooray for the Fiery Godfist! [[Special:Contributions/98.242.123.228|98.242.123.228]] 11:54, 26 February 2011 (EST)
#It's very close for me,  but I gotta go with MKII. it's such a throwback, I gotta go for it. Sorry Magicant. [[User:Dakota.952|Dakota.952]] [[User talk:Dakota.952]] 17:00, 8 July 2018 (EDT)
#Well Luigi is my fourth favorite Nintendo character, so I change that vote. [[User:.....|.....]] ([[User talk:.....|talk]]) 13:46, 26 February 2011 (EST)
#For me it's either a game I have never played or a series I don't care about. That and I'm a big Mario fan. [[User:CaptainGamer|Captain Gamer]] ([[User talk:CaptainGamer|talk]]) 13:06, 16 July 2018 (EDT)
#Negative Zone=EPIC! [[User:Toon Shiek|Toon Shiek-Out!]] ([[User talk:Toon Shiek|talk]]) 14:20, 26 February 2011 (EST)
#mario bros. 2 is my choice for best nes game and this level captures my first experiences with the game [[User:XVI|XVI]] ([[User talk:XVI|talk]]) 18:33, 20 July 2018 (EDT)
# I don't even need to say  thing.<span style="font-family:Jokerman">[[User:Vincent Tran|<span style="color:salmon">Vincent</span>]] [[User talk:Vincent Tran|<span style="color:red">Tran</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Vincent Tran|Blorbs?]]</span>[[File:Kirby-1.png|30px]] 15:09, 26 February 2011 (EST)
#Even though I am a fan of Magicant because of the universe its in, Mushroom Kingdom II is just... better. In every way. [[User:Kbimbatti22|Kbimbatti22]] ([[User talk:Kbimbatti22|talk]]) 13:22, 25 July 2018 (EDT)l
#2 words: Go WeeGee! [[User:The Bioshadow|TheBioShadow]] ([[User talk:The Bioshadow|talk]]) 17:03, 26 February 2011 (EST)
#I like Magicant because it seems weird, BUT in this matchup Mushroom Kingdom II is better. It's more refined, stable and easier to play. Long live Ultimate. [[User:Sparkwave|Sparkwave]] ([[User talk:Sparkwave|talk]]) 12:06, 17 August 2018 (EDT)
#Luigi's Final Smash is much better, and he's green [not green-skinned, I mean he wears green clothing]. '''''[[User:The White Blur|<span style="color:navyblue;">The White Blur</span>]][[User talk:The White Blur|<span style="color:darkred;">, The Whitest Thing Alive</span>]]''''
#I don't know what to say [[User:Sammybambam11|Sammybambam11]] ([[User talk:Sammybambam11|talk]]) 14:25, 10 August 2018 (EDT)
#Playing on Mario stages in Smash for me is an absolute treat, plus the retro-sounding music gives off so much nostalgia. Sorry Magicant, you're cool, but not as good as one of Mr. Video Game's home stages! [[File:SSB4DarkSonicHead.png|17px|link=User:SonicSpeed48]][[User talk:SonicSpeed48|<font color="navyblue">''Speed'''''48'''</font>]] 20:40, 20 August 2018 (EDT)
#I think Mushroom Kingdom II is a much bigger throwback to the classics. Sorry Magicant! [[User talk:RetroPika|<font color="yellow">RetroPika</font>]][[File:PikachuHeadSSB.png|17px]] 03:29, 8 September 2018 (EDT)
#Mushroom kingdom is superior. Sorry, earthbound fans! [[User:NicoNiconii|NicoNiconii]] ([[User talk:NicoNiconii|talk]]) 11:16, 2 November 2018 (EDT) NicoNiconii, November 2, 2018, 11:16 AM EST
#I've never played Earthbound so I'll cast my vote here. --[[Special:Contributions/203.128.94.27|203.128.94.27]] 10:29, 3 November 2018 (EDT)
#I am a HUGE Mario fan, and Magicant is very... odd. Go Mushroom Kingdom! Also, the music rocks:)[[User:Super Eli|Super Eli]] ([[User talk:Super Eli|talk]]) 04:51, 6 November 2018 (EST)
#--[[Special:Contributions/14.199.84.205|14.199.84.205]] 09:47, 10 November 2018 (EST)
#Here I am. [[User:UltimateWoomy|UltimateWoomy]] ([[User talk:UltimateWoomy|talk]]) 22:55, 11 November 2018 (EST)
#[[Super Mario Bros. 2]] is quite underrated so this stage is pretty cool for representing  that game, plus it’s coming back to Ultimate.[[Magicant]]’s a pretty good stage too [[Special:Contributions/174.55.24.64|174.55.24.64]] 13:44, 15 November 2018 (EST)
#I MADE UP MY MIND! [[User:BESTIDIOTEVER|BESTIDIOTEVER]] ([[User talk: BESTIDIOTEVER|talk]]) 22:43, 25 November 2018 (EST)
#Magican't win! [[User:RK50||RK50]] ([[User talk: RK50|talk]]) 21:16, 15 December 2018 (EST)
#It's the obvious choice to go with the face of gaming's sequel! Johnson T. Shy Guy 17:36, 19 December (EDT)
#The song has been stuck in my head all day, so I can't not vote this. [[Special:Contributions/63.224.129.183|63.224.129.183]] 15:34, 23 January 2019 (EST)
#The hazards and stuff are much more creative. Are there even any in Magicant? [[Special:Contributions/KingKRool26|KingKRool26]] 8:00, 14 February 2019 (EST)
#I vote for Mushroom Kingdom II becuase overall I think it looks better as a stage then Magicant. 8:56 AM 18 February 2019 (CST)
#Mushroom Kingdom II is overall a much better stage to fight on, despite the fact it's a walk-off stage. And there's no Flying Man. 2:43 PM, 4 March 2019 (EST)
#I like Mario. And Magicant sounds too much like Magic can't. [[Special:Contributions/50.43.56.91|50.43.56.91]] 19:30, April 11, 2019 (EDT)
#''A-sla-a-sla-a-sla-tte-ry...'' When I was young, not only did I make up the aforementioned lyrics for the ''SMB2'' theme's opening notes, but I wrote an unintentional self-insert fanfic based on ''SMB2''. <span style="font-family:Mario Party 2/3 Textbox">[[User:RickTommy|<span style="color:red">Rick</span>]][[User talk:RickTommy|<span style="color:green">Tommy</span>]]</span> 01:24, April 25, 2019 (EDT)
#I love retro stages, Magicant is camping galore as well, soooooo[[User:Azantix|Azantix]] ([[User talk:Azantix|talk]]) 11:52, June 24, 2019 (EDT)
#Magicant made a level 9 Luigi look dumb.[[User:Snorlax TheGreat|Snorlax TheGreat]] ([[User talk:Snorlax TheGreat|talk]]) 08:15, July 5, 2019 (EDT)
#--[[User:Doggieboy9|Doggieboy9]] ([[User talk:Doggieboy9|talk]]) 13:08, July 5, 2019 (EDT)
#I prefer beating up Birdo over getting beat up by Chicken Man[[Special:Contributions/198.98.24.19|198.98.24.19]] 19:23, September 3, 2019 (EDT)
#I prefer Mushroom Kingdom II because I am a Mario Fan.[[User:Crocodile Dippy 2|Crocodile Dippy 2]] ([[User talk:Crocodile Dippy 2|talk]]) 14:14, September 11, 2019 (EDT)
#Jesus this hasn't been updated in a while...but yeah Magicant sucks. '''Your Senpai,''' [[User:Iron Warrior|<span style="color: red;">'''Iron'''</span>]] [[User talk:Iron Warrior|<span style="color: cyan;">'''Warrior'''</span>]] 12:13, November 20, 2019 (EST)
#everything is better than flying man lol[[User:Stelgard M|Stelgard M]] ([[User talk:Stelgard M|talk]]) 17:24, December 25, 2019 (EST)
#Clearly, Flying Man is way to OP and unfair for the others when someone grabs him. I destroyed someone much better than me using him. They should trash either him or the stage. As for Mushroom Kingdom II, I have nothing against it. [[User:Mario Kart 7 Rules|Mario Kart 7 Rules]] ([[User talk:Mario Kart 7 Rules|talk]]) 12:37, March 2, 2020 (EST)


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#I’m just a sucker for Mario stages. Besides, who doens’t love the feeling of extreme nostalgia. <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:MarioFighter64|MarioFighter64]] ([[User talk:MarioFighter64|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/MarioFighter64|contribs]]) 20:02, 20 August 2018 (EDT)</small>
#Weegee has better moves and more experience.- i dont have an account<small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:68.197.115.28|68.197.115.28]] ([[User talk:68.197.115.28|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/68.197.115.28|contribs]]) 17:47, 26 February, 2011</small>
#I feel that it looks a lot cleaner than Magicant. It looks better. <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:Cassinator|Cassinator]] ([[User talk:Cassinator|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Cassinator|contribs]]) 20:55, 10 December 2018 (EST)</small>
#MKII FTW! <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:180.191.158.100|180.191.158.100]] ([[User talk:180.191.158.100|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/180.191.158.100|contribs]]) 23:54, 17 December 2018 (EST)</small>
# Birdo is a better trophy than Flying Man in my opinion. <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:BowserIsBroken|BowserIsBroken]] ([[User talk:BowserIsBroken|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/BowserIsBroken]]) 18:58, 21 February 2019 (EST) </small>
#i love this stage, I think it's a very interesting idea, but mostly, I just don't like the flying man from magicant.[[User:SpiritSquirtle|SpiritSquirtle]] ([[User talk:SpiritSquirtle|talk]]) 18:36, September 22, 2019 (EDT)
#MushroomKingdom Because I'ts One Of My Favorite Battle Stages, But I Have Respects To Magicant. <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:Super Kirby X|Super Kirby X]] ([[User talk:Super Kirby X|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Super Kirby X|contribs]]) 1:00 29, September 24</small>
#Mario is my childhood. I also have never heard of magicant. <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:64.90.137.2|64.90.137.2]] ([[User talk:64.90.137.2|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/64.90.137.2|contribs]]) 14:26, October 30, 2019</small>
#Couldn't care less about the other one. --[[User:lucina-is-better-than-marth]] <!--Not signed properly-->
#I like melee better, so Mushroom Kingdom 2 for me. [[Special:Contributions/80.155.164.74|80.155.164.74]] 04:50, September 24, 2019 (EDT) <!--Improper formatting (no #'s)-->
#I don't like this stage that much but I REALLY don't like Magicant so this one gets my vote. -[[User:Chiruria|'''''Chiruria!''''']] 12:52, February 21, 2020 (EST)
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#Better music, better environment, and a better stage to fight on, honestly. [[User:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''Aidan'''</span>]], [[User talk:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''the College-Bound Rurouni'''</span>]] 11:58, 2 June 2018 (EDT)
#I barely like Luigi. Diddy is just epic item spam. <span style="font-family:Forte">[[User:Megatron1|<span style="color:maroon">Mega</span>]][[User talk:Megatron1|<span style="color:silver">Tron1</span>]][[User:Megatron1/Laughology|<span style="color:blue">XD</span>]]</span>[[File:Decepticon.png|19px|:p]] 22:57, 25 February 2011 (EST)
#[[Special:Contributions/23.17.208.28|23.17.208.28]] 00:59, 4 June 2018 (EDT)
#PEANUTS![[Special:Contributions/206.53.152.106|206.53.152.106]] 02:47, 26 February 2011 (EST)
#Magicant is beautiful and way better looking --[[User:Myth|<font color="orange">'''Myth'''</font>]] [[File:Myth Kirby.png|19px|link=User talk:Myth]] 13:53, 24 June 2018 (EDT)
# I hate Luigi in this game, or at least I hate to play agaisnt him and I prefer Diddy´s bananas. [[User:Zero|Zero]] ([[User talk:Zero|talk]]) 03:31, 26 February 2011 (EST)
#I hate Magicant because whoever gets the Flying Man is pretty much guaranteed a win unless they SD several times. However I'm giving it a vote out of Pity, because I like Earthbound, and because I absolutely despise Mushroom Kingdom II. [[Special:Contributions/72.133.91.93|72.133.91.93]] 09:32, 6 June 2018 (EDT)YoshisaurusThe9th
#I just hate Luigi and his stupid drug-induced final smash. ☆<span style="font-family:Algerian">[[User:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:green">The</span>]] [[User talk:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:red">Solar</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon|<span style="color:blue">Dragon</span>]]</span>☆ 04:13, 26 February 2011 (EST)
#The heck is wrong with y'all. MK2 is beat out in pretty much every department by Magicant. [[File:RagnarokSignature.png|20px|link=]] [[User:Ragnarok320|<span style="color: red;">'''Ragnarok320, The Toa of Fire''']]</span> [[User talk:Ragnarok320|<span style="color: black;">'''(talk)'''</span>]] 18:48, 5 July 2018 (EDT)
#Monkey with peanut popguns and rocketbarrels > Secondary brother. [[Special:Contributions/110.174.90.69|110.174.90.69]] 08:36, 26 February 2011 (EST)
#Magicant looks great, and will likely look even better in Ultimate. MKII is fine, but not nearly as good or interesting as Magicant. [[User:Kirbitzein|Kirbitzein]] ([[User talk:Kirbitzein|talk]]) 01:41, 8 July 2018 (EDT)
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#Flying Man is more helpful when it comes to KOing opponents than Birdo's eggs. [[User:Warriorking98|Warriorking98]] 22:26, 14 July 2019 (EDT)
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#I've never been a huge fan of retro stages. However, I am a huge fan of taking old, retro settings from games and remaking them in higher quality, and Magicant is a perfect candidate for this. It is aesthetically unique compared to almost every stage in smash with it's heavy amount of pink, and I love all of the Earthbound references. I like most of the hazards on this stage, but I understand that the flying men can be quite annoying. I can't wait to play on this stage in Ultimate, it's already looking stunning. [[User:Mudmag|Mudmag]] ([[User talk:Mudmag|talk]])
#It is so beautiful, this has good music and it is so enjoyable, and this is very rememorable to me, but the most fun part of this stage is the Flying Men. [[User:Andreepika11233|Andreepika11233]] ([[User talk:Andreepika11233|talk]]) 19:32, 9 August 2018 (EDT)
#A second, in my opinion poor attempt at constructing a good Mushroom Kingdom stage vs a beautiful, nostalgic stage from an equally great game. Magicant's an easy choice for me. [[User:SugarCookie420|SugarCookie420]] ([[User talk:SugarCookie420|talk]]) 08:43, 23 August 2018 (EDT)
#Honestly, I haven't played on the SMB2 stage before. However, I HAVE played on this stage multiple times and I love the brightly colored, wacky style of it and the nice calm music that plays. Plus, the Flying Men sprites are cool! [[User:Crazy456Rhino|Crazy456Rhino]] ([[User talk:Crazy456Rhino|talk]]) 12:13, 7 September 2018 (EDT)
#I've never actually played on Mushroom Kingdom II, but Magicant is a much better looking stage, I like its series much more, and the music is phenomenal. <b>[[User:john3637881|<span style="color: black;">John</span>]]</b> [[File:John3637881 Signature.png|20px]] <b>[[User talk:John3637881|<span style="color: red;">HUAH!</span>]]</b> 12:54, 7 September 2018 (EDT)
#Magicant wins for me hands down due to all the awesome references on this stage. Seeing the Dungeon Man and other parts of Mother 1+2 recreated in 3d is a real treat. [[User:RisingFalcon|RisingFalcon]] ([[User talk:RisingFalcon|talk]]) 19:26, 7 September 2018 (EDT)
#Prettier and chock full of cool references. [[User:TheDavsto|TheDavsto]] ([[User talk:TheDavsto|talk]]) 10:13, 11 September 2018 (EDT)
#Since I played for 3ds way more, I definitely would prefer this beautiful stage. [[User:Super A|Super A]] ([[User talk:Super A|talk]]) 19:37, 24 September 2018 (EDT)
#It has a better layout, great music, and gorgeous visuals (especially in Ultimate). The Flying Men may be annoying and I love the retro aesthetic of MK2 and similar stages, but Magicant's creative design makes it more memorable to me. [[User:AquaShield11097|<span style="color: blue;">Aqua Shield</span>]] ([[User talk:AquaShield11097|''<span style="color: darkblue;">talk</span>'']]) [[File:AquaShield.png|20px]] 22:43, 2 October 2018 (EDT)
#Gorgeous map. Nice design. Will be even better in Ultimate with the option to take out the flying man. :P [[User:OctopusSandwich|OctopusSandwich]] 20:24, 14 October 2018 (EDT)
#--[[Special:Contributions/180.249.127.254|180.249.127.254]] 04:36, 4 November 2018 (EST)
#[[User:KoreanPJs|KoreanPJs]] ([[User talk:KoreanPJs|talk]]) 03:10, 7 November 2018 (EST)
#RPGs > Platformers. --[[Special:Contributions/113.212.233.12|113.212.233.12]] 06:18, 10 November 2018 (EST)
#I only have Smash for 3ds and will be getting ultimate, and I know flying man ruins the stage, but with stage hazards off, this'll be a great stage. [[User:MimoMQ|MimoMQ]] ([[User talk:MimoMQ|talk]]) 19:43, 25 November 2018 (EST)
#As a massive fan of the Mother series, this is a absolutely beautiful stage. Any mario stage (except for Ney Donk City Hall) is just to tell you how great the mario games are. (Fourside will always be the best mother stage). [[User:MasterDuelist_24|MasterDuelist_24]] ([[User talk:MasterDuelist_24|talk]]) 10:39, 31 January 2019 (EST)
#The Flying Man ruins the stage but with stage hazards off its no biggie. Mushroom Kingdom II is too small to fight on. [[User:Tyler730|Tyler730]] ([[User talk:Tyler730|talk]]) 13:05, 2 February 2019 (EST)
#One of my favorites. --[[Special:Contributions/24.146.71.225|24.146.71.225]] 18:22, 4 February 2019 (EST)
#it looks so cool man.[[User:Iamthedude|Iamthedude]] ([[User talk:Iamthedude|talk]]) 21:55, 24 February 2019 (EST)
#Magicant has godlike music and looks incredible. Makes me want an Earthbound Beginnings remake. --[[User:Plague von Karma|Plague von Karma]] ([[User talk:Plague von Karma|talk]]) 01:32, April 9, 2019 (EDT)
#Wow i never actually voted for this, anyway if this was exclusivly for the 3ds version of Magicant, then i'd say the other stage is better, but Magicant for ultimate looks so good to me it is almost no contest. Plus it isnt a walk-off <span style="background:#ea244a;border:outset #906 5px">'''[[User:Xtra3678|Xtra]][[File:Xtra_headpng.png|20px]][[User talk:Xtra3678|<span style="color:Lime">Talk</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Xtra3678|<span style="color: Gold">Edits</span>]]'''</span> 10:39, April 24, 2019 (EDT)
#I like the stage in its entirety, and Mario stages are boring. Plus, Magicant is very cute. I like the pink. [[Special:Contributions/75.86.147.26|75.86.147.26]] 07:15, May 26, 2019 (EDT)
#I think this stage looks cooler than the other. That's pretty much all. [[User:JRJ007|JRJ007]] ([[User talk:JRJ007|talk]]) 19:39, June 2, 2019 (EDT)
#The stage is cute. Plus, the Flying Man is great. [[User:LucasRules|LucasRules]] ([[User talk:LucasRules|talk]]) 17:34, June 5, 2019 (EDT)
#This one's far more creative than MK2, and the Flying Men aren't too annoying when you learn how they function. --[[User:MeatBall104|<span style="color: red">'''''Meat'''''</span>]][[User talk:MeatBall104|<span style="color: orange">'''''Ball'''''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/MeatBall104|<span style="color:Gold">'''''104'''''</span>]] [[File:MB104Pic2.jpg|20px]] 09:45, June 6, 2019 (EDT)
#Surprised this is still going on. I love both stages but I'm giving my vote to Magicant. Overall better looking stage and Ultimate's hazerdless option make it better to have a serious fight on in my (as I call it since I never played in real tournaments) pseudo tournaments, and generally I want to support the EarthBound franchise.[[User: supatoad64|<span style="color:blue;"> '''SupaToad64''' </span>]] [[ Image: MK64ToadCSP.jpg|20px ]] 02:09, June 10, 2019 (EDT)
# Two words: Walk-offs. Maybe that's one word. Whatever's the case, stages where you can walk into the blast zone are a bane for competitive and casual players alike, whether you're getting back-throwed into oblivion, or a combo brings you a little bit to far to the left while, frustratingly, you were close to 0%. [[User:Mogo|Mogo]] ([[User talk:Mogo|talk]]) 08:02, 6/10/2019 (EST)
#FLYING MAN!!!![[User:DarkNight|DarkNight]] ([[User talk:DarkNight|talk]]) 11:06, June 15, 2019 (EDT)
#It looks like pink cotton candy!!!![[Special:Contributions/71.9.47.77|71.9.47.77]] 11:30, June 15, 2019 (EDT)
#Let's just say this stage really appeals to me personally. --[[Special:Contributions/73.220.19.65|73.220.19.65]] 16:45, June 19, 2019 (EDT)
#It doesn't have a walk-off section. Better for gameplay imo. [[Special:Contributions/156.57.171.73|156.57.171.73]] 15:06, August 20, 2019 (EDT)RSdabeast
#Great music, great callbacks to MOTHER 1, and just a great stage in general. It was a bit better in Smash 4 because the memories looked cooler and flying man was stronger, but Ultimate made it bigger so it's fine. Magicant best stage.[[Special:Contributions/12.148.188.195|12.148.188.195]] 19:31, October 2, 2019 (EDT)
#Music is better, has nice throwbacks to an amazing RPG. Except Flying Man. Flying Man can die. <span style="font-family: SimHei;color: orange;background-color: green;">LegendEH Is Very [[User talk:LegendEH|Handsome]]~</span> 11:22, November 22, 2019 (EST)
#I hate walk offs. they make me sad. [[User:CMWAidanx|CMWAidanx? Yikes.]] ([[User talk:CMWAidanx|talk]]) 16:42, December 2, 2019 (EST) 16:41 EST, 12/2/2019
#As of the visual update in Ultimate, I am now much more fond of this stage. It's also more fun to play on now, especially because you can spike opponents through the clouds. ''[[User:Trainer Alex|<span style="color: blue;">'''Alex'''</span>]] the [[User talk:Trainer Alex|<span style="color: red;">'''Jigglypuff trainer'''</span>]]'' 10:10, December 22, 2019 (EST)
#Magicant is just better to fight on in my opinion. Flying Man is pretty annoying, but the reason I'm giving a full vote because it has better music, and platforms, just listening to Unfounded Revenge/Smashing song of praise while fighting as Ness/Lucas on Magicant is enough to make me feel better. [[User:Weegeegaming|'''<span style="color: green;">Weegeegaming</span>''']]|[[User talk:Weegeegaming|'''''<span style="color: red;">talk</span>''''']] 04:31, April 11, 2020 (EDT)


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#This stage is more fun in my opinion. <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:73.204.16.209|73.204.16.209]] ([[User talk:73.204.16.209|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/73.204.16.209|contribs]]) 15:45, 11 September 2018 (EDT)</small>
This is what I call an exciting battle! [[User:KirbytheAmazing|<span style="color:pink">Kirbythe]] </span> [[Image:KirbyHeadSSBB.png|20px]] [[User talk:KirbytheAmazing|<span style="color:blue">'''Amazing'''</span>]]  03:55, 26 February 2011 (EST)
#I prefer the music and the stage layout over Mushroom Kingdom II. <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:Epic Meme God|Epic Meme God]] ([[User talk:Epic Meme God|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Epic Meme God|contribs]]) 20:27, 5 February 2019 (EST)</small>
 
#Mushroom Kingdom 2 is not in the Mushroom Kingdom, it's in Supcon!!! <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:LinkBoy|LinkBoy]] ([[User talk:LinkBoy|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/LinkBoy|contribs]]) 18:08, 8 March 2019 (EST)</small>
I like both characters but can't decide who to vote for! --[[Special:Contributions/24.11.24.139|24.11.24.139]] 06:56, 26 February 2011 (EST)
#I am a massive fan of the Mother series, and plus this stage is beautiful. <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:Xay1494|Xay1494]] ([[User talk:Xay1494|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Xay1494|contribs]]) 20:28, 15 March 2019 (EDT)</small>
:Yeah kinda same here for me too. [[User:.....|.....]] ([[User talk:.....|talk]]) 08:55, 26 February 2011 (EST)
#Magicant also references Earthbound Zero. Its a fun stage with the Flyingmen. <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:FlaminKirb|FlaminKirb]] ([[User talk:FlaminKirb|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/FlaminKirb|contribs]]) 12:56, April 12, 2019</small>
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#Magicant hazards off is pretty nice for casual doubles/free for all’s not gonna lie. <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:ThiccMan|ThiccMan]] ([[User talk:ThiccMan|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/ThiccMan|contribs]]) 08:27, 2019 April 13</small>
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#I love this stage a lot! If I am not feeling like a serious 1v1, I might do a slightly more casual free-for-all on this stage. 18:33 September 24, 2019 (EST) Kalifguest22 <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:Kalifguest22|Kalifguest22]] ([[User talk:Kalifguest22|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Kalifguest22|contribs]]) 18:33 September 24, 2019 (EDT)</small>
 
#FLYING BIRD MAN <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:69.5.117.14|69.5.117.14]] ([[User talk:69.5.117.14|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/69.5.117.14|contribs]]) 19:22, December 11, 2019</small>
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#Just better <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:107.77.249.24|107.77.249.24]] ([[User talk:107.77.249.24|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/107.77.249.24|contribs]]) 16:32, December 12, 2019</small>
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#As a casual smash player, this is a great stage for camping and a lot of people struggle with the bottom area.<small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:18.205.117.140|18.205.117.140]] ([[User talk:18.205.117.140|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/18.205.117.140|contribs]]) 19:24, March 19, 2020</small>
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#Can get KOs much easier. <span style="font-family:Forte">[[User:Megatron1|<span style="color:maroon">Mega</span>]][[User talk:Megatron1|<span style="color:silver">Tron1</span>]][[User:Megatron1/Laughology|<span style="color:blue">XD</span>]]</span>[[File:Decepticon.png|19px|:p]] 22:57, 25 February 2011 (EST)
#Well it has higher knockback and owns. [[User:.....|.....]] ([[User talk:.....|talk]]) 23:06, 25 February 2011 (EST)
#The Flippers are just annoying.-[[User:Ivy73|<span style="color:forestgreen">Ivy</span>]][[User talk:Ivy73|<span style="color:blue">73</span>]][[File:002MS.png]] 23:29, 25 February 2011 (EST)
#Because they are useful at Multi Man Brawl. --[[Special:Contributions/77.255.127.96|77.255.127.96]] 01:42, 26 February 2011 (EST)
#One day when I played stock brawl, this thing saves my live when I throw it to my enemy[[Special:Contributions/206.53.152.101|206.53.152.101]] 02:49, 26 February 2011 (EST)
#Bumpers sometimes help me... [[User:KirbytheAmazing|<span style="color:pink">Kirbythe]] </span> [[Image:KirbyHeadSSBB.png|20px]] [[User talk:KirbytheAmazing|<span style="color:blue">'''Amazing'''</span>]] 03:18, 26 February 2011 (EST)
#Bumper fail...but good to KO. [[User:Zero|Zero]] ([[User talk:Zero|talk]]) 03:30, 26 February 2011 (EST)
#One hit on a bumper can be all it takes to kill you. ☆<span style="font-family:Algerian">[[User:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:green">The</span>]] [[User talk:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:red">Solar</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon|<span style="color:blue">Dragon</span>]]</span>☆ 04:13, 26 February 2011 (EST)
# No other item can do up to 999% damage on N64 version in one throw. [[User:Fuddlebob|Fuddlebob]] ([[User talk:Fuddlebob|talk]]) 05:35, 26 February 2011 (EST)
#Way more deadly. [[Special:Contributions/110.174.90.69|110.174.90.69]] 08:35, 26 February 2011 (EST)
#There are two things I like: smash throwing these little things and pinball. [[User:Brawlingbrian|<span style="color:green">Brawlingbrian</span>]][[Image:FalcoHead.png|20px]] [[User talk:Brawlingbrian|<span style="color:cerulean">LAND</span>]][[User:Brawlingbrian/Soundtracks|<span style="color:orange">MASTER!</span>]] 11:09, 26 February 2011 (EST)
#Bumpers, in Brawl at least, are better at scoring KO's and can be set in midair. You can't get this in SSB64. [[Special:Contributions/98.242.123.228|98.242.123.228]] 11:51, 26 February 2011 (EST)
# They appear in more games. [[User:Toon Shiek|Toon Shiek-Out!]] ([[User talk:Toon Shiek|talk]]) 14:23, 26 February 2011 (EST)
#err, lol? <span style="font-family:Jokerman">[[User:Vincent Tran|<span style="color:salmon">Vincent</span>]] [[User talk:Vincent Tran|<span style="color:red">Tran</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Vincent Tran|Blorbs?]]</span>[[File:Kirby-1.png|30px]] 15:10, 26 February 2011 (EST)
#Has a huge (and very annoying) knockback, really fn though. [[User:The Bioshadow|TheBioShadow]] ([[User talk:The Bioshadow|talk]]) 17:04, 26 February 2011 (EST)
#Flippers rack up damage, Bumpers immediatley KO. Clear choice here. '''''[[User:The White Blur|<span style="color:navyblue;">The White Blur</span>]][[User talk:The White Blur|<span style="color:darkred;">, The Whitest Thing Alive</span>]]''''
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#These were so annoying to me in Melee, slowly kills you while teh bumper is a 0hko. [[User:Floor2000x|Floor2000x]] ([[User talk:Floor2000x|talk]]) 23:01, 25 February 2011 (EST)
#Flippers aren't as disruptive, and in ''Melee'', the Flipper could be used to get a large amount of points on the first stage in Adventure mode when you fight the Yoshis. 2500 points for each Yoshi KO'd by it, and the KOs stack together for double, triple, etc. KOs. So if you were to KO 5 Yoshis with it, you would get 12,500 points from Flipper KOs, and an additional 15,000 points for Quintuple KO, giving a total of 27,500 points. You can't do that with the Bumper in ''Brawl''. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[Image: TyranitarMS.png ]] 05:29, 26 February 2011 (EST)
# It has a cooler name... <code>[[User:Mesuxelf|<font color="indianred">Mesprit</font>]], [[User talk:Mesuxelf|<font color="gold">Uxie</font>]], [[User:Mesuxelf|<font color="blue">Azelf</font>]].  Mesuxelf</code> 09:46, 26 February 2011 (EST)
# These things are less annoying than the bumpers. --[[Special:Contributions/204.191.140.144|204.191.140.144]] 11:39, 26 February 2011 (EST)
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*sigh* Another crazy ratio battle... [[User:KirbytheAmazing|<span style="color:pink">Kirbythe]] </span> [[Image:KirbyHeadSSBB.png|20px]] [[User talk:KirbytheAmazing|<span style="color:blue">'''Amazing'''</span>]] 04:06, 26 February 2011 (EST)
The reason I love Mushroom Kingdom II is because of the music from ''{{s|mariowiki|Super Mario Bros 2}}''. First, you have the overworld theme during a match and when time is running out and in [[Sudden Death]], it changes to the boss battle theme! Great stage! [[User:Dragonfirebreath25|Dragonfirebreath25]] ([[User talk:Dragonfirebreath25|talk]]) 17:19, 2 June 2018 (EDT)
:Haven't I already told you to stop complaining constantly about matchups where the voters results don't appear close? Toomai already told ..... to stop making comments such as these that add nothing and are just making an already overly page bigger, and this applies to your "crazy ratio" complaints as well. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[Image: TyranitarMS.png ]] 05:18, 26 February 2011 (EST)
:Actually, Suzaku Castle in Smash 4 will do the same thing, although it has to be a specific track of music.[[Special:Contributions/72.133.91.93|72.133.91.93]] 08:09, 7 June 2018 (EDT)Blueflame105
Someone keeps deleting my vote! I keep voting the same thing on Magicant, but every time I come back to the page to look at new votes, my vote is gone! I'm not sockpuppeting, so why do my votes keep being taken off? [[Special:Contributions/72.133.91.93|72.133.91.93]] 12:00, 8 June 2018 (EDT)Blueflame105
:Apparently someone with the same IP address has already voted. That's probably why it didn't count.[[User:SugarCookie420|SugarCookie420]] ([[User talk:SugarCookie420|talk]]) 08:40, 23 August 2018 (EDT)
:Amazing stage picks for this Smash Arena
How is this still going [[User talk:RetroPika|<font color="yellow">RetroPika</font>]][[File:PikachuHeadSSB.png|17px]] 04:58, 8 January 2019 (EST)
::The wiki status is still Red, so not much attention is placed onto this. [[User:SugarCookie420|<span style="font-family:Times New Roman"><span style="color: red;">SugarCookie</span></span>]] [[User talk:SugarCookie420|<span style="font-family:Impact"><span style="color: green;">420</span></span>]] 14:54, 4 March 2019 (EST)
:::Still, these are supposed to be weekly, and it's been about 10 months. We should probably end this round at some point. <span style="color:lightblue">'''Everone123'''</span> [[File:Everone123 Sig.png|20px]] ([[User:Everone123|u]] / [[User talk:Everone123|t]] / [[Special:Contributions/Everone123|c]]) 21:50, March 15, 2019 (EDT)
::::We are in a red Wiki status which means we must focus more on main articles than the SA. We can get new rounds once the status lowers to at least a yellow. [[:User:ZeldaStarfoxfan2164{{#if:|_({{{3}}})}}|ZeldaStarfoxfan2164]] ([[User talk:ZeldaStarfoxfan2164|talk]]) is made in America  21:58, March 15, 2019 (EDT)
::::We are now in the yellow status. It's still high, but we should probably have a new arena by the end of April. [[User:X-Biaur19|X-Biaur19]] ([[User talk:X-Biaur19|talk]]) 10:10, April 25, 2019 (EDT)X-Biaur19
:::::We may be in yellow, but we are still in a very heavy yellow, which is honestly almost red, due to jokers reveal. It may seem like its unnecessary to have to wait this long but i dont think we should try to rush the admins right now. <span style="background:#ea244a;border:outset #906 5px">'''[[User:Xtra3678|Xtra]][[File:Xtra_headpng.png|20px]][[User talk:Xtra3678|<span style="color:Lime">Talk</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Xtra3678|<span style="color: Gold">Edits</span>]]'''</span> 12:29, April 25, 2019 (EDT)
::::That's fair.[[User:X-Biaur19|X-Biaur19]] ([[User talk:X-Biaur19|talk]]) 10:07, April 29, 2019 (EDT)X-Biaur19
Hasn't this match been going for more than a year now?[[User:DarkNight|DarkNight]] ([[User talk:DarkNight|talk]]) 20:55, June 16, 2019 (EDT)


I think both stages are about equal in functionality when weighing strengths and weaknesses, but Magicant wins out for me not only because it's absolutely breathtaking, especially in Ultimate, but because of the rampant references to Mother 1 and 2. As anyone who has followed my edits knows (which I expect to be a grand total of zero), origins really really matter to me, so to see a stage crafted with such love for the source material just amazes me. Mushroom Kingdom II is no slouch either, but I'd argue it's slightly worse since almost all of its assets are just straight-up taken from All-Stars while Magicant uses mostly original models and animations. Sure it also takes things directly from both of the Mother games it appears in, but uses them sparingly and mostly just for a few cool call-backs in the background. I think it says a lot when I've never been a huge Mother fan and yet the love for the series put into this stage blows me away. [[Special:Contributions/73.220.19.65|73.220.19.65]] 16:45, June 19, 2019 (EDT)
Hmm... this got me thinking... what would happen if you could set a bumper and a flipper at the same place, and then set one of them off? The bumper would hit the flipper and the flipper would hit the bumper........ Hmm... [[User:Fuddlebob|Fuddlebob]] ([[User talk:Fuddlebob|talk]]) 05:41, 26 February 2011 (EST)


...This is going to end soon right?<span style="font-family: Algerian; font-size:12pt"> '''[[User: supatoad64|<span style="color:dodgerblue;"> Supa </span>]] [[User talk: supatoad64|<span style="color:dodgerblue;"> Toad 64 </span>]]''' </span> [[ Image: MK64ToadCSP.jpg|20px  ]] 02:17, June 22, 2019 (EDT)
Orange Tyrant, about your comment, you can't earn points for ANYTHING in Brawl. --[[Special:Contributions/24.11.24.139|24.11.24.139]] 07:02, 26 February 2011 (EST)
:I don't recall myself being orange, and please refer to rule 7 of the Smash Arena. But regardless, your claim against me is false anyway. You do indeed earn bonus points for clearing Classic or All Star in Brawl based on difficulty, and can even earn an insignificant 10,000 point bonus for clearing with no stock loss. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[Image: TyranitarMS.png ]] 08:32, 26 February 2011 (EST)
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OK I think this one has had its run and we should stop it now. We may be in red but my god this just dragged on and on and on and on... [[User:Coconut2|<font color="cyan">Coconut2</font>]][[File:IsabelleHeadSSBU.png|20px]] 10:08, June 25, 2019
==[[Link]] vs. [[Marth]]==
:If smash arena is supposed to have a new match weekly, this is exatly 1 year, 3 weeks, and 1 day overdue.<span style="font-family: Algerian; font-size:12pt"> '''[[User: supatoad64|<span style="color:dodgerblue;"> Supa </span>]] [[User talk: supatoad64|<span style="color:dodgerblue;"> Toad 64 </span>]]''' </span> [[ Image: MK64ToadCSP.jpg|20px  ]] 20:35, July 1, 2019 (EDT)
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OK END THIS ALREADY THIS IS ALREADY TOO MUCH TIME OR HELL EVEN CANCEL SMASH ARENA ENTIRELY, I DON'T CARE, JUST END IT. [[User:Coconut2|<font color="cyan">Coconut2</font>]][[File:IsabelleHeadSSBU.png|20px]] 21:21, July 17, 2019
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:First, calm down, it's not like this will go on for another millennium again. Second I will contact the admin team regarding when this will end.<span style="font-family: Algerian; font-size:12pt"> '''[[User: supatoad64|<span style="color:dodgerblue;"> Supa </span>]] [[User talk: supatoad64|<span style="color:dodgerblue;"> Toad 64 </span>]]''' </span> [[ Image: MK64ToadCSP.jpg|20px  ]] 05:43, July 19, 2019 (EDT)
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When will we get a new Smash Arena? [[Special:Contributions/174.55.24.64|174.55.24.64]] 17:52, September 4, 2019 (EDT)
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Just gonna put it here, do not comment on when we are getting another Smash Arena. The admins will get to it when they get to it, and asking again and again will get you nowhere. [[User:Cookies and Creme|<span style="font-family: Georgia;color: black;">Cookies</span>]][[File:CnC Signature.png|20px]][[User talk:Cookies and Creme|<span style="font-family: Georgia; color: black;">Creme</span>]] 18:39, September 22, 2019 (EDT)
===Votes for ''Link''===
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#Tough choice, but Link is much more epic then Marth. [[User:Zero|Zero]] ([[User talk:Zero|talk]]) 03:29, 26 February 2011 (EST)
#Master sword > Falchion. [[User:Fuddlebob|Fuddlebob]] ([[User talk:Fuddlebob|talk]]) 05:36, 26 February 2011 (EST)
#I will always prefer this guy more than Marth. He is cooler, he is more epic and he is more bad-ass. And also, he is my main. [[User:Zeldasmash|Zeldasmash]] ([[User talk:Zeldasmash|talk]]) 07:44, 26 February 2011 (EST)
#Link has saved the world on numerous occasions and is simply a far more awesome character. I don't like Marth at all. [[Special:Contributions/110.174.90.69|110.174.90.69]] 08:34, 26 February 2011 (EST)
#While I'm better with MARTH, I love Link's games WAY more.<span style="font-family:Jokerman">[[User:Vincent Tran|<span style="color:salmon">Vincent</span>]] [[User talk:Vincent Tran|<span style="color:red">Tran</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Vincent Tran|Blorbs?]]</span>[[File:Kirby-1.png|30px]] 15:12, 26 February 2011 (EST)
#Lol I never had even heard of Fire Emblem until Melee and besides links the original Nintendo tall knight in shineing armour. [[User:The Bioshadow|TheBioShadow]] ([[User talk:The Bioshadow|talk]]) 17:06, 26 February 2011 (EST)
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Ok, so when’s the new Smash Arena coming? Genuine confusion. <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:TCBlitz|TCBlitz]] ([[User talk:TCBlitz|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/TCBlitz|contribs]]) 22:13, November 12, 2019</small>
===Votes for ''Marth''===
:Read what I said above. [[User:Cookies and Creme|<span style="font-family: Georgia;color: black;">Cookies</span>]][[File:CnC Signature.png|20px]][[User talk:Cookies and Creme|<span style="font-family: Georgia; color: black;">Creme</span>]] 19:11, December 9, 2019 (EST)
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Uhhh... how long has this been on? I just made my account in March and, judging by your comments, it's been like, two years. [[User:Weegeegaming|'''<span style="color: green;">Weegeegaming</span>''']]|[[User talk:Weegeegaming|'''''<span style="color: red;">talk</span>''''']] 04:37, April 11, 2020 (EDT)
#I'm a Fire Emblem fan at heart. <span style="font-family:Forte">[[User:Megatron1|<span style="color:maroon">Mega</span>]][[User talk:Megatron1|<span style="color:silver">Tron1</span>]][[User:Megatron1/Laughology|<span style="color:blue">XD</span>]]</span>[[File:Decepticon.png|19px|:p]] 22:57, 25 February 2011 (EST)
#I've always used marth instead of link in the games. [[User:Floor2000x|Floor2000x]] ([[User talk:Floor2000x|talk]]) 23:02, 25 February 2011 (EST)
#Dude, Marth is the king of Melee and Brawl. [[User:.....|.....]] ([[User talk:.....|talk]]) 23:05, 25 February 2011 (EST)
#Tough pick, but I gotta say recovery is slightly better, plus he has better combos.-[[User:Ivy73|<span style="color:forestgreen">Ivy</span>]][[User talk:Ivy73|<span style="color:blue">73</span>]][[File:002MS.png]] 23:29, 25 February 2011 (EST)
#I'm better in all ways with Marth. --[[Special:Contributions/77.255.127.96|77.255.127.96]] 01:50, 26 February 2011 (EST)
#Dolphin Slash is my favourite move![[Special:Contributions/206.53.152.106|206.53.152.106]] 02:56, 26 February 2011 (EST)
#I just like Marth better[[User:KirbytheAmazing|<span style="color:pink">Kirbythe]] </span> [[Image:KirbyHeadSSBB.png|20px]] [[User talk:KirbytheAmazing|<span style="color:blue">'''Amazing'''</span>]]  03:24, 26 February 2011 (EST)
#Link sucks bad in Brawl. Marth is much better. ☆<span style="font-family:Algerian">[[User:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:green">The</span>]] [[User talk:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:red">Solar</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon|<span style="color:blue">Dragon</span>]]</span>☆ 04:13, 26 February 2011 (EST)
#While he may be a dropped secondary now, he was in my early Brawl days my best character, while Link has always been among my worst. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[Image: TyranitarMS.png ]] 05:29, 26 February 2011 (EST)
# I'm doing this because I want to... <code>[[User:Mesuxelf|<font color="indianred">Mesprit</font>]], [[User talk:Mesuxelf|<font color="gold">Uxie</font>]], [[User:Mesuxelf|<font color="blue">Azelf</font>]].  Mesuxelf</code> 09:46, 26 February 2011 (EST)
# Marth's moveset is pretty awesome, and Link honestly kind of sucks. <font style="background: #fffffff" face="none" color="teal">[[File:Warp_Star1.jpg|20px]][[User:T.c.w7468|<span style="font-family:Sylfaen; color:#000080;">'''T.c.w'''</span>]][[User talk:T.c.w7468|<span style="font-family:Sylfaen; color:#800000;">'''74'''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/T.c.w7468|<span style="font-family:Sylfaen; color:#008000;">'''68'''</span>]]</font> 10:13, 26 February 2011 (EST)
#I can't think of something witty to say for this, so I'll just say I like Marth better.[[User:Brawlingbrian|<span style="color:green">Brawlingbrian</span>]][[Image:FalcoHead.png|20px]] [[User talk:Brawlingbrian|<span style="color:cerulean">LAND</span>]][[User:Brawlingbrian/Soundtracks|<span style="color:orange">MASTER!</span>]]  11:19, 26 February 2011 (EST)
#Marth pwns --[[Special:Contributions/204.191.140.144|204.191.140.144]] 11:41, 26 February 2011 (EST)
#I'm voting for Marth 'cause I despise Link so much I just pound him heartlessly and the other LoZ characters (which is the only reason I play Smash Bros.) [[Special:Contributions/98.242.123.228|98.242.123.228]] 11:47, 26 February 2011 (EST)
#I don't get why they always made Link such a crappy character in Smash, but Marth is the better fighter, even though I don't own Brawl.[[Special:Contributions/198.166.220.113|198.166.220.113]] 12:55, 26 February 2011 (EST)
#. I main Marth. [[User:Toon Shiek|Toon Shiek-Out!]] ([[User talk:Toon Shiek|talk]]) 14:24, 26 February 2011 (EST)
#Marth's faster, and has the best recovery/moves. Link, on the other hand, is the polar opposite. '''''[[User:The White Blur|<span style="color:navyblue;">The White Blur</span>]][[User talk:The White Blur|<span style="color:darkred;">, The Whitest Thing Alive</span>]]''''


:Smash Arena is not a priority as of right now. The admins will make a new one eventually, not yet just. [[Image:001Toad.jpg|20px]] <span style="font-family:Algerian">'''[[User:OmegaToad64|<font color="blue">OmegαToαd</font> <font color="aqua">the Toαd Wαrrior</font>]] [[User talk:OmegaToad64|<font color="springgreen">(BUP)</font></span>]]''' 04:40, April 11, 2020 (EDT)
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::If you want, you can join our Discord. We have an active Smash Arena there. [[User:Cookies and Creme|<span style="font-family: Georgia;color: black;">Cookies</span>]][[File:CnC Signature.png|20px]][[User talk:Cookies and Creme|<span style="font-family: Georgia; color: black;">Creme</span>]] 17:49, April 13, 2020 (EDT)
#ALL Fire Emblem characters rule. But Marth is my All time favorite by far.- i dont have an account<small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:68.197.115.28|68.197.115.28]] ([[User talk:68.197.115.28|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/68.197.115.28|contribs]]) 17:47, 26 February, 2011</small>
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Huh, I guess that's the end of Smash Arena. I stopped following it a few years back. RIP. --[[User:Meester Tweester|Meester Tweester]] ([[User talk:Meester Tweester|talk]]) 00:15, April 16, 2020 (EDT)
===Comments===
::Smash Arena is on Discord now, the SA tab links to its page. [[:User:ZeldaStarfoxfan2164{{#if:|_({{{3}}})}}|ZeldaStarfoxfan2164]] ([[User talk:ZeldaStarfoxfan2164|talk]]) is a never lover boy  23:21, April 23, 2020 (EDT)
I guess this five-way battle was to make things more interesting or is it to use up most of the suggestions? --[[Special:Contributions/204.191.140.144|204.191.140.144]] 11:44, 26 February 2011 (EST)
:It's somewhat of a tradition that every 25th round has five fights, though using up a month's worth of the backlog is always good too. [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[Image:Toomai.png|20px|link=User:Toomai/Bin|???]] The Golden 12:33, 26 February 2011 (EST)
::Ok I see --[[Special:Contributions/204.191.140.144|204.191.140.144]] 13:52, 26 February 2011 (EST)
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==Round 256: [[Sheik]] vs. [[Greninja]]==
==[[Squirtle]] vs. [[Ivysaur]] vs. [[Charizard]]==
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===Votes for ''Sheik''===
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===Votes for ''Squirtle''===
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#Squirtle! <span style="font-family:Forte">[[User:Megatron1|<span style="color:maroon">Mega</span>]][[User talk:Megatron1|<span style="color:silver">Tron1</span>]][[User:Megatron1/Laughology|<span style="color:blue">XD</span>]]</span>[[File:Decepticon.png|19px|:p]] 22:57, 25 February 2011 (EST)
#Squirtle is the best! --[[Special:Contributions/77.255.127.96|77.255.127.96]] 02:07, 26 February 2011 (EST)
#If it weren't for him, I would basically never use the Pokemon Trainer. Go Squirtle!!! <3 --[[Special:Contributions/24.11.24.139|24.11.24.139]] 06:58, 26 February 2011 (EST)
#First, let's take this from the Pokemon point of view. Squirtle's water type is super effective against and resists Charizard's fire type. Also, Ivysaur's grass type is super effective against Squirtle, but Water-type Pokemon usually learn Ice-type moves, which are super effective against Ivysaur. Next, let's take this from the Smash Bros. Point of view. Squirtle has good ground and air mobility, can wall cling, and has invincibility frames through Withdraw. Squirtle is the sole winner. [[User:Brawlingbrian|<span style="color:green">Brawlingbrian</span>]][[Image:FalcoHead.png|20px]] [[User talk:Brawlingbrian|<span style="color:cerulean">LAND</span>]][[User:Brawlingbrian/Soundtracks|<span style="color:orange">MASTER!</span>]]  11:29, 26 February 2011 (EST)
#Squirtle's cute =D --[[Special:Contributions/204.191.140.144|204.191.140.144]] 11:42, 26 February 2011 (EST)
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#Hmm some weird frog thing or a ninja of royalty? <span style="font-family:Algerian;font-size:10pt;background:#000;border:outset #083 2px;padding:1px">'''[[User:Serpent King|<span style="color:#083">Serpent</span>]] [[File:SKSig.png|12px|link=]] [[User talk:Serpent King|<span style="color:#ed0">King</span>]]'''</span> 00:44, 16 December 2017 (EST)
===Votes for ''Ivysaur''===
#Yeah Sheik is 10x more fun to play at high level, and way more interesting to watch than Greninja most of the time. <span style="color:Green;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px skyblue">'''--'''</span>[[User:Penro|<span style="color:Red; text-shadow: 0px 0px 3px red">'''Pen'''</span>]][[User talk:Penro|<span style="color:Black; text-shadow: 0px 0px 3px black">'''ro'''</span>]] 08:41, 19 December 2017 (EST)
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#Fun fact: when I was in primary school, I once wore a similar disguise and was known as Sheik for that day. <span style="font-family:Mario Party 2/3 Textbox">[[User:RickTommy|<span style="color:red">Rick</span>]][[User talk:RickTommy|<span style="color:green">Tommy</span>]]</span> 22:27, 11 January 2018 (EST)
#Who do you think I'm gonna pick? -[[User:Ivy73|<span style="color:forestgreen">Ivy</span>]][[User talk:Ivy73|<span style="color:blue">73</span>]][[File:002MS.png]] 23:29, 25 February 2011 (EST)
#Sheik has a grenade, martial arts training, needles, and exploding walnuts. Greninja has a long-ass tongue, a log, and a crappy doll. Who would you choose? [[User:Iron Gladiator|Iron Reggie, Master of Memes]] ([[User talk:Iron Gladiator|talk]]) 02:04, 28 January 2018 (EST)
# My personal favourite out of the three, I just think he is better. [[User:Fuddlebob|Fuddlebob]] ([[User talk:Fuddlebob|talk]]) 05:37, 26 February 2011 (EST)
#I like both of them but I like Sheik more cuz top tier [[User:SmileFtw123|SmileFtw123]] ([[User talk:SmileFtw123|talk]]) 03:05, 30 January 2018 (EST)
# DR. OCTAGONAPUS BLAAGH!! <code>[[User:Mesuxelf|<font color="indianred">Mesprit</font>]], [[User talk:Mesuxelf|<font color="gold">Uxie</font>]], [[User:Mesuxelf|<font color="blue">Azelf</font>]].  Mesuxelf</code> 09:47, 26 February 2011 (EST)
#I think I prefer Sheik a little bit more, so I guess I'll place my vote here.--[[Special:Contributions/192.197.128.21|192.197.128.21]] 13:16, 2 February 2018 (EST)
#I can use ivysaur well in brawl minus, so.<span style="font-family:Jokerman">[[User:Vincent Tran|<span style="color:salmon">Vincent</span>]] [[User talk:Vincent Tran|<span style="color:red">Tran</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Vincent Tran|Blorbs?]]</span>[[File:Kirby-1.png|30px]] 15:14, 26 February 2011 (EST)
#I prefer Sheik's aesthetic design, and Greninja isn't a very good starter in my opinion. Neither is great to me, but I prefer Sheik. --[[User:UnbeatableSith|UnbeatableSith]] ([[User talk:UnbeatableSith|talk]]) 21:41, 16 March 2018 (EDT)
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#She has a chain. [[User:Pokebub|Pokebub]] ([[User talk:Pokebub|talk]]) 22:43, 16 March 2018 (EDT)
#I can't stand fighting against Greninja, and Sheik was one of my mains in Brawl. Also, I feel like she has a higher chance of making it into Smash 5. [[User:TheNuttyOne|TheNuttyOne]] 15:58, 11 April 2018 (EDT)


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===Votes for ''Charizard''===
#Shiek is better <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:24.234.62.218 |24.234.62.218 ]] ([[User talk:24.234.62.218 |talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/24.234.62.218 |contribs]]) 23:22, 11 December 2017 (EST)</small>
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#very good at aerial combos# <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:73.222.194.39|73.222.194.39]] ([[User talk:73.222.194.39|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/73.222.194.39|contribs]]) 03:46, 9 January 2018</small>
#He's my favorite starter. [[User:Floor2000x|Floor2000x]] ([[User talk:Floor2000x|talk]]) 23:04, 25 February 2011 (EST)
#Beast dude. [[User:.....|.....]] ([[User talk:.....|talk]]) 23:11, 25 February 2011 (EST)
#Flamethrower pwns[[Special:Contributions/206.53.152.108|206.53.152.108]] 03:00, 26 February 2011 (EST)
#My favorite pokémon. [[User:Zero|Zero]] ([[User talk:Zero|talk]]) 03:28, 26 February 2011 (EST)
#I BELIEVE I CAN FLY![[User:KirbytheAmazing|<span style="color:pink">Kirbythe]] </span> [[Image:KirbyHeadSSBB.png|20px]] [[User talk:KirbytheAmazing|<span style="color:blue">'''Amazing'''</span>]]  03:49, 26 February 2011 (EST)
#Yay! another of my suggestions is chosen. I like fire types better than water and grass therefore I go for my third favourite Pokemon. ☆<span style="font-family:Algerian">[[User:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:green">The</span>]] [[User talk:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:red">Solar</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon|<span style="color:blue">Dragon</span>]]</span>☆ 04:13, 26 February 2011 (EST)
#If Charizard was a stand alone character and that worthless Pokemon Trainer gimmick didn't exist, I could of possibly mained him, or he would of at least became a secondary or tertiary character. Can't say the same for the other two. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[Image: TyranitarMS.png ]] 05:29, 26 February 2011 (EST)
#Here is the order i like about them. Charizard is beast, Squirtle is sort of cool and Ivysaur sucks (sorry Ivy). Charizard is stronger than those 2 and he is more cooler. Also i prefer the Charizard starter family than the other 2. [[User:Zeldasmash|Zeldasmash]] ([[User talk:Zeldasmash|talk]]) 07:47, 26 February 2011 (EST)
#Charizard is just an awesome pokemon. [[Special:Contributions/110.174.90.69|110.174.90.69]] 08:32, 26 February 2011 (EST)
#I just love a Pokemon that can pack an amazing punch. Besides, P.T. is one of my main characters. [[Special:Contributions/98.242.123.228|98.242.123.228]] 12:01, 26 February 2011 (EST)
#Without Charizard, where would PT be and what would be the reason to main him? '''''[[User:The White Blur|<span style="color:navyblue;">The White Blur</span>]][[User talk:The White Blur|<span style="color:darkred;">, The Whitest Thing Alive</span>]]''''
#Squirtles annoying and hard to hit and Ivy's a freaking spam attack monster with vinewip so i have to go with Charizard [[User:The Bioshadow|TheBioShadow]] ([[User talk:The Bioshadow|talk]]) 17:08, 26 February 2011 (EST)
 
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#Charizard is cool cause he can breath FIRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRREE!- i dont have an account <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:68.197.115.28|68.197.115.28]] ([[User talk:68.197.115.28|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/68.197.115.28|contribs]]) 17:37, 26 February, 2011</small>
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===Comments===
Well the first vote for Ivysaur was obvious that he will vote for it. [[User:.....|.....]] ([[User talk:.....|talk]]) 08:50, 26 February 2011 (EST)
:Like Toomai said, stop making all these unnecessary comments.-[[User:Ivy73|<span style="color:forestgreen">Ivy</span>]][[User talk:Ivy73|<span style="color:blue">73</span>]][[File:002MS.png]] 11:31, 26 February 2011 (EST)
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==Round 74: [[Olimar]] vs. [[Pikmin (species)|Pikmin]]==
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===Votes for ''Olimar''===
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#And just how well were Pikmin faring on their own before Olimar got them organized? [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 22:02, 18 February 2011 (EST)
#They weren't exactly flourishing at the start of ''Pikmin 2''. They so need Olimar.<span style="font-family:Forte">[[User:Megatron1|<span style="color:maroon">Mega</span>]][[User talk:Megatron1|<span style="color:silver">Tron1</span>]][[User:Megatron1/Laughology|<span style="color:blue">XD</span>]]</span>[[File:Decepticon.png|19px|:p]] 22:07, 18 February 2011 (EST)
#Including the aforementioned comments above, there are a vast many (like, maybe over 40 :?) who use solimar.<span style="font-family:Jokerman">[[User:Vincent Tran|<span style="color:salmon">Vincent</span>]] [[User talk:Vincent Tran|<span style="color:red">Tran</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Vincent Tran|Blorbs?]]</span>[[File:Kirby-1.png|30px]] 02:35, 19 February 2011 (EST)
#Just look at him! He is awesome! ☆<span style="font-family:Algerian">[[User:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:green">The</span>]] [[User talk:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:red">Solar</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon|<span style="color:blue">Dragon</span>]]</span>☆ 03:16, 19 February 2011 (EST)
# Olimar is useless without his pikmin, but pikmin are useless without olimar.. And also, he looks so epic! <code>[[User:Mesuxelf|<font color="indianred">Mesprit</font>]], [[User talk:Mesuxelf|<font color="gold">Uxie</font>]], [[User:Mesuxelf|<font color="blue">Azelf</font>]]. Mesuxelf</code> 10:27, 19 February 2011 (EST)
# Olimar can still fight without pikmin, plus there are two pikmin that aren't in Brawl [[User:LordNock|LordNock (the guy with the pie)]] ([[User talk:LordNock|talk]]) 13:49, 19 February 2011 (EST)
# Olimar controls the Pikmin. 'Nuff said. '''''[[User:The White Blur|<span style="color:navyblue;">The White Blur</span>]][[User talk:The White Blur|<span style="color:darkred;">, The Whitest Thing Alive</span>]]''''
# I love just running around as Olimar and punching random enemies on Pikmin. Made even more fun by the fact he gets rocket gloves in Pikmin 2. [[User:Fuddlebob|Fuddlebob]] ([[User talk:Fuddlebob|talk]]) 00:55, 20 February 2011 (EST)
# Even though Olimar is nothing without his Pikmin, his Pikmin without Olimar are even less! At least Olimar can do something by himself. [[User:CriticalHit60|Critical Hit, and...]] [[User talk:CriticalHit60|KO!]] 08:44, 22 February 2011 (EST)
#Olimar is a good character for me in brawl. The pikmin would just run around the stage screaming without him.[[Special:Contributions/24.30.130.49|24.30.130.49]] 14:41, 22 February 2011 (EST)
#In the  best ending of Pikmin, Olimar inspires the Pikmin to work for themselves. The Pikmin 2 pikmin I think are in a different part of pikmin planet, but either way, Olimar is an average everyday guy, who just does stuff to feed his family. So there.[[User:Dhawk|Dhawk]] ([[User talk:Dhawk|talk]]) 14:13, 23 February 2011 (EST)
#Olimar can take a hit, unlike the Pikmin. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[Image: TyranitarMS.png ]] 14:23, 23 February 2011 (EST)
#Olimar survived well without them, and he can take more hits than them. Also, most of his attacks dont need him. [[User:HTK]]([[User talk:HTK]]) 20:18, 25 February 2011 (EST)
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===Votes for ''Greninja''===
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#I find Sheik's playstyle in SSB4 to be quite aggravating to play as or against. Greninja's not so frustrating. [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Verdana;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 01:32, 11 December 2017 (EST)
#"Come men! We must rebel against Hitler!"-[[User:Ivy73|<span style="color:forestgreen">Ivy</span>]][[User talk:Ivy73|<span style="color:blue">73</span>]][[File:002MS.png]] 21:09, 18 February 2011 (EST)
#Us Pokémon gotta stick together I guess. ''[[User:Alex Parpotta|<span style="color: blue;">'''Alex Parpotta'''</span>]] the [[User talk:Alex Parpotta|<span style="color: red;">'''flying lobster!'''</span>]]'' 04:54, 11 December 2017 (EST)
#Remember, there's strength in numbers! [[User:Brawlingbrian|<span style="color:green">Brawlingbrian</span>]][[Image:FalcoHead.png|20px]] [[User talk:Brawlingbrian|<span style="color:cerulean">LAND</span>]][[User:Brawlingbrian/Soundtracks|<span style="color:orange">MASTER!</span>]]  21:19, 18 February 2011 (EST)
#I like ''Pokémon'' more, Greninja has appeared in more than just one canon game (discounting remakes), and its playstyle in ''Smash'' is far more interesting to watch. [[File:034.png|20px]] '''<span style="font-family:Algerian">[[User:DracoRexKing|<font color="red">DracoRex,]]</font> [[User talk:DracoRexKing|<font color="olive">Creator of the Land]]</font></span>''' 07:45, 11 December 2017 (EST)
#The Pikmin pretty much make Olimar the character he is in Brawl now. [[User:Doc King|Doc King]] ([[User talk:Doc King|talk]]) 23:43, 18 February 2011 (EST)
#Greninja is a great Pokémon and he did appear in Sun and Moon as a present. Greninja's playstyle in ''Smash 4'' is... awesome! [[User:Dragonfirebreath25|Dragonfirebreath25]] ([[User talk:Dragonfirebreath25|talk]]) 09:33, 13 December 2017 (EST)
#Olimar couldn't be that good playable characters without using his Pikmins. --[[Special:Contributions/178.37.127.133|178.37.127.133]] 01:55, 19 February 2011 (EST)
#R.I.P Sheik after Melee. The Smash 4 Sheik combo game is nothing like its predecessor. also I love the hydro pump jank [[User:Lasagna|lasagna B)]] ([[User talk:Lasagna|talk]]) 10:27, 13 December 2017 (EST)
#Changed vote. I decided that pikmin are more powerful than Olimar and they are beast. [[User:.....|.....]] ([[User talk:.....|talk]]) 02:01, 19 February 2011 (EST)
#In Smash 5 Greninja's Final Smash should be Ash-Greninja. [[Special:Contributions/24.52.19.237|24.52.19.237]] 19:50, 15 December 2017 (EST)
#Without the Pikmin Olimar would've died on the pikmin planet. [[Special:Contributions/110.174.90.69|110.174.90.69]] 05:41, 19 February 2011 (EST)
#Better nerf Greninja <span style="font-family:AR JULIAN; font-size:12pt">[[User:ChuckNorris24|<span style="color:red">Chuck</span>]][[User talk:ChuckNorris24|<span style="color:green">Norris</span>]]</span>[[File:24.png|23px]]  23:10, 15 December 2017 (EST)
#Purple Pikmin is just pure win. [[User:Zero|Zero]] ([[User talk:Zero|talk]]) 06:10, 19 February 2011 (EST)
#{{Sm|iStudying}}. Nuff said. [[User:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: red;">'''Aidan'''</span>]], [[User talk:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: green;">'''the Festive Rurouni'''</span>]] 20:52, 18 December 2017 (EST)
#A Pikmin without leader don't know what to do, Olimar without Pikmin is USELESS [[User:Lucasthefourth|<span style="color:red">Lucasthefourth ]]</span> [[User talk:Lucasthefourth|<span style="color:blue">'''Psychic Power''']]</span>[[Image:Lt4_sign.jpg‎ |30px]] 07:41, 19 February 2011 (EST)
#--[[Special:Contributions/23.17.208.28|23.17.208.28]] 01:46, 24 January 2018 (EST)
#pikmin are so cute--[[User:Peach67809|Peach67809]] ([[User talk:Peach67809|talk]]) 09:35, 19 February 2011 (EST)
#Greninja is just the character I think is cooler (although ANY ninja gets cool points). I do hope they change his final smash, however, if he's gonna be in Smash 5 [[User:Crazy456Rhino|Crazy456Rhino]] ([[User talk:Crazy456Rhino|talk]]) 12:02, 9 March 2018 (EST)
#Your joking right? Without his Pikmin, Olmair is pathetic. Hevck, he doesn't even know how to punch or kick and probably couldn't with those arms! Pikmin are unstoppable army that spread fear throughout planets! [[User:The Bioshadow|TheBioShadow]] ([[User talk:The Bioshadow|talk]]) 10:48, 19 February 2011 (EST)
#I love Greninja so much. He's the best of my four mains, and I hope he's in Smash 5! [[User:Capnap64|Capnap64]] ([[User talk:Capnap64|talk]]) 09:33, 4 April 2018 (EDT)
#Olimar is nothing without his pikmin --[[Special:Contributions/204.191.132.110|204.191.132.110]] 12:03, 19 February 2011 (EST)
#Greninja is fun. Sheik is not. Sheik is aggravating, both to play as and against. Greninja is not. Greninja is a hecking awesome ninja that can literally make shurikens out of water! Sheik just throws needles at people and plays a harp. Enough said. [[Special:Contributions/72.133.91.93|72.133.91.93]] 08:05, 10 May 2018 (EDT) Blueflame105
#From a ''Smash'' perspective, these guys are awesome. In the ''Pikmin'' games, they suck. Luckily we're talking about this on a ''Smash'' related scope, so, Pikmin! '''''[[User:HavocReaper48|<span style="color:aqua;">Havoc</span>]][[User talk:HavocReaper48|<span style="color:midnightblue;">Reaper</span>]]''''' 16:46, 19 February 2011 (EST)
#as the chinease one from snake said: they fight, they help, they multiply, and then they get eaten... how terrible, give some respect to those funny, weak, and edible things! of course, i never played Pikmin... but it's name seems a bit like pokemon... so... WATCH THE POWER OF NEGATIVE ZONE![[Special:Contributions/85.250.140.18|85.250.140.18]] 12:31, 20 February 2011 (EST)
#The Pikmin are the reason Olimar is even a character in this game.[[Special:Contributions/98.116.118.143|98.116.118.143]] 19:08, 20 February 2011 (EST)
#It's 5 on 1, kinda obvious who wins [[Special:Contributions/75.32.32.229|75.32.32.229]] 13:45, 21 February 2011 (EST)
#Olimar is nothing without his Pikmin, but the Pikmin are nothing without Olimar. I'll vote for the real contender in smash.[[Special:Contributions/198.166.220.113|198.166.220.113]] 16:15, 21 February 2011 (EST)
#The series is called Pikmin, not Olimar. [[User:Burgundy|Burgundy]] ([[User talk:Burgundy|talk]]) 17:47, 21 February 2011 (EST)
#i like Pikmin![[Special:Contributions/206.53.152.103|206.53.152.103]] 22:22, 22 February 2011 (EST)
#Well, this is 1 vs 5, right?[[User:KirbytheAmazing|<span style="color:pink">Kirbythe]] </span> [[Image:KirbyHeadSSBB.png|20px]] [[User talk:KirbytheAmazing|<span style="color:blue">'''Amazing'''</span>]] 22:32, 22 February 2011 (EST)
#Pikmin are awesome, they are edible! [[User:Floor2000x|Floor2000x]] ([[User talk:Floor2000x|talk]]) 22:48, 22 February 2011 (EST)
#Olimar would be absolutely nothing without pikmin [[User:Jacobdf11|- Jacobdf11 Ganon ftw]] ([[User talk:Jacobdf11|talk]]) 07:00, 23 February 2011 (EST)
#Olimar is just useless without his valiant men. [[User:RedEgadd|RedEgadd]] ([[User talk:RedEgadd|talk]]) 20:02, 24 February 2011 (EST)
 
===Half Votes===
#olimar is the weakest without his pikmins! go pikmins!<small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:77.127.204.199|77.127.204.199]] ([[User talk:77.127.204.199|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/77.127.204.199|contribs]]) 04:53, 19 February 2011</small>
#"Let's go! We must-- what- what are you doing? Get off! No! NO! NOOOOO!" Exactly.[[User:PKFire|<span style ="color:red">PKFire</span>]][[Image:MetaKnightHead.png|20px]] [[User talk:PKFire|<span style="color:grey">Meta</span><span style="color:yellow">Knight</span>]] <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added 08:35, February 19, 2011 (EST)</small>
# Olimar is very weak- almost nothing- without these guys. (This is by Roxas13Nobody Olimar cant fight without the pikmin, so pikmin would kick his little hiney.<small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:BigBlue321|BigBlue321]] ([[User talk:BigBlue321|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/BigBlue321|contribs]]) 14:06, 19 February 2011</small>
#Pikmins are vegtables, so you can eat them! yum! <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:85.64.91.232|85.64.91.232]] ([[User talk:85.64.91.232|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/85.64.91.232|contribs]]) 12:45, 19 February 2011 (EST)</small>
#PIKMIN ARE SO SWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEET!!!!!!!!!!!!! In brawl, when Olimar doesn't have Pikmin he stinks. He can't even use smash attacks. The point is is that Pikmin  are the ones who actually brawl. <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:68.197.115.28|68.197.115.28]] ([[User talk:68.197.115.28|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/68.197.115.28|contribs]]) 10:12, 24 February 2011 (EST)</small>
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Can't decide but more better match. [[User:.....|.....]] ([[User talk:.....|talk]]) 23:20, 18 February 2011 (EST)
Shouldn't this match have been decided, like, several weeks ago? [[User:Iron Warrior|<span style="color: red;">'''Iron Reggie,'''</span>]] [[User talk:Iron Warrior|<span style="color: cyan;">'''Master of Memes'''</span>]] 10:31, 26 February 2018 (EST)
 
The pikmin were pretty much helpless before olimar, but olimar is hopeless without the pikmin... which one to choose...?[[User:Rising Dragon|Rising Dragon]] ([[User talk:Rising Dragon|talk]]) 06:36, 19 February 2011(EST)
               
The both very weak... who '''are''' better? WATCH THE POWER OF NEGATIVE ZONE!
 
So they're useless without each other, true? this is like... Popo vs Nana... no wait, they're the same... *Sigh* I wish KirbytheAmazing could vote right now, he's on study trip to Bali... [[User:Lucasthefourth|<span style="color:red">Lucasthefourth ]]</span> [[User talk:Lucasthefourth|<span style="color:blue">'''Psychic Power''']]</span>[[Image:Lt4_sign.jpg‎ |30px]] 05:01, 21 February 2011 (EST)
 
I never looked closely at Olimar's hands before...Those gloves make his hands look mechanized. [[User:Brawlingbrian|<span style="color:green">Brawlingbrian</span>]][[Image:FalcoHead.png|20px]] [[User talk:Brawlingbrian|<span style="color:cerulean">LAND</span>]][[User:Brawlingbrian/Soundtracks|<span style="color:orange">MASTER!</span>]]  11:32, 22 February 2011 (EST)
 
Another crazy ratio match....... [[User:.....|.....]] ([[User talk:.....|talk]]) 17:17, 22 February 2011 (EST)
 
I tried to get a computer with internet connection, and I only see another we-already-know-the-winner battle? THIS IS MADNESS![[User:KirbytheAmazing|<span style="color:pink">Kirbythe]] </span> [[Image:KirbyHeadSSBB.png|20px]] [[User talk:KirbytheAmazing|<span style="color:blue">'''Amazing'''</span>]]  22:36, 22 February 2011 (EST)
:But this one actually came from suggestion, i remember someone suggest this... [[User:Lucasthefourth|<span style="color:red">Lucasthefourth ]]</span> [[User talk:Lucasthefourth|<span style="color:blue">'''PK Thunder!!''']]</span>[[Image:Lucas_kirby.jpg‎ |30px]] 09:23, 23 February 2011 (EST)
::Whoever made this suggestion... I will say this to him/her: "YOU'RE A JOKE!"[[User:KirbytheAmazing|<span style="color:pink">Kirbythe]] </span> [[Image:KirbyHeadSSBB.png|20px]] [[User talk:KirbytheAmazing|<span style="color:blue">'''Amazing'''</span>]] 03:21, 24 February 2011 (EST)
:::If the community likes a suggestion, it usually makes it in. [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[Image:Toomai.png|20px|link=User:Toomai/Bin|???]] The Emissary 11:14, 24 February 2011 (EST)
:::Remember that how good a matchup is is based on the amount of votes it generates from being interesting. The Smash Arena is a popularity contest involving voting, not actual fights, so stop complaining about these votes not being close. If you were to understand the basics of voting, you would see that landslide victories are much more common than close, nearly tied votes. I'll also like to add that Toomai nor the person making the suggestion has no foresight on how the vote will turn out, so demanding "close matchups" to be chosen is demanding something that cannot be done (not to mention that trying to choose "close matchups" only will cause the Smash Arena to lose out on interesting matchups with no real gain in return). So keep this all in mind the next time you complain about a vote not being close.


This js still going? Currently Sheik 11, Greninja 12. [[User:SmileFtw123]] [[User talk:SmileFtw123]]
:::Oh, and never insult Toomai nor the person who made the suggestion based on such a ridiculous basis they have no control over. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[Image: TyranitarMS.png ]] 12:00, 24 February 2011 (EST)
Smileftw the tier list dose not matter im a dedede and jiggly main


Seriously, this should have happened months ago! Who's in charge of Smash Arena anyway? Blueflame105
:::It is kind of hard to decide this. {{unsigned|68.197.115.28|14:42, 24 February 2011 (EST)}}
::::Remember to sign your comments with four tildes <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[Image: TyranitarMS.png ]] 15:16, 24 February 2011 (EST)


Ay, they did change his final smash for Smash 5. Nice. [[User:Crazy456Rhino|Crazy456Rhino]] ([[User talk:Crazy456Rhino|talk]]) 15:18, November 5, 2019 (EST)
I only can say, hello Friday! [[User:KirbytheAmazing|<span style="color:pink">Kirbythe]] </span> [[Image:KirbyHeadSSBB.png|20px]] [[User talk:KirbytheAmazing|<span style="color:blue">'''Amazing'''</span>]]  04:35, 25 February 2011 (EST)
:I agree. And to think that when I saw this I thought it would actually be a bit closer than the last 3 or 4... my mistake. [[User:Fuddlebob|Fuddlebob]] ([[User talk:Fuddlebob|talk]]) 05:18, 25 February 2011 (EST)
::Well, the difference even get bigger! (Pikmin's score = 2 x Olimar's score) = Made me LOL[[User:KirbytheAmazing|<span style="color:pink">Kirbythe]] </span> [[Image:KirbyHeadSSBB.png|20px]] [[User talk:KirbytheAmazing|<span style="color:blue">'''Amazing'''</span>]]  12:30, 25 February 2011 (EST)
 
I was playing today as Olimar, and one of the Red Pikmin was impaled by one of Link's arrows aand survived. The Pikmin '''can''' take a hit.[[User:Brawlingbrian|<span style="color:green">Brawlingbrian</span>]][[Image:FalcoHead.png|20px]] [[User talk:Brawlingbrian|<span style="color:cerulean">LAND</span>]][[User:Brawlingbrian/Soundtracks|<span style="color:orange">MASTER!</span>]]  19:00, 25 February 2011 (EST)
:That's common knowledge. However, they can only take a few hits. Olimar is capable of taking much more. <span style="font-family:Forte">[[User:Megatron1|<span style="color:maroon">Mega</span>]][[User talk:Megatron1|<span style="color:silver">Tron1</span>]][[User:Megatron1/Laughology|<span style="color:blue">XD</span>]]</span>[[File:Decepticon.png|19px|:p]] 19:01, 25 February 2011 (EST)
::Yeah, but pikmin are there to help Olimar do more damage. [[User:.....|.....]] ([[User talk:.....|talk]]) 20:05, 25 February 2011 (EST)
:::And Olimar only can use a 'really' few moves without Pikmins... [[User:KirbytheAmazing|<span style="color:pink">Kirbythe]] </span> [[Image:KirbyHeadSSBB.png|20px]] [[User talk:KirbytheAmazing|<span style="color:blue">'''Amazing'''</span>]]  20:16, 25 February 2011 (EST)
This guy named HTK (someone new) just voted. [[User:.....|.....]] ([[User talk:.....|talk]]) 22:43, 25 February 2011 (EST)
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