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:Personally, I'm of the opinion that this is not the true Final Roster. I just think it's weird that there's quite a bit of space at the botton of the character select screen. Even with all the characters unlocked, including Mii Fighters, there's still enough room for 4 more characters. What else is interesting is that, yesterday, while all the new info was flooding out, [http://mynintendonews.com/2014/09/11/wii-u-and-nintendo-3ds-smash-bros-to-get-additional-characters-by-linking-versions/ someone on NeoGAF said something interesting regarding new characters to be introduced in the 3DS version.] He says an aquaintance of his, who works on European localization, has actually seen models for [[Ridley]], [[Mewtwo]], the Chorus Men, and [[Dixie Kong]], and that they will be on the Wii U version, and they will also be playable on the 3DS version by connecting/syncing the Wii U and 3DS. I admit, this does sound a bit fishy, since I'm always skeptical of rumors and leaks that are purely text-based, but this does make a fair amount of sense. After all, the thing that drives hype the most when it comes to ''Super Smash Bros.'' are the characters, and since will know the supposed "final roster" once the get a copy of the 3DS version, there won't be that much to get excited over when it comes to the Wii U version. After all, possible new modes and playing ''Super Smash Bros.'' in HD will only go so far. It's also a good way to encourage people to buy the Wii U version. Yeah, it's kind of a dick move to lock out certain content, forcing people to buy more then they want to for the full experience, and I do feel bad for those people, but since I already have a Wii U and already intend on buying both versions, I'm cool with this. Besides... I just want to believe this is true. Really, the roster is fantastic, the biggest and outright best roster ''Super Smash Bros.'' has ever had (though I am sad about the lack of the [[Ice Climbers]], the [[Duck Hunt (SSB4)|''Duck Hung'' Dog]] makes up for it a bit), but I'm still unsatisified... Because Ridley's not there. Yes, I'm going to be THAT guy. No, not the guy who will never be satisfied unless a certain character is in it. I feel like I'm different from the people who are upset that [[Isaac]], Andy, [[Takamaru]], [[King K. Rool]], [[Ghirahim]], Bandanna Dee, Paper Mario, or even [[Krystal]] (my second most-wanted character who I feel is long overdue) playable. What sets Ridley apart from them is that Ridley really is one of those characters who should have been in ''Super Smash Bros.'' a long time ago! Even though ''[[Metroid (universe)|Metroid]]'' isn't that popular in Japan, it reeks that [[Samus]] is the only character to represent her respective franchise, especially knowing how long the series has been going on, and how popular it is pretty much everywhere else! This isn't like ''[[F-Zero (universe)|F-Zero]]'' where all the characters are racers and there hasn't been a new ''F-Zero'' game in LITERALLY a decade, there have been new ''Metroid'' games recently, and [[Nintendo]] even said there are new games in the works. Not to mention, if ''[[Star Fox (universe)|Star Fox]]'', which only has a new game once in a blue moon, can have 2-3 characters to represent their franchise, so can ''Metroid'', and no, [[Zero Suit Samus|taking off Samus's power suit]] doesn't count, even though it's a completely different moveset! I don't want to turn this into a Ridley debate discussion, but really, that's all I ask, that's all I've ever asked for out of this new ''Super Smash Bros.'' I mean, yeah, I have a ton of characters I'd like to see, and I also felt that [[Little Mac]] was long overdue as well (and I probably might have been upset if he didn't make it in, though not as upset as I am about this), but Ridley doesn't feel like a character I really really want; he feels like a requirement by this point. And the fact that [[Masahiro Sakurai]] just skipped over him again... I just can't accept that... So, sorry for that rant, but those are the reasons I feel Nintendo, and Sakurai might just have more surprises for us yet. Heck, maybe in the NicoNico/Nintendo Treehouse Twitch stream today, they'll confirm my suspisions... - [[User:BrawlMatt202|BrawlMatt202]] ([[User talk:BrawlMatt202|talk]]) 09:15, 12 September 2014 (EDT) | :Personally, I'm of the opinion that this is not the true Final Roster. I just think it's weird that there's quite a bit of space at the botton of the character select screen. Even with all the characters unlocked, including Mii Fighters, there's still enough room for 4 more characters. What else is interesting is that, yesterday, while all the new info was flooding out, [http://mynintendonews.com/2014/09/11/wii-u-and-nintendo-3ds-smash-bros-to-get-additional-characters-by-linking-versions/ someone on NeoGAF said something interesting regarding new characters to be introduced in the 3DS version.] He says an aquaintance of his, who works on European localization, has actually seen models for [[Ridley]], [[Mewtwo]], the Chorus Men, and [[Dixie Kong]], and that they will be on the Wii U version, and they will also be playable on the 3DS version by connecting/syncing the Wii U and 3DS. I admit, this does sound a bit fishy, since I'm always skeptical of rumors and leaks that are purely text-based, but this does make a fair amount of sense. After all, the thing that drives hype the most when it comes to ''Super Smash Bros.'' are the characters, and since will know the supposed "final roster" once the get a copy of the 3DS version, there won't be that much to get excited over when it comes to the Wii U version. After all, possible new modes and playing ''Super Smash Bros.'' in HD will only go so far. It's also a good way to encourage people to buy the Wii U version. Yeah, it's kind of a dick move to lock out certain content, forcing people to buy more then they want to for the full experience, and I do feel bad for those people, but since I already have a Wii U and already intend on buying both versions, I'm cool with this. Besides... I just want to believe this is true. Really, the roster is fantastic, the biggest and outright best roster ''Super Smash Bros.'' has ever had (though I am sad about the lack of the [[Ice Climbers]], the [[Duck Hunt (SSB4)|''Duck Hung'' Dog]] makes up for it a bit), but I'm still unsatisified... Because Ridley's not there. Yes, I'm going to be THAT guy. No, not the guy who will never be satisfied unless a certain character is in it. I feel like I'm different from the people who are upset that [[Isaac]], Andy, [[Takamaru]], [[King K. Rool]], [[Ghirahim]], Bandanna Dee, Paper Mario, or even [[Krystal]] (my second most-wanted character who I feel is long overdue) playable. What sets Ridley apart from them is that Ridley really is one of those characters who should have been in ''Super Smash Bros.'' a long time ago! Even though ''[[Metroid (universe)|Metroid]]'' isn't that popular in Japan, it reeks that [[Samus]] is the only character to represent her respective franchise, especially knowing how long the series has been going on, and how popular it is pretty much everywhere else! This isn't like ''[[F-Zero (universe)|F-Zero]]'' where all the characters are racers and there hasn't been a new ''F-Zero'' game in LITERALLY a decade, there have been new ''Metroid'' games recently, and [[Nintendo]] even said there are new games in the works. Not to mention, if ''[[Star Fox (universe)|Star Fox]]'', which only has a new game once in a blue moon, can have 2-3 characters to represent their franchise, so can ''Metroid'', and no, [[Zero Suit Samus|taking off Samus's power suit]] doesn't count, even though it's a completely different moveset! I don't want to turn this into a Ridley debate discussion, but really, that's all I ask, that's all I've ever asked for out of this new ''Super Smash Bros.'' I mean, yeah, I have a ton of characters I'd like to see, and I also felt that [[Little Mac]] was long overdue as well (and I probably might have been upset if he didn't make it in, though not as upset as I am about this), but Ridley doesn't feel like a character I really really want; he feels like a requirement by this point. And the fact that [[Masahiro Sakurai]] just skipped over him again... I just can't accept that... So, sorry for that rant, but those are the reasons I feel Nintendo, and Sakurai might just have more surprises for us yet. Heck, maybe in the NicoNico/Nintendo Treehouse Twitch stream today, they'll confirm my suspisions... - [[User:BrawlMatt202|BrawlMatt202]] ([[User talk:BrawlMatt202|talk]]) 09:15, 12 September 2014 (EDT) | ||
::There's also the enormous possibility that Sakurai and his team never ran into time constraints or even budget issues during development. This game has been implied to be a masterpiece that was handled carefully and thoroughly planned out, and I think that's reason to believe that secret characters will emerge in some capacity in the future (probably by DLC). I'm reluctant to believe the Wii U version would require the 3DS version but I'm a dedicated fan and it'd be worth the $40 to buy the latter (can't say that for many others, though). That said, Mewtwo, Dixie, and the veteran characters we haven't seen yet (talking about Wolf and Lucas mostly) could very easily fill those four spots. I also think Ridley is overdue as well, though the four I mentioned earlier all have better chances (perhaps Ridley ''could'' get in over Lucas, since Ridley is hugely popular in the U.S. and is often resurrected in some capacity while Lucas has only been in one Japan-only game and isn't terribly popular himself). As for the Ice Climbers, I had hopes that they'd be reworked, but them not showing up means all attempts failed so far. That means no more glitches and annoying-ass chain grabs for now at least. Ah well, we'll just have to wait and see. <font face="X-Files">[[User:Blue Ninjakoopa|<span style="color:#0000a5">Blue</span>]] [[User talk:Blue Ninjakoopa|<span style="color:#0000a5">Ninjakoopa</span>]]</font> 09:46, 12 September 2014 (EDT) | ::There's also the enormous possibility that Sakurai and his team never ran into time constraints or even budget issues during development. This game has been implied to be a masterpiece that was handled carefully and thoroughly planned out, and I think that's reason to believe that secret characters will emerge in some capacity in the future (probably by DLC). I'm reluctant to believe the Wii U version would require the 3DS version but I'm a dedicated fan and it'd be worth the $40 to buy the latter (can't say that for many others, though). That said, Mewtwo, Dixie, and the veteran characters we haven't seen yet (talking about Wolf and Lucas mostly) could very easily fill those four spots. I also think Ridley is overdue as well, though the four I mentioned earlier all have better chances (perhaps Ridley ''could'' get in over Lucas, since Ridley is hugely popular in the U.S. and is often resurrected in some capacity while Lucas has only been in one Japan-only game and isn't terribly popular himself). As for the Ice Climbers, I had hopes that they'd be reworked, but them not showing up means all attempts failed so far. That means no more glitches and annoying-ass chain grabs for now at least. Ah well, we'll just have to wait and see. <font face="X-Files">[[User:Blue Ninjakoopa|<span style="color:#0000a5">Blue</span>]] [[User talk:Blue Ninjakoopa|<span style="color:#0000a5">Ninjakoopa</span>]]</font> 09:46, 12 September 2014 (EDT) | ||