Editing Forum:Attempt to fix the Notable Players sections number 2
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The wiki has known this to be a problem for several years now, yet the notable players sections has continue to persist in being bloated in the character articles for every game (except for Brawl's, guess that's one upside of few people still caring about that game), and it has become quite the overwhelming problem to manage. These sections were originally made with the intention of noting each characters' "most historically significant players", not as a place to throw every pretty noteworthy player on there, however this clearly was not achieved. I blame a part of this for how poorly this idea is communicated through the title of these sections (you just need to be considered "notable" to have an article at all, how does that differ from being "notable" for these sections?), the fact the guidelines for these sections are buried in our [[SW:NOTE#Notable player guidelines|general notability policy page]] and thus most random part-time editors responsible for the bloat will never see it, and the lack of a strict limit that allows the "line" for what's acceptable to be pushed farther and farther. So I propose implementing the following: | The wiki has known this to be a problem for several years now, yet the notable players sections has continue to persist in being bloated in the character articles for every game (except for Brawl's, guess that's one upside of few people still caring about that game), and it has become quite the overwhelming problem to manage. These sections were originally made with the intention of noting each characters' "most historically significant players", not as a place to throw every pretty noteworthy player on there, however this clearly was not achieved. I blame a part of this for how poorly this idea is communicated through the title of these sections (you just need to be considered "notable" to have an article at all, how does that differ from being "notable" for these sections?), the fact the guidelines for these sections are buried in our [[SW:NOTE#Notable player guidelines|general notability policy page]] and thus most random part-time editors responsible for the bloat will never see it, and the lack of a strict limit that allows the "line" for what's acceptable to be pushed farther and farther. So I propose implementing the following: | ||
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#'''I like a lot of these suggestions'''. A hard limit is fine, but obviously for certain characters with especially strong player bases, a rise from 10 may be necessary (as was mentioned for Melee Fox). I'm okay with online results getting a bit more attention as well, at least for Melee (mainly due to having very good online and top players taking it more seriously). Ultimate is more iffy for me, but it is hard to ignore the fact that the game has had a year of (primarily) online results. [[User:PokemonMasterJamal3|PokemonMasterJamal3]] ([[User talk:PokemonMasterJamal3|talk]]) 18:49, March 25, 2021 (EDT) | #'''I like a lot of these suggestions'''. A hard limit is fine, but obviously for certain characters with especially strong player bases, a rise from 10 may be necessary (as was mentioned for Melee Fox). I'm okay with online results getting a bit more attention as well, at least for Melee (mainly due to having very good online and top players taking it more seriously). Ultimate is more iffy for me, but it is hard to ignore the fact that the game has had a year of (primarily) online results. [[User:PokemonMasterJamal3|PokemonMasterJamal3]] ([[User talk:PokemonMasterJamal3|talk]]) 18:49, March 25, 2021 (EDT) | ||
#Everything sounds good. [[User:SenorMexicano|<span style="color:#850FFA; text-shadow: 0px 0px 3px green">'''Señor'''</span> <span style="color:#850FFA;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px green">'''Mexicano'''</span>]] ''[[User talk:SenorMexicano|<span style="color:lightpurple;text-shadow:0px 0px 2px lightgreen">(talk)</span>]]'' 16:06, March 29, 2021 (EDT) | #Everything sounds good. [[User:SenorMexicano|<span style="color:#850FFA; text-shadow: 0px 0px 3px green">'''Señor'''</span> <span style="color:#850FFA;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px green">'''Mexicano'''</span>]] ''[[User talk:SenorMexicano|<span style="color:lightpurple;text-shadow:0px 0px 2px lightgreen">(talk)</span>]]'' 16:06, March 29, 2021 (EDT) | ||
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:I've seen other wikis do "proejcts" for cleanup and this wiki also has [[SmashWiki:Project]] (which haven't really been used since 2015). Perhaps a project page could be used for this? --[[User:CanvasK|CanvasK]] ([[User talk:CanvasK|talk]]) 19:04, March 30, 2021 (EDT) | :I've seen other wikis do "proejcts" for cleanup and this wiki also has [[SmashWiki:Project]] (which haven't really been used since 2015). Perhaps a project page could be used for this? --[[User:CanvasK|CanvasK]] ([[User talk:CanvasK|talk]]) 19:04, March 30, 2021 (EDT) | ||
:I think it's simply to just let people handle characters themselves as they come across them, where then anyone that objects to any of the choices can be discussed, and I plan to first go to which characters I will give an automatic default limit beyond the 10 upon the official implementation (while also pruning them in the process). I like Canvas' idea and will go make a project page too where it can be organized on which characters have been addressed and which still need to be brought in line with the new policy (which will also make for easy sitenotice linking). <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[Image: TyranitarMS.png ]] 19:32, March 30, 2021 (EDT) | :I think it's simply to just let people handle characters themselves as they come across them, where then anyone that objects to any of the choices can be discussed, and I plan to first go to which characters I will give an automatic default limit beyond the 10 upon the official implementation (while also pruning them in the process). I like Canvas' idea and will go make a project page too where it can be organized on which characters have been addressed and which still need to be brought in line with the new policy (which will also make for easy sitenotice linking). <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[Image: TyranitarMS.png ]] 19:32, March 30, 2021 (EDT) | ||