Editing Cloud (SSBU)

From SmashWiki, the Super Smash Bros. wiki
Jump to navigationJump to search
Warning You aren't logged in. While it's not a requirement to create an account, doing so makes it a lot easier to keep track of your edits and a lot harder to confuse you with someone else. If you edit without being logged in, your IP address will be recorded in the page's edit history.

The edit can be undone. Please check the comparison below to verify that this is what you want to do, and then publish the changes below to finish undoing the edit.

Latest revision Your text
Line 230: Line 230:
| shorthop=17 | rshorthop=29-30
| shorthop=17 | rshorthop=29-30
| djump=32.5 | rdjump=54-56
| djump=32.5 | rdjump=54-56
| ellag=4 | rellag=2-75
}}
}}


Line 267: Line 266:
===[[Crowd cheer]]===
===[[Crowd cheer]]===
<div class="tabber">
<div class="tabber">
<div class="tabbertab" title="English, Japanese/Chinese, Italian, Dutch, German/French">
<div class="tabbertab" title="English, Japanese/Chinese, Italian, Dutch, French">
{| class="wikitable" border="1" cellpadding="4" cellspacing="1"
{| class="wikitable" border="1" cellpadding="4" cellspacing="1"
|-
|-
Line 275: Line 274:
!Cheer (Italian)
!Cheer (Italian)
!Cheer (Dutch)
!Cheer (Dutch)
!Cheer (German/French)
!Cheer (French)
|-
|-
! scope="row"|Cheer
! scope="row"|Cheer
|[[File:Cloud Cheer English SSB4 SSBU.ogg|center]]||[[File:Cloud Cheer Japanese SSBU.ogg|center]]||[[File:Cloud Cheer Italian SSB4 SSBU.ogg|center]]||[[File:Cloud Cheer Dutch SSBU.ogg|center]]||[[File:Cloud Cheer German & French SSB4 SSBU.ogg|center]]
|[[File:Cloud Cheer English SSBU.ogg|center]]||[[File:Cloud Cheer Japanese SSBU.ogg|center]]||[[File:Cloud Cheer Italian SSBU.ogg|center]]||[[File:Cloud Cheer Dutch SSBU.ogg|center]]||{{NTSC}} [[File:Cloud Cheer French NTSC SSBU.ogg|center]] <br> {{PAL}} [[File:Cloud Cheer French PAL SSBU.ogg|center]]
|-
|-
! scope="row"|Description
! scope="row"|Description
Line 284: Line 283:
|}
|}
</div>
</div>
<div class="tabbertab" title="Spanish, Russian, Korean">
<div class="tabbertab" title="German, Spanish, Russian, Korean">
{| class="wikitable" border="1" cellpadding="4" cellspacing="1"
{| class="wikitable" border="1" cellpadding="4" cellspacing="1"
|-
|-
!
!
!Cheer (German)
!Cheer (Spanish)
!Cheer (Spanish)
!Cheer (Russian)
!Cheer (Russian)
Line 293: Line 293:
|-
|-
! scope="row"|Cheer
! scope="row"|Cheer
|[[File:Cloud Cheer Spanish SSB4 SSBU.ogg|center]]||[[File:Cloud Cheer Russian SSBU.ogg|center]]||[[File:Cloud Cheer Korean SSBU.ogg|center]]
|[[File:Cloud Cheer German SSBU.ogg|center]]||[[File:Cloud Cheer Spanish SSBU.ogg|center]]||[[File:Cloud Cheer Russian SSBU.ogg|center]]||[[File:Cloud Cheer Korean SSBU.ogg|center]]
|-
|-
! scope="row"|Description
! scope="row"|Description
|Cloud, Cloud, y na - die más! || Cloud! Cloud! || Keu - lla - u - deu!
|Cloud! *claps 2 times* || || Cloud! Cloud! || Keu - lla - u - deu!
|}
|}
</div>
</div>
Line 318: Line 318:
''See also: [[:Category:Cloud players (SSBU)]]''
''See also: [[:Category:Cloud players (SSBU)]]''


*{{Sm|CurryGovernor|UK}} - The best Cloud player in Europe, playing the character for his entire competitive career aside from a brief stint with {{SSBU|Chrom}} in the first half of 2022. His breakout event was his 7th-place finish at {{Trn|Valhalla III}}, where he defeated several notable European talent including {{Sm|Oryon}}, {{Sm|Tru4}}, and {{Sm|Peli}}. In addition to other successful performances outside his region, including 9th at {{Trn|GLORY 3}} defeating {{Sm|Chag}}, he has also placed highly at many UK events, including 2nd at {{Trn|KO: The Main Event}} defeating {{Sm|Luugi}} and 3rd at {{Trn|Invasion: January 2022}}.
*{{Sm|CurryGovernor|UK}} - The best Cloud player in Europe. He has consistently placed top 16 at tournaments in Europe, including placing 7th at the superregional {{Trn|Valhalla III}}. He has also seen success at majors, placing 25th at {{Trn|Albion 4}} and 33rd at {{Trn|VCA 2022}}.
*{{Sm|enhancedpv|USA}} - One of the best Cloud players in North America, especially during the online metagame and in 2022, eventually ranking 100th on the [[UltRank 2022]] thanks to noteworthy major performances such as 17th at {{Trn|Mainstage 2022}} and 25th at {{Trn|The Big House 10}}, defeating {{Sm|yonni}} in the former and {{Sm|Ned}} in the latter. He has seldomly attended majors since, though he had a notable run to 17th at {{Trn|Let's Make Big Moves 2023}} with a win over {{Sm|Onin}}, and continues to dominate competitive play in his region.
*{{Sm|enhancedpv|USA}} - First came to prominence in the online metagame but has since established himself as one of the best Cloud players in the United States. He has placed in the top 64 at several majors, including placing 17th at both {{Trn|Mainstage 2022}} and {{Trn|Let's Make Big Moves 2023}}, and is ranked 100th on the [[UltRank 2022]].
*{{Sm|Kola|USA}} - Although better known for his {{SSBU|Roy}}, Kola also played Cloud throughout his competitive career, especially in the early metagame and 2021 where he used Cloud as a co-main, including winning {{Trn|InfinityCON Tally 2021}} with primarily Cloud and both {{Trn|SWT: NA East Ultimate Regional Finals}} and {{Trn|CEO 2021}} using Cloud in crucial sets, in addition to placing 2nd at {{Trn|Just Roll With It! 11}} and 5th at {{Trn|2GG: Grand Tour - South Carolina}} with primarily Cloud. He has since relegated Cloud to a secondary or counterpick in matchups that are less favorable to Roy.  
*{{Sm|Kola|USA}} - Although known more for his {{SSBU|Roy}}, Kola has also used Cloud up until mid-2022. He notably won the superregional {{Trn|InfinityCON Tally 2021}} with mostly Cloud and the major {{Trn|CEO 2021}} using Cloud to defeat {{Sm|MuteAce}}.
*{{Sm|Masashi|Japan}} - The best Cloud player in Japan in the early metagame. Alongside a series of great performances at {{Trn|Sumabato}} and {{Trn|Karisuma}} events, he notably placed well at two of the largest events of the early metagame -- 25th at {{Trn|EVO Japan 2020}} and 33rd at {{Trn|EVO 2019}} -- despite an overall mixed track record at major events. He has achieved some success in the post-pandemic metagame, including placing 13th at {{Trn|Maesuma TOP 6}} and 17th at {{Trn|Maesuma TOP 9}}; however, his results became increasingly inconsistent as time went on.
*{{Sm|Masashi|Japan}} - The best Cloud player in Japan in the early metagame, notably placing well at the largest events of the year -- 25th at {{Trn|EVO Japan 2020}} and 33rd at {{Trn|EVO 2019}} -- despite an overall mixed track record. However, his results have since been on the decline.  
*{{Sm|Niko|USA}} - One of the best Cloud players in North America. He is best known for his performance at {{Trn|Lost Tech City 2022}}, where he defeated {{Sm|WaDi}}, {{Sm|MVD}}, and {{Sm|Skyjay}} to place 7th, in addition to several other noteworthy performances that year, including 17th at {{Trn|Rise 'N Grind}}, which led to him ranking 56th on the [[UltRank 2022]]. Since then, he remains mostly active in his region, with strong performances such as 13th at {{Trn|Low Tide City 2023}} and 25th at {{Trn|Rise 'N Grind 2023}}, and has only made a handful of appearances outside his region, most notably placing 13th at {{Trn|Luminosity Makes BIG Moves 2024}}.
*{{Sm|Niko|USA}} - One of the best Cloud players in the United States. He has consistently placed top 8 in his region, including placing 7th at the superregional {{Trn|Lost Tech City 2022}}. In addition, he has seen consistent top 64 placement at majors, including 17th at {{Trn|Rise 'N Grind}} and 33rd at {{Trn|Double Down 2022}}. He was ranked 56th on the [[UltRank 2022]].
*{{Sm|Sparg0|Mexico}} - One of the greatest ''Ultimate'' players of all-time and by far the greatest Cloud player of all-time, his performances greatly contributing to an improvement in Cloud's community reception. In addition to being one of the earliest successful Cloud players in competitive play, he is also the only Cloud player who remains relevant in top-level play throughout competitive ''Ultimate'', having been frequently ranked among the top 3 since the online metagame. He has won many supermajors, including {{Trn|Kagaribi 10}}, {{Trn|Watch The Throne}}, and {{Trn|Supernova 2024}}, and remains the only Cloud player to win a major.
*{{Sm|Sparg0|Mexico}} - One of the best ''Ultimate'' players of all time and the best Cloud player of all time. He has many major wins under his belt and is one of the players with the most major wins, including {{Trn|Supernova 2024}}, {{Trn|Kagaribi 10}} and {{Trn|Battle of BC 5}}.
*{{Sm|YOC|Japan}} - The best Cloud player in Japan in the post-pandemic metagame, although similar to Masashi, his major performances have also been inconsistent. His 7th-place finish at {{Trn|Maesuma TOP 8}} remains the only top 8 major finish from a primarily Cloud player other than Sparg0, and he has also placed 9th at {{Trn|Seibugeki 15}} and 13th at {{Trn|UltCore}}. In addition, YOC has several noteworthy superregional performances, having placed 5th at both {{Trn|Gen 1.0}} and {{Trn|WAVE CHAMPIONS 1}} as well as 7th at {{Trn|Gen 1.1}}, defeating {{Sm|Umeki}} in the latter event.
*{{Sm|YOC|Japan}} - The best Cloud player in Japan in the post-online metagame, although similar to Masashi his track record has also been mixed. He is the only other Cloud player aside from Sparg0 who has placed top 8 at a major with solo-Cloud, placing 7th at {{Trn|Maesuma TOP 8}}. He has also placed top 64 at several majors, including placing 13th at {{Trn|UltCore}} and 17th at {{Trn|Kagaribi 7}}.


===Tier placement and history===
===Tier placement and history===
While Cloud was initially considered to be an extremely potent character, his results initially saw a significant drop from his ''Smash 4'' days, as most of his best players either moved on from competitive ''Smash'' or dropped the character. This is due to Cloud's noticeably worse toolkit and flaws, such as inconsistencies with KOing, the shortened Limit Gauge time, his linear recovery, and his poor grab game, becoming more apparent in the new metagame. As such, players initially considered him to be amongst the lower half of mid tier, with many of his top players even agreeing that he belongs there.
While Cloud was initially considered to be an extremely potent character, his results initially saw a significant drop from his ''Smash 4'' days as most of his best players either moved on from competitive ''Smash'' or dropped the character. This is due to Cloud's noticeably worse toolkit and flaws, such as inconsistencies with KOing, the shortened Limit Gauge time, his linear recovery, and his poor grab game, becoming more apparent in the new metagame. As such, players initially considered him to be amongst the lower half of mid tier, with many of Cloud's top players even agreeing that he belongs there.


Cloud's reputation started to improve around the summer of 2019 thanks to the efforts of players such as {{Sm|Kola}} and {{Sm|Sparg0}}, both of whom managed to see consistent national-level success and wins, as well as Cloud's noteworthy buffs in update 7.0.0 which improved his KO power. This perception continued to improve during the [[COVID-19 pandemic and its impact on competitive Smash|COVID-19 pandemic]] thanks to the efforts of Sparg0, who used both Cloud and the then-newly released {{SSBU|Pyra}} and {{SSBU|Mythra}} to eventually claim the top spot on the [[Wi-Fi Warrior Rank v7]]. When offline competitive play returned, Sparg0 established himself as one of the best players in the world, eventually winning his first major at {{Trn|Smash Ultimate Summit 4}} using mostly Cloud. Since then, most of his tournament performances have been with Cloud, leading many to agree that, while he was still worse than his ''Smash 4'' counterpart, he was still just as viable in ''Ultimate''{{'}}s metagame. As such, Cloud was ranked 10th on the first tier list as a top tier character.
Cloud's reputation started to improve around the summer of 2019 thanks to the efforts of players such as {{Sm|Kola}} and {{Sm|Sparg0}}, both of whom managed to see consistent national-level success and wins, as well as Cloud's noteworthy buffs in update 7.0.0 that improved his KO power. This perception continued to improve during the [[COVID-19 pandemic and its impact on competitive Smash|COVID-19 pandemic]] thanks to the efforts of Sparg0, who used both Cloud and the then-newly released {{SSBU|Pyra}} and {{SSBU|Mythra}} to eventually claim the top spot on the [[Wi-Fi Warrior Rank v7]]. When offline competitive play returned, Sparg0 established himself as one of the best players in the world, eventually winning his first major at {{Trn|Smash Ultimate Summit 4}} using mostly Cloud. Since then, most of his tournament performances have been with Cloud, leading many to agree that, while the character was still worse than his ''Smash 4'' counterpart, he was still just as viable in ''Ultimate''{{'}}s metagame. As such, Cloud was ranked 10th on the first tier list as a top tier character.


Following the first tier list, players began questioning whether Cloud should really be considered a top tier character. These players pointed out how no other Cloud players came remotely close to Sparg0 in terms of skill level and results; {{Sm|Barnard's Loop}} noted how Sparg0 took up 50% of all Cloud results in 2023, with only one other player -- {{Sm|YOC}} -- taking up more than 5%.<ref>{{cite web|url=https://twitter.com/LoopBarnard/status/1758548672923504713|title=Cloud's representation in 2023}}</ref> In addition, Sparg0 was the only player ranked on the [[LumiRank 2023]] who primarily played Cloud, while all other players ranked with Cloud only used him as a secondary and to a lesser degree of success. On the other hand, with the metagame favoring characters with more patient and campier playstyles, players pointed out how Cloud served as a good counter to some of those characters, which was most apparent with Sparg0's flawless record against {{SSBU|Steve}} and {{SSBU|Mr. Game & Watch}} for that year. As such, even with the discourse surrounding Cloud's representation, he was ranked 13th on the second tier list as an A-tier, with the drop mainly being the result of the meteoric rise of {{SSBU|Snake}} and Mr. Game & Watch on the tier list.
Following the first tier list, players began questioning whether Cloud should really be considered a top tier character. These players pointed out how no other Cloud players came remotely close to Sparg0 in terms of skill level and results; {{Sm|Barnard's Loop}} noted how Sparg0 took up 50% of all Cloud results in 2023, with only one other player -- {{Sm|YOC}} -- taking up more than 5%.<ref>{{cite web|url=https://twitter.com/LoopBarnard/status/1758548672923504713|title=Cloud's representation in 2023}}</ref> In addition, Sparg0 was the only player ranked on the [[LumiRank 2023]] who primarily played Cloud, while all other players ranked with Cloud only used the character as a secondary and to a lesser degree of success. On the other hand, with the metagame favoring characters with more patient and campier playstyles, players pointed out how Cloud served as a good counter to some of those characters, which was most apparent with Sparg0's flawless record against {{SSBU|Steve}} and {{SSBU|Mr. Game & Watch}} for that year. As such, even with the discourse surrounding Cloud's representation he was ranked 13th on the second tier list as an A-tier, with the drop mainly being the result of the meteoric rise of {{SSBU|Snake}} and Mr. Game & Watch on the tier list.


=={{SSBU|Classic Mode}}: A Ride? Not Interested.==
=={{SSBU|Classic Mode}}: A Ride? Not Interested.==
Line 392: Line 392:


==[[Spirit]]s==
==[[Spirit]]s==
Cloud's default fighter spirit can be obtained by completing {{SSBU|Classic Mode}} as Cloud. It is also available periodically for purchase in the shop for 300 Gold, but only after Cloud has been unlocked. Unlocking Cloud in World of Light allows the player to preview the first spirit below in the Spirit List under the name "???". As a fighter spirit, it cannot be used in Spirit Battles and is purely aesthetic. This fighter spirit has an alternate version that replaces them with their artwork in ''Ultimate''. Originally, only ''Ultimate''{{'}}s render of Cloud's default appearance was available for his default fighter spirit. However, update 10.1.0 added artwork of him from ''Final Fantasy VII'' for his default fighter spirit.
Cloud's default fighter spirit can be obtained by completing {{SSBU|Classic Mode}}. It is also available periodically for purchase in the shop for 300 Gold, but only after Cloud has been unlocked. Unlocking Cloud in World of Light allows the player to preview the first spirit below in the Spirit List under the name "???". As a fighter spirit, it cannot be used in Spirit Battles and is purely aesthetic. This fighter spirit has an alternate version that replaces them with their artwork in ''Ultimate''. Originally, only ''Ultimate''{{'}}s render of Cloud's default appearance was available for his default fighter spirit. However, update 10.1.0 added artwork of him from ''Final Fantasy VII'' for his default fighter spirit.


Cloud's ''Advent Children'' outfit also has a fighter spirit of its own, available through the shop, or by completing a challenge (Smash: ''As Cloud, hit an opponent with his side special, Cross Slash, while the Limit Gauge is charged''). Unlike his default fighter spirit, his ''Advent Children'' fighter spirit only uses his ''Ultimate'' P2 render instead of also featuring alternative artwork from a previous appearance.
Cloud's ''Advent Children'' outfit also has a fighter spirit of its own, available through the shop, or by completing a challenge (Smash: ''As Cloud, hit an opponent with his side special, Cross Slash, while the Limit Gauge is charged''). Unlike his default fighter spirit, his ''Advent Children'' fighter spirit only uses his ''Ultimate'' P2 render instead of also featuring alternative artwork from a previous appearance.

Please note that all contributions to SmashWiki are considered to be released under the Attribution-ShareAlike 3.0 Unported license (see SmashWiki:Copyrights for details). Your changes will be visible immediately. Please enter a summary of your changes above.

Do not submit copyrighted work without permission!

Cancel Editing help (opens in new window)

Templates used on this page:

This page is a member of 1 meta category: