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::But to clarify, there has always been some dispute over how the borders are drawn between North and South America, however I would suggest subscribing to the "Isthmus of Panama" theory, where all nations south of the Panama Canal are deemed to be in South America. Panama itself has land on both sides of the canal but it, along with most other "central American" countries, is considered a part of North America politically-speaking. All that said, nothing stops you from creating categories for countries that don't have them yet--there's no reason to lump yourself into [[:Category:Mexican smashers]] unless you're from Mexico! --<font color="000023">'''[[User:Randall00|RJM]]'''</font> <sup>''[[User talk:Randall00|Talk]]''</sup> 21:45, 10 September 2008 (UTC)
::But to clarify, there has always been some dispute over how the borders are drawn between North and South America, however I would suggest subscribing to the "Isthmus of Panama" theory, where all nations south of the Panama Canal are deemed to be in South America. Panama itself has land on both sides of the canal but it, along with most other "central American" countries, is considered a part of North America politically-speaking. All that said, nothing stops you from creating categories for countries that don't have them yet--there's no reason to lump yourself into [[:Category:Mexican smashers]] unless you're from Mexico! --<font color="000023">'''[[User:Randall00|RJM]]'''</font> <sup>''[[User talk:Randall00|Talk]]''</sup> 21:45, 10 September 2008 (UTC)


::::Category:Central American smashers would be appropriate, imo. --[[User:Sky2042|Sky]] ([[User talk:Sky2042|t]] · [[Special:Contributions/Sky2042|c]] · [[User:Sky2042|w]]) 01:59, 11 September 2008 (UTC)
::::Category:Central American smashers would be appropriate, imo. --[[User:Sky2042|Sky]] ([[User talk:Sky2042|t]] · [[Special:Contributions/Sky2042|c]] · [[w:c:wow:User:Sky2042|w]]) 01:59, 11 September 2008 (UTC)
::::Not a continent, which is why I haven't gone that route. It's just empirically incorrect is all. Then it draws more questions as to where you draw the line between Central, North and South. Jamaica is in North America....OR IS IT?! :^) There's a good read on it at [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Borders_of_the_continents Wikipedia] for the curious. --<font color="000023">'''[[User:Randall00|RJM]]'''</font> <sup>''[[User talk:Randall00|Talk]]''</sup> 02:09, 11 September 2008 (UTC)
::::Not a continent, which is why I haven't gone that route. It's just empirically incorrect is all. Then it draws more questions as to where you draw the line between Central, North and South. Jamaica is in North America....OR IS IT?! :^) There's a good read on it at [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Borders_of_the_continents Wikipedia] for the curious. --<font color="000023">'''[[User:Randall00|RJM]]'''</font> <sup>''[[User talk:Randall00|Talk]]''</sup> 02:09, 11 September 2008 (UTC)
:::::From what I can tell, we don't have to keep strictly to continent names if the regions are large enough... As for drawing the lines, we already have Category:Mexican smashers, and so we can define North American smashers as everyone north of Mexico, than Mexican smashers, than Central American smashers from the south Mexican border to the south border of Panama, and then South America is subsequently the countries south of Panama (you'll find [[wikipedia:Risk (game)|Risk]] agrees with me ;D, save for the fact that we already have Mexican smashers). As you pointed out, Jamaica (and the other Caribbean nations) is in ambiguity - I would resolve to add one more category of :Category:Caribbean smashers, which are explicitly those smashers living on islands in the Caribbean sea. There are a few islands off the coast of Venezuela and other South American nation-states, which I would add to the South American category. I'd probably subcat Mexican smashers into Central American smashers, and then we're set. :) --[[User:Sky2042|Sky]] ([[User talk:Sky2042|t]] · [[Special:Contributions/Sky2042|c]] · [[User:Sky2042|w]]) 03:34, 19 September 2008 (UTC)
:::::From what I can tell, we don't have to keep strictly to continent names if the regions are large enough... As for drawing the lines, we already have Category:Mexican smashers, and so we can define North American smashers as everyone north of Mexico, than Mexican smashers, than Central American smashers from the south Mexican border to the south border of Panama, and then South America is subsequently the countries south of Panama (you'll find [[wikipedia:Risk (game)|Risk]] agrees with me ;D, save for the fact that we already have Mexican smashers). As you pointed out, Jamaica (and the other Caribbean nations) is in ambiguity - I would resolve to add one more category of :Category:Caribbean smashers, which are explicitly those smashers living on islands in the Caribbean sea. There are a few islands off the coast of Venezuela and other South American nation-states, which I would add to the South American category. I'd probably subcat Mexican smashers into Central American smashers, and then we're set. :) --[[User:Sky2042|Sky]] ([[User talk:Sky2042|t]] · [[Special:Contributions/Sky2042|c]] · [[w:c:wow:User:Sky2042|w]]) 03:34, 19 September 2008 (UTC)
I think some of those ideas confuse the issue beyond sensibility and we shouldn't overthink this. Mexico is ''absolutely'' in North America and nobody argues that but when you re-structure the category hierarchy like that it doesn't make  practical sense either. I think part of the confusion stems from the fact that I never created a :Category:North American smashers that would've helped better define the tree; the reason I never did was because this wiki is based in North America and a North American category would only serve as a placeholder for other categories. Which is fine, but how do you explain that to other users...ultimately, I omitted that level of the Smasher category tree, but in theory, here's a proposition for the western hemisphere that makes sense to me to clean it up a little and account for the Central America discrepancy (not all potential nations are included in the example obviously):
I think some of those ideas confuse the issue beyond sensibility and we shouldn't overthink this. Mexico is ''absolutely'' in North America and nobody argues that but when you re-structure the category hierarchy like that it doesn't make  practical sense either. I think part of the confusion stems from the fact that I never created a :Category:North American smashers that would've helped better define the tree; the reason I never did was because this wiki is based in North America and a North American category would only serve as a placeholder for other categories. Which is fine, but how do you explain that to other users...ultimately, I omitted that level of the Smasher category tree, but in theory, here's a proposition for the western hemisphere that makes sense to me to clean it up a little and account for the Central America discrepancy (not all potential nations are included in the example obviously):
*[[:Category:Smashers]]
*[[:Category:Smashers]]

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