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::But to clarify, there has always been some dispute over how the borders are drawn between North and South America, however I would suggest subscribing to the "Isthmus of Panama" theory, where all nations south of the Panama Canal are deemed to be in South America. Panama itself has land on both sides of the canal but it, along with most other "central American" countries, is considered a part of North America politically-speaking. All that said, nothing stops you from creating categories for countries that don't have them yet--there's no reason to lump yourself into [[:Category:Mexican smashers]] unless you're from Mexico! --<font color="000023">'''[[User:Randall00|RJM]]'''</font> <sup>''[[User talk:Randall00|Talk]]''</sup> 21:45, 10 September 2008 (UTC)
::But to clarify, there has always been some dispute over how the borders are drawn between North and South America, however I would suggest subscribing to the "Isthmus of Panama" theory, where all nations south of the Panama Canal are deemed to be in South America. Panama itself has land on both sides of the canal but it, along with most other "central American" countries, is considered a part of North America politically-speaking. All that said, nothing stops you from creating categories for countries that don't have them yet--there's no reason to lump yourself into [[:Category:Mexican smashers]] unless you're from Mexico! --<font color="000023">'''[[User:Randall00|RJM]]'''</font> <sup>''[[User talk:Randall00|Talk]]''</sup> 21:45, 10 September 2008 (UTC)


::::Category:Central American smashers would be appropriate, imo. --[[User:Sky2042|Sky]] ([[User talk:Sky2042|t]] · [[Special:Contributions/Sky2042|c]] · [[User:Sky2042|w]]) 01:59, 11 September 2008 (UTC)
:::[[:Category:Central American smashers]] would be appropriate, imo. --[[User:Sky2042|Sky]] ([[User talk:Sky2042|t]] · [[Special:Contributions/Sky2042|c]] · [[w:c:wow:User:Sky2042|w]]) 01:59, 11 September 2008 (UTC)
::::Not a continent, which is why I haven't gone that route. It's just empirically incorrect is all. Then it draws more questions as to where you draw the line between Central, North and South. Jamaica is in North America....OR IS IT?! :^) There's a good read on it at [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Borders_of_the_continents Wikipedia] for the curious. --<font color="000023">'''[[User:Randall00|RJM]]'''</font> <sup>''[[User talk:Randall00|Talk]]''</sup> 02:09, 11 September 2008 (UTC)
:::::From what I can tell, we don't have to keep strictly to continent names if the regions are large enough... As for drawing the lines, we already have Category:Mexican smashers, and so we can define North American smashers as everyone north of Mexico, than Mexican smashers, than Central American smashers from the south Mexican border to the south border of Panama, and then South America is subsequently the countries south of Panama (you'll find [[wikipedia:Risk (game)|Risk]] agrees with me ;D, save for the fact that we already have Mexican smashers). As you pointed out, Jamaica (and the other Caribbean nations) is in ambiguity - I would resolve to add one more category of :Category:Caribbean smashers, which are explicitly those smashers living on islands in the Caribbean sea. There are a few islands off the coast of Venezuela and other South American nation-states, which I would add to the South American category. I'd probably subcat Mexican smashers into Central American smashers, and then we're set. :) --[[User:Sky2042|Sky]] ([[User talk:Sky2042|t]] · [[Special:Contributions/Sky2042|c]] · [[User:Sky2042|w]]) 03:34, 19 September 2008 (UTC)
I think some of those ideas confuse the issue beyond sensibility and we shouldn't overthink this. Mexico is ''absolutely'' in North America and nobody argues that but when you re-structure the category hierarchy like that it doesn't make  practical sense either. I think part of the confusion stems from the fact that I never created a :Category:North American smashers that would've helped better define the tree; the reason I never did was because this wiki is based in North America and a North American category would only serve as a placeholder for other categories. Which is fine, but how do you explain that to other users...ultimately, I omitted that level of the Smasher category tree, but in theory, here's a proposition for the western hemisphere that makes sense to me to clean it up a little and account for the Central America discrepancy (not all potential nations are included in the example obviously):
*[[:Category:Smashers]]
**:Category:North American smashers
***[[:Category:Canadian smashers]]
***[[:Category:American smashers]]
***[[:Category:Mexican smashers]]
***:Category:Barbadian smashers
***:Category:Jamaican smashers
***:Category:Cuban smashers
***:Category:Central American smashers
****:Category:Belizean smashers
****:Category:Guatemalan smashers
****:Category:Nicaraguan smashers
**[[:Category:South American smashers]]
***[[:Category:Brazilian smashers]]
***[[:Category:Chilean smashers]]
***[[:Category:Peruvian smashers]]
***[[:Category:Venezuelan smashers]]
 
Having :Category:Central American smashers as a sub-category to North American smashers factors in the geopolitical divide, segregates the Central American nations so they belong to both their own category on a smasher page but behind-the-scenes it all rolls up to the :Category:North American smashers level. I don't really think that :Category:North American smashers should be placed on any smasher article unless there's a really a dispute (but only one city in the world straddles a continental border, so I don't see it being an issue). If we are to come to a consensus on this, the other categories will have to be restructured a little as well and I don't mind drawing up a little policy to work out the rest of'em too. --<font color="000023">'''[[User:Randall00|RJM]]'''</font> <sup>''[[User talk:Randall00|Talk]]''</sup> 14:54, 20 September 2008 (UTC)
 
 
 
 
Thanks for the comments, all are very, very interesting. I decided to created a new category to do more easy the task of find people in my region, all smashers must be united, we are from the same world... Smash World!!!! <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:Skylord|Skylord]] ([[User talk:Skylord|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Skylord|contribs]]) 18:09, 23 September 2008</small>

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