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Banjo & Kazooie are ranked 62nd out of 82 on the current [[tier list]], placing them in the C- tier and making them the lowest ranking characters from Fighters Pass Vol. 1. The duo have a strong projectile mixup game: their numerous projectiles such as [[Egg Firing / Breegull Blaster]] and [[Rear Egg]] grant the duo some effective setups and followup potential, with the ability to constantly knock opponents around and lead into combos if used properly. Egg Firing generates long-duration eggs that can disrupt approaches or [[gimp]] recoveries, Breegull Blaster can set up aerial combos and platform tech chases, while Rear Egg functions as the duo's main zoning and combo tool, with the niche ability to break out of combos or extend the duo's [[recovery]]. The duo's signature move [[Wonderwing]] is a long-duration dash with [[invincibility]] that is very powerful, has potential to be combo'd into, and can beat out almost every option other than [[grab]]s, giving them a safe recovery option and a powerful (albeit committal) reversal in disadvantage. Most of the duo's attacks feature [[disjointed]] hitboxes due to Kazooie, giving them some adequate range for close quarters. Their normal moveset has some effective attacks: down tilt functions as an amazing [[2 frame punish]] and [[edgeguarding]] option thanks to its long duration and range, up tilt is a powerful anti-air and KO move with low enough endlag to combo into itself at low percents, and forward air is a viable KO tool with good reach. Finally, their status as a heavyweight, along with their two midair jumps, lack of helplessness from [[Shock Spring Jump]] and ability to extend their recovery with Rear Egg, gives the duo higher-than-average survivability, and Kazooie's dash speed grants the duo surprisingly fast long-distance movement. Overall, the pair has some solid strengths to control the flow of the game. | Banjo & Kazooie are ranked 62nd out of 82 on the current [[tier list]], placing them in the C- tier and making them the lowest ranking characters from Fighters Pass Vol. 1. The duo have a strong projectile mixup game: their numerous projectiles such as [[Egg Firing / Breegull Blaster]] and [[Rear Egg]] grant the duo some effective setups and followup potential, with the ability to constantly knock opponents around and lead into combos if used properly. Egg Firing generates long-duration eggs that can disrupt approaches or [[gimp]] recoveries, Breegull Blaster can set up aerial combos and platform tech chases, while Rear Egg functions as the duo's main zoning and combo tool, with the niche ability to break out of combos or extend the duo's [[recovery]]. The duo's signature move [[Wonderwing]] is a long-duration dash with [[invincibility]] that is very powerful, has potential to be combo'd into, and can beat out almost every option other than [[grab]]s, giving them a safe recovery option and a powerful (albeit committal) reversal in disadvantage. Most of the duo's attacks feature [[disjointed]] hitboxes due to Kazooie, giving them some adequate range for close quarters. Their normal moveset has some effective attacks: down tilt functions as an amazing [[2 frame punish]] and [[edgeguarding]] option thanks to its long duration and range, up tilt is a powerful anti-air and KO move with low enough endlag to combo into itself at low percents, and forward air is a viable KO tool with good reach. Finally, their status as a heavyweight, along with their two midair jumps, lack of helplessness from [[Shock Spring Jump]] and ability to extend their recovery with Rear Egg, gives the duo higher-than-average survivability, and Kazooie's dash speed grants the duo surprisingly fast long-distance movement. Overall, the pair has some solid strengths to control the flow of the game. | ||
However, Banjo and Kazooie have some noticeable flaws. Their moveset suffers from being quite inconsistent due to problematic hitboxes, weak damage and knockback, or both, which can make general combat quite unwieldy. In addition, their frame data is generally unimpressive, with their landing lag also being rather high, which gives them limited attacks that can be thrown out in neutral. Their most intricate combos usually require a lot of technical skill, with effective usage of Rear Egg and Breegull Blaster combos being quite difficult to perform; while some can lead into Wonderwing punishes, most of these combos do extremely low damage. Finally, their damage output is relatively low, and when combined with the aforementioned problems gives them very few consistent followups or good reward for landing attacks, while also giving them few safe KO options. Combined, this means their gameplan is usually limited to winning neutral exchanges using their projectiles to get opponents to make mistakes. Their other problems include their weight, which makes them combo food for a lot of the cast, and their general movement, which is unimpressive outside of Kazooie's dash due to Banjo's slow walk speed, low traction, and poor air speed/jump height. Wonderwing is incredibly risky despite its perks, is designed to be out-prioritized by grabs, is limited to up to five feathers per stock, and is slow enough to be reacted to. Finally, the duo's grab game is passable: their grab is only average, and their pivot grab has the odd quirk of having lower range on aerial foes due to a coding error, while only back throw has the ability to directly KO, and down throw is very inconsistent despite [[bury]]ing opponents, which is unusual for a throw of its type (such as similar throws shared by {{SSBU|King K. Rool}} and {{SSBU|Snake}}). | However, Banjo and Kazooie have some noticeable flaws. Their moveset suffers from being quite inconsistent due to problematic hitboxes, weak damage and knockback, or both, which can make general combat quite unwieldy. In addition, their frame data is generally unimpressive, with their landing lag also being rather high, which gives them limited attacks that can be thrown out in neutral. Their most intricate combos usually require a lot of technical skill, with effective usage of Rear Egg and Breegull Blaster combos being quite difficult to perform; while some can lead into Wonderwing punishes, most of these combos do extremely low damage. Finally, their damage output is relatively low, and when combined with the aforementioned problems gives them very few consistent followups or good reward for landing attacks, while also giving them few safe KO options. Combined, this means their gameplan is usually limited to winning neutral exchanges using their projectiles to get opponents to make mistakes. Their other problems include their weight, which makes them combo food for a lot of the cast, and their general movement, which is unimpressive outside of Kazooie's dash due to Banjo's slow walk speed, low traction, and poor air speed/jump height. Wonderwing is incredibly risky despite its perks, is designed to be out-prioritized by grabs, is limited to up to five feathers per stock, and is slow enough to be reacted to. Finally, the duo's grab game is passable: their grab is only average, and their pivot grab has the odd quirk of having lower range on aerial foes due to a coding error, while only back throw has the ability to directly KO, and down throw is very inconsistent despite [[bury]]ing opponents, which is unusual for a throw of its type (such as similar throws shared by {{SSBU|King K.Rool}} and {{SSBU|Snake}}). | ||
Overall, Banjo and Kazooie function as an unusual mix of a heavyweight and a zoner: most of their gameplan revolves around picking openings granted by their projectiles, although their general inconsistencies tend to make them considered relatively weak for their archetype. Although Banjo and Kazooie saw minimal representation for the first few years of ''Ultimate''’s lifespan, it has since improved thanks to the efforts of dedicated mains, especially {{Sm|Toriguri}}. | Overall, Banjo and Kazooie function as an unusual mix of a heavyweight and a zoner: most of their gameplan revolves around picking openings granted by their projectiles, although their general inconsistencies tend to make them considered relatively weak for their archetype. Although Banjo and Kazooie saw minimal representation for the first few years of ''Ultimate''’s lifespan, it has since improved thanks to the efforts of dedicated mains, especially {{Sm|Toriguri}}. | ||
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|dairdesc=Kazooie's [https://banjokazooiewiki.com/wiki/Beak_Buster Beak Buster]. It is a [[stall-then-fall]] that meteor smashes at its beginning, with the later hitboxes dealing slightly diagonal vertical knockback. The move has a very weak landing hit that has little use aside from granting minimal protection. The move lasts for a fairly long time, often making off-stage use an inevitable [[self-destruct]], though it is still possible to recover if it is used from a great enough height. It is mostly useful for returning to stage quickly, as the non-meteor smashing hitbox is unable to KO past realistic percentages. The move's high landing lag (27 frames) greatly limits its combo potential on-stage. | |dairdesc=Kazooie's [https://banjokazooiewiki.com/wiki/Beak_Buster Beak Buster]. It is a [[stall-then-fall]] that meteor smashes at its beginning, with the later hitboxes dealing slightly diagonal vertical knockback. The move has a very weak landing hit that has little use aside from granting minimal protection. The move lasts for a fairly long time, often making off-stage use an inevitable [[self-destruct]], though it is still possible to recover if it is used from a great enough height. It is mostly useful for returning to stage quickly, as the non-meteor smashing hitbox is unable to KO past realistic percentages. The move's high landing lag (27 frames) greatly limits its combo potential on-stage. | ||
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|grabdesc=Banjo reaches out with his hand. Strangely, Banjo's pivot grab has noticeably shorter horizontal range against airborne opponents compared to grounded ones. | |grabdesc=Banjo reaches out with his hand. Strangely, Banjo's pivot grab has noticeably shorter horizontal range against airborne opponents compared to grounded ones. | ||
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