User talk:Miles of SmashWiki/Archive17
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I'd like to bring you to a vandal.
Henry stickmin recently vandalized Wario (PM) and Marth (PM)... And swore in his vandalism edits. (The edits are all undid) INoMed (Talk) 15:56, 25 September 2015 (EDT)
- This belongs here. Serpent∞King (talk) 20:27, 25 September 2015 (EDT)
Omega Tyrant
Is he ever coming back? - Drilly Dilly (talk) 01:40, 27 September 2015 (EDT)
These
Do you find these pages convenient with their info: this one and and this, too? - Drilly Dilly (talk) 02:21, 27 September 2015 (EDT)
- I find them useful, but they were MASSIVE vandal targets recently. (I'm not the response you were looking for... xD) INoMed (Talk) 02:33, 27 September 2015 (EDT)
- I have absolutely zero interest in Project M, and the content isn't useful for mainspace purposes either. Miles (talk) 02:50, 27 September 2015 (EDT)
About unacceptable usernames
Is a username of a person in real life who is/was greatly hated considered non-tolerable on the wiki (Adolf Hitler for example)? - Drilly Dilly (talk) 04:13, 27 September 2015 (EDT)
- You already asked another user this, and you've probably seen me ban a few people for this in the last day or two. Why are you asking again? Miles (talk) 11:51, 27 September 2015 (EDT)
- Thing is, Toomai didn't reply (yet, at least), so that's why I'm asking you considering you're very active across the wiki. I hope I didn't cause any mischief. - Drilly Dilly (talk) 15:29, 27 September 2015 (EDT)
- Would you please tell both of us why these people names are unacceptable as a username? You haven't answered yet, I'd very appreciate it. Arthur1124 (talk) 14:01, 30 September 2015 (EDT)
- Usage of a deliberately inflammatory username is a pretty blatant means of trolling. Miles (talk) 14:20, 30 September 2015 (EDT)
- No I mean, using ANY people's names as a username would be unacceptable? Arthur1124 (talk) 00:41, 10 October 2015 (EDT)
- Usage of a deliberately inflammatory username is a pretty blatant means of trolling. Miles (talk) 14:20, 30 September 2015 (EDT)
- Would you please tell both of us why these people names are unacceptable as a username? You haven't answered yet, I'd very appreciate it. Arthur1124 (talk) 14:01, 30 September 2015 (EDT)
- Thing is, Toomai didn't reply (yet, at least), so that's why I'm asking you considering you're very active across the wiki. I hope I didn't cause any mischief. - Drilly Dilly (talk) 15:29, 27 September 2015 (EDT)
Alph
Were you and Omega arguing on this page? - Drilly Dilly (talk) 15:43, 27 September 2015 (EDT)
As much as I normally doubt you...
I don't think having an extra (and far more active) bureaucrat wouldn't hurt, especially someone as experienced as you. Toomai being the only bureaucrat that's even semi-active, and even then Toomai isn't on often. Don't get me started on Porplemontage. Yeah even if people like Brian or Nutta will try and put you down, I think you should give a RfB a try. Ganonmew, The Evil Clone 15:37, 29 September 2015 (EDT)
- I'm considering it. That's all I'll say for now. Miles (talk) 17:26, 29 September 2015 (EDT)
- You seemed pretty upset when you were talking to me. - Drilly Dilly (talk) 04:38, 30 September 2015 (EDT)
Is this normal?
Nyargleblargle tagged my Userspace edit as patrolled. It was a relatively minor edit, adding Nyargleblargle into my upside down usernames. INoMed (Talk) 13:43, 30 September 2015 (EDT)
I have a request
Okay I honestly don't know who to turn to for this question so I'm asking you first, but I've grown past my Bulbaboy phase and I'd like to have my username changed to my Smash nickname Disaster Flare. Could you please change it if you're the one who does? Bulbaboy (talk) 03:33, 3 October 2015 (EDT)
- Ask Toomai. Only bureaucrats can do that. Serpent∞King (talk) 03:41, 3 October 2015 (EDT)
I have a question.
How does the Status of the Wiki change? Does a bureaucrat change it? Because we are about to get a face full of new info due to the closing of the ballot. Ganonmew, The Evil Clone 17:44, 3 October 2015 (EDT)
- For starters, please refer to SW:SWSS. Second, there's no indication that we'll hear anything about the ballot for a long time. It could close and we might hear nothing about the results for months, so don't expect news anytime soon. Miles (talk) 18:15, 3 October 2015 (EDT)
- Apologies. Ganonmew, The Evil Clone 18:27, 3 October 2015 (EDT)
- Well, not to correct either of you, but while yes, we shouldn't expect to see any DLC just yet, we also need to be ready for when they do announce it, because of the sole reason that we don't know when it'll happen, staying on our toes basically. Bulbaboy (talk) 18:29, 3 October 2015 (EDT)
- Excellent point. Ganonmew, The Evil Clone 18:35, 3 October 2015 (EDT)
- Well, not to correct either of you, but while yes, we shouldn't expect to see any DLC just yet, we also need to be ready for when they do announce it, because of the sole reason that we don't know when it'll happen, staying on our toes basically. Bulbaboy (talk) 18:29, 3 October 2015 (EDT)
- Apologies. Ganonmew, The Evil Clone 18:27, 3 October 2015 (EDT)
Are we ever going to get those 3DS trophy images?
They've been missing for a while now... Serpent∞King (talk) 00:45, 7 October 2015 (EDT)
- Not sure why. We got clean rips of the 3DS trophy images and congratulations screens for Mewtwo; I have no idea what the holdup is on the three characters from June. Miles (talk) 00:47, 7 October 2015 (EDT)
- How do we usually get them? Serpent∞King (talk) 22:35, 7 October 2015 (EDT)
- It varies; I would expect them to have been updated on sites like The Spriters Resource by now, like Random Talking Bush had been doing on the Wii U side of things. Apparently nobody has done so, either due to lack of interest or some kind of difficulty in accessing 3DS update data. Miles (talk) 22:45, 7 October 2015 (EDT)
- Yeah, I was just checking that and I stumbled across this. I would say that these are probably all wii u though. Serpent∞King (talk) 22:48, 7 October 2015 (EDT)
- It varies; I would expect them to have been updated on sites like The Spriters Resource by now, like Random Talking Bush had been doing on the Wii U side of things. Apparently nobody has done so, either due to lack of interest or some kind of difficulty in accessing 3DS update data. Miles (talk) 22:45, 7 October 2015 (EDT)
- How do we usually get them? Serpent∞King (talk) 22:35, 7 October 2015 (EDT)
I just left a comment here, so we'll have to see what happens over the next couple of days. Maybe it'll be added? Serpent∞King (talk) 19:53, 8 October 2015 (EDT)
- Hopefully. Miles (talk) 20:05, 8 October 2015 (EDT)
- Update on this: I got a response from the uploader (I PM'd), referring me to someone else. I have already PM'd them and I'm currently awaiting a response. Hopefully the wild goose chase ends here. Serpent∞King (talk) 20:13, 9 October 2015 (EDT)
Ok so the problem apparently is that it's not known how to rip from 3DS update data. In other words, the update manifest has been obtained, but it's unknown how to rip from it. Serpent∞King (talk) 19:24, 10 October 2015 (EDT)
- At this point, I think our best bet is getting a direct screenshot from someone with a New 3DS. Nyargleblargle (Talk · Contribs) 20:22, 10 October 2015 (EDT)
- Agree'd. takers? Serpent∞King (talk) 20:34, 10 October 2015 (EDT)
oh hey
You main Luigi in Melee too? Neat. Definitely one of the more chaotic characters in the game. Serpent∞King (talk) 04:23, 8 October 2015 (EDT)
Changes to shield mechanics
Where can I upload a page where I regard how the characters get changed by the new shield mechanics? Does it have to be on the forum? Or where else? --BeepYou (talk) 19:45, 8 October 2015 (EDT)
- If the change is legit, these can be listed on each individual characters' "Changes from Brawl" section. Serpent∞King (talk) 19:55, 8 October 2015 (EDT)
- I meant to express my opinion on how characters have been changed due to that. We've already finished putting how shields buffed characters like Bowser and nerfed ones like Diddy. And yep, the changes seem legit. For example, this. --BeepYou (talk) 20:00, 8 October 2015 (EDT)
- Generally, I don't have a strong preference between covering such changes on individual character pages if their metagame is affected drastically versus covering it on the 1.1.1 changelog page. What I will say is that I think many users would benefit from reading this guide I made about how to discuss changes to a character neutrally and encyclopedically. Miles (talk) 20:05, 8 October 2015 (EDT)
- I meant to express my opinion on how characters have been changed due to that. We've already finished putting how shields buffed characters like Bowser and nerfed ones like Diddy. And yep, the changes seem legit. For example, this. --BeepYou (talk) 20:00, 8 October 2015 (EDT)
So...
Isn't a 3 month ban a little excessive for a first time vandal (especially when the edit could be good faith)? Serpent∞King (talk) 04:12, 12 October 2015 (EDT)
- We've had nearly identical false-info vandalism a lot lately, much of which looks like the same person. Take a skim through the block log and the contributions of IPs and users blocked for false information recently. Miles (talk) 04:28, 12 October 2015 (EDT)
We have a troll/vandal/Hee-man fan that needs dealt with.
The name is John1887363. (Not the trustworthy John3637881) INoMed (Talk) 02:29, 13 October 2015 (EDT)
- There's also a ton of troll pages that need deleted. Serpent∞King (talk) 02:32, 13 October 2015 (EDT)
- I think I got them all. Sorry I didn't refresh Recent Changes sooner. :/ Miles (talk) 02:36, 13 October 2015 (EDT)
- I also suspect sock-puppetry + IP changing. Serpent∞King (talk) 02:37, 13 October 2015 (EDT)
- Me too. INoMed (Talk) 02:43, 13 October 2015 (EDT)
- I also suspect either sockpuppetry or simply following the actions of an earlier vandal (i.e. the Katy Perry and Miley Cyrus thing) Ganonmew, The Evil Clone 15:45, 13 October 2015 (EDT)
- I also suspect sock-puppetry + IP changing. Serpent∞King (talk) 02:37, 13 October 2015 (EDT)
- I think I got them all. Sorry I didn't refresh Recent Changes sooner. :/ Miles (talk) 02:36, 13 October 2015 (EDT)
You said you wanted a source
Here you go. (I know, it's Gematsu, but that's what Wikipedia has.) Aidan, Master of Speed and Aura 18:40, 13 October 2015 (EDT)
Smasher:SmashWiki
Why "no appropriate information"? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Thissucksonice! (talk • contribs)
What's up with all the vandalism lately?
It seems to be attacking us now more than ever. Wish there was something we could do to solve the problem more permanently Serpent∞King (talk) 02:47, 16 October 2015 (EDT)
- Got me. That is the inherent risk in a site being openly editable, frustrating as it can get sometimes. Miles (talk) 02:49, 16 October 2015 (EDT)
- Sorry for me not helping out, I was snoozing. INoMed (Talk • Contribs) 05:19, 16 October 2015 (EDT)
- This might seem extreme, but it seems to be reaching SmashWikia levels of vandalism. This might be really extreme, but we might need Porplemontage to solve this if it gets worse. Ganonmew, The Evil Clone 16:08, 16 October 2015 (EDT)
- I don't think it's that extreme. Aside from a few slip-ups, I feel as though Miles and I are usually able to handle things and block vandals relatively quickly. The only problem really seems to be in the morning GMT, where we're both offline and unable to block vandals for a few hours. Nyargleblargle (Talk · Contribs) 16:14, 16 October 2015 (EDT)
- Yeah, just a thought, but we may need another person of your rank who's up that early in order to better combat them. Just a suggestion. Disaster Flare (talk) 16:16, 16 October 2015 (EDT)
- I can fight the vandals thanks to my rollback powers, and my british life. INoMed (Talk • Contribs) 16:17, 16 October 2015 (EDT)
- Well he's up already. :/ Ganonmew, The Evil Clone 21:02, 16 October 2015 (EDT)
- What? Serpent∞King (talk) 21:11, 16 October 2015 (EDT)
- Yeah, just a thought, but we may need another person of your rank who's up that early in order to better combat them. Just a suggestion. Disaster Flare (talk) 16:16, 16 October 2015 (EDT)
- I don't think it's that extreme. Aside from a few slip-ups, I feel as though Miles and I are usually able to handle things and block vandals relatively quickly. The only problem really seems to be in the morning GMT, where we're both offline and unable to block vandals for a few hours. Nyargleblargle (Talk · Contribs) 16:14, 16 October 2015 (EDT)
We need a compromise on how a section should be worded!
Hey, sorry to bother you on something kind of trivial, but we need a compromise on how the Attributes section of the Roy article should be worded. This shows what my edits were on the left, and the other user's edits on the right. I was trying give the section a neutral tone, as well as reduce the redundancy and run-on sentences. He reverted my edit without without an explanation. Disagreeing with the revision, I notified the user about this several times, but never got an explanation. After almost a month, I tried doing it again, as well as fixing a potentially misleading trivia point. My edit was reverted once again without any real explanation. I tried again to notify the user but didn't get an answer. Since this second revert, there have been multiple changes to the section, but I still feel my version was the best in terms of grammar, lack of redundancy, and neutral tone. Would you mind checking all of this over and determining what should be done? Thanks. John PK SMAAAASH!! 12:13, 16 October 2015 (EDT)
- Your version does seem to be better; I think more users could benefit from reading this guide I made about how to discuss a character neutrally and encyclopedically. Miles (talk) 12:47, 16 October 2015 (EDT)
- You say that, yet there are several other pages that fit under that category of "needs to be less judgemental". Aidan, Master of Speed and Aura 12:59, 16 October 2015 (EDT)
- And they should be tagged and/or improved accordingly as well, and once improved, maintained. Miles (talk) 13:48, 16 October 2015 (EDT)
- I think there should be a policy about a neutral tone in articles (not unlike what makes good trivia or whether a smasher gets an article or not), and then make the template to notify people about this. Aidan, Master of Speed and Aura 14:08, 16 October 2015 (EDT)
- That's a good idea! There are way too many opinionated articles on the wiki. But as for the compromise I proposed, what should/will be done about that? John PK SMAAAASH!! 14:17, 16 October 2015 (EDT)
- I think there should be a policy about a neutral tone in articles (not unlike what makes good trivia or whether a smasher gets an article or not), and then make the template to notify people about this. Aidan, Master of Speed and Aura 14:08, 16 October 2015 (EDT)
- And they should be tagged and/or improved accordingly as well, and once improved, maintained. Miles (talk) 13:48, 16 October 2015 (EDT)
- So, what will you do about this edit controversy? You said that my version seemed better, but I'll wait for you or another admin to resolve the issue. John PK SMAAAASH!! 12:36, 18 October 2015 (EDT)
- You say that, yet there are several other pages that fit under that category of "needs to be less judgemental". Aidan, Master of Speed and Aura 12:59, 16 October 2015 (EDT)
About the neutral tone guide
I'll try and convert pages soon, starting with those that I've edited before. May I? Drill Blaster Mark 2 (talk) 15:54, 17 October 2015 (EDT)
- You don't need to wait for the guide to be made "official" to work on improving tone. The only thing I will say is to keep in mind that you want to make an effort to retain good information while filtering out overly opinionated phrasings. Miles (talk) 15:58, 17 October 2015 (EDT)
- Got it. Thanks for clearing that out. Drill Blaster Mark 2 (talk) 16:00, 17 October 2015 (EDT)
About the Tone template prototype
Do you mind adding a "the editor who added this tag elaborates:" optional message to your template:tone prototype? (Decline if you think this is a bad idea) INoMed (Talk • Contribs) 13:08, 18 October 2015 (EDT)
- Already there, just doesn't display unless used (same as how it doesn't show on {{cleanup}} itself, but does on pages). The phrasing is "The editor who added this tag suggested the following improvement(s): [input]". Miles (talk) 13:12, 18 October 2015 (EDT)
Massive edit? I thought I only added one thing in the trivia?
Or am I misunderstanding? Unowninator (talk) 02:01, 19 October 2015 (EDT)
- You are Serpent∞King (talk) 02:13, 19 October 2015 (EDT)
What exactly am I looking at? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Unowninator (talk • contribs) 02:33, 19 October 2015 (EDT)
- The diff page for your edit. That is everything that you changed. Serpent∞King (talk) 02:33, 19 October 2015 (EDT)
Wow, I've no idea why that happened. Whoops. Should I try it again?