Talk:Lightning Kick

Deletion

I think we should delete this and replace it with a disambig page to moveset subpages. If I recall correctly, this page was only really created because, with the Knee Smash, it was the only other normal move with an in-game official name. Now that we have multiple other moves with this property (Cover Fire, Justice Sword, S3), we need to pick which side of the fence to be on - and unlike the knee, I think this falls on the "not notable by itself" side. Toomai Glittershine The Researcher 12:25, 29 October 2014 (EDT)

Unless if there is any notability that can be salvaged, I'll support this. I have played as Zelda a few times, and I simply considered this move as nothing special; just a normal, albeit strong, move. Berrenta (talk) 13:08, 29 October 2014 (EDT)

I don't think it is fair to delete this one and keep the Knee Smash, but I support if both of them are deleted. For me, it is either all or none. Tepig (talk) 13:47, 29 October 2014 (EDT)

As a note, it is one of the strongest aerials in the game, and also Zelda's strongest move. As stated in the article, it's also among the few aerials which can reliably be used as a KO move. It's also unique in that Zelda's Fair and Bair are simply two variations of the same move. I don't think it should be deleted, and as Tepig hinted to, I also don't think keeping just one of them is right. Opposed deletion. PainLesS (talk) 15:55, 7 November 2014 (EST)

One, use the preview button. Second, I'm neutral about this. While it is somewhat notable in being one of Zelda's strongest moves, we don't really have that many pages about other character's forward/back aerials. Unless we create pages for them, or we did and I just didn't know about them, then… I don't know what to do with this page. Rtzxy Reflect!!! 16:06, 7 November 2014 (EST)

Um, who says it has to be deleted? Just rename it Zelda (SSBwhatever)/Forward aerial. RoyboyX Talk 20:07, 7 November 2014 (EST)

Or replace it with a disambiguation page, since Zelda has this in every game. --Menshay (talk) 13:08, 8 November 2014 (EST)

Yes of course as I said above it would be replaced with "a disambig page to moveset subpages". But the page wouldn't stay in its current form. Toomai Glittershine The Quiet 13:19, 8 November 2014 (EST)

I oppose deletion unless we also delete Knee Smash. If this deletion passes I'm going to start a deletion request for Knee Smash actually ---Preceding unsigned comment added by you. Or maybe Nutta. 13:20, 8 November 2014 (EST)

The knee is far too memetic and notable to be deleted. This isn't, and is exactly why I proposed its deletion. Toomai Glittershine The Awesome 13:22, 8 November 2014 (EST)

I support this due to the fact that normal attacks generally do not have their own pages. However, the content of the page shouldn't simply be lost; a merge (or split merges) with other pages might be in order. ♡FirstaLasto♥ 13:26, 8 November 2014 (EST)

I support deletion. Only the Mario Tornado should have an article and not Zelda's bair and fair moves. --Tailikku (talk) 23:49, 21 November 2014 (EST)

Of course, I use it, but it doesn't guarantee no further edits. Anyway, since there is info on the move, it makes zero sense deleting the article. PainLesS (talk) 10:00, 9 November 2014 (EST)

• Oppose: Both Knee Smash and Lightning Kick ought to be kept. Both have competitive coverage and in-game special recognition. --Mr. Guye (talk) 13:39, 2 January 2015 (EST)

Darkelf64: I oppose to the deletion since although it may be out of date there are still people who want to learn these things.

a strong OPPOSE! because of Mr. Guye's reasons (Smashworker101 (talk) 17:50, 7 January 2015 (EST))

Support Lightning Kick is nowhere near as famous as the Knee Smash. In addition, once we made the moveset subpages for these, it will cover a lot more information than a lone article will. Dots (talk) The Mr. Saturn 11:55, 10 January 2015 (EST)

Smashworker101, please do not use the <big> tags, as they disrupt the normal spacing between rows of text and it is just obnoxious. As such, I have removed the tags. BRAWLS OF FURY 00:40, 11 January 2015 (EST)

Names of other non-special moves

"Lightning Kick" and "Knee Smash" are both used in the Nintendo Power player's guide for Melee. All the other moves are given names as well (with the exception of edge and floor recovery attacks). Since the two moves I mentioned here are also confirmed on in-game trophies, and Nintendo Power was a part of Nintendo of America, then there's no reason to believe the other move names aren't official as well. I still have the player's guide so I could add the move names to each character page, unless there is some other reason names aren't wanted (because I am wondering why no one has provided them yet - although they did exist on Mewtwo's page at one point). SeraphStar (talk) 23:11, 22 January 2018 (EST)

This has been a long-standing issue, which I have grown quite sick of. I'm going to end it now by casting a vote-discussion in the forum. What's decided there will be the new standard. By the way, can anyone confirm whether or not the Prima names and the Power names are the same? Serpent  King 23:28, 22 January 2018 (EST)

They are different. I noticed that especially the older Prima guides for early 2000s games like Melee are much more inaccurate as well, which is why I think we should nix the names for non-special moves if they come from only third party sources. Nergal06 (talk) 23:34, 22 January 2018 (EST)