Ganondorf (SSBU)/Neutral special

Ganondorf neutral special hitbox visualizations.
Grounded	Aerial
Grounded reversed	Aerial reversed

Overview

Ganondorf charges darkness into his left hand before delivering a devastating back-handed punch. This move may be appealing to use due to it being among the strongest attacks in the game, though its potential is dashed due to its considerable startup and endlag. Despite dealing heavy shield damage and Ganon being able to reverse the attack, nearby opponents who are conservative with their shield play will likely be able to punish him and follow up. This will cause him to be put in a disadvantage state, causing him to waste momentum. As a result, most players consider this attack to be his worst special move, and by extension, his worst move overall.

Hitboxes

Landing any hitbox produces a Special Zoom.

Grounded

ID	Part	Rehit rate	Damage	SD	Angle	Angle type	BK	KS	FKV	Set weight	Radius	Bone	Offset			H×	SDI×	T%	Clang	Rebound	Effect	Type	G	A	Sound	Direct	Hit bits	Hit part	Blockable	Reflectable	Absorbable	Flinchless	No GFX	Heedless
Normal
0	0	0	30.0%	0		Forward	120	46	0		5.0	shoulderl	2.4	0.0	0.0	1.0×	1.0×	0%							Kick		All	All
1	0	0	30.0%	0		Forward	120	46	0		4.7	bust	0.0	1.0	1.0	1.0×	1.0×	0%							Kick		All	All
2	0	0	30.0%	0		Forward	120	46	0		4.8	arml	5.0	0.0	0.0	1.0×	1.0×	0%							Kick		All	All
Reversed
0	0	0	37.0%	0		Forward	30	100	0		5.0	shoulderl	2.4	0.0	0.0	1.0×	1.0×	0%							Kick		All	All
1	0	0	37.0%	0		Forward	30	100	0		4.7	bust	0.0	1.0	1.0	1.0×	1.0×	0%							Kick		All	All
2	0	0	37.0%	0		Forward	30	100	0		4.8	arml	5.0	0.0	0.0	1.0×	1.0×	0%							Kick		All	All

Aerial

ID	Part	Rehit rate	Damage	SD	Angle	Angle type	BK	KS	FKV	Set weight	Radius	Bone	Offset			H×	SDI×	T%	Clang	Rebound	Effect	Type	G	A	Sound	Direct	Hit bits	Hit part	Blockable	Reflectable	Absorbable	Flinchless	No GFX	Heedless
Normal
0	0	0	38.0%	0		Forward	30	100	0		5.0	shoulderl	2.4	0.0	0.0	1.0×	1.0×	0%							Kick		All	All
1	0	0	38.0%	0		Forward	30	100	0		4.7	bust	0.0	1.0	1.0	1.0×	1.0×	0%							Kick		All	All
2	0	0	38.0%	0		Forward	30	100	0		4.8	arml	5.0	0.0	0.0	1.0×	1.0×	0%							Kick		All	All
Reversed
0	0	0	40.0%	0		Forward	40	100	0		5.0	shoulderl	2.4	0.0	0.0	1.0×	1.0×	0%							Kick		All	All
1	0	0	40.0%	0		Forward	40	100	0		4.7	bust	0.0	1.0	1.0	1.0×	1.0×	0%							Kick		All	All
2	0	0	40.0%	0		Forward	40	100	0		4.8	arml	5.0	0.0	0.0	1.0×	1.0×	0%							Kick		All	All

Differences for Kirby's Copy Ability

• The hitboxes have different offsets (2.4u → 1.5u (ID 0 X offset), 0u/1u/1u → 1.1u/-0.3u/-0.4u (ID 1 X/Y/Z), 5u/0u/0u → 1u/-4u/1u (ID 2 X/Y/Z)), better matching Kirby's proportions.
  • The reverse versions' ID 0 and 2 hitboxes are also assigned to the opposite bones ("shoulderl"/"arml" → "shoulderr"/"armr"), due to Kirby having stance mirroring unlike Ganondorf.

Timing

Normal

The move can be reversed on frame 11. For the aerial version, the control stick is checked on frame 66 to apply vertical momentum in the chosen direction.

Super armor (grounded only)	11-67
Hitbox	70-73
Interruptible	118
Animation length	130

Hitboxes
Grounded only

Reversed

For the aerial version, the control stick is checked on frame 76 to apply vertical momentum in the chosen direction.

Transition start	11
Turnaround	21
Super armor (grounded only)	21-74
Hitbox	80-83
Interruptible	128
Animation length	140

Hitboxes
Grounded only

Legend (1 square = 1 frame)

Lag time

Hitbox

Vulnerable

State change

Armour

Interruptible

Parameters

Move

Momentum forward	0.8
Vertical boost in midair by stick input	0.5
Travel angle with vertical boost	45°

Special Zoom

Duration	40 frames (Ganondorf) 35 frames (Kirby)
Slowdown magnitude	2
Zoom rate	4 (Ganondorf) 3.5 (Kirby)
Time before zoom	3 frames
Background duration (non-1v1)	30 frames

Ganondorf's moveset

Neutral attack · Forward tilt · Up tilt · Down tilt · Dash attack · Forward smash · Up smash · Down smash
Neutral aerial · Forward aerial · Back aerial · Up aerial · Down aerial
Grab · Pummel · Forward throw · Back throw · Up throw · Down throw
Forward roll · Back roll · Spot dodge · Air dodge · Techs
Floor attack (front) · Floor getups (front) · Floor attack (back) · Floor getups (back) · Floor attack (trip) · Floor getups (trip)
Edge attack · Edge getups
Neutral special · Side special · Up special · Down special · Final Smash