Ice Climbers in Project M and Project+ | |
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Universe | Ice Climber |
Base game appearance | Brawl |
Moveset inspiration | Ice Climbers (SSBM), Ice Climbers (SSBB) |
Alternate costume | Polar Bear Climbers |
The Ice Climbers are a playable character in the Brawl mod Project M.
The Ice Climbers rank 28th out of 41 on the tier list, close to the bottom of B tier and a decent drop from their placements in Melee and Brawl, where their positions were 7th out of 26 and 2nd out of 38, respectively.
Attributes
Ice Climbers is a character consisting of two characters, Popo and Nana. The player controls Popo, and Nana will copy the player's movements under normal circumstances. In "Project M", the Ice Climbers can no longer perform their infamous Chain Grab combos, and instead focus more on combat. Ice Climbers are capable of dealing substantial amounts of damage; Nana will copy the player's move and has the same damage output, effectively doubling their damage output while both Climbers are alive if both attacks hit.
However, one of the Ice Climbers' biggest strengths is also their biggest weakness. A lot of their attacks are a lot better when both Popo and Nana are present, so if Nana is KO'd, the player's options are limited. The biggest disadvantage Ice Climbers has after Nana is defeated is their Recovery, Belay, which only gives Popo a small vertical boost if Nana isn't part of the move, making Popo much more susceptible to Gimping.
Changes from Melee to PM
The Ice Climbers have been modified to focus more on desynching and standard combat rather than on their grab infinites from Brawl and Melee. This is an overall nerf as wobbling and grab infinites previously contributed to their success at a competitive scene. Nevertheless, the Ice Climbers still benefit from some chaingrabbing, as seen here. To compensate, however, they have both been made slightly more competent at fighting on their own, without the aid of their partner.
Attributes
- Retain a nerfed version of Brawl's desynching. This greatly improves their approach options and their offensive game.
- The AI-controlled partner is much more efficient at recovering when alone, allowing them to live longer horizontally.
- Retain the mechanic from Brawl where both Climbers can grab the ledge at once.
- The AI-controlled partner will now always perform an up throw while in the middle of the stage and throw away from the stage when near edges, allowing for consistent follow-ups when the partner lands a grab.
- Most hammer attacks have had their hitboxes resized and/or moved to reach the end of their hammers.
- Can no longer wobble.
- Freeze glitch has been removed.
- By holding a shield button at the start of a match, one can play as a solo Ice Climber.
Ground Attacks
- Up tilt links better and hits faster.
Special Moves
- Blizzard deals slightly more damage and uses its larger Brawl size.
Revisions
v3.0
- All throws (up, down, forward, and back) release points adjusted to be closer to Melee.
- Forward throw hitlag increased.
- Up throw hitlag increased.
v3.5
- Shield size increased from 7.5 to 8.5.
- Down smash deals more damage.
- It can no longer trip opponents.
- Ice Shot has shorter duration.
- Belay deals more knockback.
- Nana now spot dodges on the same frame Popo does.
v3.6
Beta
A glitch involving their walk momentum has been corrected.
Full
Nana now attempts to use Belay for recovery.
Moveset
Up to date as of version 3.6.
Note: The damage is based off one Ice Climber, due to both of them having the same damage output.
Name | Damage | Description | ||
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Neutral attack | 2% | Each Ice Climber does a horizontal swipe with their hammers followed by an upward swing. | ||
4% | ||||
Forward tilt | 8% | Each Ice Climber does a side swing with their hammer, covering a long reach. This move can also be aimed up or down. | ||
Up tilt | 1% (hits 1-7), 3% (hit 8) | Each Ice Climber spins their hammer above their heads numerous times, dealing multiple hits. A good finisher when both Ice Climbers are present. | ||
Down tilt | 5% | Each Ice Climber swings their hammers low across the ground. | ||
Dash attack | 9% | Each Ice Climber sweeps upwards with their hammer while coming to a stop, launching the opponents upwards. | ||
Forward smash | 14% (hammer), 10% (arm) | Each Ice Climber lifts their hammers over their heads, then smashes them straight down. A good finisher when both Ice Climbers are present. | ||
Up smash | 11% | Each Ice Climber does an overhead swing with their hammers. | ||
Down smash | 12% | Each Ice Climber fully sweeps the ground around them with their hammers. | ||
Neutral aerial | 8% | Each Ice Climber spins around their hammer, hitting anyone near. | ||
Forward aerial | 13% (hammer), 11% (handle), 12% (body) | Each Ice Climber holds their hammers up, then bring them down in a similar fashion to their forward smash. Meteor smashes opponents who comes in contact with the handle, but is often hard to maneuver when both Ice Climbers are present. Overall an excellent finisher, especially with both Ice Climbers present. | ||
Back aerial | 12% (hammer), 11% (handle) | Each Ice Climber performs a backwards swing with their hammers. | ||
Up aerial | 9% (clean), 7% (late) | Each Ice Climber thrusts their hammer upwards. Acts similarly to their up tilt, but with only one hitbox per Ice Climber. | ||
Down aerial | 9% | Each Ice Climber holds their hammers below themselves and fall downwards. The attack overall lasts for a long duration and has some landing lag (though L-cancelling helps). | ||
Grab | — | One Ice Climber grabs the opponent. | ||
Pummel | 2% | The grabbing Ice Climber hits the opponent with a headbutt, whereas the player has some control over the partner while pummeling. | ||
Forward throw | 6% (hit 1), 5% (throw) | The grabbing Ice Climber hits the opponent forward with a hammer swing. | ||
Back throw | 7% | The grabbing Ice Climber flings the opponent behind with one hand. | ||
Up throw | 6% (hit 1), 5% (throw) | The grabbing Ice Climber throws their opponent upwards, hitting them with an overhead hammer swing. | ||
Down throw | 6% | The grabbing Ice Climber spins once then throws the opponent onto the ground. | ||
Floor attack (front) | 6% | Each Ice Climber gets up and spins their hammers. | ||
Floor attack (back) | 6% | Each Ice Climber gets up and swipes their hammers on both sides. | ||
Floor attack (trip) | 5% | Each Ice Climber gets up and spins around, hitting with their hammers. | ||
Edge attack (fast) | 8% (hammer), 6% (body) | Each Ice Climber quickly climbs up and slams their hammers on the ground. | ||
Edge attack (slow) | 10% (hammer), 8% (body) | Each Ice Climber slowly climbs up and swipes their hammer forward. | ||
Neutral special | Ice Shot | 9% (hammer), 1-5% (ice) | Each Ice Climber fires a block of ice that travel along the ground, bouncing off walls. The icicle melts and loses power over time. The Ice Climbers will gain a slight boost upwards when used in midair. | |
Side special | Squall Hammer | 2% (loop hits) | Both Ice Climbers spin around together while moving along the ground, both their hammers extended. This move can also be used as a recovery move by mashing the B button, which can cover more horizontal and vertical distance. It gains more distance when both Ice Climbers are present. | |
Up special | Belay | 16% | The leading Ice Climber throws the partner in the air with a rope. The partner then pulls the leader upwards, covering great vertical distance. If there is a nearby edge, the partner will target it, leading to a safe recovery for both Ice Climbers. If there is only one Climber present when performing this move, they will get a small hop, then fall into helplessness. | |
Down special | Blizzard | 1-2% | Each Ice Climbers blows icy wind from their hands, damaging nearby opponents. When the move is used on the ground, the partner will shoot in the direction opposite of the leader. This move is mostly used for racking up damage. | |
Final Smash | Iceberg | 2% (loop hits), 5% (frozen) | The Ice Climbers summon a huge Iceberg into the middle of the stage. The iceberg can damage and freeze any opponents who makes contact with it. This Final Smash lasts for about 11 seconds. |
In competitive play
Notable players
Alternate costumes
The Ice Climbers received a costume based on the Polar Bear.
Playable characters in Project M and Project+ | |
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Playable characters | Bowser (Giga Bowser) · Captain Falcon · Charizard · Diddy Kong · Donkey Kong · Falco · Fox · Ganondorf · Ice Climbers · Ike · Ivysaur · Jigglypuff · King Dedede · Kirby · Knuckles · Link · Lucario · Lucas · Luigi · Mario · Marth · Meta Knight · Mewtwo · Mr. Game & Watch · Ness · Olimar · Peach · Pikachu · Pit · R.O.B. · Roy · Samus · Sheik · Snake · Sonic · Squirtle · Toon Link · Wario (Wario-Man) · Wolf · Yoshi · Zelda · Zero Suit Samus |