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so uh

How are we supposed to get move names if we don't make them up? Nintendo has an awful track record of normal attack localizations (heck, only SSB64 has names for full movesets even in Japanese). Toomai Glittershine The Xanthic 23:28, 27 September 2014 (EDT)

Normal attacks shouldn't have names anywhere. I'm baffled why people keep inventing them. Miles (talk) 23:29, 27 September 2014 (EDT)

SSB64 movesets have names. Stuff like the Knee Smash, Lightning Kicks, and Cover Fire (from SSB4-3DS trophy) have names. The SSBM player's guide has names (most were pretty bad, but they're there); dunno if other guides do. What are we gonna do, have movesets full of half-named (unchanged from previous games) and half-unnamed moves? Toomai Glittershine The Golden 23:37, 27 September 2014 (EDT)

Give the names for SSB64 and Melee from the sources you listed, and for individual moves that have names in trophy descriptions like Knee Smash we can give those names too. Beyond that, though, I'd say Brawl and SSB4 movelists shouldn't try to invent names. Miles (talk) 23:42, 27 September 2014 (EDT)

It just occured to me - why are you so against moves having names when you didn't even bat an eye at things like "spaceshifting wormhole", "amaranthine gas", "thorn helix", or even the Coin Launcher enemies? Toomai Glittershine The Metroid 11:09, 10 October 2014 (EDT)

Because elements that warrant a page of their own have to have a concise title for purposes of navigation. Elements that don't, like individual A moves, don't need that. The only pages we make for those are algorithmically named as part of the moveset subpage project. Miles (talk) 14:07, 10 October 2014 (EDT)

Glitch

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RC1Lr-plMW4 i'm sure it's a giltch. Igor The Mii (talk) 16:55, 28 September 2014 (EDT)

Yes? Why are you posting about it on my talk page? Just go ahead and add appropriately to the Counter page regarding this glitch. Miles (talk) 16:59, 28 September 2014 (EDT)

Metroid item collect theme

The music starts completely differently. The NES version has one note held out before the shared parts, while the FDS version has multiple, shorter notes. I don't believe that's very minor, as they start completely differently. PikaSamus (talk) 12:37, 29 September 2014 (EDT)

I'm not sure I can ever hear the distinction you're making. Miles (talk) 12:42, 29 September 2014 (EDT)

I messed up there. The NES version has a long note at the beginning while the FDS version has a shorter note. PikaSamus (talk) 12:48, 29 September 2014 (EDT)

One tone being very slightly longer is not a major difference. Miles (talk) 12:52, 29 September 2014 (EDT)

In the second note, it goes down in pitch in the NES but up in pitch in the FDS. PikaSamus (talk) 14:20, 29 September 2014 (EDT)

It sounds like you're fishing for differences in inconsequentially different versions of the same jingle. Miles (talk) 14:29, 29 September 2014 (EDT)

I still stand by my belief that they are different. Sure, they may end the same, but they start differently. PikaSamus (talk) 14:37, 29 September 2014 (EDT)

Information on Coil page

Adding Robot Master weaknesses isn't a major part of history. It's just a piece a trivia you add for someone who's interested. 184.44.3.106 12:33, 30 September 2014 (EDT)

The rock-paper-scissors nature of Mega Man boss weapons is a major element of the gameplay of the series, and by far the most important usage of most boss weapons is against other Robot Masters who are vulnerable to them. It's a very notable element of the weapon's history. Miles (talk) 13:00, 30 September 2014 (EDT)

It's tacked on. Just adding "Oh and this is his weakness" is pretty bad editing. If you want to add that kind of stuff make a history section or something. 184.44.3.106 13:07, 30 September 2014 (EDT)

What do you think the "Origin" section is? It's to talk about the subject's history in its source series. Miles (talk) 13:22, 30 September 2014 (EDT)

Ugh I have terrible eyesight. Still, if you think weaknesses are important enough to note then you have to do it in a much better way. 184.44.3.106 13:27, 30 September 2014 (EDT)

"Ω Forms"

I mixed up the buttons, sorry. I forgot that "Y" switches the Boxing Ring's theme between Smash Bros. and Punch-Out!!. 68.119.28.72 22:53, 30 September 2014 (EDT)

No worries. It was a small fix. Miles (talk) 23:02, 30 September 2014 (EDT)

Rosalina & Luma is the final name

I just got the game. It's Rosalina & Luma. Please rename. RoyboyX Talk 16:14, 3 October 2014 (EDT)

When are you going to rename her? I'm the guy who got people waiting over a LEGO Pirates incident and now I want Rosalina to be renamed. It's time to rename her. Otherwise, we might keep bugging you. SeanWheeler (talk) 18:15, 3 October 2014 (EDT)

Do you want to rename Rosalina (SSB4) right now? You don't have to but it's dead clear now. Dots (talk) The Republic 20:21, 3 October 2014 (EDT)

I still think it's up for debate myself which we should use, but I've changed the protection level. Admins aren't kings, you know. Sometimes the consensus is what it is. Miles (talk) 20:40, 3 October 2014 (EDT)

I myself wonder why the name hasn't changed, even though it's been proven multiple times. Not trying to come off sounding like an ass, I'm just making a point. Aidan the Gamer 20:43, 3 October 2014 (EDT)

The page Rosalina & Luma (SSB4) needs to be deleted before anyone can move it. Someone? ...a new Nuttais approaching... 20:44, 3 October 2014 (EDT)

Actually...the "Rosalina & Luma (SSB4)" page is, by extension, a redirect page; if we can copy all the text from the current SSB4 page for Rosalina and paste it over on the other page (albeit with a few changes here and there), that might get us what we want in shorter time. Aidan the Gamer 20:49, 3 October 2014 (EDT)

Alright, I moved the page (finally). Now I just gotta archive the talk page. Rtzxy Smashing! 21:15, 3 October 2014 (EDT)

I'd like to begin contributing to SSB4 character pages

I've noticed that a lot of characters have numbers for damage listed as ?%. I created a new account to contribute, but new pages are currently protected against edits. How can I begin to help?

XenoXilus (talk) 04:32, 6 October 2014 (EDT)

SSB4 character pages are currently protected and require a user to be autoconfirmed to edit them. Miles (talk) 11:10, 6 October 2014 (EDT)

Help?

How does one deal with vandalism (clear vandalism) on a talk page? Because, if you look at the history of mine...it definitely looks like I have a troll coming for me. Aidan the Gamer 13:28, 19 October 2014 (EDT)

If it is indeed clear spam or vandalism, you may remove it and report it. Toomai Glittershine The Irrepressible 13:49, 19 October 2014 (EDT)

That stage in the latest Miiverse post

"Do we know what stage that is for Pause Function with Kirby on the beach.....? Leave me something on my talk page if you can identify it, or else I'll probably make a "Beach stage" generic page during the day"

It is definitely from the Wuhu Island part of the Pilotwings. I'm not sure why it would be taken from the ground, though. Compare the angle of that image between this image of Wuhu Island. The camera position is just past the right side of the second image, on the sandy beach, facing left towards the palms and cliff behind them. Here is an alternative view, facing in that direction from high up.

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Dracyoshi (talk) 05:30, 20 October 2014 (EDT)

I considered that possibility, but a) there's no umbrellas on Wuhu Island to my knowledge and b) we saw a lot of footage of that stage at E3 and characters never stand on the ground. Miles (talk) 06:47, 20 October 2014 (EDT)

Bowser Jr. and Jigglypuff screenshot?

The news said Bowser Jr. and Jigglypuff were visible in a SSBU screenshot, but I don't see any in the minus.com gallery. Would you happen to know where they are? Blue Ninjakoopa 10:07, 22 October 2014 (EDT)

It wasn't the press pack, it was this picture from the amiibo page on the official website. Miles (talk) 10:08, 22 October 2014 (EDT)

'ey

Don't worry about Mario Circuit, I got this. XL 18:58, 23 October 2014 (EDT)

Worked well last time, so that's good to hear. Miles (talk) 19:01, 23 October 2014 (EDT)

Regarding Reshiram1105

Hey Miles, sorry to bother you, but I've noticed that there has been an increased problem with the user Reshiram1105. Mainly I've noticed repeated talking to him about improper wiki usage on his talk page. I was wondering if their was a specific way to track just his edits in order to keep up with any problems he/she may be causing. I'd like to help as much I can to determine if this guy is a troll or just inept at using this wiki. Again, thanks for your time. Gpev96 (SHAZAM!) (talk) 11:03, 24 October 2014 (EDT)

You can always just use his contributions page. Toomai Glittershine The Brass 12:19, 24 October 2014 (EDT)

Thanks Toomai, I appreciate it. Gpev96 (SHAZAM!) (talk) 13:54, 24 October 2014 (EDT)

Proof that Duck Hunt (the dog) is male

In the Tips page, one of Duck Hunt's tips is Duck Hunt: Duck Jump – The duck grabs the dog and carries him through the air. Once started, this move can't be stopped.

Mr. Game&Watch SSB4

Hello! I'd just joined this particular wiki today. I noticed Game and Watch's page is actually protected, so, of course, I couldn't edit it. I know I just joined so I'm not trusted, but is there anything I can do to edit that page? I noticed some information was missing and saw the dair had the wrong percentage (unless I'm something). Thank you! ^^ -GuitraSchlong

In the case of a protected page you're unable to edit, request an edit to be made on that article's talk page. Also, please sign your posts with ~~~~. Thanks. Miles (talk) 19:32, 25 October 2014 (EDT)

The Rollback Here

May I ask why you did that? Nothing seems wrong here. Are capitalization redirects supposed to be deleted or not? Just curious here. Rtzxy Reflect!!! 14:57, 9 November 2014 (EST)

Furthermore, are you reverting my edits to facilitate moving the Copy Ability articles? If so, keep on. If not, I'll have you know that "Copy Ability" (with the 'a' capitalized in "ability") is the official name, and I'm prepared to undo your reverts. Blue Ninjakoopa 14:59, 9 November 2014 (EST)

BNK, the reason your edits were rollbacked was because you moved them incorrectly. Rtzxy Reflect!!! 15:01, 9 November 2014 (EST)

I was resetting the whole situation because it was implemented badly. If you want to move that many pages, it should have a talk page discussion first. Miles (talk) 15:02, 9 November 2014 (EST)

All right. We can have a talk page discussion. I support the move; the "a" in "abilities" is capitalized officially, so it would only seem right to capitalize it. Also, this may be the wrong place to do this, but whatever. Rtzxy Reflect!!! 15:05, 9 November 2014 (EST)

You're confusing quantity with quality, Miles. The reason we're discussing "Pit's Smash Taunt" vs. "Palutena's Guidance" is because those titles are legitimate and unique, while one is consistent with other Smash Taunt articles and the other is presumably the official name. I didn't think discussion was required for the Copy Ability pages because all I'm doing is capitalizing the first letter in the second word (which is how it's stylized officially; the change overall isn't significant to the degree of my earlier example). I didn't discuss anything when I moved it to the incorrect title over 3 years ago, so I figure that since I'm the one who made the error, I should be able to fix it without complications. Blue Ninjakoopa 15:12, 9 November 2014 (EST)

Not only is discussion almost always necessary for moving more than one page (and even usually for one page), but your implementation was absolutely wrong. Pages should never be moved by copy-paste because it severs the connection with the page history. Miles (talk) 15:15, 9 November 2014 (EST)

All right, I'm just going to flat-out ask this: can you delete the Copy Ability redirects so we can move the original pages to the redirects? Rtzxy Reflect!!! 15:26, 9 November 2014 (EST)

I admit I executed the moves poorly. What I'm trying to illustrate is the justification for them. I moved those pages so long ago to the improper titles without discussion, so why do I need support to fix my own mistake? "You're moving pages" isn't a good enough reason. Blue Ninjakoopa 15:33, 9 November 2014 (EST)

Given our rules on capitalization, it might not be an improper title. Is there a Smash source that capitalizes the function that way? That's the kind of thing we need to discuss. Miles (talk) 15:38, 9 November 2014 (EST)

I didn't mean to write over your comment, Rtzxy. I copied what I said, refreshed the talk page, and pasted it, unaware that I accidentally highlighted what you wrote and removed your comment.

Miles, the DOJO!! refers to them as "copy abilities," and the Melee trophy for Kirby Hat 1 apparently only capitalizes the 'c' in "Copy", but not the 'a' in "ability." Since "Copy Ability" is a term applied to Kirby that originates outside of Smash Bros., I figure that's enough to warrant referring to them as such here. Blue Ninjakoopa 15:57, 9 November 2014 (EST)

All right, that's understandable. I do that, too, sometimes, so I get the situation. Rtzxy Reflect!!! 15:59, 9 November 2014 (EST)

Yeah, lol. Also, I should note that the DOJO!! profile uses the term "copy abilities" to refer to Kirby's ability to copy characters; it doesn't refer to the powers Kirby gets as "Copy Abilities". Blue Ninjakoopa 16:07, 9 November 2014 (EST)

That looks like two Smash sources that treat it not as a proper noun the way Kirby does, which would imply we shouldn't move it. This is the kind of thing that needs a discussion (and preferably on a more appropriate talk page). Miles (talk) 16:16, 9 November 2014 (EST)

Move the Palette Swap pages

There's been a discussion over this for a significant amount of time and we have 7 supports and two opposes. Could you please move them to Alternate Costume, or at least delete those redirects so that I or someone else can? ---Preceding unsigned comment added by you. Or maybe Nutta. 16:05, 12 November 2014 (EST)

editing japanese translations

I don't mean to come off as some sort of superior, but I would appreciate it if you didn't edit my Japanese translations without at least checking with me (or Toomai, since he seems to know Japanese as well) first, since you don't seem to know quite as much about the language as I do, leading to things becoming less accurate. Thanks. ♡FirstaLasto♥ 16:06, 20 November 2014 (EST)

I tried to keep my tinkering to a minimum as I'm not very knowledgeable about the language. It's a fair point, and I'll be a bit more cautious going forward. Miles (talk) 16:09, 20 November 2014 (EST)

Rename

Can you rename some of the unnamed Final Smash Pages. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.60.218.64 (talk • contribs) 18:42, 20 November 2014 (EST)

Can you provide a source for these names? Rtzxy Reflect! 18:47, 20 November 2014 (EST)

"SSBU"

Remember earlier on my talk page when you said that "SSBU" and "SSBWU" gives the same result? Well, I looked into it further; as it turns out, they don't wield the same result. "SSBU" will actually link to Super Smash Bros. University, and not Super Smash Bros. for Wii U. Just thought I'd let you know. Rtzxy Reflect! 23:21, 23 November 2014 (EST)

Palutena's Guidance

Looking through the edits, I noticed it was you who reverted my edits to clean up the Palutena's Guidance page. However, I don't understand why you did it. Listing the same character twice or more in a row just looks really messy and, frankly, unprofessional. Despite your claims, it can't have anything to do with "seperate dialogue boxes" because the "Snake's Codec" page merges multiple dialogue boxes and yet is completely untouched. I fixed it again, though. 85.210.188.121 07:02, 26 November 2014 (EST)

Just FYI

I'm gonna be offline for a while, something kinda just blew up in my family, and the family member who started this had access to this account, so if I come online in the next, say, week, assume bad faith and watch my edits. (And yes, I did change my password, but I'm not sure if they have a key-logger on this computer or not) Also, I'm telling you this since you're the only admin online. Laikue (talk | contribs) 22:25, 3 December 2014 (EST)

Noted, and sorry to hear about the bad news. Keep in mind that Special:ChangePassword exists, though. Miles (talk) 23:37, 3 December 2014 (EST)

M rated.

I know, that's why I wrote NINTENDO franchises. Not third party franchise, like Metal Gear (Fatal Frame is second party since Nintendo owns the publishing rights, which is why I mentioned it).64.237.230.122 20:02, 20 December 2014 (EST)

If you're referring to this, I specified my reason for removing it in the edit summary. A trivia point where you have to start making extra exceptions in order to keep it valid probably isn't that notable. Miles (talk) 11:25, 21 December 2014 (EST)

Question

what is t3h ph1re? Just curious. (Smashworker101 (talk) 19:56, 31 December 2014 (EST))

A rather silly old joke indicating "fiery" user rights. In other words, nothing particularly important. Miles (talk) 20:11, 31 December 2014 (EST)

oh I get it, t3h ph1re meaning the fire. The reason I asked this question because many rollbackers, sysops, bureaucrats, and aministrators have this. (Smashworker101 (talk) 20:17, 31 December 2014 (EST))

Account

Please block this account, I don't mind going back to being an IP to edit pages. --MichaelxYoshi36 (talk) 12:01, 1 January 2015 (EST)

Is there a particular reason? If you don't want to use the account, simply don't use it. Miles (talk) 12:52, 1 January 2015 (EST)

Please...

...block this user. He's becoming a real pain in the ass. ...And all these reverted edits are clogging up the recent changes. BlueStreak Speeds By 23:14, 18 January 2015 (EST)