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Awesome Cardinal 2000 08:59, 2 January 2014 (EST)

Talk to me about Pichu in PM you know you want to

Your ideas are good but here are a few extra ideas: 1. Bair remains the same so there is less clones. 2. Down-B should be Discharge and act like Wario Waft. 3. B-throw should be Pikachu's from Smash 64 4. F-throw should be Pikachu's from Smash 64. 5. Pikachu should have a nerfed thunderbolt that acts like Pichu's but has thundercloud sweetspot. We met on the Apex 2014 livestream remember? --TheLegendaryKRB (talk) 16:10, 20 January 2014 (EST)

Yeah I do remember! :3
  • I don't see how similar movesets are a problem. Pichu needs a weak back air. It doesn't have to be the same as Pikachu's but something like a Falcon bair or a Mario bair would aid in off stage play. The current bair is very laggy, and a sex kick is something that my model of Pichu doesn't have, but is crucial.
  • I'm not too eager on that down special. I was trying to make Thunder be a vertical follow up, where you send the enemy up with an up tilt or an up air and then finish with a Thunder. Wario Waft is one of my least favorite moves, partially because it's a fart joke and the rest because of its unreliable, gimmicky behavior. Any move that needs to charge passively takes control away from the player and forces them to alter their playstyle to match the current parameters. It's hard to rely on that move when you only have it half of the time, and this breaks up the meta of a character with "well if you have a Discharge ready..." Also, Pichu can't use Discharge according to bulbapedia. (I don't play Pokemanz, so I'm probably wrong.)
  • I've never played Smash 64, can't really comment here.
  • I'm not sure what you meant on the last point. I'm for Thunder having a cloud sweetspot for Pichu in PM.
One area I'm still not sure in is how Pichu will manage to put on heavy shield pressure. It's crucial to such an offensive playstyle, otherwise you're just going to get shield grabbed constantly. None of the aerials I gave him are multihit, and multihit aerials are usually good for pressuring shield. Ryxis (talk) 16:59, 20 January 2014 (EST)