User:Shadowcrest
Is this an impostor or did you register two accounts? --Porplemontage 17:16, 28 September 2010 (EDT)
- They are both me. I didn't want anyone registering SC to impersonate me, but on other wikis I've switched to Emmett (but couldn't because it was already registered on wikia). Emmett 17:33, 28 September 2010 (EDT)
- Ok. --Porplemontage 17:34, 28 September 2010 (EDT)
- (Confirmation that I have both accounts) Shadowcrest 17:38, 28 September 2010 (EDT)
- Ok. --Porplemontage 17:34, 28 September 2010 (EDT)
Rollback
So if you want to require admins to rerequest, what about Rollbackers? Or wait you don't even support having an RfR policy. Can we even set users to just have Rollback? If you look here, there is no rollback option, but there is an added "Patrolman" option. I'm in no hurry to have these questions answered; it's just something I want you to keep in the back of your mind and eventually discuss with Clarinet Hawk (if and when he comes over) and the other sysops. Dr. Pain 99 09:13, 29 September 2010 (EDT)
- I'm going to work with NIWA to see what's going on. Not sure to what extent we can edit groups, but I'll try. Emmett 11:06, 29 September 2010 (EDT)
Policy opinions
Elaborate on your sentiments of the policies mentioned on your userpage please. Toomai 12:22, 29 September 2010 (EDT)
- Do you mean the general idea, or each specific policy that I mentioned? Emmett 14:00, 29 September 2010 (EDT)
- The specifics; I can understand the general idea of "we're kind of starting over, we might as well have a look at everything". {{SUBST:User:Toomai/sig}} 14:18, 29 September 2010 (EDT)
- Ban/Del/Prot policies are stupid. As is a vandalism policy. I expect sysops to know what the tools are and I expect them not to need a policy to dictate when (not) to use the tools.
- RfR: unnecessary bureaucracy and waste of time. (Honestly I'm not even sure having a rollback usergroup is worth the trouble-- people on SmashWikia abused it all the time.) If we decide to have a group of rollbackers, they can just ask a bureaucrat for the tools-- there's really no reason to open a formal red-tapey process for something that is so pointless. Bias is not an issue because even if bias was present (which I generally think myself and C.Hawk can avoid), it's rollback so what does it really matter?
- RfB: This is again something that I think could just be decided by the bureaucrats on a "do we need another one, and if so who's good for the job" basis. Most users don't really interact with bureaucrats (as bureaucrats anyway) and often don't really understand what the job entails, making RfBs just a prop to appease the crowd. I think the bureaucrats can be trusted to find other good bureaucrats for the job. This one is probably controversial and I won't be too surprised if consensus wants to keep RfBs anyway, but I personally don't see a need.
- I'll get around to writing drafts of the tweak category sometime soon. Emmett 19:14, 1 October 2010 (EDT)
- The specifics; I can understand the general idea of "we're kind of starting over, we might as well have a look at everything". {{SUBST:User:Toomai/sig}} 14:18, 29 September 2010 (EDT)
- We maybe can use that weird "patroller" user group for users who want to revert vandalism, but don't necessarily need sysop rights. It seems unnecessary to me, but if the vandalism gets bad we can implement an "RfP" policy or something. Dr. Pain 99 19:26, 1 October 2010 (EDT)