User:Zeldasmash/Zeldasmash List Of Tier Lists

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I created this page so i can put my tier lists separated from my user page. In the real tier lists for Brawl there are receptions of my crew and me put together to show what we think about them.


1st Tier List

SSBB Tiers
    S A  
    1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11  
    File:Icon-link.gif
File:Icon-metaknight.gif
File:Icon-samus.gif
File:Icon-falco.gif
File:Icon-fox.gif
File:Icon-captainfalcon.gif
File:Icon-wolf.gif
File:Icon-mario.gif
File:Icon-snake.gif
File:Icon-marth.gif
File:Icon-lucario.gif
 
  B C D  
  12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24  
  link-Ike (SSBB)
File:Icon-sonic.gif
File:Icon-rob.gif
File:Icon-kirby.gif
File:Icon-sheik.gif
File:Icon-mrgame&watch.gif
File:Icon-zelda.gif
File:Icon-pikachu.gif
File:Icon-luigi.gif
File:Icon-donkeykong.gif
File:Icon-pit.gif
File:Icon-jigglypuff.gif
File:Icon-pokemontrainer.gif
 
  E F G  
  25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37  
  File:Icon-bowser.gif
File:Icon-kingdedede.gif
File:Icon-iceclimbers.gif
File:Icon-zerosuitsamus.gif
File:Icon-diddykong.gif
File:Icon-yoshi.gif
File:Icon-peach.gif
File:Icon-olimar.gif
File:Icon-ness.gif
File:Icon-wario.gif
File:Icon-toonlink.gif
File:Icon-lucas.gif
File:Icon-ganondorf.gif
 

I highly point out that Fox should be higher than Falco on the tier list, but due to his better attributes, i was unable. This tier list features Falcon last on the S tier section due (to my opinion) having great running speed and can psuedo-chain grab and has excellent combo abilities and powerful Knee Smash combo killer and finisher. Captain Falcon will rank higher on later tier lists.

2nd Tier List

SSBB Tiers
    S A  
    1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11  
    For me, the best character in every Smash game
17.765
Needs more killing power but still, AWESOME!!!
16.667
Severely nerfed but has better recovery and combo properties
16.666
What happened, i don't know but still cool
15.500
Still a top tier in my opinion
14.500
More damage inflictions, but still worse in Brawl than in Melee
14.000
I would say SHIT for excellent tilts
13.111
What happened to your hitstun?
12.922
An excellent animal who deserves this position
12.899
Laggy but OHKO propertied
12.833
Weak but AWESOME
12.832
 
  B C D  
  12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24  
  I expected more from you, but pathetic killing power? That's not the Sonic i know
12.500
DEFINITELY BETTER IN BRAWL THAN IN MELEE
12.400
The robotic hero
12.305
What a buff!!!!
12.300
Great and low killing power?
12.133
Congrats for being a better character
12.067
The same as Kirby
12.000
I have no comments on this one, but a good character
11.800
Chop Suey
11.533
What the f*** happened to you!?
11.467
Weak but a balanced character
11.466
She lost her combo power
11.464
Why would i need two characters for one fight?
11.400
 
  E F G  
  25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37  
  Good character but terrible in Stanima
11.067
Powerful but completely pathetic Final Smash
11.000
Buffed and better but still bad
10.600
No Comment
9.600
Worst Final Smash, stale moves, very low killing power, WHAT ELSE!?
9.000
Finally has some recovery
8.467
THE MOST ANNOYING CHARACTER INCLUDED IN BOTH MELEE AND BRAWL
8.267
Too weak
8.000
Pathetic and simply a bad character choice
7.867
I'M A COWARD!!!!
7.732
Good air game but pathetic
7.467
Way too self destructive
5.934
He is damn crap, he is a walking shit pile!!
5.933
 

This is the tier list that brought glory to Captain Falcon. Captain Falcon is ranked 3rd instead of 6th (which so far, it's Falcon's worst position) for the same stats as before but this time i know how to use him better than last time. This is the first time that Fox passed Falco in tier placing (they are on the same tier) for his faster movement and that Fox manages to make combos somewhat easier than Falco and his powerful up smash and up aerial.


3rd Tier List

SSBB Tiers
      S A    
      1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12    
      File:Icon-link.gif
Needs more killing power but still, AWESOME!!!
What happened, i don't know but still cool
More damage inflictions, but still worse in Brawl than in Melee
Severely nerfed but has better recovery and combo properties
Still a top tier in my opinion
I would say SHIT for excellent tilts
Laggy but OHKO propertied
What happened to your hitstun?
Great and low killing power?
Weak but AWESOME
An excellent animal who deserves this position
   
  B C D  
  13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28  
  I expected more from you, but pathetic killing power? That's not the Sonic i know
The robotic hero
I have no comments on this one, but a good character
What the f*** happened to you!?
DEFINITELY BETTER IN BRAWL THAN IN MELEE
What a buff!!!!
Congrats for being a better character
Worst Final Smash, stale moves, very low killing power, WHAT ELSE!?
The same as Kirby
Weak but a balanced character
She lost her combo power
Why would i need two characters for one fight?
No Comment
Good character but terrible in Stanima
Chop Suey
File:Icon-charizard.gif  
      E F G    
      29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40    
      Powerful but completely pathetic Final Smash
Buffed and better but still bad
He is damn crap, he is a walking shit pile!!
Finally has some recovery
Too weak
File:Icon-squirtle.gif
File:Icon-ivysaur.gif
Good air game but pathetic
THE MOST ANNOYING CHARACTER INCLUDED IN BOTH MELEE AND BRAWL
Pathetic and simply a bad character choice
Way too self destructive
I'M A COWARD!!!!
   

Zero Suit Samus made a huge jump from her previously low tier position which was 29th now 20th (the highest increase in the tier list). Samus made it to her 3rd position and Captain Falcon moved down to 5th. Most think that Samus and Captain Falcon should be tied for 3rd and 4th. Ganondorf is no longer last (courtesy of Omega Tyrant) and now it' Lucas.

4th Tier List

SSBB Tiers
  S A  
  1 2 3/4 3/4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13  
  File:Icon-link.gif
20.977
File:Icon-metaknight.gif
20.957
File:Icon-samus.gif
20.900
File:Icon-captainfalcon.gif
20.900
File:Icon-fox.gif
20.777
File:Icon-falco.gif
20.000
File:Icon-snake.gif
19.233
File:Icon-lucario.gif
19.222
File:Icon-rob.gif
19.221
File:Icon-mario.gif
19.110
File:Icon-marth.gif
19.107
File:Icon-wolf.gif
19.023
File:Icon-mrgame&watch.gif
19.000
 
B C D
14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28
File:Icon-ike.gif
18.667
File:Icon-kirby.gif
18.590
File:Icon-sheik.gif
16.500
File:Icon-sonic.gif
17.900
File:Icon-pikachu.gif
17.459
File:Icon-donkeykong.gif
16.897
File:Icon-zelda.gif
17.000
File:Icon-kingdedede.gif
14.982
File:Icon-pit.gif
12.134
File:Icon-jigglypuff.gif
14.000
File:Icon-luigi.gif
12.077
File:Icon-zerosuitsamus.gif
11.345
File:Icon-iceclimbers.gif
10.777
File:Icon-ness.gif
10.333
File:Icon-pokemontrainer.gif
10.327
      E F      
      29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37      
      File:Icon-yoshi.gif
9.888
File:Icon-bowser.gif
9.776
File:Icon-olimar.gif
9.000
File:Icon-diddykong.gif
7.984
File:Icon-wario.gif
7.987
File:Icon-toonlink.gif
6.044
File:Icon-lucas.gif
7.000
File:Icon-peach.gif
6.022
File:Icon-ganondorf.gif
6.000
     

Captain Falcon and Samus are tied for the same position (3rd and 4th) like most predicted. Wario and Diddy Kong are no longer bottom tier and Toon Link is no longer 36th (2nd from bottom) now it's Peach for her poor KO power and severley nerfed down smash. Ganondorf returned to being bottom and Lucas is now 3rd from last.

5th Tier List

SSBB Tiers
S A
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13
File:Icon-link.gif File:Icon-metaknight.gif File:Icon-fox.gif File:Icon-falco.gif File:Icon-samus.gif File:Icon-captainfalcon.gif File:Icon-snake.gif File:Icon-mario.gif File:Icon-rob.gif File:Icon-ike.gif File:Icon-mrgame&watch.gif File:Icon-wolf.gif File:Icon-marth.gif
  B C  
  14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24  
  File:Icon-lucario.gif File:Icon-kirby.gif File:Icon-sonic.gif File:Icon-sheik.gif File:Icon-donkeykong.gif File:Icon-zelda.gif File:Icon-kingdedede.gif File:Icon-pikachu.gif File:Icon-jigglypuff.gif File:Icon-pit.gif File:Icon-zerosuitsamus.gif  
D E F
25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37
File:Icon-pokemontrainer.gif File:Icon-ness.gif File:Icon-luigi.gif File:Icon-iceclimbers.gif File:Icon-olimar.gif File:Icon-yoshi.gif File:Icon-diddykong.gif File:Icon-wario.gif File:Icon-bowser.gif File:Icon-lucas.gif File:Icon-peach.gif File:Icon-toonlink.gif File:Icon-ganondorf.gif

This is the only tier list where Samus or Captain Falcon are not in 3rd place, instead being Fox. This is also the only tier list not to feature Lucario in the High tier, instead in his place in the 3rd Tier List for Brawl (the tier list look itself is the 3rd tier list for Brawl). Bowser did a downgrade to the bottom of the low tier. From the looks at Bowser's placing, Bowser will likely fall in the bottom tier and let Lucas out of the low tier.

6th Tier List

SSBB Tiers
God Top Ultra Upper High
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15
File:Icon-link.gif File:Icon-metaknight.gif File:Icon-captainfalcon.gif File:Icon-fox.gif File:Icon-samus.gif File:Icon-falco.gif File:Icon-snake.gif File:Icon-mario.gif File:Icon-rob.gif File:Icon-lucario.gif File:Icon-ike.gif File:Icon-marth.gif File:Icon-mrgame&watch.gif File:Icon-wolf.gif File:Icon-sheik.gif
    Mid Mid/Low    
    16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26    
    File:Icon-zelda.gif File:Icon-kirby.gif File:Icon-kingdedede.gif File:Icon-donkeykong.gif File:Icon-jigglypuff.gif File:Icon-luigi.gif File:Icon-pit.gif File:Icon-sonic.gif File:Icon-pikachu.gif File:Icon-zerosuitsamus.gif File:Icon-iceclimbers.gif    
    Low Bottom    
    27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37    
    File:Icon-ness.gif File:Icon-pokemontrainer.gif File:Icon-yoshi.gif File:Icon-olimar.gif File:Icon-wario.gif File:Icon-diddykong.gif File:Icon-bowser.gif File:Icon-lucas.gif File:Icon-toonlink.gif File:Icon-ganondorf.gif File:Icon-peach.gif    

Trivia

  • Link and Meta Knight are the only characters who always stayed in the same position as always.
  • Strangely, the 3rd position has always been taken by either Samus or Captain Falcon. Most think that Samus and Captain Falcon should be tied for this position.
  • Excluding Falco, Meta Knight and Fox, the S Tier is run by heavyweights.
  • From the the 2nd tier list changes to the third, Zero Suit Samus made the biggest ascend and change from any tier list
  • The 4th tier list resembles Brawl's tier list in its 3rd version.

Real Tier Lists For Brawl

First tier list (September 1, 2008)

SSBB Tier List #1
Top High
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16
File:Icon-metaknight.gif File:Icon-snake.gif File:Icon-kingdedede.gif File:Icon-mrgame&watch.gif File:Icon-falco.gif File:Icon-rob.gif File:Icon-marth.gif File:Icon-wario.gif File:Icon-lucario.gif File:Icon-donkeykong.gif File:Icon-diddykong.gif File:Icon-pikachu.gif File:Icon-iceclimbers.gif File:Icon-kirby.gif File:Icon-pit.gif File:Icon-wolf.gif
Middle            
17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26            
File:Icon-toonlink.gif File:Icon-olimar.gif File:Icon-fox.gif File:Icon-zelda.gif File:Icon-zerosuitsamus.gif File:Icon-bowser.gif File:Icon-luigi.gif File:Icon-peach.gif File:Icon-ike.gif File:Icon-sheik.gif            
          Low
          27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37
          File:Icon-lucas.gif File:Icon-ness.gif File:Icon-mario.gif File:Icon-pokemontrainer.gif File:Icon-samus.gif File:Icon-yoshi.gif File:Icon-sonic.gif File:Icon-jigglypuff.gif File:Icon-ganondorf.gif File:Icon-link.gif File:Icon-captainfalcon.gif

While many players wanted to have a tier list a month or 2 after Brawl's release, the SBR decided (and with good reason) to wait at least a couple of months before making the first tier list. The idea was that making a tier list too early would result in it becoming quickly outdated, forcing the SBR to make a second one. The SBR made the correct decision. Players' perception of the tier list changed dramatically between the game's release and September. The most noticeable fluctuation was Snake's placing, who was first about mid tier, then sky rocketed to the #1 spot above Meta Knight. Snake was considered the best character in the game for quite a while, this opinion being backed up by tournaments where Snake took almost all the top spots (in one case, the top 5 placings were all Snake). It wasn't until around when Mew2king started dominating with Meta Knight that players realized Meta Knight was better.

2nd

Second tier list (January 5, 2009)

SSBB Tier List #2
SS S A B C
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10/11 10/11 12 13 14 15
File:Icon-metaknight.gif File:Icon-snake.gif File:Icon-falco.gif File:Icon-kingdedede.gif File:Icon-mrgame&watch.gif File:Icon-marth.gif File:Icon-diddykong.gif File:Icon-wario.gif File:Icon-rob.gif File:Icon-lucario.gif File:Icon-olimar.gif File:Icon-pikachu.gif File:Icon-kirby.gif File:Icon-donkeykong.gif File:Icon-iceclimbers.gif
    D E    
    16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26    
    File:Icon-zerosuitsamus.gif File:Icon-toonlink.gif File:Icon-pit.gif File:Icon-peach.gif File:Icon-wolf.gif File:Icon-luigi.gif File:Icon-zelda.gif File:Icon-bowser.gif File:Icon-fox.gif File:Icon-sheik.gif File:Icon-ike.gif    
    F G    
    27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37    
    File:Icon-mario.gif File:Icon-lucas.gif File:Icon-ness.gif File:Icon-samus.gif File:Icon-sonic.gif File:Icon-pokemontrainer.gif File:Icon-yoshi.gif File:Icon-link.gif File:Icon-jigglypuff.gif File:Icon-ganondorf.gif File:Icon-captainfalcon.gif    

By this time no player doubted Meta Knight's placing in the old tier list. In many players' opinions, Meta Knight wasn't just better than every other character, but better by a noticeable gap. Meta Knight was considered so good that it caused a huge debate on whether Meta Knight should be allowed in tournaments. After many heated discussions, the SBR decided by vote that Meta Knight should be left alone and no one should be banned.

Snake was also elevated above other characters to a similar degree, though not to the point of being considered banned. This resulted in both of these characters having their own tiers. Diddy Kong also received a huge bump up the tier list after NinjaLink successfully beat Mew2king by abusing Diddy's bananas to a level not seen before.

Reception

This tier list received somewhat positive reviews. The group has a 7/10 (60%) has given it a positive review. It was praised because Link is no longer 2nd bottom. It was also praised because Falco is 3rd Best and Mario is no longer one of the worst in the low (he is now the leader). It was also praised because Meta Knight and Snake have their own tiers, something that most of us, including me, wanted to happen on the tier list. Despite this, the list was criticized because of Captain Falcon still being the worst character, something that all of us wanted Ganondorf to be in. It was also criticized because of Bowser being higher than Fox and Sheik in the tier list (although in the first tier list had Fox higher than Bowser).

3rd

Third tier list (June 4, 2009)

SSBB Tier List #3
S A
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13
File:Icon-metaknight.gif File:Icon-snake.gif File:Icon-wario.gif File:Icon-falco.gif File:Icon-diddykong.gif File:Icon-kingdedede.gif File:Icon-marth.gif File:Icon-mrgame&watch.gif File:Icon-pikachu.gif File:Icon-olimar.gif File:Icon-iceclimbers.gif File:Icon-rob.gif File:Icon-kirby.gif
  B C  
  14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24  
  File:Icon-lucario.gif File:Icon-zerosuitsamus.gif File:Icon-toonlink.gif File:Icon-pit.gif File:Icon-donkeykong.gif File:Icon-peach.gif File:Icon-luigi.gif File:Icon-fox.gif File:Icon-wolf.gif File:Icon-sonic.gif File:Icon-sheik.gif  
D E F
25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37
File:Icon-bowser.gif File:Icon-zelda.gif File:Icon-pokemontrainer.gif File:Icon-ike.gif File:Icon-lucas.gif File:Icon-mario.gif File:Icon-ness.gif File:Icon-yoshi.gif File:Icon-samus.gif File:Icon-jigglypuff.gif File:Icon-captainfalcon.gif File:Icon-link.gif File:Icon-ganondorf.gif

The first tier list to not have Captain Falcon last on the list. Instead, Ganondorf is last because of his slow attacks, bad recovery, and lack of mobility.

In this list, Wario and Sonic made a large jump. Wario's change is due to the newly found usefulness of his great air mobility, coupled with great recovery and heavy weight, making him a very defensive character that is hard to KO. While most of the community perceived Sonic as a bad character, dedicated mains continued to defy the tier list of Jan 1, 2009 by placing high in tourneys. In this tier list, their efforts were finally recognized.

Reception

Reviews were positive to overwhelmingly mixed. It is shown that only 5/10 (meaning 40% or 37%) gave it a positive review. The tier list was highly criticized due to Wario's high placement and Link's return to second last. The only thing that was praised was that Captain Falcon is no longer bottom and Sonic's huge jump, putting him out of the low tier (last time he was 6th from last). The list was criticized due to Diddy Kong's placement in the top tier and that Peach and Luigi were higher than Fox and Wolf on the tier list.

4th

Fourth tier list (February 26, 2010)

SSBB Tiers
  S   A  
  1   2 3 4 5 6 7  
  File:Icon-metaknight.gif   File:Icon-snake.gif File:Icon-diddykong.gif File:Icon-falco.gif File:Icon-iceclimbers.gif File:Icon-marth.gif File:Icon-wario.gif  
B C
8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17
File:Icon-kingdedede.gif File:Icon-pikachu.gif File:Icon-olimar.gif File:Icon-lucario.gif File:Icon-mrgame&watch.gif File:Icon-pit.gif File:Icon-toonlink.gif File:Icon-zerosuitsamus.gif File:Icon-kirby.gif File:Icon-rob.gif
D E
18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27
File:Icon-donkeykong.gif File:Icon-peach.gif File:Icon-fox.gif File:Icon-luigi.gif File:Icon-wolf.gif File:Icon-sheik.gif File:Icon-pokemontrainer.gif File:Icon-sonic.gif File:Icon-ness.gif File:Icon-bowser.gif
F G
28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37
File:Icon-lucas.gif File:Icon-ike.gif File:Icon-yoshi.gif File:Icon-mario.gif File:Icon-captainfalcon.gif File:Icon-samus.gif File:Icon-jigglypuff.gif File:Icon-zelda.gif File:Icon-link.gif File:Icon-ganondorf.gif

Reception

This tier list received overwhelmingly negative reviews. Only 2/10 (5%) gave it a positive review. The list was highly criticized of Diddy Kong being 3rd best and even passing Falco on the list. The list was also crticized because of Ike's introduction in the low tiers and Mario's nerfed position. One of the major reasons the list was panned is R.O.B's severely nerfed position, lowering 5 spots on the previous list to this one. And the other main reason is Zelda's introduction into the Bottom tier (a tier she has never been on in Brawl) despite being buffed from Melee to Brawl. Another reason is that the G Tier is nothing but a "Zelda" Tier now due to having the main characters from the Zelda series (even the 3 Triforce Weilders) and is now the worst group in the game. The list was praised only because Captain Falcon is out of the bottom tier. The list was also panned due to the Ice Climbers huge and suddenly high position. Most of us did want the Ice Climbers to rise, but not by that much.