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(Melee and SSB4 sections will need redone from scratch, using the same method done in Brawl. Obviously SSB does not have this option, so what we have is what we have.)
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==Chart (SSBM)==
==Chart (SSBM)==
{{cleanup|Data is unclear; on what character were these KO percentages and knockback values obtained from, and where in what stage are the KO percentages obtained from. The data also needs fact checking, as some of these do not look correct (such as Ness' having higher listed base knockback and knockback scaling values than several other f-smashes with a listed lower KO%). Additionally, what was done on the Brawl chart in regards to KO percentages should be done here. Also needs separate data for different portions of the attacks, such as Marth's tipper, Mario's fire burst, etc.}}
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The following chart lists the approximate KO percentages and the knockback values for the strongest hitbox of each forward smash in ''[[Super Smash Bros. Melee]]'' (or in the case of multi-hitting smashes, the power of the attack if all hitboxes connect). For Link and Peach, each of their different forward smashes are represented on the chart separately. For the Ice Climbers, when both Climbers connect their forward smash and when only Popo connect it are represented separately.
The following chart lists the approximate KO percentages and the knockback values for the strongest hitbox of each forward smash in ''[[Super Smash Bros. Melee]]'' (or in the case of multi-hitting smashes, the power of the attack if all hitboxes connect). For Link and Peach, each of their different forward smashes are represented on the chart separately. For the Ice Climbers, when both Climbers connect their forward smash and when only Popo connect it are represented separately.
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{| class="wikitable sortable"
{| class="wikitable sortable"
|-
! Rank || Character ||{{rollover|Base knockback|Knockback velocity on Mario at 0%|y}}||{{rollover|Knockback scaling|How much knockback velocity increases per percent on Mario|y}}||{{rollover|KO percent with poor DI|The percent the hitbox reaches ?? in knockback velocity on Mario, which KOs from the center of FD with the standard horizontal trajectory when DI'd down|y}}||{{rollover|KO percent with no DI|The percent the hitbox reaches ?? in knockback velocity on Mario, which KOs from the center of FD with the standard horizontal trajectory when not DI'd|y}}||{{rollover|KO percent with good DI|The percent the hitbox reaches ?? in knockback velocity on Mario, which KOs from the center of FD with the standard horizontal trajectory when DI'd away|y}}
!Rank ||Character || KO% || Base Knockback || Knockback Scaling
|-
|1.|| {{SSBM|Bowser}} || 70% || 30 || 1.00
|-
|2.|| {{SSBM|Captain Falcon}} || 95% || 24 || 1.00
|-
|3.|| {{SSBM|Marth}} || 96% || 80 || 0.70
|-
|4.|| {{SSBM|Pikachu}} || 99% || 25 || 0.92
|-
|5.|| {{SSBM|Dr. Mario}} || 100% || 30 || 0.97
|-
|6.|| {{SSBM|Jigglypuff}} || 103% || 10 || 1.18
|-
|7.|| {{SSBM|Ganondorf}} || 105% || 40 || 0.83
|-
|8.|| {{SSBM|Roy}} || 105% || 80 || 0.65
|-
|9.|| {{SSBM|Donkey Kong}} || 105% || 22 || 0.94
|-
|10.|| {{SSBM|Zelda}} || 115% || 45 || 0.61
|-
|11.|| {{SSBM|Ness}} || 113% || 50 || 0.62
|-
|12.|| {{SSBM|Ice Climbers}} B || 111% || 40 || 1.05
|-
|13.|| {{SSBM|Pichu}} || 112% || 71 || 0.43
|-
|14.|| {{SSBM|Mr. Game & Watch}} || 111%|| 44 || 1.00
|-
|15.|| {{SSBM|Link}} 2nd || 116% || 30 || 1.00
|-
|16.|| {{SSBM|Mario}} ||113% || 25 || 0.95
|-
|17.|| {{SSBM|Falco}} || 117% || 40 || 0.90
|-
|18.|| {{SSBM|Luigi}} || 120% || 20 || 1.35
|-
|19.|| {{SSBM|Ice Climbers}} S || 123% || 40 || 0.64
|-
|20.|| {{SSBM|Yoshi}} || 130% || 32 || 0.94
|-
|21.|| {{SSBM|Samus}} || 130% || 30 || 1.04
|-
|22.|| {{SSBM|Young Link}} || 130% || 35 || 0.64
|-
|23.|| {{SSBM|Fox}} || 135% || 10 || 1.05
|-
|24.|| {{SSBM|Kirby}} || 140% || 24 || 0.96
|-
|25.|| {{SSBM|Mewtwo}} || 141% || 21 || 0.75
|-
|26.|| {{SSBM|Peach}} G || 165% || 50 || 0.36
|-
|27.|| Link 1st || 169% || 30 || 0.85
|-
|28.|| Peach P || 210% || 39 || 0.44
|-
|29.|| {{SSBM|Sheik}} || 246% || 37 || 0.32
|-
|30.|| Peach T || 350% || 48 || 0.18
|}
|}


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==Chart (SSB4)==
==Chart (SSB4)==
 
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{| class="wikitable sortable"
{| class="wikitable sortable"
|-
! Rank || Character ||{{rollover|Base knockback|Knockback velocity on Mario at 0%|y}}||{{rollover|Knockback scaling|How much knockback velocity increases per percent on Mario|y}}||{{rollover|KO percent with poor DI|The percent the hitbox reaches ?? in knockback velocity on Mario, which KOs from the center of FD with the standard horizontal trajectory when DI'd down|y}}||{{rollover|KO percent with no DI|The percent the hitbox reaches ?? in knockback velocity on Mario, which KOs from the center of FD with the standard horizontal trajectory when not DI'd|y}}||{{rollover|KO percent with good DI|The percent the hitbox reaches ?? in knockback velocity on Mario, which KOs from the center of FD with the standard horizontal trajectory when DI'd away|y}}
! Character !! Base Knockback !! Knockback Growth
|-
| {{SSB4|Bayonetta}} || {{SortKey|026}} 26 || 102
|-
| {{SSB4|Bowser}} || {{SortKey|025/010}} 25/10 || {{SortKey|103/098}} 103/98
|-
| {{SSB4|Bowser Jr.}} || {{SortKey|040}} 40 || 136
|-
| {{SSB4|Captain Falcon}} || {{SortKey|024}} 24 || {{SortKey|095/083}} 95/83
|-
| {{SSB4|Charizard}} || {{SortKey|060}} 60 || {{SortKey|094}} 94
|-
| {{SSB4|Cloud}} || {{SortKey|042}} 42 || 115
|-
| {{SSB4|Corrin}} || {{SortKey|035}} 35 || {{SortKey|105/099}} 105/99
|-
| {{SSB4|Dark Pit}} || {{SortKey|042}} 42 || 122
|-
| {{SSB4|Diddy Kong}} || {{SortKey|040}} 40 || 116
|-
| {{SSB4|Donkey Kong}} || {{SortKey|030/025}} 30/25 || {{SortKey|091}} 91
|-
| {{SSB4|Dr. Mario}} || {{SortKey|025}} 25 || {{SortKey|100/096}} 100/96
|-
| {{SSB4|Duck Hunt}} || {{SortKey|050}} 50 || 125
|-
| {{SSB4|Falco}} || {{SortKey|042/030}} 42/30 || {{SortKey|096/093/090}} 96/93/90
|-
| {{SSB4|Fox}} || {{SortKey|020}} 20 || {{SortKey|100/098}} 100/98
|-
| {{SSB4|Ganondorf}} || {{SortKey|035/030}} 35/30 || {{SortKey|083/075}} 83/75
|-
| {{SSB4|Greninja}} || {{SortKey|030}} 30 || 101
|-
| {{SSB4|Ike}} || {{SortKey|040}} 40 || {{SortKey|090/086}} 90/86
|-
| {{SSB4|Jigglypuff}} || {{SortKey|010/006}} 10/6 || {{SortKey|115/085}} 115/85
|-
| {{SSB4|King Dedede}} || {{SortKey|100/030}} 100/30 || {{SortKey|093/030}} 93/30
|-
| {{SSB4|Kirby}} || {{SortKey|090/030}} 90/30 || {{SortKey|102/069}} 102/69
|-
| {{SSB4|Link}} || {{SortKey|085/047/030}} 47/30 (hit 1), 85 (hit 2) || {{SortKey|100/089/015}} 100/15 (hit 1), 89 (hit 2)
|-
| {{SSB4|Little Mac}} || {{SortKey|050/031/030/024}} 50/31/30/24 || {{SortKey|100/091/081/021}} 100/91/81/21
|-
| {{SSB4|Lucario}} || {{SortKey|040}} 40 || 106
|-
| {{SSB4|Lucas}} || {{SortKey|050}} 50 || {{SortKey|088}} 88
|-
| {{SSB4|Lucina}} || {{SortKey|065}} 65 || {{SortKey|080}} 80
|-
| {{SSB4|Luigi}} || {{SortKey|020}} 20 || {{SortKey|121/117/116}} 121/117/116
|-
| {{SSB4|Mario}} || {{SortKey|025}} 25 || {{SortKey|103/099}} 103/99
|-
| {{SSB4|Marth}} || {{SortKey|55/55/55/80}} 55/55/55/80 || {{SortKey|80}} 80
|-
| {{SSB4|Mega Man}} || {{SortKey|025}} 25 || {{SortKey|102}} 102
|-
| {{SSB4|Meta Knight}} || {{SortKey|030}} 30 || {{SortKey|108/098}} 108/98
|-
| {{SSB4|Mewtwo}} || {{SortKey|030/021}} 30/21 || {{SortKey|090/086}} 90/85
|-
| {{SSB4|Mii Brawler}} || {{SortKey|030}} 30 || {{SortKey|100}} 100
|-
| {{SSB4|Mii Gunner}} || {{SortKey|005}} 5 (hits 1-6), {{SortKey|100}} 100 (hit 7) || {{SortKey|030}} 30 (hits 1-6), {{SortKey|193}} 193 (hit 7)
|-
| {{SSB4|Mii Swordfighter}} || {{SortKey|030}} 30 || {{SortKey|100/100/099/100}} 100/100/99/100
|-
| {{SSB4|Mr. Game & Watch}} || {{SortKey|044/048}} 44/48 || {{SortKey|100/091}} 100/91
|-
| {{SSB4|Ness}} || {{SortKey|070}} 70 || {{SortKey|067}} 67
|-
| {{SSB4|Olimar}} || {{SortKey|036}} 36 (R), {{SortKey|030}} 30 (Y), {{SortKey|030}} 30 (B), {{SortKey|024}} 24 (W), {{SortKey|042}} 42 (P) || {{SortKey|110.4}} 110.4 (R), {{SortKey|092}} 92 (Y), {{SortKey|092}} 92 (B), {{SortKey|073.6}} 73.6 (W) ,{{SortKey|128.8}} 128.8 (P)
|-
| {{SSB4|Pac-Man}} || {{SortKey|025}} 25 || {{SortKey|099}} 99
|-
| {{SSB4|Palutena}} || {{SortKey|040}} 40 || {{SortKey|097/96}} 97/96
|-
| {{SSB4|Peach}} || {{SortKey|080/080/080/086}} 80/80/80/86 (T), {{SortKey|065}} 65 (G), {{SortKey|070}} 70 (F) || {{SortKey|056/056/056/060}} 56/56/56/60 (T), {{SortKey|060}} 60 (G), {{SortKey|065}} 65 (F)
|-
| {{SSB4|Pikachu}} || {{SortKey|050}} 50 || {{SortKey|073}} 73
|-
| {{SSB4|Pit}} || {{SortKey|053/043/015/005}} 53/43/15/5 (hit 1), 42 (hit 2) || {{SortKey|100}} 100 (hit 1), 122 (hit 2)
|-
| {{SSB4|R.O.B.}} || {{SortKey|032}} 32 || {{SortKey|100}} 100
|-
| {{SSB4|Robin}} || {{SortKey|050}} 50 || {{SortKey|087}} 87
|-
| {{SSB4|Rosalina & Luma}} || {{SortKey|030}} 30 (R), {{SortKey|043}} 43 (L) || {{SortKey|111}} 111 (R), {{SortKey|165}} 165 (L)
|-
| {{SSB4|Roy}} || {{SortKey|070/070/030}} 70/70/30 || {{SortKey|070}} 70
|-
| {{SSB4|Ryu}} || {{SortKey|025}} 25 || {{SortKey|094}} 94
|-
| {{SSB4|Samus}} || {{SortKey|016/016/040}} 16/16/40 || {{SortKey|112/112/110}} 112/112/110
|-
| {{SSB4|Sheik}} || {{SortKey|062/047/045}} 53/43/15 (hit 1), 60 (hit 2) || {{SortKey|100}} 100 (hit 1), 109 (hit 2)
|-
| {{SSB4|Shulk}} || {{SortKey|028}} 28 (hit 1), 30 (hit 2) || {{SortKey|100}} 100 (hit 1), 115 (hit 2)
|-
| {{SSB4|Sonic}} || {{SortKey|030}} 30 || {{SortKey|101}} 101
|-
| {{SSB4|Toon Link}} || {{SortKey|049/054/056/060}} 49/54/56/60 (hit 1), 32/32/25 (hit 2) || {{SortKey|010}} 10 (hit 1), 130 (hit 2)
|-
| {{SSB4|Villager}} || {{SortKey|070}} 70 || {{SortKey|100}} 100
|-
| {{SSB4|Wario}} || {{SortKey|020}} 20 || {{SortKey|099}} 99
|-
| {{SSB4|Wii Fit Trainer}} || {{SortKey|026}} 26 || {{SortKey|106}} 106
|-
| {{SSB4|Yoshi}} || {{SortKey|030}} 30 || {{SortKey|097/098/097}} 97/98/97
|-
| {{SSB4|Zelda}} || {{SortKey|040/050}} 40/50 (hits 1-4), {{SortKey|037}} 37 (hit 5) || {{SortKey|100}} 100 (hits 1-4), {{SortKey|110}} 110 (hit 5)
|-
| {{SSB4|Zero Suit Samus}} || {{SortKey|050/068/072}} 50/68/72 (hit 1), 28 (hit 2) || {{SortKey|100}} 100 (hit 1), 106/109/109/109 (hit 2)
|}
|}


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