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{{Infobox Special Move
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|name=Double-Edge Dance
|image=[[File:DEDanceSSB4.jpg|300px]]
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'''Flame Dancing''' ({{ja|マーベラスコンビネーション|Māberasu Konbinēshon}}, ''Marvelous Combination''), often abbreviated '''DED''', is [[Roy]]'s [[side special move]].
'''Double-Edge Dance''' ({{ja|マーベラスコンビネーション|Māberasu Konbinēshon}}, ''Marvelous Combination''), often abbreviated '''DED''', is [[Roy]]'s [[side special move]].


It is a variation of [[Marth]]'s [[Dancing Blade]] (with which it shares its Japanese name), and has the same general behavior. However, the third hit inputted downwards and the last hit inputted in any direction deal a [[flame|fire]] effect.
It is a variation of [[Marth]]'s [[Dancing Blade]] (with which it shares its Japanese name), and has the same general behavior. However, the third hit inputted downwards and the last hit inputted in any direction deal a [[flame|fire]] effect.


==In ''[[Super Smash Bros. Melee]]''==
==In ''[[Super Smash Bros. Melee]]''==
[[File:Roy's Double Edge Dance Move.jpg|thumb|left|Flame Dancing's 4th slash inputted forward in ''Melee''.]]
[[File:Roy's Double Edge Dance Move.jpg|thumb|left|Double-Edge Dance's 4th slash inputted forward in ''Melee''.]]
This move is integral to Roy's metagame due to its [[range]], speed, and KO potential. It is particularly effective for [[approach]]ing, as the first hit can lead into a [[down tilt]], [[grab]], or the subsequent hits of the attack.  
This move is integral to Roy's metagame due to its [[range]], speed, and KO potential. It is particularly effective for [[approach]]ing, as the first hit can lead into a [[down tilt]], [[grab]], or the subsequent hits of the attack.  


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As with Dancing Blade in ''Brawl'' and ''Smash 4'', the first hit stalls Roy's movement in the air for a few frames, although this benefits Roy's recovery much less when compared to Marth as he has a higher falling speed. All hits of the attack now require less technical precision to input in a row, making the attack easier to combo, although the general nerf of Marth and his counterpart's Dancing Blade variants chaining together less reliably affects him as well. Despite this, Roy's sweetspot at his sword's hilt allows him to rack up damage much easier than Marth or Lucina by starting the move close to an opponent. However, the first hit has 2 more startup frames, and each hit deals less knockback and damage than in ''Melee'', although each individual hit has less startup.
As with Dancing Blade in ''Brawl'' and ''Smash 4'', the first hit stalls Roy's movement in the air for a few frames, although this benefits Roy's recovery much less when compared to Marth as he has a higher falling speed. All hits of the attack now require less technical precision to input in a row, making the attack easier to combo, although the general nerf of Marth and his counterpart's Dancing Blade variants chaining together less reliably affects him as well. Despite this, Roy's sweetspot at his sword's hilt allows him to rack up damage much easier than Marth or Lucina by starting the move close to an opponent. However, the first hit has 2 more startup frames, and each hit deals less knockback and damage than in ''Melee'', although each individual hit has less startup.


The third hit of the move no longer deals flame damage or does exceptional knockback; this has been moved to the fourth hit and the third hit makes combos into the fourth hit much easier compared to ''Melee''. Because of the new knockback placements for each attack, Flame Dancing is a much more reliable finishing move and combo tool in general compared to ''Melee'' due to the third hit's lower knockback, and its speed still makes it an integral part of Roy's moveset (the first hit coming out faster than the majority of Roy's tilts).
The third hit of the move no longer deals flame damage or does exceptional knockback; this has been moved to the fourth hit and the third hit makes combos into the fourth hit much easier compared to ''Melee''. Because of the new knockback placements for each attack, Double-Edge Dance is a much more reliable finishing move and combo tool in general compared to ''Melee'' due to the third hit's lower knockback, and its speed still makes it an integral part of Roy's moveset (the first hit coming out faster than the majority of Roy's tilts).


==Customization==
==Customization==
Special Move customization was added in ''[[Super Smash Bros. 4]]''. These are the variations:
Special Move customization was added in ''[[Super Smash Bros. 4]]''. These are the variations:
{{CustomSet/Single|Roy|Side|name=Flame Dancing|desc=Time your attacks to unleash a four-hit chain. Pressing up or down will change the attack.}}
{{CustomSet/Single|Roy|Side|name=Double-Edge Dance|desc=Time your attacks to unleash a four-hit chain. Pressing up or down will change the attack.}}
# '''Flame Dancing''': Default.
# '''Double-Edge Dance''': Default.
Like the other DLC characters, Roy lacks custom move variations.
Like the other DLC characters, Roy lacks custom move variations.
{{Special Moves|char=Roy}}
{{Special Moves|char=Roy}}

Revision as of 14:36, July 3, 2016

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The reason given for the merge is: Same Japanese name implies they're meant to be the same attack; exact same animation. See also the recent Electroshock/Upperdash Arm merge.. (Discuss)
Double-Edge Dance
DEDanceSSB4.jpg
Roy performing the move in Super Smash Bros. for Wii U.
User Roy
Universe Fire Emblem

Double-Edge Dance (マーベラスコンビネーション, Marvelous Combination), often abbreviated DED, is Roy's side special move.

It is a variation of Marth's Dancing Blade (with which it shares its Japanese name), and has the same general behavior. However, the third hit inputted downwards and the last hit inputted in any direction deal a fire effect.

In Super Smash Bros. Melee

Double-Edge Dance's 4th slash inputted forward in Melee.

This move is integral to Roy's metagame due to its range, speed, and KO potential. It is particularly effective for approaching, as the first hit can lead into a down tilt, grab, or the subsequent hits of the attack.

The first two hits of the four hit combo are relatively weak and easily crouch canceled by opponents, but they will come out no matter how quickly they are inputted. For the third and fourth hits, the player must wait a few frames between inputs or else the attacks will not come out. The tradeoff for the difficulty in inputting the later hits is significantly higher knockback, which can knock over opponents trying to crouch cancel.

The third hit of the combination inputted upwards has a meteor smash hitbox, producing a slightly diagonal trajectory if the sourspot doesn't hit. On grounded opponents, it will knock them into the air and set up for the fourth hit. Inputted forwards, the third hit deals excellent knockback and can be used as a KO move at higher percentages. The third hit inputted downwards produces a flame effect and can knock over opponents trying to crouch cancel. Unusually, while the third hit forwards has higher base knockback, its growth is actually smaller than Dancing Blade's version, meaning it is overall less powerful at higher percentages, while also being harder to link the fourth hit together with the third hit at lower percentages.

With the exception of the downwards input, the final hits of DED deal the most knockback compared to the other hits. The upwards input has high vertical range and high knockback. The down input actually deals multiple hits, and while it deals little knockback, its long range and duration make it effective for shield stabbing and knocking down opponents attempting to crouch cancel. Compared to the other inputs, the forward one is lackluster, and rarely used.

In Super Smash Bros. 4

Roy again uses the Double Edge Dance in SSB4, where it has been updated to use Marth's Dancing Blade animations from Brawl and SSB4, making it one of Roy's only attacks that has not gained an animation distinct from Marth. Its many attacks have gained different attributes when compared to Melee, making its first few hits act similar to Dancing Blade, although the third and final hits have been slightly changed.

As with Dancing Blade in Brawl and Smash 4, the first hit stalls Roy's movement in the air for a few frames, although this benefits Roy's recovery much less when compared to Marth as he has a higher falling speed. All hits of the attack now require less technical precision to input in a row, making the attack easier to combo, although the general nerf of Marth and his counterpart's Dancing Blade variants chaining together less reliably affects him as well. Despite this, Roy's sweetspot at his sword's hilt allows him to rack up damage much easier than Marth or Lucina by starting the move close to an opponent. However, the first hit has 2 more startup frames, and each hit deals less knockback and damage than in Melee, although each individual hit has less startup.

The third hit of the move no longer deals flame damage or does exceptional knockback; this has been moved to the fourth hit and the third hit makes combos into the fourth hit much easier compared to Melee. Because of the new knockback placements for each attack, Double-Edge Dance is a much more reliable finishing move and combo tool in general compared to Melee due to the third hit's lower knockback, and its speed still makes it an integral part of Roy's moveset (the first hit coming out faster than the majority of Roy's tilts).

Customization

Special Move customization was added in Super Smash Bros. 4. These are the variations:

1. Double-Edge Dance
Double-Edge Dance
"Time your attacks to unleash a four-hit chain. Pressing up or down will change the attack."
  1. Double-Edge Dance: Default.

Like the other DLC characters, Roy lacks custom move variations.