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 ::::::::Thank you. [[User:Scr7|{{Color|#0000FF"|S}}{{Color|#7F7FFF|c}}{{Color|#00FFFF|r}}]][[User talk:Scr7|{{Color|#FF7F00|7}}]][[File:Wolfsig.png|19px|link=Special:Contributions/Scr7]] [[Special:Editcount/Scr7|{{Color|#FF0000|<nowiki>=D</nowiki>}}]] 15:26, 21 August 2013 (EDT)
 :::::::::Separate hits of the same attack count as parts of the same attack and should be treated as such. The same thing applies for this as it would for special moves like Dancing Blade; yes, there are different parts to the attack, but they certainly are not so individually important that they merit individual articles. They can all be easily contained on a single page. Essentially, if attack B can only be executed as a continuing part of attack A, there's no reason to give them separate pages. [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 15:37, 21 August 2013 (EDT)
+::::::::::''Seperate hits of the same attack''
+::::::::::They do count as different attacks, the term "neutral attack" itself doesn't count as an attack when you have the names like "neutral attack 1".
+::::::::::''The same thing applies for this as it would for special moves like Dancing Blade; yes, there are different parts to the attack, but they certainly are not so individually important that they merit individual articles''
+::::::::::Is Dancing Blade a neutral attack? No. All of its hits are actually supposed to be just variations of each other. Hits of a neutral attack are always different in one way or another, even with two attacks that look similar (like the first and second hits of Mario's neutral attack - they have different uses).
+::::::::::[[User:Scr7|{{Color|#0000FF"|S}}{{Color|#7F7FFF|c}}{{Color|#00FFFF|r}}]][[User talk:Scr7|{{Color|#FF7F00|7}}]][[File:Wolfsig.png|19px|link=Special:Contributions/Scr7]] [[Special:Editcount/Scr7|{{Color|#FF0000|<nowiki>=D</nowiki>}}]] 15:55, 21 August 2013 (EDT)
 :::::::::How are the separate hits of Mario's neutral attack so different in technical data and functioning that they need their own separate articles that couldn't fit on one page? [[User:Ac2k|<span style="color: red;">'''Awesome'''</span>]] [[User talk:Ac2k|<span style="color: red;">'''Cardinal'''</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Ac2k|<span style="color: red;">'''2000'''</span>]] 15:41, 21 August 2013 (EDT)
+::::::::::Because they're different attacks with different uses, dumbass. The first and second hits appear to be very similar. However they have different uses. The first hit is useful for jab locking while the second is useful for jab cancels. The former cannot jab cancel reliably and the latter cannot jab lock at all. That's just an example. And they can certainly have different frame data - they don't exactly have the same hitbox, do they? [[User:Scr7|{{Color|#0000FF"|S}}{{Color|#7F7FFF|c}}{{Color|#00FFFF|r}}]][[User talk:Scr7|{{Color|#FF7F00|7}}]][[File:Wolfsig.png|19px|link=Special:Contributions/Scr7]] [[Special:Editcount/Scr7|{{Color|#FF0000|<nowiki>=D</nowiki>}}]] 15:55, 21 August 2013 (EDT)
 '''Support''' All three of the hitbox pages are too small to be separate articles. <span style="font-family:RAGE ITALIC">[[User:Terrible|<span style="color:grey">Terrible</span>]] [[User talk:Terrible|<span style="color:green">is</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Terrible|<span style="color:grey">Terrible</span>]]</span> 13:45, 21 August 2013 (EDT)
 :No. None of these articles are stubs, they all have enough data to be seperate articles. A lot of moveset subpages on more minor/less notable moves are small like that anyway. [[User:Scr7|{{Color|#0000FF"|S}}{{Color|#7F7FFF|c}}{{Color|#00FFFF|r}}]][[User talk:Scr7|{{Color|#FF7F00|7}}]][[File:Wolfsig.png|19px|link=Special:Contributions/Scr7]] [[Special:Editcount/Scr7|{{Color|#FF0000|<nowiki>=D</nowiki>}}]] 13:51, 21 August 2013 (EDT)