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Round 200: Multi-Perennial Bicentennial

Ganondorf vs. Mewtwo

		Winner!! undecided ~ to ~
One, the King of the Gerudos, the one man in a century that will do anything to get his people out of the desolate desert. The other, a manmade freak of nature, a wandering one-of-a-kind species with no sense of purpose. Both commanding supernatural forces and willing to call upon the dark side of it when necessary - who wins this multifaceted throwdown?
Votes for Ganondorf I like Ganon. DoctorPain99 23:21, 16 August 2013 (EDT) He's so great, he can beat anybody in Melee, the best character of all, and I enjoy him and is better than the rest. Conny 23:27, 16 August 2013 (EDT) 75.156.151.217 00:18, 17 August 2013 (EDT) Chuck the Duck (talk) 00:52, 17 August 2013 (EDT)			Votes for Mewtwo Mewtwo was the first character I ever played in Smash Bros., so there's a lot of sentimental value there. --Timson622222 (talk) 23:33, 16 August 2013 (EDT) Because of my sig icon. Dots The Gangnum Style 23:38, 16 August 2013 (EDT) Mewtwo is among my favorite fictional characters of all time. Also, I want to let others know I cleared The Showdown as Mewtwo. Not kidding!71.105.121.171 00:06, 17 August 2013 (EDT) Although not great in-game, I want him back in Smash. --ﾚ∆ㄅ 00:35, 17 August 2013 (EDT) Growing up, I would constantly go to my friend's house to play Melee. My friend lacked a memory card for his GameCube, and thus it was impossible to save any unlocked characters. A visit to my cousin one day enlightened me to the full extent of the Melee cast. Imagine my surprise to see Mewtwo! I COULD PLAY AS MEWTWO! I still remember my first encounter with Mewtwo in my first Pokemon game. Even though he wasn't that great, the fact of the matter is that this was a much simpler time; No tier list, no competition, just simple and friendly games, where I could play as one of my favorite Pokemon. Sold. --HavocReaper48 01:01, 17 August 2013 (EDT) Mewtwo is certainly a very fun character to play as. Boo Buddy 03:35, 17 August 2013 (EDT) Quite simply my favourite Pokémon of all-time. 86.160.20.78 06:56, 17 August 2013 (EDT) I never really use ganondorf.TheAtomicFire 08:36, 17 August 2013 (EDT) Because I spent countless hours trying to unlock him. ChuckNorris 09:43, 17 August 2013 (EDT) I love the movie with Mew-two in it.Plus he's a good fighter in Melee. 75.156.151.215 10:16 17 August 2013 I always loved playing as Mewtwo. He was a completely different type of character in Melee while Ganondorf is a clone of Captain Falcon.24.45.189.29 10:49, 17 August 2013 (EDT) I like Mewtwo more. Scr7 12:02, 17 August 2013 (EDT) Mewtwo has got to be the best character in my opinion in Melee personality wise. I hate a majority of his special moves, but his recovery, forward aerial, and neutral special are all just so versatile. Washi 13:46, 17 August 2013 (EDT) For me, this all comes down to who I like more in Smash King...and Mew-senpai is actually significantly less of an ass.MegiBeelzebub 13:54, 17 August 2013 (EDT) Underestimated, underappreciated... Bring him back! DarkFox01Choose your character! 13:57, 17 August 2013 (EDT) Because Pokémon, plain and simple. JamesHeart 14:04, 17 August 2013 (EDT) I hate his new form but the old one is boss. Terrible is Terrible 15:05, 17 August 2013 (EDT)
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Corneria vs. Venom

		Winner!! undecided ~ to ~
Two perspectives of the Great Fox, one head-on and the other sidewinding. With configuration delights the nation?
Votes for Corneria I like Corneria. DoctorPain99 23:21, 16 August 2013 (EDT) Corneria isn't the most balanced of stages, but at least it's fun to play on, especially for free-for-all four-player smashing. Venom is small and feels cramped while still being imbalanced. --Timson622222 (talk) 23:33, 16 August 2013 (EDT) SNES Corneria music. Dots The Gangnum Style 23:38, 16 August 2013 (EDT) More running space.71.105.121.171 00:06, 17 August 2013 (EDT) Great stage. --ﾚ∆ㄅ 00:34, 17 August 2013 (EDT) More blandaced. Chuck the Duck (talk) 00:52, 17 August 2013 (EDT) Corneria's the better planet...and stage. 86.160.20.78 06:56, 17 August 2013 (EDT) This stage is actually pretty unique compared to the other one. Also I find it more enjoyable. ----- Conanshinichi 08:32, 17 August 2013 (EDT) I don't like the design of sector z.TheAtomicFire DO A BARREL ROLL! ChuckNorris 09:43, 17 August 2013 (EDT) This one is sooo much more enjoyable! 75.156.151.215 10:13 17 August 2013 More fun to play on IMO. Scr7 12:02, 17 August 2013 (EDT) This is my favorite starting place I like to fight most in Melee. (aside from Temple.) I really don't know why, I just love it here. Washi 13:46, 17 August 2013 (EDT) My favorite banned stage in all 3 of the games so far. I love how it builds on the crappy Sector Z and makes the concept awesome. DarkFox01Choose your character! 13:57, 17 August 2013 (EDT) I actually like how this stage is as fun to play on as it is to look at. Plus, it isn't a Doom map look-a-like.MegiBeelzebub 14:00, 17 August 2013 (EDT)			Votes for Venom More platforms mean this is by far the best stage in Melee and is the best stage I have ever seen in my life. Conny 23:27, 16 August 2013 (EDT) 75.156.151.217 00:18, 17 August 2013 (EDT) I was disappointed to not see this stage return for Brawl. --HavocReaper48 01:01, 17 August 2013 (EDT) I do not like either of these stages, but I pick this one because the Arwings are much less annoying. Boo Buddy 03:35, 17 August 2013 (EDT) I'll vote based on music. JamesHeart 14:04, 17 August 2013 (EDT) The music is stuck in my head! Terrible is Terrible 15:05, 17 August 2013 (EDT)
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Samus (SSB) vs. Pichu (SSBM) vs. Ganondorf (SSBB)

Winner!! undecided ~ to ~ to ~
These unlucky Smashers have been trapped at the bottom of their respective tier lists, with their distinctive attributes conspiring against them in competitive play. Which will squeeze out a win for once?
Votes for Samus (SSB) So much potential that hasn't even been seen, she is arguably the best out of the three and can beat anyone. She's so cool and Samus is awesome. Whoo! Conny 23:29, 16 August 2013 (EDT) Samus is the best character out of all three, and the least worst in-game. --ﾚ∆ㄅ 00:34, 17 August 2013 (EDT) Chuck the Duck (talk) 00:52, 17 August 2013 (EDT) She might have not been good in this game, but she was a good character in Melee and Brawl. Pichu was horribly bad and Ganondorf was always a slower and almost unusable version of Captain Falcon. But it's just my opinion24.45.189.29 10:53, 17 August 2013 (EDT) I like Samus the most out of these three. JamesHeart 14:04, 17 August 2013 (EDT)		Votes for Pichu (SSBM) It's a Pokemon and it suits my playstyle the best out of the three. Also, how come Pichu's in this match instead of Kirby? Kirby lost that battle against Pichu and is now at the very bottom of the tier list.71.105.121.171 00:06, 17 August 2013 (EDT) Cute. 75.156.151.217 00:18, 17 August 2013 (EDT) Used to play Pichu all the time. Not familiar with the other 2. Oh and Ganondorf sucks so bad so he won't get it. ----- Conanshinichi 08:30, 17 August 2013 (EDT) I can't stand to play as those characters in those games, but I still have good memories of playing as pichu when I was a kid.TheAtomicFire 08:58, 17 August 2013 (EDT) Because the Pichu Bros. in the anime made me smile. ChuckNorris 09:43, 17 August 2013 (EDT) One vote for the cute electric suicide mouse!--Cakeizgud (talk) 10:00, 17 August 2013 (EDT) I love Pichu sooo much! 75.156.151.217 10:11 17 August 2013 Scr7 12:02, 17 August 2013 (EDT) Pichu actually has some good power behind his attacks, and in my opinion, the best recovery in the game. Washi 13:46, 17 August 2013 (EDT) He's cute, fun to play as, and a very interesting addition to Melee. And he is so manly that he hurts himself. DarkFox01Choose your character! 13:57, 17 August 2013 (EDT) I just got a Pichu in Pokemon Pearl. Terrible is Terrible 15:05, 17 August 2013 (EDT)		Votes for Ganondorf (SSBB) I like Ganon. DoctorPain99 23:21, 16 August 2013 (EDT) Out of all the low tier characters listed in the voting, Brawl Ganon is the most fun to play for me. --Timson622222 (talk) 23:33, 16 August 2013 (EDT) Dair. Dots The Gangnum Style 23:38, 16 August 2013 (EDT) Down Aerial. --HavocReaper48 01:01, 17 August 2013 (EDT) More fun to play than the other two. Boo Buddy 03:35, 17 August 2013 (EDT)
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Mario and Yoshi vs. Samus Unmasked

		Winner!! undecided ~ to ~
Melee's two event-only trophies are up next. Is the Mario or Metroid collectible more super?
Votes for Mario and Yoshi Freakin' Super Mario World! JamesHeart 23:36, 16 August 2013 (EDT) The good old days. 75.156.151.217 00:18, 17 August 2013 (EDT) A good duo. Boo Buddy 03:35, 17 August 2013 (EDT) Yoshi's face is priceless. ----- Conanshinichi 08:27, 17 August 2013 (EDT) Super Mario world!TheAtomicFire 08:41, 17 August 2013 (EDT) Why isn't Tamagon in this fight? ChuckNorris 09:43, 17 August 2013 (EDT) I just love Yoshi so much, how could I NOT pick this?--Cakeizgud (talk) 10:04, 17 August 2013 (EDT) I'm not gonna lie, Samus is cool, but I have to say Mario and Yoshi. 75.156.151.217 10:09 17 August 2013 It gives me more memories. 24.45.189.29 10:54, 17 August 2013 (EDT) Scr7 12:02, 17 August 2013 (EDT) I like Mario more than Samus. Washi 13:46, 17 August 2013 (EDT) I chose this one because this trophey DOESN'T have a horribly rendered face of Emma Stone on it!MegiBeelzebub 13:57, 17 August 2013 (EDT) Super Mario Advance 2 was my first ever handheld game, and I was heartbroken when our GBA SP was stolen... with SMA2 in it! Either way, Super Mario World is an amazing game, and this reminds me of it when I see it. DarkFox01is a BitF fan 14:02, 17 August 2013 (EDT) This game does it. Terrible is Terrible 15:05, 17 August 2013 (EDT)			Votes for Samus Unmasked I like Samus Unmasked. DoctorPain99 23:21, 16 August 2013 (EDT) Best trophy in the game, and is the best of them all. No other is cooler. Conny 23:27, 16 August 2013 (EDT) In case of people thought Samus was male, this trophy proves them wrong. Dots The Gangnum Style 23:38, 16 August 2013 (EDT) This trophy reveals more than the other one. Yeah, we all know who Mario and Yoshi are, but this one gives away Samus's gender, something that was quite a mystery back in the day.71.105.121.171 00:06, 17 August 2013 (EDT) Chuck the Duck (talk) 00:52, 17 August 2013 (EDT) Yoshi will eat Samus regardless of how much armor she is wearing. --HavocReaper48 01:01, 17 August 2013 (EDT)
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Villager vs. Wii Fit Trainer vs. Mega Man

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Winner!! undecided ~ to ~ to ~
Finally, it's time for SSB4's three initial newcomers. Will it be the kleptomaniac kid, the fitness fanatic, or the Blue Bomber?
Votes for Villager 75.156.151.217 00:18, 17 August 2013 (EDT) Although I like all the newcomrs so far, I'll probably be playing the Villager the most when the game comes out. --ﾚ∆ㄅ 00:34, 17 August 2013 (EDT) He fights with an axe. TIMBER! Boo Buddy 03:35, 17 August 2013 (EDT) I'll always like Animal Crossing. 75.156.151.217 10:05, 17 August 2013 Does this look like the face of mercy? JamesHeart 14:04, 17 August 2013 (EDT)		Votes for Wii Fit Trainer Best character for Brawl 4. Conny 23:27, 16 August 2013 (EDT) My SSB4 main already.Chuck the Duck (talk) 00:52, 17 August 2013 (EDT) The fact that absolutely no one wanted her in makes her that much more awesome. --HavocReaper48 01:01, 17 August 2013 (EDT) Killing everything with the Wii Fit trainer? Yes please!--Cakeizgud (talk) 09:57, 17 August 2013 (EDT) Mega Man? The most hyped third party character after Sonic, who had his turn in Brawl. Villager? Still a relatively easily predicted newcomer. But Wii Fit Trainer? Totally out of left field. infernape612 11:50, 17 August 2013 (EDT)		Votes for Mega Man I like Mega Man. DoctorPain99 23:21, 16 August 2013 (EDT) Mega Man makes the most sense to be appearing in a Smash game. --Timson622222 (talk) 23:33, 16 August 2013 (EDT) Mega Man X is an awesome game. Dots The Gangnum Style 23:38, 16 August 2013 (EDT) I'm one of those people who got really excited when I found out Mega Man is in the next Smash game. I really enjoy his franchise and look forward to playing as him in Smash. Besides, I have yet to play Animal Crossing or Wii Fit.71.105.121.171 00:06, 17 August 2013 (EDT) Super Fighting Robot - Megaman! 86.160.20.78 06:56, 17 August 2013 (EDT) My favorite video game character. Nuff Said.TheAtomicFire 09:00, 17 August 2013 (EDT) Now I really want to get an NES Mega Man game. ChuckNorris 09:43, 17 August 2013 (EDT) Robots are cool. Scr7 12:02, 17 August 2013 (EDT) MEGA. UPPER. Washi 13:46, 17 August 2013 (EDT) Took long enough, Sakurai! I'm going to play as him as soon as I can! DarkFox01BILL! 14:00, 17 August 2013 (EDT) Villager is creepy, WFT is in the bottom of my SSB4 tier list, but Mega Man is god. Terrible is Terrible 15:05, 17 August 2013 (EDT)
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Round 199: Samus vs. Ridley

		Winner!! Samus 17 to 15.5
The classic matchup of ressurection versus revenge. End description.
Votes for Samus I hate Ridley because everyone wants him in SSB4 and that can't work! Terrible is Terrible 11:01, 10 August 2013 (EDT) Samus has killed Ridley multiple times. The reverse isn't true. Mr. Anontalk 11:31, 10 August 2013 (EDT) He has an awkward figure that wouldn't really transition well into smash. Keep him as a boss. DoctorPain99 16:17, 10 August 2013 (EDT) Super Metroid, anyone? Conny 16:42, 10 August 2013 (EDT) 198.53.20.219 20:32, 10 August 2013 (EDT) Ridley is just creeping me out.. because.. that face... and besides does ppl really think that Ridley should be in ssb4? Pfft.. Cobravictim (talk) Samus has killed Ridley a ton of times, making her dominant. Also, I don't think that Ridley shoud be in SSB4, in my opinion it's just ridiculous. No matter what, it's not going to happen.--Iguy2002 (talk) 17:33, 12 August 2013 (EDT) I happen to like Samus's design more and think her attacks are all around better then Ridley's attacks shown off in the Metroid series. --Water, Earth, Fire, Air (talk) 12:11, 13 August 2013 (EDT) Better character design imo. LightningBlue 13:10, 13 August 2013 (EDT) Regardless of whether or not Ridley would work for SSB4, Samus still kicks his ass.--Starman125 (talk) 15:28, 13 August 2013 (EDT) Actually, I decided I like Samus more. ZSS is fun, I like her backstory, and I've generally not liked bosses as characters, even if they're designed cool like Ridley. --Timson622222 (talk) 18:27, 13 August 2013 (EDT) Samus' artwork in SSB4 has her in the "Ezio" pose. Sold. --HavocReaper48 23:58, 13 August 2013 (EDT) Bandit 19:41, 14 August 2013 (EDT) I like Samus a lot especially how she sometime takes her suit off5.0.43.159 17:12, 15 August 2013 (EDT) I like her attacks and design more,so Samus for the win!--Cakeizgud (talk) 19:10, 15 August 2013 (EDT) ZERO SUIT SAMUS! Final Smash! Female. Hot. Enough said. Oh, I'm voting for Power Suit Samus? Eh, same person. SeanWheeler (talk) 12:14, 16 August 2013 (EDT) Half-votes I don't wanna argue with those who think that Ridley could work in SSB4, so I'll just insert my vote and go away.ToonMegaman (talk) 16:54, 10 August 2013 (EDT) Well....I prefer Ridley but I guess I'll vote for Samus cause she always beats the crud out of Ridley. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 107.211.34.20 (talk • contribs) 17:36, 10 August 2013 (EDT)			Votes for Ridley I like Ridley. Omega Tyrant 11:10, 10 August 2013 (EDT) Space dragons are cool. Scr7 11:29, 10 August 2013 (EDT) 'Cause I don't want the outcome to be obvious, what with the hero always prevailing in the end kind of thing. Also, at least we always see Ridley's face, unlike Samus. 71.105.121.171 11:43, 10 August 2013 (EDT) Ridley is cool. Boo Buddy 12:46, 10 August 2013 (EDT) I'm voting for Ridley just because of how stupid Terrible's reason is. Toast ltimatum 12:57, 10 August 2013 (EDT) Oh man, this one is close. I never really liked Samus as a fighter, so my vote is for the Pterodactyl-Dinosaur-Space-Monster-Thingy. Washi 13:03, 10 August 2013 (EDT) This is enough of a reason alone. DarkFox01I see them up ahead. Let’s rock and roll! 19:05, 10 August 2013 (EDT) Who doesn't like big and cool space dragons?TheAtomicFire 10:16, 11 August 2013 (EDT) Because Ridley is awesome. Superstarxalien169's smashbox. (talk) 22:47, 11 August 2013 (EDT) I would laugh so hard if he's a character in SSB4. Dots The Bold 00:33, 12 August 2013 (EDT) Ridley might be too big to be playable in SSB4, but Ridley's so awesome, he has a chance. But Samus is nothing compared to Ridley. --LavaKirby 12:12, 12 August 2013 (EDT) Ridley is just awesome. Awesomelink234 (talk) 21:13, 12 August 2013 (EDT) herp a derp ridley's too big to be a character in smash bros ChuckNorris 10:27, 13 August 2013 (EDT) RIPLEY SCOTT!!!!!!....oh wait.....XENOMORPH!!!!I mean.......dammit.MegiBeelzebub 19:26, 13 August 2013 (EDT) He is the char I want most for Smash 4. Well, next to Lara Croft... RoyboyX Talk 19:44, 13 August 2013 (EDT) Half-votes I would vote for Samus, but Ridley needs some attentionn. He needs to be in Smash bros.! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.169.38.128 (talk • contribs) 04:49, 15 August 2013‎
Comments Terrible, that's kind of a stupid reason to not vote for Ridley. Besides, It can work for him to be in SSB4.TheAtomicFire 10:12, 11 August 2013 (EDT) Any comments about the fight should be left in the comments section. The following kinds of comments are not allowed: Comments about other users' opinions. You can point out that a user may have gotten a fact wrong, but you can't say things such as "That's not a good reason" or "But the other guy is better because X". Users can vote for any reason they want; trying to argue with someone's opinion generally has no positive outcome, in addition to simply inflating the comments section of an already large page. Don't try to argue with another user on Smash Arena. Omega Tyrant 10:35, 11 August 2013 (EDT) This is also aimed at DP99 and Toast, don't address other users' reasoning or call their reasoning dumb, don't start arguments on Smash Arena. Omega Tyrant 10:37, 11 August 2013 (EDT) I just realized that IP 198.53.20.219 has already voted. If that's the exact same person, the extra vote should be removed.71.105.121.171 22:40, 11 August 2013 (EDT) Really people, Smash Arena is not for arguing and this isn't about arguing if Ridley should be in Smash 4 or not. Stop making votes arguing about it. Omega Tyrant 13:05, 13 August 2013 (EDT)

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