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::This is for you Toomai, I know CPUs are easy, I just rarely use Ganondorf, so why say I can beat anything but computers with him when I can't,so yeah.....[[User:Alucard|Alucard]] --Nothing I shoot ever gets back up again 16:24, 12 June 2013 (EDT)
::This is for you Toomai, I know CPUs are easy, I just rarely use Ganondorf, so why say I can beat anything but computers with him when I can't,so yeah.....[[User:Alucard|Alucard]] --Nothing I shoot ever gets back up again 16:24, 12 June 2013 (EDT)
:::I'm not mad at you. But posts like the one you just made, where as far as I can tell you imply that pro-tier people are ignorant of anti-tier peoples' arguments, do not help anybody. If you agree that people are set in their ways then arguing is a waste of both sides' time. [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[Image:Toomai.png|20px|link=User:Toomai/Bin|???]] The Glow 17:18, 12 June 2013 (EDT)
:::I'm not mad at you. But posts like the one you just made, where as far as I can tell you imply that pro-tier people are ignorant of anti-tier peoples' arguments, do not help anybody. If you agree that people are set in their ways then arguing is a waste of both sides' time. [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[Image:Toomai.png|20px|link=User:Toomai/Bin|???]] The Glow 17:18, 12 June 2013 (EDT)
:::"''quit being such a prick,the "deluded asses" as you call people who are against tiers have made valid points''"
:::Did you even read the treatise we have that fully explains how each anti-tier argument is bullshit? Come up with some new arguments that don't go against all common sense and logic, while not being so grossly defensive and stubborn, and maybe then you won't come off as an deluded ass.
:::"''but you "deluded asses"''"
:::Ah nice, you're at a fifth grade level and can blindly spit back insults. You're looking really smart.
:::"''people play differently''"
:::If you're referring to ultra casual play with all items on and all wacky stages with 99 minute coin matches, you do realise that the '''tier list is applicable to competitive play only'''. If you're referring to different styles of someone making Ganondorf equal to Snake, then go enter some tournaments, and so show how your "different style" with Ganondorf allows you to win tournaments just as well as Snake. If you are correct, you should prove us wrong, and Kirbys in Melee and Ganondorfs in Brawl should have had tournament success by now.
:::"''if the tier list was truly accurate and able to decide what the likely out come of the match will be''"
:::'''Read the damn treatise and the full article before making terrible illogical strawman arguments that have been refuted and refuted'''. Firstly, the tier list assumes '''highest level play''' with all players at '''equal skill'''. It additionally is a ranking of '''each character's competitive capabilities and how likely they are to do well in a tournament'''. The tier list '''is not used for individual matchups'''. You beating up your little brother's Meta Knight with Ganondorf proves nothing, as '''you are not at equal skill, nor are you the highest level of play'''. Beat {{Sm|Mew2King}} in tournament with Ganondorf, and then you could have some merit to your argument that Ganondorf is better than what everyone says.
:::"''it will never be accurate or even effective at deciding the utility and of each character''"
:::Look up tournament results kid, the best players of higher tier characters perform consistently better than the best players of lower tier characters. Here's the articles for [[Apex 2012]], [[SKTAR]], [[SRT]], and [[Apex 2013]], the most prestigious Brawl nationals in the past year and a half. Tell me how many Ganondorfs and other low tier characters you see high up, compared to the amount of Meta Knights and other high tier characters. These tier lists are certainly accurate in their intended function of ranking how competitively viable each character is.
:::"''is stupid because it does not agree with you, you and every person who believes that the tier list is effective are deluded''"
:::You really are just in fifth grade, huh? Surely you can come up with something better than blindly parroting what the other person said towards you? Do you even know what the word deluded means?
:::"''especially since any argument that any of you people can come up with is basically "we Think that the tier list is accurate and therefore any other argument is wrong"''"
:::ANNNDDDDDD you show right here you never fucking read the treatise, or anything else we said. Alright here's the thing, if you post again, strawman and parrot the same old anti-tier arguments, clearly showing you haven't read the treatise, '''you will be blocked for disruption'''. If you're going to seriously argue for anti-tier, '''read the damn treatise, don't strawman us, and come up with some new anti-tier arguments that haven't been refuted a thousand times already'''.
:::"''I can understand that you are set in your ways but stop pretending that you are right.''"
:::Lets see, anti-tier's arguments have been refuted countless times and they haven't brought up a legit counter-refute ever, logic proves you wrong, empirical results prove you wrong, common sense proves you wrong. As I said before, if tiers don't exist and every character is equal, explain to me how Kirby is equal to Jigglypuff in Melee, and how Ganondorf is equal to Snake in Brawl, when the latter character can do nearly everything the former can do and more, while being statistically superior in about every way.
:::"''I know CPUs are easy, I just rarely use Ganondorf, so why say I can beat anything but computers with him when I can't,so yeah.''"
:::Then you shouldn't be bringing them up in a tier argument just like a retarded anti-tier kid does. And flat out admitting you couldn't do what you claim significantly undermines what you have to say.
:::Also, use some damn punctuation, that post of yours was nearly unreadable, and showing no care to your punctuation and grammar reflects on you extremely poorly, lessening your already horrid credibility ever farther. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[Image: TyranitarMS.png ]] 18:26, 12 June 2013 (EDT)


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