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 ::::You say I have a bad argument but then argue that you should ban ignore because it "makes users look like they're an ass." Yeah, whatever. Because we can't have that. <span style="font-family:Triforce, sans-serif;">'''[[User:Dr. Pain 99|<font color=navy>D<font color=#190080>o<font color=#310080>c<font color=#490080>t<font color=#620080>o<font color=purple>rP</font>a</font>i</font>n</font>9</font>9</font>]]'''</span>[[Image:DP99Majora.png]] 18:48, 5 April 2013 (EDT)
 ::::I've pointed out that there exist cases where using ignore would be acceptable. You pointed out cases where it would be unacceptable. Cool. Just because it might not be acceptable in many cases doesn't mean it should be banned. <span style="font-family:Triforce, sans-serif;">'''[[User:Dr. Pain 99|<font color=navy>D<font color=#190080>o<font color=#310080>c<font color=#490080>t<font color=#620080>o<font color=purple>rP</font>a</font>i</font>n</font>9</font>9</font>]]'''</span>[[Image:DP99Majora.png]] 18:49, 5 April 2013 (EDT)
+::::You're argument also hinges on hypotheticals. If I'm ignoring a user who has a history of harassing me, there's no reason why I should be forced to see his or her posts. Banning the ignore user function creates an unnecessary restriction. If someone is abusing the ignore function to the point where it is impossible to contact, then that violates existing rules of the IRC, notably those regarding idling and lurking. Other than that, just because you personally find users who use it annoying does not mean it should be an enforced rule on IRC.
+::::When we discussed other examples on IRC, I brought up PM harassment. You countered that this violates existing rules. However, it is not always the case that an admin is active on the channel. If an admin is inactive, there is no reason why users should be forced to see posts they find harassing. The case can be made that in mod inactivity, the ignore function is acceptable, but if we further extend this to an admin disagreeing with a user over what is disruptive. In this case, ignoring the user I find disruptive causes no harm to the IRC, and if the user I ignore desperately needs to contact me they can ask someone else to send me a message.
+::::Finally, don't strawman me over 1RV. Clearly there is community dispute over your change, and there are users who dispute that this is "common sense". Instead of claiming users who disagree with you lack skills in logic, how about you give a substantial reason for your proposal that goes beyond "I find it rude" and "I haven't needed to use it."? [[User:Mr. Anon|<font color="grey">'''Mr. '''</font><font color="midnightblue">'''Anon'''</font>]][[File:Anon.png|23px|link=Special:Random]][[User talk:Mr. Anon|''<span style="color: black;">talk</span>'']]  18:52, 5 April 2013 (EDT)