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This forum has the purpose of helping to select what battles will eventually take place in the Smash Arena. If you would like to make a suggestion, please feel free to leave it here. New suggestions are placed at the bottom of the page. Be sure to state your reason you suggested it and put the support, reject, and comments sections underneath it.

Like the idea? Be sure to give it your support. Note that this page is not to be used for the actual voting between fighters; that happens in the Arena itself. Remember, the combatants don't necessarily have to be able to fight each other normally in Smash Bros.

Rules

Posting suggestions

Only Smash Bros.-related fights are permitted. Fights don't have to be between playable characters, but the combatants must have appeared in at least one Smash Bros. game.
If there are already 10 open suggestions, you should probably reconsider adding a new one. If there are 15, it is highly recommended you do not. There is no limit to the number of open suggestions, but having too many clutters the page and makes it more difficult to keep track of.
Check this list to view the fights that have been done. Repeat fights are permitted if they occurred 100 or more rounds ago. As matchups over 100 rounds ago are moved off that particular list, the list is the definitive source on what can't be repeated. Note that repeats close to this cutoff may still be valid if the queue is full enough that the fight's acceptance will allow it to be outside the 100-round zone.
Do not post more than one suggestion at a time. Each user may post one suggestion per week (i.e. one every seven days).
Sign your suggestions/votes/comments with ~~~~ and a # in front of it (you don't necessarily have to put # in the comments sections, but you do have to sign with ~~~~).
Place new suggestions at the bottom of the page.
You can retract and remove your own suggestion, but it still counts as your suggestion for that week.
Similarly to the above, you cannot edit a suggestion once people have started to vote on it. Editing the description is fine; just don't replace, add, or remove combatants.

Voting and comments

Don't vote for your own suggestion.
Post why you support/oppose. Don't just say, "Oh, this is a cool idea". Explain why you like/don't like the fight. This is not required but adds credence to your opinion - remember, suggestions are not accepted or rejected based on a simple vote count.
The comments section is to be used for relevant comments only.
Do not use this page to argue with other users over their reasons and opinions. You can civilly point out an inconsistency or mistake in their description, but if you say things like, "That's stupid", that could potentially start an argument in the comments, you are breaching this rule.
Do not make this page into the Smash Arena itself. This is for deciding what goes there, not voting on the winner.

Acceptance or rejection

The SA operator(s) has final say over all the fights. Suggestions and comments are merely a way for the community to influence the fights, and can be used, edited, or ignored at the operator(s)'s discretion.
Acceptance of fights is not based simply on votes. The votes are used to judge the community's opinion of the matchup; again it is solely the operator(s)'s decision on what the bouts are.
Suggestions are purged every time a new Smash Arena round is posted. It is at this time they are either accepted and placed into the queue, or they are rejected. Not all suggestions are purged at once - only those that are both older than the rest and have higher vote counts. Usually suggestions need at least 5 votes to be decided upon, unless they are very old.
- In the vein of the above, do not repost a suggestion of yours that has been removed recently, since it's either already lined up or been rejected. See the Queue section for an idea of how long it may take for your suggestion to show up.
If a suggestion of yours has been rejected in the past, you may repost it three months (90 days) after its rejection. However, it is unlikely for a rejected suggestion to be accepted in the future, so it is likely more productive to suggest something else.
Descriptions are not guaranteed to be included as-is should a suggestion pass.

Tips

In most cases, the combatants of a match should share similarities but have key differences. However, matchups between total opposites are also interesting. Avoid the middle ground where combatants have little in common but are also not polar opposites.
Protagonist vs. antagonist matches (e.g. Mario vs. Bowser) are valid, and many of them succeed in the arena, but are usually pushed aside by the community in favour of matchups that are less "obvious". Matchups born from in-game events (e.g. Subspace Emissary groupings) or matchups that are big in their home universes but not necessarily in Smash Bros. (e.g. legendary Pokémon fights) tend to fall into this as well.
Regular matches (one-on-one) are favoured more than three-way fights. If you have an idea for a three-way fight, see if one of the three combatants is really necessary. Fights of more than three participants have to be exceptional in order to be selected, and will likely be reserved for special rounds, so don't try too hard to make one work.
The description can sway peoples' opinions of a matchup. While the most interesting suggestions can be accepted on their own merits, those in the middle can be made or broken by how you present them.

Queue

The current queue is as such:

257	258	259	260	261	262	263	264	265

Hover the cursor over a round number to see its predicted start date. Empty spots are shown in grey.

When the queue becomes full (all the grey spots are filled up), suggestions will be suspended. You may continue to vote on current suggestions, but no more may be proposed. Once the queue drains out to a size of one, suggestions will be re-opened.

The queue is not set in stone; new suggestions may appear before older ones and it may change at any time. The queue is designed to attempt to balance out fights so that participants or universes aren't used too much in a short time.

The contents of the queue are a secret to maintain mystery and intrigue.

Show Your Support


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Template

To make a suggestion the easy way, copy the following code, paste it into the bottom of the editing window, and fill out the relevant parts:

==<participant 1> vs. <participant 2>==

<description of fight, maybe a few reasons you think it would be a good matchup> ~~~~

===Support===

===Oppose===

===Comments===

Suggestions

Landmaster (Fox) vs. Landmaster (Falco) vs. Landmaster (Wolf)

Three Landmasters from different character of star fox fight together to find which final smash is the best. Stranger 1260 06:03, 27 May 2012 (EDT)

Support

I support this. They all are similar with differences. ShupaRoeh 13:05, 27 May 2012 (EDT)
Toast is wrong, I definitely prefer Falco's over the others, and Fox's is easily the worst. If they were "too similar to write a vote in favor for", how can this be? Omega Tyrant 13:49, 27 May 2012 (EDT)
This would be a very good match. Blue Ninjakoopa^(Talk) 14:28, 28 May 2012 (EDT)
I would like to see how this does. LightningBlue: Cinco de Smash 21:38, 30 May 2012 (EDT)
Since I previously suggested this one before and failed. I would like to have this match make a comeback. Don't say that the stuff I say are completely invalid, as I might actually be creative despite being autistic. ..... The Scientist 23:01, 30 May 2012 (EDT)
Could work, I suppose. --- Rei Demon, Author Extraordinaire, 18:27, 1 June 2012 (EDT)

Oppose

This was suggested before, and it was unanimously opposed. This is because these moves are simply too similar to write a vote in the favour of one Landmaster over another. Toast ltimatum 13:46, 27 May 2012 (EDT)
Per Toast. Dark Fox 01 16:00, 27 May 2012 (EDT)
The Cheese says I agree with Toast. 75.31.4.16 12:38, 31 May 2012 (EDT) The Cheese
It sucks--Shaun's Wiji Dodo talk 09:44, 2 June 2012 (EDT)
What that IP said agreeing with DarkFox, which in turn was a concurrence with Toast. Air Conditioner File:Accoolx.png 16:33, 2 June 2012 (EDT)

Comments

You try to do my failed suggestion again. I question why it is getting slightly more support this time. :P ..... The Scientist 16:31, 27 May 2012 (EDT)

How about adding a archive about suggestions so that we look at failed suggestions so that we don't suggest it one more time?Stranger 1260 05:49, 29 May 2012 (EDT)

Failed suggestions should have second chances, as long as they're relatively far apart. Toomai Glittershine

The Superlative 23:23, 30 May 2012 (EDT)

I just want to know what has been suggested before, not that we will not suggest it anymore. I also want to know why they failed so we can improve. Stranger 1260

06:03, 31 May 2012 (EDT)

My suggestion is doing a lot more better than last time. I still question why though. Maybe I didn't explain it too well the last time but this resurggestion seems like its the same description and its now not immensely opposed unlike last time. Maybe I don't explain things too well and this one did explain well. ..... The Scientist 15:28, 2 June 2012 (EDT)

I think the issue with the first time that this fight was proposed was that you personally mentioned that it was a bad idea in the suggestion and opposed it yourself, as seen here. I would recommend that you have more faith in yourself when you suggest a fight. Mousehunter321 (talk · contributions) 15:45, 2 June 2012 (EDT)

Meta Knight vs. Shadow the Hedgehog

I can see this happening. While I guess Kirby and Sonic are a little different, Meta Knight and Shadow are very similar. They're on the edgier side, they don't express their emotions much, and are also huge rivals to the heroes (Kirby and Meta Knight are TOO rivals, deal with it!). Please do this! 98.247.37.38 13:42, 27 May 2012 (EDT)