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Should this become an actual policy, it would definitely cut down on the number of people who simply come here, make a smasher/crew article about themselves, then do nothing but talk the rest of the time on SW...such as [[User:The blue blur|this guy]]. These people generally don't even compete at all, making the articles really not worth more than joke pages. However, the one thing that does slightly bother me is the "regional tournament" thing. I understand that if someone competes in NO tournaments (maybe just 1 or 2), then they shouldn't have an article. But really, must the tournament be on such a large scale? I've been in about 5 tournaments so far and I'm probably gonna enter one this week, but since I can't travel and these tournaments are online, does that make [[Smasher:Shade|my smasher article]] invalid? What about [[Papercut|my crew article]]? We are competitive, and while it's on a smaller scale then, say, [[Combo Status]], we are competitive nonetheless. I just wanna know where the "in-between" Smashers like myself would stand in this scenario. [[User:Shade487z|<font color="red">Shade</font>]][[User talk:Shade487z|<font color="black">487</font>]][[Special:Contributions/Shade487z|<font color="yellow">z</font>]] 08:45, 19 January 2009 (UTC)
Should this become an actual policy, it would definitely cut down on the number of people who simply come here, make a smasher/crew article about themselves, then do nothing but talk the rest of the time on SW...such as [[User:The blue blur|this guy]]. These people generally don't even compete at all, making the articles really not worth more than joke pages. However, the one thing that does slightly bother me is the "regional tournament" thing. I understand that if someone competes in NO tournaments (maybe just 1 or 2), then they shouldn't have an article. But really, must the tournament be on such a large scale? I've been in about 5 tournaments so far and I'm probably gonna enter one this week, but since I can't travel and these tournaments are online, does that make my smasher article invalid? What about my crew article? We are competitive, and while it's on a smaller scale then, say, [[Combo Status]], we are competitive nonetheless. I just wanna know where the "in-between" Smashers like myself would stand in this scenario. [[User:Shade487z|<font color="red">Shade</font>]][[User talk:Shade487z|<font color="black">487</font>]][[Special:Contributions/Shade487z|<font color="yellow">z</font>]] 08:45, 19 January 2009 (UTC)
:If your crew's article does end up deleted (which I highly doubt), you could put the information on your own smasher page. Much like Rollback, people seem to think that they can do this without being familiar with what is really required. '''[[User:Blue Ninjakoopa|<span style="background:#000000;color:#99ffff">Blue Ninjakoopa</span>]]'''<sup>[[User talk:Blue Ninjakoopa|<span style="vertical-align:baseline;position:relative;bottom:0.36em;color:#0099ff">Talk</span>]]</sup> 10:13, 19 January 2009 (UTC)
:If your crew's article does end up deleted (which I highly doubt), you could put the information on your own smasher page. Much like Rollback, people seem to think that they can do this without being familiar with what is really required. '''[[User:Blue Ninjakoopa|<span style="background:#000000;color:#99ffff">Blue Ninjakoopa</span>]]'''<sup>[[User talk:Blue Ninjakoopa|<span style="vertical-align:baseline;position:relative;bottom:0.36em;color:#0099ff">Talk</span>]]</sup> 10:13, 19 January 2009 (UTC)
:: Certain crews might be a bit more troubled should this become a policy though...[[Code Blue|them too]]. [[User:Shade487z|<font color="red">Shade</font>]][[User talk:Shade487z|<font color="black">487</font>]][[Special:Contributions/Shade487z|<font color="yellow">z</font>]] 10:27, 19 January 2009 (UTC)
:: Certain crews might be a bit more troubled should this become a policy though... Code Blue too. [[User:Shade487z|<font color="red">Shade</font>]][[User talk:Shade487z|<font color="black">487</font>]][[Special:Contributions/Shade487z|<font color="yellow">z</font>]] 10:27, 19 January 2009 (UTC)
:::I'm surprised those articles haven't been deleted already, tbh. :| '''[[User:Blue Ninjakoopa|<span style="background:#000000;color:#99ffff">Blue Ninjakoopa</span>]]'''<sup>[[User talk:Blue Ninjakoopa|<span style="vertical-align:baseline;position:relative;bottom:0.36em;color:#0099ff">Talk</span>]]</sup> 10:30, 19 January 2009 (UTC)
:::I'm surprised those articles haven't been deleted already, tbh. :| '''[[User:Blue Ninjakoopa|<span style="background:#000000;color:#99ffff">Blue Ninjakoopa</span>]]'''<sup>[[User talk:Blue Ninjakoopa|<span style="vertical-align:baseline;position:relative;bottom:0.36em;color:#0099ff">Talk</span>]]</sup> 10:30, 19 January 2009 (UTC)


Over at FFXIclopedia, where I'm a Jr. Admin, we have a policy of no pages based on players aside from their own user pages. Letting people make their own pages about themselves, even people of significant note leads to insufferable epeen contests that detract from the professionalism a wikia wiki should have. So, I guess I support and don't support this idea. I support the part about not letting smashers and crews of no note have a page, but, I don't support the part where players of the game get a page. [[User:Lordshadow|Lordshadow]] ([[User talk:Lordshadow|talk]]) 06:05, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
Over at FFXIclopedia, where I'm a Jr. Admin, we have a policy of no pages based on players aside from their own user pages. Letting people make their own pages about themselves, even people of significant note leads to insufferable epeen contests that detract from the professionalism a wikia wiki should have. So, I guess I support and don't support this idea. I support the part about not letting smashers and crews of no note have a page, but, I don't support the part where players of the game get a page. [[User:Lordshadow|Lordshadow]] ([[User talk:Lordshadow|talk]]) 06:05, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
:Well, guess what.  I'm the equivalent of a senior admin on ''this'' wiki, where we have always allowed smasher and crew pages about important players.  You see, unlike in an MMORPG, there is an actual competitive scene outside of the regular "game world" if you will.  People that are professionals ''should'' get pages as they are absolutely instrumental in the creation of many of the techniques and strategies that are used by all players.  We are not going to get rid of the smasher pages for the [[Ken Hoang|legit]] [[Smasher:Azen|smashers]]; the discussion is what to do about the [[Smasher:Carbon|obscure]] [[Smasher:Liberator Of Animals From Suffering Or Potential Suffering|and/or]] [[Smasher:Cybr|irrelevant]] ones.  I thank you for trying to contribute, but please understand that your situation on FFXIwhatever is not the same as it is here where we have different standards.  [[User:Clarinet Hawk|Clarinet Hawk]] <small>([[User talk:Clarinet Hawk|talk]] · [[Special:Contributions/Clarinet Hawk|contributions]])</small> 06:26, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
:Well, guess what.  I'm the equivalent of a senior admin on ''this'' wiki, where we have always allowed smasher and crew pages about important players.  You see, unlike in an MMORPG, there is an actual competitive scene outside of the regular "game world" if you will.  People that are professionals ''should'' get pages as they are absolutely instrumental in the creation of many of the techniques and strategies that are used by all players.  We are not going to get rid of the smasher pages for the [[Ken Hoang|legit]] [[Smasher:Azen|smashers]]; the discussion is what to do about the obscure and/or irrelevant ones.  I thank you for trying to contribute, but please understand that your situation on FFXIwhatever is not the same as it is here where we have different standards.  [[User:Clarinet Hawk|Clarinet Hawk]] <small>([[User talk:Clarinet Hawk|talk]] · [[Special:Contributions/Clarinet Hawk|contributions]])</small> 06:26, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
::Hey, I resent that. :( There are competitive scenes in MMORPGs, and specifically in WoW. --[[User:Sky2042|Sky]] ([[User talk:Sky2042|t]] · [[Special:Contributions/Sky2042|c]] · [[w:c:wow:User:Sky2042|w]]) 02:41, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
::Hey, I resent that. :( There are competitive scenes in MMORPGs, and specifically in WoW. --[[User:Sky2042|Sky]] ([[User talk:Sky2042|t]] · [[Special:Contributions/Sky2042|c]] · [[w:c:wow:User:Sky2042|w]]) 02:41, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
:::Fair enough.  I'll admit that I'm biased against MMOs.  [[User:Clarinet Hawk|Clarinet Hawk]] <small>([[User talk:Clarinet Hawk|talk]] · [[Special:Contributions/Clarinet Hawk|contributions]])</small> 22:34, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
:::Fair enough.  I'll admit that I'm biased against MMOs.  [[User:Clarinet Hawk|Clarinet Hawk]] <small>([[User talk:Clarinet Hawk|talk]] · [[Special:Contributions/Clarinet Hawk|contributions]])</small> 22:34, 28 January 2009 (UTC)