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::::::"Bickering" is not unique to sysops and has nothing to do with sysop powers. Being a wiki, there are going to be disagreements between contributors and the community will have to deal with them properly. Wheel wars on the other hand are related to adminship, but they can be prevented if we choose the right people as administrators. Staff can also desysop abusive sysops. The worst thing that could happen with too many ''good'' sysops is that not all of them can use their powers, which isn't a reason not to sysop them. I think that the community should look to analyze each individual RFA candidate separately to see if they deserve it instead of deciding whether we need new sysops. [[User:Dtm142|Dtm142]] ([[User talk:Dtm142|talk]]) 05:09, 19 August 2008 (UTC) | ::::::"Bickering" is not unique to sysops and has nothing to do with sysop powers. Being a wiki, there are going to be disagreements between contributors and the community will have to deal with them properly. Wheel wars on the other hand are related to adminship, but they can be prevented if we choose the right people as administrators. Staff can also desysop abusive sysops. The worst thing that could happen with too many ''good'' sysops is that not all of them can use their powers, which isn't a reason not to sysop them. I think that the community should look to analyze each individual RFA candidate separately to see if they deserve it instead of deciding whether we need new sysops. [[User:Dtm142|Dtm142]] ([[User talk:Dtm142|talk]]) 05:09, 19 August 2008 (UTC) | ||
:::::::Honestly, I think you (Dtm) should have a look at the number of RfAs that are sitting there. The majority of them popped up at the same time — 6 or 7 of them (at least). And a majority of what was happening was vote stacking based on who liked the other person. In other words, the candidates were ''not'' being assessed for their ability to sysop, but rather how many friends they had. At the time of the closing, we felt it was necessary to prevent that from happening in the future for one (we really didn't want people opening 2nd and 3rd RfAs) and for two, there is/are enough sysops currently. WoWWiki has 23 some odd (22?), only 10-15 of which are active contributors. But look at the activity it gets! They don't need more!<br />Your argument in particular seems to emphasise that the right people need to be picked as administrators. But the ones that were here and applied at the time obviously weren't — one or two are blocked currently in fact (I won't go into how or why, but only that I thought that they were blocked appropriately).<br />And then you come in and arbitrarily reopen RfA, because you think it's right. After disappearing for a month or more. While I don't contribute (as much as I should be), I do keep tabs on the wiki — that means watching talk pages and giving my opinion on community matters. It doesn't look like you do that much... :/ You really should have thought further on your choices here. I would honestly throw out your opinion because of arbitrarily using your sysop powers to unlock the page to editing while there was a standing "consensus". The absolute first thing you should have done was to comment on the talk page, rather than insist that that be what ''we'' do to respond to your actions... Anyway, I'll keep watch. I need to go to breakfast. --[[User:Sky2042|Sky]] ([[User talk:Sky2042|t]] · [[Special:Contributions/Sky2042|c]] · [[w:c:wow:User:Sky2042|w]]) 11:59, 19 August 2008 (UTC) | :::::::Honestly, I think you (Dtm) should have a look at the number of RfAs that are sitting there. The majority of them popped up at the same time — 6 or 7 of them (at least). And a majority of what was happening was vote stacking based on who liked the other person. In other words, the candidates were ''not'' being assessed for their ability to sysop, but rather how many friends they had. At the time of the closing, we felt it was necessary to prevent that from happening in the future for one (we really didn't want people opening 2nd and 3rd RfAs) and for two, there is/are enough sysops currently. WoWWiki has 23 some odd (22?), only 10-15 of which are active contributors. But look at the activity it gets! They don't need more!<br />Your argument in particular seems to emphasise that the right people need to be picked as administrators. But the ones that were here and applied at the time obviously weren't — one or two are blocked currently in fact (I won't go into how or why, but only that I thought that they were blocked appropriately).<br />And then you come in and arbitrarily reopen RfA, because you think it's right. After disappearing for a month or more. While I don't contribute (as much as I should be), I do keep tabs on the wiki — that means watching talk pages and giving my opinion on community matters. It doesn't look like you do that much... :/ You really should have thought further on your choices here. I would honestly throw out your opinion because of arbitrarily using your sysop powers to unlock the page to editing while there was a standing "consensus". The absolute first thing you should have done was to comment on the talk page, rather than insist that that be what ''we'' do to respond to your actions... Anyway, I'll keep watch. I need to go to breakfast. --[[User:Sky2042|Sky]] ([[User talk:Sky2042|t]] · [[Special:Contributions/Sky2042|c]] · [[w:c:wow:User:Sky2042|w]]) 11:59, 19 August 2008 (UTC) | ||
:::::::::My attempt to resolve this -- [[User:Semicolon/Requests for Adminship Proposal]] [[User:Semicolon|Semicolon]] ([[User talk:Semicolon|talk]]) 20:11, 20 August 2008 (UTC) |
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