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Bayonetta was unanimously considered to be the best character in ''SSB4'' due to her many extreme advantages, including her ability to KO opponents at virtually any percentage with successful [[ladder combo]]s, the best disadvantage-breaking move in the game with [[Witch Time]], great KO potential outside of her ladder combos thanks to Witch Time and her smash attacks, and an excellent recovery. Even after having received significant [[nerf]]s in game updates, her advantages remained intact, causing players to label her as "[[broken]]", and many matches involving her became controversial. This included the ''Ultimate'' tournament [[Super Smash Bros. Invitational 2018]], where top professional player {{Sm|MkLeo}} pulled off 2 ladder KOs in front of [[Masahiro Sakurai]] using Bayonetta. Due to these factors, Bayonetta was initially nerfed drastically in her transition to ''Ultimate'', though game updates have provided her with substantial buffs to compensate, and the shifts to the metagame have proven benefitial for her to some degree. Despite this, Bayonetta has still been noticeably nerfed overall from ''SSB4''. | Bayonetta was unanimously considered to be the best character in ''SSB4'' due to her many extreme advantages, including her ability to KO opponents at virtually any percentage with successful [[ladder combo]]s, the best disadvantage-breaking move in the game with [[Witch Time]], great KO potential outside of her ladder combos thanks to Witch Time and her smash attacks, and an excellent recovery. Even after having received significant [[nerf]]s in game updates, her advantages remained intact, causing players to label her as "[[broken]]", and many matches involving her became controversial. This included the ''Ultimate'' tournament [[Super Smash Bros. Invitational 2018]], where top professional player {{Sm|MkLeo}} pulled off 2 ladder KOs in front of [[Masahiro Sakurai]] using Bayonetta. Due to these factors, Bayonetta was initially nerfed drastically in her transition to ''Ultimate'', though game updates have provided her with substantial buffs to compensate, and the shifts to the metagame have proven benefitial for her to some degree. Despite this, Bayonetta has still been noticeably nerfed overall from her ''SSB4'' iteration. | ||
Bayonetta's already poor frame data, her major weakness in ''SSB4'', has been worsened further from the previous game. Her most reliable combo starters have been weakened, with her up tilt, down tilt, and forward aerial all having more ending lag; the latter was affected the most significantly, with the first hit no longer allowing for any follow-ups other than the second and third hits of the move. [[Witch Twist]] has more startup and grants less distance, reducing its effectiveness as a combo starter, [[out of shield]] option, follow-up from other moves, and recovery option. Adding to this, all of Bayonetta's special moves have received nerfs that make them more risky and punishable: [[Bullet Climax]]'s charge takes longer to cancel and can no longer be held indefinitely, [[Heel Slide]] and [[After Burner Kick]]'s followup hits can no longer be used if they hit a shield, Witch Twist is slower and can no longer grab ledges, and Witch Time slows down opponents for much shorter amounts of time except at very high percentages, alongside having noticeably more startup and ending lag; the lattermost move's changes, in particular, have made Witch Time go from the uncontested best counter in ''SSB4'' to being much more in-line with the rest of the cast in ''Ultimate''. | Bayonetta's already poor frame data, her major weakness in ''SSB4'', has been worsened further from the previous game. Her most reliable combo starters have been weakened, with her up tilt, down tilt, and forward aerial all having more ending lag; the latter was affected the most significantly, with the first hit no longer allowing for any follow-ups other than the second and third hits of the move. [[Witch Twist]] has more startup and grants less distance, reducing its effectiveness as a combo starter, [[out of shield]] option, follow-up from other moves, and recovery option. Adding to this, all of Bayonetta's special moves have received nerfs that make them more risky and punishable: [[Bullet Climax]]'s charge takes longer to cancel and can no longer be held indefinitely, [[Heel Slide]] and [[After Burner Kick]]'s followup hits can no longer be used if they hit a shield, Witch Twist is slower and can no longer grab ledges, and Witch Time slows down opponents for much shorter amounts of time except at very high percentages, alongside having noticeably more startup and ending lag; the lattermost move's changes, in particular, have made Witch Time go from the uncontested best counter in ''SSB4'' to being much more in-line with the rest of the cast in ''Ultimate''. | ||
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The universal changes to gameplay mechanics are a mixed bag for Bayonetta overall. The ability to [[dash cancel]] into any move improves her grounded game, though this is somewhat counterbalanced by their rather slow startup and her notable grounded moves losing some of their combo utility. The streamlined [[jump#jump timing|jumpsquats]] and reductions to landing lag are mostly detrimental to her; they slightly benefit Bayonetta's combo game as long as her aerials are not extended with Bullet Arts, but unlike most other characters, Bayonetta suffers higher landing lag when she lands with aerials that are extended with Bullet Arts. This, combined with other characters gaining either safer aerials, improved combo routes from them, or lower landing lag, has allowed them to more easily keep up with Bayonetta. On the other hand, the changes to [[air dodge]] mechanics have benefitted her overall; although Bayonetta has the third shortest distance of any directional air dodge (tied with {{SSBU|Steve}}) she still benefits from their reintroduction since her special moves don't cause helplessness when used in the air, and it allows her to slightly extend her recovery provided she is not able to reach the edge on time, plus the increased lag on all kinds of air dodges and their limit to once per airtime (unless hitstun is sustained) has further improved her edgeguarding ability, despite her worse aerial game. | The universal changes to gameplay mechanics are a mixed bag for Bayonetta overall. The ability to [[dash cancel]] into any move improves her grounded game, though this is somewhat counterbalanced by their rather slow startup and her notable grounded moves losing some of their combo utility. The streamlined [[jump#jump timing|jumpsquats]] and reductions to landing lag are mostly detrimental to her; they slightly benefit Bayonetta's combo game as long as her aerials are not extended with Bullet Arts, but unlike most other characters, Bayonetta suffers higher landing lag when she lands with aerials that are extended with Bullet Arts. This, combined with other characters gaining either safer aerials, improved combo routes from them, or lower landing lag, has allowed them to more easily keep up with Bayonetta. On the other hand, the changes to [[air dodge]] mechanics have benefitted her overall; although Bayonetta has the third shortest distance of any directional air dodge (tied with {{SSBU|Steve}}) she still benefits from their reintroduction since her special moves don't cause helplessness when used in the air, and it allows her to slightly extend her recovery provided she is not able to reach the edge on time, plus the increased lag on all kinds of air dodges and their limit to once per airtime (unless hitstun is sustained) has further improved her edgeguarding ability, despite her worse aerial game. | ||
Overall, Bayonetta's biggest strengths from ''SSB4'' that were deemed "overpowered" have all been severely toned down or even removed altogether, as her combos require slightly more precision to pull off, have less KO potential and leave her more vulnerable, and Witch Time is a less powerful option to place the opponent at a disadvantage. She is also plagued with further defined weaknesses, possessing much more significant KOing issues, a worse disadvantage state and overall survivability (both from her weaker recovery and endurance) and a slightly slower moveset. Although some of her moves have received various improvements and/or quality of life changes, none of her buffs are able to properly compensate for the comparatively much larger impact her abundance of nerfs have brought up. The universal changes pronounce both the good and bad aspects of her attributes, but much like her direct buffs, they fail to address her severe direct nerfs. However, she still retains several of her main strengths from the previous game, most notably her strong combo game and edgeguarding ability. Many of Bayonetta's improvements | Overall, Bayonetta's biggest strengths from ''SSB4'' that were deemed "overpowered" have all been severely toned down or even removed altogether, as her combos require slightly more precision to pull off, have less KO potential and leave her more vulnerable, and Witch Time is a less powerful option to place the opponent at a disadvantage. She is also plagued with further defined weaknesses, possessing much more significant KOing issues, a worse disadvantage state and overall survivability (both from her weaker recovery and endurance) and a slightly slower moveset. Although some of her moves have received various improvements and/or quality of life changes, none of her buffs are able to properly compensate for the comparatively much larger impact her abundance of nerfs have brought up. The universal changes pronounce both the good and bad aspects of her attributes, but much like her direct buffs, they fail to address her severe direct nerfs. However, she still retains several of her main strengths from the previous game, most notably her strong combo game and edgeguarding ability. Many of Bayonetta's improvements were given to her through game updates, improving on her most underwhelming aspects or alleviating the severity of her nerfs. These changes now give Bayonetta a higher learning curve, and render her much less powerful than she was in ''SSB4''; however, optimizations to her metagame and the retention of her strengths have allowed Bayonetta to remain an effective character. | ||
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