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Rename

Hey could you rename me to SleepyPuff? Thanks. Melee Weegie (talk) 20:45, December 1, 2020 (EST)

As per SW:NAMECHANGE, please come back here in a few days to confirm your name change. Serpent  King 11:40, December 2, 2020 (EST)

Account recovery

Hey, I am Rdrfc, could you confirm that I am in the same IP range? --93.35.181.122 14:09, December 5, 2020 (EST)

Here I am. --Rdrfc2 (talk) 15:34, December 5, 2020 (EST)

Unnamed topic

You're updating a page with invalid infos, I request to talk to an admin. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.41.154.10 (talk • contribs) 12:28, January 16, 2021 (EST)

He's the admin. I've already made 2 comments on it; how about you take a look at it. CookiesCreme 12:28, January 16, 2021 (EST)

Outdated template

Hi Serpent King, I noticed that the smash arena Discord thingy (whatever you call it) is outdated (focusing on Round 32). Is that necessarily a problem? SonDaniel (talk page) 19:43, January 19, 2021 (EST)

It isn't necessarily a problem, but it's just that it's never been touched, so expect it to be outdated in the current round. If it's a problem for you, I have updated it already to the current round. Howplayz 12:54, January 20, 2021 (EST)

Would it be safe to unprotect the echo fighter pages?

From what I understand, the Ultimate pages for the echo fighters and Dr. Mario were indefinitely protected because a persistent guy named memoryman3 would constantly demoralize the echo fighters' differences and claim Dr. Mario wasn't more unique than he was, and would keep coming back despite having multiple accounts banned. he hasn't been active for a while, so since you were the one who protected those pages, would you say it is safe to unprotect Dr. Mario (SSBU), Lucina (SSBU), Dark Pit (SSBU), Chrom (SSBU), Ken (SSBU), Dark Samus (SSBU), Daisy (SSBU), Richter (SSBU), Clone, Princess Daisy, and Galeem? 72.219.72.215 15:55, February 15, 2021 (EST)

His twitter is inactive too . Considering how this guy seemed to be the reason why the echo fighter pages were protected, I think it's safe to lift protection now. 72.219.72.215 14:19, February 17, 2021 (EST)

Like I said in the Discord, this IP has a good point here, and those pages have been protected for over two years now, I think it's time we relax the protections. Worst case scenario and this IP is Memoryman pulling the long con or Memoryman is just lurking in the shadows and waiting to strike, we can just revert the edits and re-implement the protections. Omega Tyrant 00:50, February 18, 2021 (EST)

You can actually confirm I'm not memoryman by checking my IP location to see I'm in the United States, while memoryman is british according to smashboards and gamefaqs. Also, I forgot to mention these, but would the same apply to the clone page Daisy's non-fighter page, and Galeem as well? I don't have any immediate plans to edit these pages (unless Pyra and Mythra turn out to be seniclones), but it just seems like the misconceptions that led to the protection of these pages were primarily from one troll who isn't active anymore, and those that were from other people were because of inconsistencies with the Echo Fighter label that are just kind of accepted now. 72.219.72.215 01:17, February 18, 2021 (EST)

MemoryMan3 has definitely been inactive, so I can justify removing protection. It should immediately go back up if something happens though. Aidan, the Lovely Rurouni 01:44, February 19, 2021 (EST)

Any reason why you or Omega can't do it? Black Vulpine of the 🦊Furry Nation🐺. Furries make the internets go! :3 03:13, February 19, 2021 (EST)

(edit conflict) My assumption is because Sook is the one who protected most of them (sans Dr Mario, Princess Daisy and Galeem). On that note I also support the protection removal, should Memoryman strike again the protection can be re-implemented. Omegα Toαd, the Toαd Wαrrior. (BUP) 03:48, February 19, 2021 (EST)

I'm just waiting to see if there's any serious objections, since these protections have been in place for so long and I wasn't around when the Memoryman shit happened. Omega Tyrant 03:46, February 19, 2021 (EST)

I do think relaxing the protection would be great, and we can always revert the protections if necessary. On the contrary though his GameFAQs account was active again just recently, so perhaps we wait a bit more before a decision is made to get rid of those protections. -- PanchamBro (talk • contributions) 06:52, February 19, 2021 (EST)

He hasn't been seen here, so I think we should be fine. Black Vulpine of the 🦊Furry Nation🐺. Furries make the internets go! :3 07:14, February 19, 2021 (EST)

I have no objections. Serpent  King 09:59, February 19, 2021 (EST)

Memoryman3 made a sockpuppet called MrMHM that edited as recently as October 2020. He could potentially return to ravage and ruin pages anytime soon, so I feel that the pages should stay protected. Zakawer2 (talk) 10:52, February 19, 2021 (EST)

We're talking about 1 guy here. We wouldn't lock any other page because 1 person keeps making bad edits to it, so I don't see why these pages should be any different. Multiple people have several of those articles on their watchlists, and undoing his edits is very easy. Alex the Weeb 10:55, February 19, 2021 (EST)

Name change

Hi Serpent King, I would like to change my username to Daniel1204. I will give you a confirmation by tomorrow. Thanks! SonDaniel (talk page) 15:37, February 17, 2021 (EST)

Hi Serpent King, I am here to confirm my request. I would like my username to be changed to Daniel1204. SonDaniel (talk page) 13:42, February 18, 2021 (EST)

Username change

Hello, I'd like to request a name change to 'Hewer', please. Bandana Hewer Dee (talk) 10:32, February 19, 2021 (EST)

Per SW:NAMECHANGE, please write back here in a few days to confirm. Serpent  King 08:45, February 20, 2021 (EST)

Confirming my request: I would like to have my username changed to Hewer. Bandana Hewer Dee (talk) 04:38, February 21, 2021 (EST)

"offensive and not commonly used"

Firstly, Rapetent is not an uncommonly used phrase. Search "rapetent smash bros" on Google and you will find tons of results all mentioning it on places like Smashboards and reddit. Secondly, I do not understand why you are choosing to blatantly ignore SW:DELETE and SmashWiki is not censored to misuse your admin powers to keep the page the way you want. If you have an issue with the word "Rapetent," go suggest an amendment to the censorship policy instead of ignoring all discussion on the subject altogether. Awesome Cardinal 2000 18:28, March 9, 2021 (EST)

Also, you protected the page to keep a revision that you like, while completely ignoring previously decided consensus? Do you not remember the Marth incident that you were a part of and directly complained about? Awesome Cardinal 2000 18:30, March 9, 2021 (EST)

I searched it like you said and found that the first page of results were: 1 in 2019, 1 in 2016, 2 in 2015, and 2 in 2013. From this we can conclude that the term hasn't been used often at all recently, and for good reason.

And despite what you claim, I do find your reversion to be in violation of 1rv. Serpent  King 18:34, March 9, 2021 (EST)

The top 9 results for "rapetent smash bros" on Google for me, disregarding Google Images and suggested questions, gives even more dated results (in order, 2010, 2015, 2013, 2015, 2010, 2013, 2009, 2012, and the most recent result of them, 2017), so I'm also not exactly sure how you think it's "not an uncommonly used phrase". Aidan, the Rurouni 18:36, March 9, 2021 (EST)

SmashWiki goes by a "once notable always notable" policy, just because a term is not used as frequently now doesn't mean it wasn't relevant in the past. And just because a term was used more frequently in the early 2000s and 2010s, when the Internet was significantly less developed now, does not mean that it isn't as encyclopedic as something that gets used today. Also, SW:1RV states that an exception to the rule is made "In the event of a user making an edit which goes against decisions arrived upon in previous discussions." The previous discussions made it clear that the word "Rapetent" would remain in the article, and even put in a notice saying to not remove it, and you went and deleted the page completely ignoring that consensus. Awesome Cardinal 2000 18:54, March 9, 2021 (EST)

Have you maybe considered that the wiki isn't...static? That policies and mentalities change over time? That something that was once acceptable can suddenly become not acceptable? Get off your god damn high horse already, Cardinal. Aidan, the Rurouni 19:03, March 9, 2021 (EST)

Is SmashWiki supposed to be encyclopedic or not? Do encyclopedias stop covering things that happened ten years ago? Awesome Cardinal 2000 19:06, March 9, 2021 (EST)

If the thing was still happening over ten years later, then no. If it's effectively been dropped from the community, then yes. While not to the same extent, note how we quickly flipped from "RockCrocking" to "Tech Checking". Aidan, the Rurouni 19:09, March 9, 2021 (EST)

I don't see how removing an offensive term which is hardly even used anymore would make the wiki stop being "encyclopedic". What policy even states "Once notable, always notable"? As far as I know, none of them. If it were an actual written rule however, it would be intended for Smasher articles, not mainspace text. Señor Mexicano (talk) 19:13, March 9, 2021 (EST)

You clearly have no idea what you're talking about. If you take a moment to look at the two most popular sources of competitive Smash 64 discussions, the Discord and the Facebook group, you will notice that the term "rape tent" or "rapetent" are hardly used. In particular the Discord server only has about 14 mentions of the term, most of which have been by one user who has seemingly been banned. The Facebook group on the other hand has a bit more usage, but as of 2017 the group administrators started working against this toxic type of behavior. The term is dead and any mention of it will certainly raise some eyebrows towards you. Señor Mexicano (talk) 19:13, March 9, 2021 (EST)

Disregarding the offensive part for a moment here, would you agree in principle that an encyclopedia should do its best to cover in detail about things that were notable in the past but not as notable now, and that it's unencyclopedic to remove information on things just because no one uses them anymore? Awesome Cardinal 2000 19:43, March 9, 2021 (EST)

The concept of "Once notable, always notable" is directly referenced in SW:SMASHER, and indeed the wiki enforces it in regards to covering historical competitive content, such as the aforementioned smasher articles and tournament articles. What it is not supposed to be for is a reason for the wiki to keep covering outdated terms the community has made an active effort to move away from using. Language evolves and all that.

That said, keeping the redirect should be fine, the average reader doesn't even know what a redirect is, and the people searching by that term aren't going to be the ones that will get offended by it. Omega Tyrant 20:36, March 9, 2021 (EST)

It does seem to me that the most encyclopedic solution would be to acknowledge the name's existence and state that the community has intentionally moved away from using it because it is offensive. It clearly demonstrates the wiki's stance on the title while not attempting to "erase history" or whatever exaggerative term you want to use. TheNuttyOne 20:42, March 9, 2021 (EST)

On the other hand, I really don't think this name was used commonly enough to warrant a mention at all, just judging by the search results. There honestly isn't sufficient notability to begin with, regardless of whether it's offensive (which it absolutely is, don't get me wrong). ~ StrawberryChan (talk) 21:08, March 9, 2021 (EST)

I frankly would prefer the wiki be rid of any and all mention of it, but OT does have a point: keeping it as a redirect will only realistically serve a purpose to those who know/knew it by that name, and should it stir up confusion later on down the line, then its existence as a redirect can be brought into question. Aidan, the Rurouni 22:58, March 9, 2021 (EST)

Bring back the clone protection!

This is an anonymous IP address whose edits on clone pages have been suspiciously very similar to Memoryman3's past edits. After the protection on clone pages was lifted, this IP address changed several clone pages to fit an agenda suspiciously similar to Memoryman3's. I have undone all edits. Since Memoryman3 may be back, it is imperative that you bring back the protection; he could always secretly return when we don't expect it. --Zakawer2 (talk) 11:28, March 24, 2021 (EDT)

April Fool's

For my first-ever AFD submission, I'd like to remove any and all references to Banjo on Banjo & Kazooie and the Super Smash Bros. Ultimate page (which also entails editing the SSBU character table), replacing their fighter render with one I made of Kazooie by herself (I'll upload it if I'm approved). Y'know, to poke fun at people who refer to the duo as just "Banjo." If this gets approved, could you move the Banjo & Kazooie page to Kazooie (SSBU) as well? I reckon this won't take too much work to clean up. Thanks! Sincerely, Samuel the Banjo-Kazooie Boss. 18:17, March 30, 2021 (EDT)

Show me proof of effort (link to pastebin or a user subpage will do) and I'll approve. Serpent  King 07:11, March 31, 2021 (EDT)

Kazooie (SSBU) ForgetBanjo.png I put wayyy too much effort into this. If you take issue with any of it, let me know! Sincerely, Samuel the NEW AMIIBO TRAINER!!! 10:01, March 31, 2021 (EDT)

You are good to go. Serpent  King 11:57, March 31, 2021 (EDT)

Would you mind moving Banjo & Kazooie (SSBU) to Kazooie (SSBU) to help with the joke? I understand you're very busy right now, doesn't need to be top priority or anything. I bid you Dededespeed! Sincerely, Samuel the NEW AMIIBO TRAINER!!! 20:33, March 31, 2021 (EDT)

About new AFD

I understand that you must now have permission to prank mainspace articles, but can you still prank your own userpage without approval? ZeldaStarfoxfan2164 (talk) is bad for me 17:48, March 31, 2021 (EDT)

Yep that should be fine. Serpent  King 18:04, March 31, 2021 (EDT)

Another AFD Idea

Removing the parts of Marth's page in reference to him speaking English, since the localization of his original game is being removed from the eShop after March 31. DekZek 20:23, March 31, 2021 (EDT)

Sure. Serpent  King 20:24, March 31, 2021 (EDT)

AFD idea

I'd like to add Mario's "death" to his page and make it past tense (maybe just the intro) in reference to some games going away after today. Awesomelink234, the Super Cool Gamer (talk) 20:25, March 31, 2021 (EDT)

Denied, someone already claimed that. Serpent  King 20:27, March 31, 2021 (EDT)

My prank IS approved.

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Aidanzapunk approved my prank days ago.

Could you please undo your revisions so I can continue with my prank?

TotallyNotAutomated (talk) 20:50, March 31, 2021 (EDT)

Yep done, sorry about that. Serpent  King 20:51, March 31, 2021 (EDT)

Ah, sorry, just saw your follow-up message. Also disregard. TotallyNotAutomated (talk) 20:51, March 31, 2021 (EDT)

AFD submission

Don't know if it's too late to take submissions, but I would like to rewrite King K. Rool's page to be all about King Koopa from the DiC Mario cartoons. Not only are they very similar in appearance, but King Koopa did the whole alter-ego gimmick before K. Rool did. SuperSmashTurtles of the Turtle Tribe 20:51, March 31, 2021 (EDT)

Sure, but show me before you are done, pastebin or similar Serpent  King 20:52, March 31, 2021 (EDT)

So, uh, there's a problem with Pastebin. Apparently, due to "potentially offensive or questionable content in your paste", it will not let me create a link to what I need to make this prank. I tried copy-pasting King K. Rool's SSBU page unchanged on there to see if I may added some weird stuff in my draft, and it still wouldn't allow me to create a link. I don't want to create an account on Pastebin or any site just to make this prank come to fruition, so any other free options? SuperSmashTurtles of the Turtle Tribe 22:11, March 31, 2021 (EDT)

could make a user subpage Serpent  King 11:22, April 1, 2021 (EDT)

That sounds like a nice compromise...except I already made a userpage before you even responded and I have already tagged it for deletion cuz I lost any hope for it. Oops. SuperSmashTurtles of the Turtle Tribe 19:55, April 1, 2021 (EDT)

Shared Banjo & Kazooie trivia

Hey, I noticed you deleted the template for shared trivia between Banjo & Kazooie as part of the AFD cleanup.

That page wasn't created for AFD, it was just changed to remove any mention of Banjo. SuperSmashTurtles of the Turtle Tribe 20:36, April 1, 2021 (EDT)

Should we change the smash ultimate dlc page to this?

Brought upon the talk page and I didn't notice until now but I thought this style would clean up lots of junk so I thought we could use this format

Pack No.	Fighter	Stage	Universe	Songs	Spirits	Mii Fighter costumes	Release date
1	Joker	Mementos	Persona	Last Surprise Beneath the Mask Wake Up, Get Up, Get Out There Rivers In The Desert Our Beginning Reach Out To The Truth I'll Face Myself Time To Make History Mass Destruction Battle Hymn of the Soul Aria of the Soul	Joker (Phantom Thief) Joker (Student) Phantom Thieves of Hearts Igor Caroline & Justine Morgana Ryuji Sakamoto Ann Takamaki Yusuke Kitagawa Makoto Niijima Futaba Sakura Haru Okumura Goro Akechi	Morgana (headgear) Persona 4 Protagonist (Swordfighter) Teddie (headgear) Persona 3 Protagonist (Swordfighter) Tails (Gunner) Knuckles (Brawler)	April 17, 2019
	Joker from Persona 5 was announced as the second DLC fighter during The Game Awards 2018 on December 6th, 2018. He is the first playable character included with the Fighters Pass Vol. 1. As part of Challenger Pack 1, his accompanying stage is Mementos, and features music from Persona 5 as well as Persona 4, Persona 3, and the original Revelations: Persona.	Mementos comes as a set with Joker as part of Challenger Pack 1. Mementos has one main platform with a slant in the middle similar to Meta Crystal, with one platform over the center and another over the left side. Trains periodically appear in the background, the set below the stage being able to damage fighters. Occasionally, a large triangle-shaped wall appears at the top or on the sides of the stage. The trains and the walls will never appear at the same time.If a song from Persona 3 or Persona 4 is playing during a match, the color scheme of Mementos will change from red to blue or yellow respectively, the respective primary colors for each game. The decoration in the background also changes to either a moon or the streaks found in Persona 4's UI. If Joker wins a match with the alternate music, the victory pose screen and subsequent music change accordingly to the ones found in the home series.

Gligar2007 (talk) 10:47, April 28, 2021 (EDT)

Rename

Hi Serpent King, could you please rename me to "NatetheMate14"? Nate0514 (talk) 17:08, May 19, 2021 (EDT)

As per SW:NAMECHANGE, please write back here in a few days to confirm. Serpent  King 20:51, May 19, 2021 (EDT)

Random Entry Names

Was a list of random entry names ever compiled? I saw that you were working on doing one on the Name Talk Page. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Karatekidaustin (talk • contribs) 14:59, June 11, 2021 (EDT)

Rename Request

Hi Serpent King, can you rename my user name to Sqldf03? Best wishes! Elefish92 (talk) 00:38, June 16, 2021 (EDT)

As per SW:NAMECHANGE, write back here in a few days to confirm. Serpent  King 18:33, June 17, 2021 (EDT)

Sorry for the delay, but I'd like to confirm that I would want the name change after a few days of thinking about it. Best regards! Elefish92 (talk) 19:42, July 4, 2021 (EDT)

Why did you have to ban MetaKnightX6?

Why'd you have to ban MetaKnightX6? I personally think you should've at least extended the ban to two years instead. Infinite ban is a little extreme for someone who's just a little immature and can be banned until he's a little less immature. I'm just saying, why do you have to ban him forever? —Preceding unsigned comment added by SmashBros.PikachuUltimate (talk • contribs) 12:34, September 15, 2021 (EDT)

Taking wiki drama off the site and using it to harass site members is definitely grounds for an indefinite ban. I do not want him back here causing more problems after a year or 2 is up. Serpent  King 18:27, September 15, 2021 (EDT)

Oh... Actually, I can kinda see that. Pika Pika 19:37, September 15, 2021 (EDT)

Name Change Request

I would like my name on the wiki to be changed from "Namejeff9+10" to "Joann". Joann, AKA Namejeff9+10 (talk) 15:57, November 27, 2021 (EST)

As per SW:NAMECHANGE, please write back here in a couple of days to confirm your name change. Thank you! Serpent  King 13:25, November 28, 2021 (EST)

Rename

Yo, can you change my username to Amber Blackstar? Disaster Flare (talk) 02:26, December 10, 2021 (EST)

As per SW:NAMECHANGE please write back here in a few days to confirm. Thanks! Serpent  King 12:38, December 10, 2021 (EST)

Confirming my name change. Disaster Flare (talk) 01:05, December 14, 2021 (EST)

Name Change

Hey man, could you change my name to "Flarco"? I actually have an old account under that name but can't remember my password or the email address it's under, so I've just been Flarco01 for the past year. Sorry if the old account is a problem and you can delete the old one if needed. Thanks, Flarco (talk) 10:15, January 17, 2022 (EST).

No problem. I've merged the 2 accounts. The password should be the Flarco01 one. Let me know if there are any issues logging into your account. Thanks and have a great day! Serpent  King 12:37, January 17, 2022 (EST)

April fools

Hi, is the approval for submissions for April Fools the same as last year? Thegameandwatch The Nerd 15:36, March 31, 2022 (EDT)

Fourth-Month Foolishness

Check this out.

This would go over R.O.B. (SSBU), and I would also alter some text and images on Super Smash Bros. Ultimate as well as on a few related templates. Are we cool? Sincerely, Samuel the Banjo-Kazooie Boss. 09:37, April 1, 2022 (EDT)

You've essentially just text replaced R.O.B. with Wall-E...And we don't do text replacements. Serpent  King 12:37, April 1, 2022 (EDT)

King questions

Hello… How do for change this username ? ZekingoX (talk) 06:07, May 15, 2022 (EDT)

Username change

Hi! I’d like to have my username changed to “Hello” since my past username had to be changed and I have no ideas. Pingas (talk) 13:07, June 12, 2022 (EDT)

Never mind they said it's fine Pingas (talk) 21:04, June 12, 2022 (EDT)

Citation Needed

Hey! I noticed on the https://www.ssbwiki.com/Smasher:Griseous#Racism_controversy page, a citation was needed. I'd be more than happy to provide one, though this was not posted publicly and occurred within a private message. Feel free to reach out to me at You!#2609.

Username Change

Hey! May my username be changed to "Kumatora"? I instinctively went for "KumatoraSSBM" when I created my account but I would much rather be named "Kumatora" instead. Thanks in advance! KumatoraSSBM (talk) 06:36, July 12, 2022 (EDT)

As per SW:NAMECHANGE write back here in a few days to confirm your name change. Thanks and have a great day! Serpent  King 18:00, July 12, 2022 (EDT)

Is two days enough? If so, I would like to confirm my name change now. Thank you! KumatoraSSBM (talk) 04:47, July 14, 2022 (EDT)

No can do, "Kumatora" already exists. Serpent  King 15:24, July 15, 2022 (EDT)

Oh shoot. Would "Princess Kumatora" work instead? KumatoraSSBM (talk) 18:14, July 15, 2022 (EDT)

Out of Curiosity...

I don't know why it is frowned upon to use one form of spelling over the other. I have a MarioWiki account and they generally use American English on their articles and policies. But I see lots of British English here-in fact, more here than on the MarioWiki. Would it be possible to clarify/explain? Thank you!

This question was because I saw a word on a policy page in British spelling. I wanted to change it to its American spelling, but to be safe, I'm asking if it's ok first. And I think as long as it does not degrade the quality of anything, it should be fine? Super Smash Mario (talk) 15:03, August 31, 2022 (EDT)

Sorry about my late response. The current policy says:

There is no preference whether to use American or non-American English; therefore, one should not make an edit to a page that consists of only changing such spelling/grammar. However, it is preferred to remain consistent within a section or article. Relatedly, articles on localized subjects, such as American tournaments or British players, should use the same regionalization as their subjects.

So making an edit that simply changes from British English to American English wouldn't be proper unless changing it for consistency. Serpent  King 17:31, September 7, 2022 (EDT)