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...Amaterasu would actually be the ''sixth'' canid fighter after Isabelle. [[File:JacketTerraSig1.png|20px]]'''The [[User:JacketedTerrapin|<span style="color: blue;">Jacketed</span>]] [[User talk:JacketedTerrapin|<span style="color: green;">Terrapin</span>]]'''[[File:JacketTerraSig2.png|20px]] 01:12, June 29, 2021 (EDT) | ...Amaterasu would actually be the ''sixth'' canid fighter after Isabelle. [[File:JacketTerraSig1.png|20px]]'''The [[User:JacketedTerrapin|<span style="color: blue;">Jacketed</span>]] [[User talk:JacketedTerrapin|<span style="color: green;">Terrapin</span>]]'''[[File:JacketTerraSig2.png|20px]] 01:12, June 29, 2021 (EDT) | ||
:Holy shit, you're right. [[User:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: black;">'''Aidan'''</span>]], [[User talk:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: grey;">'''the</span> <span style="color: white; text-shadow: 0 0 2px black;">Ace</span> <span style="color: purple;">Rurouni'''</span>]] 01:29, June 29, 2021 (EDT) | :Holy shit, you're right. [[User:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: black;">'''Aidan'''</span>]], [[User talk:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: grey;">'''the</span> <span style="color: white; text-shadow: 0 0 2px black;">Ace</span> <span style="color: purple;">Rurouni'''</span>]] 01:29, June 29, 2021 (EDT) | ||
== Sega == | |||
So on the "Reasons for inclusion/exclusion" section for AGES, you made a point about Sega having poor overall representation in ''Smash'', with the key point being "'''one of them is represented poorly, one of them is only Sega by IP ownership, one of them technically isn't even a Sega character at all, and the Assist Trophy doesn't exactly have much going for it otherwise.'''" | |||
While the last one is [[Virtua Fighter (universe)|very obvious]] and process of elimination makes the first one [[Sonic the Hedgehog (universe)|easy to guess]], I'm afraid the middle two are too vague and can easily be interchangeable (for reasons the bottom two paragraphs should hopefully explain well enough). | |||
I'm guessing "'''Sega by IP ownership'''" is ''Bayonetta'' due to Sega not having published any installments beyond the first (and even then, only the non-Nintendo releases), but Nintendo seems to have some ownership of the sequels (do note that the non-remixed ''Bayo 2'' tracks only have Nintendo mentioned in the copyright notices; Bayo's ''Smash 4'' eShop copyright notice also lists Ninty according to [[User:Miles_of_SmashWiki/sandbox#Character rights|this page]], likely referring to the sequel design), which may lead some people into thinking Sega doesn't fully own ''Bayonetta'' when it's simply just that they refuse to publish the sequels for some reason (and it's not like this isn't a recurring thing with Sega; ''{{s|wikipedia|Shenmue III}}'', ''{{s|wikipedia|Streets of Rage 4}}'', ''{{s|wikipedia|Alex Kidd in Miracle World DX}}'', ''{{s|wikipedia|Wonder Boy: The Dragon's Trap}}'', etc.). If "Sega doesn't publish it anymore" isn't the reason, my only other guess is that PlatinumGames develops the series and not Sega, in which case I feel the explanation should instead be "'''one of them is not developed by Sega'''". | |||
"'''Technically isn't even a Sega character at all'''" is probably referring to ''Persona'' since the series is always published by Atlus and not directly by Sega (in Japan, at least; Sega seems to have completely taken over North American publishing duties for Atlus's stuff in recent years). Problem with that wording is that it could mean anything, one of them being that Sega '''''doesn't actually own''''' ''Persona'', but simply just publishes the series (similar to how Square Enix makes and publishes ''Kingdom Hearts'' despite Disney owning the IP). Sega has owned Atlus since 2013, meaning Joker is as much of a Sega character as Sonic is, just not in-name only. I think a more accurate point would be "is only Sega via their acquisition of Atlus" (granted, Joker postdates the acquisition, but you said "it has three '''franchises''' in the game already", yet said "isn't even a Sega '''character''' at all", so I'm just gonna assume that was an inconsistency there). | |||
Hope I'm not coming off as super nitpicky here, but I feel your point on why Sega doesn't have great representation in ''Smash'' could've been stronger. Any objections are welcome. [[File:JacketTerraSig1.png|20px]]'''The [[User:The Jacketed Terrapin|<span style="color: blue;">Jacketed</span>]] [[User talk:The Jacketed Terrapin|<span style="color: green;">Terrapin</span>]]'''[[File:JacketTerraSig2.png|20px]] 21:40, July 12, 2022 (EDT) | |||