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Like most of his appearances, he is voiced by Kazumi Totaka, albeit via recycled voice clips from ''Yoshi's Story'' and ''Smash 64''.
Like most of his appearances, he is voiced by Kazumi Totaka, albeit via recycled voice clips from ''Yoshi's Story'' and ''Smash 64''.


He is currently ranked 12th out of 26 on the current tier list, placing him in the D tier. This is a slight drop from his previous placement in ''Smash 64'', where he was ranked 5th out of 12. Yoshi has outstanding combo ability with his double jump canceling (especially against fast-fallers like {{SSBM|Fox}}), a great aerial game (coupled with the third most powerful [[meteor smash]] in the game), and some decent approach options. He can also play mindgames and extend combos with his unpredictable [[Egg Throw]], and has a very reliable finisher in his down smash, which has almost no start-up lag, outstanding reach and knockback, and a very [[semi-spike|favorable launch angle]] that is hard to [[DI]] against or recover from. Yoshi also has very unique mechanics, such as a knockback reduction armor active during his double jump, which he can use to tank hits or create counter punch opportunities by double jump canceling out of it. However, his lack of a "true" third jump means he can be vulnerable when hit out of it, or after canceling it. His high falling speed also makes him a target for combos. Yoshi's shield is also very unique. He cannot jump out of it once in the egg, but cannot be shieldstabbed, and suffers no shieldstun, meaning situations involving his shield play out very differently than they do for the rest of the cast. On the other hand, his shield startup animation has invincibility frames and can be jumped out of -the mechanic known as parry- giving him unique punish opportunities when an opponent hits him during that startup animation.
He is currently ranked 10th out of 26 on the current tier list, placing him in the B+ tier. This is a slight rise from his previous placement in ''Smash 64'', where he was ranked 5th out of 12. Yoshi has outstanding combo ability with his double jump canceling (especially against fast-fallers like {{SSBM|Fox}}), a great aerial game (coupled with the third most powerful [[meteor smash]] in the game), and some decent approach options. He can also play mindgames and extend combos with his unpredictable [[Egg Throw]], and has a very reliable finisher in his down smash, which has almost no start-up lag, outstanding reach and knockback, and a very [[semi-spike|favorable launch angle]] that is hard to [[DI]] against or recover from. Yoshi also has very unique mechanics, such as a knockback reduction armor active during his double jump, which he can use to tank hits or create counter punch opportunities by double jump canceling out of it. However, his lack of a "true" third jump means he can be vulnerable when hit out of it, or after canceling it. His high falling speed also makes him a target for combos. Yoshi's shield is also very unique. He cannot jump out of it once in the egg, but cannot be shieldstabbed, and suffers no shieldstun, meaning situations involving his shield play out very differently than they do for the rest of the cast. On the other hand, his shield startup animation has invincibility frames and can be jumped out of -the mechanic known as parry- giving him unique punish opportunities when an opponent hits him during that startup animation.


Yoshi has long been considered to have some of the worst matchups all around, with five matchups considered nearly unwinnable, and only one being considered favorable against {{SSBM|Kirby}}; he also has the dubious distinction of being one of only two characters that have an even matchup against {{SSBM|Bowser}}. However, due to large innovations in Yoshi's metagame by {{Sm|aMSa}}, as well as strong tournament placements by him, Yoshi's matchups have been debated in the ''Melee'' community, and his placement has greatly improved in the most recent tier lists. Yoshi has also seen a significant increase in his playerbase in recent years, thanks to aMSa.
Yoshi has long been considered to have some of the worst matchups all around, with five matchups considered nearly unwinnable, and only one being considered favorable against {{SSBM|Kirby}}; he also has the dubious distinction of being one of only two characters that have an even matchup against {{SSBM|Bowser}}. However, due to large innovations in Yoshi's metagame by {{Sm|aMSa}}, as well as strong tournament placements by him, Yoshi's matchups have been debated in the ''Melee'' community, and his placement has greatly improved in the most recent tier lists. Yoshi has also seen a significant increase in his playerbase in recent years, thanks to aMSa.
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In late 2012 to early 2013, however, {{Sm|aMSa}} made his professional debut in Japan, taking top 8 in a Japanese tournament with only Yoshi. He later finished 25th place in [[EVO 2013]], sweeping his pools and taking a game off of {{Sm|Mew2King}}, a placement that convinced the Melee Back Room to move Yoshi up 3 places on the tier list following said tournament, making him a low-mid tier. aMSa later reappeared with Yoshi in several future tournaments, including [[Apex 2014]] and [[Republic of Fighters 3]], and, to the surprise of many, placed 5th at [[Apex 2015]], defeating several renowned players of top-tiered characters, namely {{Sm|Lucky}}, {{Sm|Silent Wolf}}, {{Sm|Fly Amanita}}, and {{Sm|SFAT}}. aMSa's use of Yoshi was considered completely unique from those of Fumi, Leffen, and other previous Yoshi mains; he showed the use of parrying and spacing that was previously never seen before and demonstrated that Yoshi's ability to punish errors made by opponents was far greater than expected. While the ''Melee'' community has not yet updated the matchup chart in response to these developments, Yoshi has risen 6 places in the twelfth American tier list and 8 places in the third [[PAL Tier List]], the best improvement on Melee's tier list, making him a solid mid-tier character.
In late 2012 to early 2013, however, {{Sm|aMSa}} made his professional debut in Japan, taking top 8 in a Japanese tournament with only Yoshi. He later finished 25th place in [[EVO 2013]], sweeping his pools and taking a game off of {{Sm|Mew2King}}, a placement that convinced the Melee Back Room to move Yoshi up 3 places on the tier list following said tournament, making him a low-mid tier. aMSa later reappeared with Yoshi in several future tournaments, including [[Apex 2014]] and [[Republic of Fighters 3]], and, to the surprise of many, placed 5th at [[Apex 2015]], defeating several renowned players of top-tiered characters, namely {{Sm|Lucky}}, {{Sm|Silent Wolf}}, {{Sm|Fly Amanita}}, and {{Sm|SFAT}}. aMSa's use of Yoshi was considered completely unique from those of Fumi, Leffen, and other previous Yoshi mains; he showed the use of parrying and spacing that was previously never seen before and demonstrated that Yoshi's ability to punish errors made by opponents was far greater than expected. While the ''Melee'' community has not yet updated the matchup chart in response to these developments, Yoshi has risen 6 places in the twelfth American tier list and 8 places in the third [[PAL Tier List]], the best improvement on Melee's tier list, making him a solid mid-tier character.


Yoshi's placement in the current tier list has been a topic of debate since then. Throughout aMSa's earlier years in the scene, many noted his tendency to perform better overseas than in Japan, suggesting that he won mainly through matchup inexperience. However, in recent times, {{Sm|aMSa}}'s performance has gradually gained momentum; not only has he begun to dominate his region, showing that he has erased any reliance on matchup inexperience from his game, he has been able to continue placing well at majors, placing 9th at [[GENESIS 5]], 9th at [[GameTyrant Expo 2017]], 7th at [[Full Bloom 4]], 7th at [[Smash Summit 6]], 5th at [[Get On My Level]], and 4th at [[EGLX 2018]] while defeating the likes of players such as {{Sm|Hungrybox}}, {{Sm|Plup}}, {{Sm|Mew2King}}, {{Sm|Axe}}, {{Sm|Wizzrobe}}, {{Sm|SFAT}}, and many others. To top all of that, aMSa is currently ranked 7th on the [[2019 MPGR]], becoming the first top 10 player to main a mid-tier character beside Axe since {{Sm|Shroomed}}'s Dr. Mario in 2014. aMSa's astounding achievements led many professionals such as Mew2King and {{Sm|Armada}} to believe that Yoshi should be ranked higher, even ranking him around or above top 10. Overall, thanks to aMSa, Yoshi has achieved great results, increasing representation and his metagame developed, causing him to be in reality much better than people thought.
Yoshi's placement in the current tier list has been a topic of debate since then. Throughout aMSa's earlier years in the scene, many noted his tendency to perform better overseas than in Japan, suggesting that he won mainly through matchup inexperience. However, in recent times, {{Sm|aMSa}}'s performance has gradually gained momentum; not only has he begun to dominate his region, showing that he has erased any reliance on matchup inexperience from his game, he has been able to continue placing well at majors, placing 9th at [[GENESIS 5]], 9th at [[GameTyrant Expo 2017]], 7th at [[Full Bloom 4]], 7th at [[Smash Summit 6]], 5th at [[Get On My Level]], and 4th at [[EGLX 2018]] while defeating the likes of players such as {{Sm|Hungrybox}}, {{Sm|Plup}}, {{Sm|Mew2King}}, {{Sm|Axe}}, {{Sm|Wizzrobe}}, {{Sm|SFAT}}, and many others. To top all of that, aMSa is currently ranked 7th on the [[2019 MPGR]], becoming the first top 10 player to main a mid-tier character beside Axe since {{Sm|Shroomed}}'s Dr. Mario in 2014. aMSa's astounding achievements helped push Yoshi into the top 10, and he now sits at 10th on the thirteenth and current tier list. Overall, thanks to aMSa, Yoshi has achieved great results, which increased his representation and helped develop his metagame, causing him to be much better than people thought.


==In [[Solo#1-P_Mode|1-P Mode]]==
==In [[Solo#1-P_Mode|1-P Mode]]==