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Incineroar has the same down smash, neutral air, down air, forward air, up throw, and all floor attacks, and both of their down specials are counters of some kind. If we count the down specials as half-cloned, they share 6.5/24 moves, or 27%, in the limbo section of Toomai's chart. I asked him if this would qualify them as psuedo-clones, but he hasn't responded. I personally don't think they're psuedo-clones, but I want to check if this mentality is shared among everyone else, partially because I have a tendency to think characters are less cloned than they actually are, and partially because these two characters share a suspicious amount of moves. [[Special:Contributions/72.219.72.215|72.219.72.215]] 20:28, March 18, 2021 (EDT) | Incineroar has the same down smash, neutral air, down air, forward air, up throw, and all floor attacks, and both of their down specials are counters of some kind. If we count the down specials as half-cloned, they share 6.5/24 moves, or 27%, in the limbo section of Toomai's chart. I asked him if this would qualify them as psuedo-clones, but he hasn't responded. I personally don't think they're psuedo-clones, but I want to check if this mentality is shared among everyone else, partially because I have a tendency to think characters are less cloned than they actually are, and partially because these two characters share a suspicious amount of moves. [[Special:Contributions/72.219.72.215|72.219.72.215]] 20:28, March 18, 2021 (EDT) | ||
:I advise you to actually look at their animations frame-by-frame in Ultimate Frame Data ([https://ultimateframedata.com/king_k_rool.php K. Rool here] and [https://ultimateframedata.com/incineroar.php Incineroar here]), and realize how silly this suggestion is, their animations are not identical at all. Similar type of attack =! cloned move (otherwise you would be calling all nair sex kicks cloned, all downward stomps cloned, all 1-2 sweeping down smashes cloned, and so on), and if you want to call their down specials cloned because they're counters, that's essentially like saying all projectiles are cloned because they're the same type | :I advise you to actually look at their animations frame-by-frame in Ultimate Frame Data ([https://ultimateframedata.com/king_k_rool.php K. Rool here] and [https://ultimateframedata.com/incineroar.php Incineroar here]), and realize how silly this suggestion is, their animations are not identical at all. Similar type of attack =! cloned move (otherwise you would be calling all nair sex kicks cloned, all downward stomps cloned, all 1-2 sweeping down smashes cloned, and so on), and if you want to call their down specials cloned because they're counters, that's essentially like saying all projectiles are cloned because they're the same type of move. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[Image: TyranitarMS.png ]] 20:51, March 18, 2021 (EDT) | ||