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*4 '''Move Lucina and Chrom after Ike''': These placements always seemed off, while I know those two are decendants of Marth (even though I never played a single Fire Emblem game), they still debuted in Awakening which is after the one Ike came from. Plus Chrom being listed before Roy breaks the rule the clones should go after their parent fighters. | *4 '''Move Lucina and Chrom after Ike''': These placements always seemed off, while I know those two are decendants of Marth (even though I never played a single Fire Emblem game), they still debuted in Awakening which is after the one Ike came from. Plus Chrom being listed before Roy breaks the rule the clones should go after their parent fighters. | ||
Anyway I don't really have anything else to say since SST did the rest. Wario and DK's placements don't really matter to me and I don't know much about Kid Icarus so not much to say there. I would like to backup SST's reasoning to put Dedede before Meta Knight because when it comes to "good vs. bad" neither of them can be considered actual villains in the same sense as Bowser or Ganandorf, and also Dedede debuted before Meta Knight anyway but it's no big deal either way. Anyway hope I didn't bloat this section anymore than it already has but this has been something I wanted to mention for quite a while. '''[[User:Omega Toad|<font color="blue">Omegɑ</font>]] [[User talk:Omega Toad|<font color="blue">Toɑd</font>]]''' [[File:Toad.png|20px]] 23:31, December 7, 2020 (EST) | Anyway I don't really have anything else to say since SST did the rest. Wario and DK's placements don't really matter to me and I don't know much about Kid Icarus so not much to say there. I would like to backup SST's reasoning to put Dedede before Meta Knight because when it comes to "good vs. bad" neither of them can be considered actual villains in the same sense as Bowser or Ganandorf, and also Dedede debuted before Meta Knight anyway but it's no big deal either way. Anyway hope I didn't bloat this section anymore than it already has but this has been something I wanted to mention for quite a while. '''[[User:Omega Toad|<font color="blue">Omegɑ</font>]] [[User talk:Omega Toad|<font color="blue">Toɑd</font>]]''' [[File:Toad.png|20px]] 23:31, December 7, 2020 (EST) | ||
:To Omega Toad: I didn't state that Dedede should come before Meta Knight. It's more directed towards the statement for why "Dedede before MK" was not put into effect, which implicitly claims that Dedede is actually a full-fledged villain, when that isn't quite accurate to how he is in his series. But to add to my previous statement, Meta Knight isn't exactly safe from evil-doing either; in the "Revenge of Meta Knight" sub-mode from ''Super Star'', Meta Knight's goal is to take over Dream Land with his newly built Halberd and end the lazy lifestyles of the inhabitants, which sounds pretty dictatorship-esque, if you ask me. On top of that, in the newest ''Kirby'' spin-off, ''Kirby Fighters 2'', Dedede and Meta Knight both team up to become the main antagonists of the game. | |||
:So yeah, Dedede and MK are pretty much on the "not quite bad, but not quite good, either" tier of the moral alignment in a similar vein to Wario and Dark Pit (I'd also say Wolf, but the ''Star Fox'' timeline confuses me too much), so I personally don't mind who goes first. [[File:SmashTurtlesSig1.png|20px]][[User:SuperSmashTurtles|<span style="color: green;">'''SuperSmashTurtles'''</span>]] of the [[User talk:SuperSmashTurtles|<span style="color: lightgreen;">'''Turtle Tribe'''</span>]][[File:SmashTurtlesSig2.png|20px]] 03:46, December 8, 2020 (EST) | |||