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There appears to be some misinformation about the Mega Evolution proposal, so I'd like to clarify that. [[Forum:general proposals#How_to_name_Lucario_and_Charizard.27s_Smash_4_final_smash_articles|The current proposal]] is not a merge proposal, but a move proposal, which is why the respective articles have the move template on them. The articles would remain separate, but be named "Mega Evolution (Lucario)" and "Mega Evolution (Charizard)", as they appear on their respective trophies. The reason for this is because we don't name final smash articles simply after the characters that appear in them, but rather by what the final smash itself is called. ''[[User:Alex the weeb|<span style="color: blue;">'''Alex'''</span>]] the [[User talk:Alex the weeb|<span style="color: red;">'''Weeb'''</span>]]'' 03:39, November 7, 2020 (EST)
There appears to be some misinformation about the Mega Evolution proposal, so I'd like to clarify that. [[Forum:general proposals#How_to_name_Lucario_and_Charizard.27s_Smash_4_final_smash_articles|The current proposal]] is not a merge proposal, but a move proposal, which is why the respective articles have the move template on them. The articles would remain separate, but be named "Mega Evolution (Lucario)" and "Mega Evolution (Charizard)", as they appear on their respective trophies. The reason for this is because we don't name final smash articles simply after the characters that appear in them, but rather by what the final smash itself is called. ''[[User:Alex the weeb|<span style="color: blue;">'''Alex'''</span>]] the [[User talk:Alex the weeb|<span style="color: red;">'''Weeb'''</span>]]'' 03:39, November 7, 2020 (EST)
:I might've been the one who supported renaming the mega evolution pages, and I still support renaming them, so thanks for pointing that out. I only suggested making them an exception to the official name rule because there was opposition towards the idea; however, as the main oppositions believed they were being merged and not renamed, as well as looking at the general proposal that has 3 support votes so far, yes, I believe that they should be renamed. About Zero Laser and Critical Hit, those are significantly different from the differing characters (Roy's I believe is actually based on one of his unique attack animations, while Marth's is just a generic attack used by any swordfighter in his game, so I'm not understanding the stigma that it could be a custom special). They should be split. [[Special:Contributions/72.219.72.215|72.219.72.215]] 15:39, November 16, 2020 (EST)
:I might've been the one who supported renaming the mega evolution pages, and I still support renaming them, so thanks for pointing that out. I only suggested making them an exception to the official name rule because there was opposition towards the idea; however, as the main oppositions believed they were being merged and not renamed, as well as looking at the general proposal that has 3 support votes so far, yes, I believe that they should be renamed. About Zero Laser and Critical Hit, those are significantly different from the differing characters (Roy's I believe is actually based on one of his unique attack animations, while Marth's is just a generic attack used by any swordfighter in his game, so I'm not understanding the stigma that it could be a custom special). They should be split. [[Special:Contributions/72.219.72.215|72.219.72.215]] 15:39, November 16, 2020 (EST)
::I would argue that, while SmashWiki may not be official, putting the use of official terminology first and foremost if possible is conducive to its agenda on the whole. Here's the way I look at official vs. unofficial:
::SmashWiki is, above all, supposed to be ''helpful'' and ''informative''. ''Informing'' curious fans about a game should, first and foremost, entail telling them about ''what the game is'', and not how other fans ''interpret what it is''. If there's an official term for an element of interest, whether it be a move, game, character, etc., that official term should be the page name, with most certainly fewer exceptions than there are at present. If there's a more commonly used fan name, that's why we have ''redirects'' and ''opening paragraphs'' informing the curious fan of the fact that the term they were looking for is merely a fan-made term; the page name and display title should both still use the official title. But, in situations like that of [[rage]], where there is absolutely no official term and no-one uses anything different, it is perfectly acceptable to use the universal fan terminology, so long as it's made clear that it's fan terminology, of course. And finally, in instances where the official title is rarely used or obscure, a redirect or disambiguation template/page is in order. In a perfect world, once they step into SmashWiki, a curious fan doesn't even consider for a second that the fan-made term they searched for is official, or vice-versa.
::I've been waiting L.O.G. knows how long for an opportunity to post that speech, and none of my peers have found any logical fallacies with it. The Wiki doesn't always have to be official. But in the same way Wikipedia only gets its info from reliable sources, the most help we can do is to point our readers to where the games came from. Sincerely, [[User:SamtheBKBoss|Samuel]] the [[User talk:SamtheBKBoss|<span style="font-family: Lithos Pro"><span style="color: #0123A8">'''Banjo-'''</span><span style="color: #FF1901">'''Kazooie'''</span></span>]] Boss. [[File:SamtheBKBossSIGN.png|16px]] 16:29, November 16, 2020 (EST)