SmashWiki talk:Blocking guidelines: Difference between revisions

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(And as a note to readers: Yes, I know that I would need to personally talk to Porple about implementing this, but I figured it would be better to get community consensus first without clogging his talk page). '''[[User:MeatBall104|MeatBall104;]]''' [[User talk:MeatBall104|La li lu le lo!]] 18:56, 27 January 2015 (EST)
(And as a note to readers: Yes, I know that I would need to personally talk to Porple about implementing this, but I figured it would be better to get community consensus first without clogging his talk page). '''[[User:MeatBall104|MeatBall104;]]''' [[User talk:MeatBall104|La li lu le lo!]] 18:56, 27 January 2015 (EST)
:How would this be any different from just telling a user to stop being disruptive, and blocking them if they refuse? [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[Image:Toomai.png|20px|link=User:Toomai/Bin|???]] The Brazen 19:19, 27 January 2015 (EST)
:How would this be any different from just telling a user to stop being disruptive, and blocking them if they refuse? [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[Image:Toomai.png|20px|link=User:Toomai/Bin|???]] The Brazen 19:19, 27 January 2015 (EST)
::Well, this method is meant for the type of disruption that stems from repeated editing to certain pages incorrectly or without the right knowledge. If they insist on continuing their subpar editing to said pages, then instead of blocking them for it, we can simply ban them from editing those certain pages for anywhere from 14 minutes (or whatever the minimum block time is) to indefinite, allowing them to continue with their less disruptive edits and contribute constructively to the Wiki. If this were any other type of offense, then yes, the method you just mentioned would be fine. I only mentioned the other types of bans (i.e. the one that forbids interaction between certain users, which admittedly I find somewhat stupid) just to show that this rule has more than one purpose that could come into play here, and those instances are certainly not the part that I'm pushing for here. The main thing I'm getting at is the part about constant editing of certain types of pages that the user shouldn't be editing due to lack of knowledge or whatever, (and somewhat, the part about using this tool as an alternative to protection, so that you can easily prevent counter-productive edit warring and vandalism while still allowing the more constructive edits to that page to be made). As much as I don't like talking about others behind their backs, I guess I'll have to actually present an example now, and that would be Myth. Often times, he was called out for constantly editing Smasher pages despite not knowing enough about competitive Smash, and got blocked twice. In his case, had we implemented bans back then, we could have simply prevented him from editing those pages so he could still edit elsewhere (as to be honest, most of his non-Smasher edits were just fine if not exceptional).
::In short, this is different because it allows users to still make their less disruptive edits while still preventing the cause of the disruption from happening. '''[[User:MeatBall104|MeatBall104;]]''' [[User talk:MeatBall104|La li lu le lo!]] 20:02, 27 January 2015 (EST)
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