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::::::You're basing this off a "costume" and not any actual evidence. We already know he's not called Red in the games or official media. Treating him as such in the actual series doesn't work. At least as a fact. It's great people want to believe he is Red, but that doesn't actually make him Red. Until Sakurai actually states he's literally Red, and not a Pokemon Trainer(generic) as the game officially specifies, calling him Red on here is entirely speculation. Do you have any evidence by Sakurai or the game itself that refers to him as Red? If not, then it's nothing more than speculation.[[User:HyperFalcon|HyperFalcon]] ([[User talk:HyperFalcon|talk]]) 04:35, 29 July 2013 (EDT) | ::::::You're basing this off a "costume" and not any actual evidence. We already know he's not called Red in the games or official media. Treating him as such in the actual series doesn't work. At least as a fact. It's great people want to believe he is Red, but that doesn't actually make him Red. Until Sakurai actually states he's literally Red, and not a Pokemon Trainer(generic) as the game officially specifies, calling him Red on here is entirely speculation. Do you have any evidence by Sakurai or the game itself that refers to him as Red? If not, then it's nothing more than speculation.[[User:HyperFalcon|HyperFalcon]] ([[User talk:HyperFalcon|talk]]) 04:35, 29 July 2013 (EDT) | ||
:::::::The costume and overall character design is actually actual evidence. I don't understand how you can possibly think otherwise. Compare the two. They're clearly the same thing. It's not speculation. He's called Pokémon Trainer because in the Pokémon games, you can name him, much like the [[Villager]] in Animal Crossing. The article's name isn't Red because he's not referred to that by the game, but for Trivia purposes, saying he's Red is not incorrect. If you want to make a case, actually give evidence to state he's ''not'' Red; don't just say "Sakurai didn't say he's Red, so he's not" when they're clearly identical. <span style="font-family:Triforce, sans-serif;">'''[[User:Dr. Pain 99|<font color=#008000>D<font color=#008019>o<font color=#008031>c<font color=#008049>t<font color=#008062>o<font color=#008080>rP</font>a</font>i</font>n</font>9</font>9</font>]]'''</span> 04:40, 29 July 2013 (EDT) | :::::::The costume and overall character design is actually actual evidence. I don't understand how you can possibly think otherwise. Compare the two. They're clearly the same thing. It's not speculation. He's called Pokémon Trainer because in the Pokémon games, you can name him, much like the [[Villager]] in Animal Crossing. The article's name isn't Red because he's not referred to that by the game, but for Trivia purposes, saying he's Red is not incorrect. If you want to make a case, actually give evidence to state he's ''not'' Red; don't just say "Sakurai didn't say he's Red, so he's not" when they're clearly identical. <span style="font-family:Triforce, sans-serif;">'''[[User:Dr. Pain 99|<font color=#008000>D<font color=#008019>o<font color=#008031>c<font color=#008049>t<font color=#008062>o<font color=#008080>rP</font>a</font>i</font>n</font>9</font>9</font>]]'''</span> 04:40, 29 July 2013 (EDT) | ||
::::::::Why can't people fucking look at [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Red_%28game%29#In_the_Super_Smash_Bros._series this]? Bulbapedia says it's Red. We should too. [[User:Scr7|<font style="color:#0000FF">S</font><font style="color:#7F7FFF">c</font><font style="color:#00FFFF">r</font>]][[User talk:Scr7|<font style="color:#FF7F00">7</font>]][[File:Wolfsig.png|19px|link=Special:Contributions/Scr7]] 04:46, 29 July 2013 (EDT) |