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:::I'm counting on the inherent apathy of mankind. [[User:Semicolon|Semicolon]] ([[User talk:Semicolon|talk]]) 20:40, 21 August 2008 (UTC) | :::I'm counting on the inherent apathy of mankind. [[User:Semicolon|Semicolon]] ([[User talk:Semicolon|talk]]) 20:40, 21 August 2008 (UTC) | ||
::::Oh, you'd be surprised. I started on GWW under much the same auspices and I've been there for a little under a year now. – [[User:Defiant Elements|<font color="black">Defiant Elements</font>]] 20:43, 21 August 2008 (UTC) | ::::Oh, you'd be surprised. I started on GWW under much the same auspices and I've been there for a little under a year now. – [[User:Defiant Elements|<font color="black">Defiant Elements</font>]] 20:43, 21 August 2008 (UTC) | ||
:::::This is unfortunate. [[User:Semicolon|Semicolon]] ([[User talk:Semicolon|talk]]) 20:44, 21 August 2008 (UTC) | |||
::Honestly? Even if we are ''a'' problem, we're not ''the'' problem (''the'' problem predates us by a mile and half), and even if we were to leave right now, never to return again, you'd still have a problem. You're not gonna be able to ''get'' back to anything until you actually resolve the real issues, and aside from my own posts, I've seen no real attempt at resolution. Even if you ''were'' to overturn the bans, you'd ''still'' have a problem. On a related note, might I respectfully suggest that you read up on the term "red herring"? Anywho, neither SC nor I have ever suggested that the fault lay with '''all''' the Sysops (in fact, I specifically said otherwise), so unless you're only talking about Warwick, etc., your statement is simply erroneous, not to mention that I've never said a word about the community at large here, much less to criticize and belittle it. I understand that you're becoming increasingly distraught, but honestly? – [[User:Defiant Elements|<font color="black">Defiant Elements</font>]] 20:35, 21 August 2008 (UTC) | ::Honestly? Even if we are ''a'' problem, we're not ''the'' problem (''the'' problem predates us by a mile and half), and even if we were to leave right now, never to return again, you'd still have a problem. You're not gonna be able to ''get'' back to anything until you actually resolve the real issues, and aside from my own posts, I've seen no real attempt at resolution. Even if you ''were'' to overturn the bans, you'd ''still'' have a problem. On a related note, might I respectfully suggest that you read up on the term "red herring"? Anywho, neither SC nor I have ever suggested that the fault lay with '''all''' the Sysops (in fact, I specifically said otherwise), so unless you're only talking about Warwick, etc., your statement is simply erroneous, not to mention that I've never said a word about the community at large here, much less to criticize and belittle it. I understand that you're becoming increasingly distraught, but honestly? – [[User:Defiant Elements|<font color="black">Defiant Elements</font>]] 20:35, 21 August 2008 (UTC) | ||
:::Without addressing point by point, if the problem predates you, why are you here? If the problem isn't with all the sysops, why are you here? What problem do we have that you can fix? Perhaps we have a renegade sysop. Fine. Contact wikia. That's not your problem. I guess my biggest problem here is that I don't see a problem that you can fix, and I see plenty that you can make worse. [[User:Semicolon|Semicolon]] ([[User talk:Semicolon|talk]]) 20:44, 21 August 2008 (UTC) | |||